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Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?

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I would have to say that Karpyshyn is a better game writer than he is a novel writer. And that's going by the Mass Effect books seeing as I couldn't care less about Darth Bane's story (not to mention a general disdain for the dark side).

As an idea in general, or as the idea the unskilled and untalented SW writer have presented? Most of those tend to write about OR period. Anything involving Exar Kun jumps to mind... :sick:


In general.

As I've said, I've not read any of Drew's Star Wars work, only his Mass Effect novels, and what I've heard about Revan doesn't bode well IMHO. He's got some decent ideas and a reasonable degree of talent, but his overall style strikes me as just a bit pedestrian. I'm not sure how else to describe it.

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Atrocity wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

I would have to say that Karpyshyn is a better game writer than he is a novel writer. And that's going by the Mass Effect books seeing as I couldn't care less about Darth Bane's story (not to mention a general disdain for the dark side).

As an idea in general, or as the idea the unskilled and untalented SW writer have presented? Most of those tend to write about OR period. Anything involving Exar Kun jumps to mind... :sick:

If we're gonna talk bad writing in SW, then lets not forget this ''genius'' decision... Image IPB

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Nharia1 wrote...

Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?

For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...

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I'm limiting my discussion of bad writing to Mass Effect at the moment, as it's more topic-related. However, if I could be arsed to do so, you would be inundated with a wall of ranting text about certain Star Wars authors (KJA, anyone?).

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Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?

For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...


Please tell me you're not one of those brony characters... :unsure::sick:

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Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?

For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *points to the sky* Look! Dick on a stick!  AHAHAHA LFG is too funny! Have you read the most recent one?:D

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Goodwood wrote...

I'm limiting my discussion of bad writing to Mass Effect at the moment, as it's more topic-related. However, if I could be arsed to do so, you would be inundated with a wall of ranting text about certain Star Wars authors (KJA, anyone?).

Hehe... No thanks, im fine with sticking to the ME material... Dont want to be reminded of bad writing in SW... At least until Lucas changes the ending... again...

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Goodwood wrote...

In general.

As I've said, I've not read any of Drew's Star Wars work, only his Mass Effect novels, and what I've heard about Revan doesn't bode well IMHO. He's got some decent ideas and a reasonable degree of talent, but his overall style strikes me as just a bit pedestrian. I'm not sure how else to describe it.

Ok. I like it, or the ideas some writers have thrown about it (only to be crushed by their less talented colleagues later...)
And oretty much all fantasy-scifi, which SW and ME ultimately are, is pedestrian, since they were not written to be anything more than consumer products to be devoured and enjoyed. There is literature and then there are books, SW titles being the latter.

As are ME books, and ME series. And that's why the ending doesn't work. And now this post is on topic B)

edit. KJA... "Someone had to come later to explain my character writing by braindamage, so my trilogy wouldn't break an entire faction of a genre, clearly I am a genius!"

Modifié par Atrocity, 08 mai 2012 - 07:25 .


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Goodwood wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?

For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...


Please tell me you're not one of those brony characters... :unsure::sick:

Deffinently not a brony... ''For pony'' is the warcry of Richard from LFG Image IPB

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Nharia1 wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?

For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *points to the sky* Look! Dick on a stick!  AHAHAHA LFG is too funny! Have you read the most recent one?:D

The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle? Image IPB

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Atrocity wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

In general.

As I've said, I've not read any of Drew's Star Wars work, only his Mass Effect novels, and what I've heard about Revan doesn't bode well IMHO. He's got some decent ideas and a reasonable degree of talent, but his overall style strikes me as just a bit pedestrian. I'm not sure how else to describe it.

Ok. I like it, or the ideas some writers have thrown about it (only to be crushed by their less talented collagues later...)
And oretty much all fantasy-scifi, which SW and ME ultimately are, is pedestrian, since they were not written to be anything more than consumer products to be devoured and enjoyed. There is literature and then there are books, SW titles being the latter.

As are ME books, and ME series. And that's why the ending doesn't work. And now this post is on topic B)


Don't get me wrong, I've never imagined any tie-in novels to be "literature" in the strictest sense. That said, there are some very good writers who can take the universe and do very good things with it in unexpected ways. Three Star Wars examples I can think of off the top of my head are two by Matthew Stover: Shatterpoint and Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor and Death Troopers by Joe Schrieber. While it is understood that these are the exceptions to the rule, it just shows how IMHO there's decent, good, and great in whatever genre you look.

And yeah, I could've come up with a better ending for ME3 after a three-day tequila bender (which is saying something, because I don't drink!).

Modifié par Goodwood, 08 mai 2012 - 07:29 .


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Edit.

Modifié par HITMAN629, 08 mai 2012 - 07:39 .


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Goodwood wrote...

Don't get me wrong, I've never imagined any tie-in novels to be "literature" in the strictest sense. That said, there are some very good writers who can take the universe and do very good things with it in unexpected ways. Two Star Wars examples I can think of off the top of my head are both by Matthew Stover: Shatterpoint and Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor. While it is understood that these are the exceptions to the rule, it just shows how IMHO there's decent, good, and great in whatever genre you look.

And yeah, I could've come up with a better ending for ME3 after a three-day tequila bender (which is saying something, because I don't drink!).

Exceptions are like unexpected candy. Unexpected. <---- a metaphor which will surely make a mark in the history
My literature is pretty high brow and hipsterish, House of Leaves, Shakespeare, Yeats, Murakami, Woolf etc. 

Though I probably should read those titles. After my phone company is finished with the changes, and I can activate my iPhone, and add some ebooks in it.

edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D

Modifié par Atrocity, 08 mai 2012 - 07:39 .


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I also recommend Death Troopers and Red Harvest by Joe Schrieber

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Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?

For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *points to the sky* Look! Dick on a stick!  AHAHAHA LFG is too funny! Have you read the most recent one?:D

The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle? Image IPB

Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)

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Nharia1 wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle? Image IPB

Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)

Not convinced, but it does seem that way... Image IPB

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Atrocity wrote...

edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D


The sentence said "I choose bad times to return to this." Check your translator.
Edit: Actually it dosent matter what it said because I removed it.

Modifié par HITMAN629, 08 mai 2012 - 07:51 .


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Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle? Image IPB

Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)

Not convinced, but it does seem that way... Image IPB

I know right... Its like... wait is she the mom... or is she not, but knows who is? :huh: :unsure:

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HITMAN629 wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D


The sentence said "I choose bad times to return to this." Check your translator.
Edit: Actually it dosent matter what it said because I removed it.

I was referring to my own. Sentences.
Which have the 
                                                           tendency
to


be all over the place in morning.
Nor do I apply any transition smoothing words to connect the stream of thought.
An apple.

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Atrocity wrote...

HITMAN629 wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D


The sentence said "I choose bad times to return to this." Check your translator.
Edit: Actually it dosent matter what it said because I removed it.

I was referring to my own. Sentences.
Which have the 
                                                           tendency
to


be all over the place in morning.
Nor do I apply any transition smoothing words to connect the stream of thought.
An apple.

It was you that wrote the ME3 ending, wasn't it

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Nharia1 wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle? Image IPB

Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)

Not convinced, but it does seem that way... Image IPB

I know right... Its like... wait is she the mom... or is she not, but knows who is? :huh: :unsure:

Let the speculation begin! Image IPB

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g_bassi13 wrote...

It was you that wrote the ME3 ending, wasn't it

I don't know, I guess, it was early, I was checking my email. there was this email sent from my uni's mailing list, said something about an epic space opera yada-yada-yada, I answered it, oh look, a coffee mug, how cute, and they said no prior experience was needed and it wasn't like I should worry about

...when does my bus leave...

such things like consistency or other people being able to follow the trail of thought.

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And I'm hitting the sack. Hugs where applicable. ;o)

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Goodwood wrote...

And I'm hitting the sack. Hugs where applicable. ;o)

*hugs* Night Goodwood~! ^_^