So we can't get the ending we want after all?
#95526
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:15
#95527
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:15
Atrocity wrote...
As an idea in general, or as the idea the unskilled and untalented SW writer have presented? Most of those tend to write about OR period. Anything involving Exar Kun jumps to mind...Goodwood wrote...
I would have to say that Karpyshyn is a better game writer than he is a novel writer. And that's going by the Mass Effect books seeing as I couldn't care less about Darth Bane's story (not to mention a general disdain for the dark side).
In general.
As I've said, I've not read any of Drew's Star Wars work, only his Mass Effect novels, and what I've heard about Revan doesn't bode well IMHO. He's got some decent ideas and a reasonable degree of talent, but his overall style strikes me as just a bit pedestrian. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
#95528
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:16
If we're gonna talk bad writing in SW, then lets not forget this ''genius'' decision...Atrocity wrote...
As an idea in general, or as the idea the unskilled and untalented SW writer have presented? Most of those tend to write about OR period. Anything involving Exar Kun jumps to mind...Goodwood wrote...
I would have to say that Karpyshyn is a better game writer than he is a novel writer. And that's going by the Mass Effect books seeing as I couldn't care less about Darth Bane's story (not to mention a general disdain for the dark side).
#95529
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:17
For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...Nharia1 wrote...
Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?
#95530
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:18
#95531
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:19
Tyion133 wrote...
For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...Nharia1 wrote...
Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?
Please tell me you're not one of those brony characters...
#95532
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:19
Tyion133 wrote...
For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...Nharia1 wrote...
Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?
#95533
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:20
Hehe... No thanks, im fine with sticking to the ME material... Dont want to be reminded of bad writing in SW... At least until Lucas changes the ending... again...Goodwood wrote...
I'm limiting my discussion of bad writing to Mass Effect at the moment, as it's more topic-related. However, if I could be arsed to do so, you would be inundated with a wall of ranting text about certain Star Wars authors (KJA, anyone?).
#95534
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:22
Ok. I like it, or the ideas some writers have thrown about it (only to be crushed by their less talented colleagues later...)Goodwood wrote...
In general.
As I've said, I've not read any of Drew's Star Wars work, only his Mass Effect novels, and what I've heard about Revan doesn't bode well IMHO. He's got some decent ideas and a reasonable degree of talent, but his overall style strikes me as just a bit pedestrian. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
And oretty much all fantasy-scifi, which SW and ME ultimately are, is pedestrian, since they were not written to be anything more than consumer products to be devoured and enjoyed. There is literature and then there are books, SW titles being the latter.
As are ME books, and ME series. And that's why the ending doesn't work. And now this post is on topic
edit. KJA... "Someone had to come later to explain my character writing by braindamage, so my trilogy wouldn't break an entire faction of a genre, clearly I am a genius!"
Modifié par Atrocity, 08 mai 2012 - 07:25 .
#95535
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:22
Deffinently not a brony... ''For pony'' is the warcry of Richard from LFGGoodwood wrote...
Tyion133 wrote...
For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...Nharia1 wrote...
Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?
Please tell me you're not one of those brony characters...
#95536
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:24
The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle?Nharia1 wrote...
Tyion133 wrote...
For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...Nharia1 wrote...
Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?:lol:
:lol:
*points to the sky* Look! Dick on a stick! AHAHAHA LFG is too funny! Have you read the most recent one?
#95537
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:27
Atrocity wrote...
Ok. I like it, or the ideas some writers have thrown about it (only to be crushed by their less talented collagues later...)Goodwood wrote...
In general.
As I've said, I've not read any of Drew's Star Wars work, only his Mass Effect novels, and what I've heard about Revan doesn't bode well IMHO. He's got some decent ideas and a reasonable degree of talent, but his overall style strikes me as just a bit pedestrian. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
And oretty much all fantasy-scifi, which SW and ME ultimately are, is pedestrian, since they were not written to be anything more than consumer products to be devoured and enjoyed. There is literature and then there are books, SW titles being the latter.
As are ME books, and ME series. And that's why the ending doesn't work. And now this post is on topic
Don't get me wrong, I've never imagined any tie-in novels to be "literature" in the strictest sense. That said, there are some very good writers who can take the universe and do very good things with it in unexpected ways. Three Star Wars examples I can think of off the top of my head are two by Matthew Stover: Shatterpoint and Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor and Death Troopers by Joe Schrieber. While it is understood that these are the exceptions to the rule, it just shows how IMHO there's decent, good, and great in whatever genre you look.
And yeah, I could've come up with a better ending for ME3 after a three-day tequila bender (which is saying something, because I don't drink!).
Modifié par Goodwood, 08 mai 2012 - 07:29 .
#95538
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:29
Modifié par HITMAN629, 08 mai 2012 - 07:39 .
#95539
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:33
Exceptions are like unexpected candy. Unexpected. <---- a metaphor which will surely make a mark in the historyGoodwood wrote...
Don't get me wrong, I've never imagined any tie-in novels to be "literature" in the strictest sense. That said, there are some very good writers who can take the universe and do very good things with it in unexpected ways. Two Star Wars examples I can think of off the top of my head are both by Matthew Stover: Shatterpoint and Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor. While it is understood that these are the exceptions to the rule, it just shows how IMHO there's decent, good, and great in whatever genre you look.
And yeah, I could've come up with a better ending for ME3 after a three-day tequila bender (which is saying something, because I don't drink!).
My literature is pretty high brow and hipsterish, House of Leaves, Shakespeare, Yeats, Murakami, Woolf etc.
Though I probably should read those titles. After my phone company is finished with the changes, and I can activate my iPhone, and add some ebooks in it.
edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D
Modifié par Atrocity, 08 mai 2012 - 07:39 .
#95540
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:37
#95541
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:38
Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)Tyion133 wrote...
The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle?Nharia1 wrote...
Tyion133 wrote...
For pony!... Would also be shouting Fus Ro Dah at my tv if I had kinect, and my xbox was working...Nharia1 wrote...
Does anyone else find themselves shouting some kind of war cry at your tv when you're playing some kind of war game... Or is it just me?:lol:
:lol:
*points to the sky* Look! Dick on a stick! AHAHAHA LFG is too funny! Have you read the most recent one?
#95542
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:44
Not convinced, but it does seem that way...Nharia1 wrote...
Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)Tyion133 wrote...
The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle?
#95543
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:44
Atrocity wrote...
edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D
The sentence said "I choose bad times to return to this." Check your translator.
Edit: Actually it dosent matter what it said because I removed it.
Modifié par HITMAN629, 08 mai 2012 - 07:51 .
#95544
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:54
I know right... Its like... wait is she the mom... or is she not, but knows who is?Tyion133 wrote...
Not convinced, but it does seem that way...Nharia1 wrote...
Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)Tyion133 wrote...
The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle?
#95545
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:55
I was referring to my own. Sentences.HITMAN629 wrote...
Atrocity wrote...
edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D
The sentence said "I choose bad times to return to this." Check your translator.
Edit: Actually it dosent matter what it said because I removed it.
Which have the
tendency
to
be all over the place in morning.
Nor do I apply any transition smoothing words to connect the stream of thought.
An apple.
#95546
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 07:59
It was you that wrote the ME3 ending, wasn't itAtrocity wrote...
I was referring to my own. Sentences.HITMAN629 wrote...
Atrocity wrote...
edit. and have fun trying to make sense from these broken and nontransitional sentences :'D
The sentence said "I choose bad times to return to this." Check your translator.
Edit: Actually it dosent matter what it said because I removed it.
Which have the
tendency
to
be all over the place in morning.
Nor do I apply any transition smoothing words to connect the stream of thought.
An apple.
#95547
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 08:00
Let the speculation begin!Nharia1 wrote...
I know right... Its like... wait is she the mom... or is she not, but knows who is?Tyion133 wrote...
Not convinced, but it does seem that way...Nharia1 wrote...
Bwahahahahaha~! Yeah. Oh by the way did you like the reveal of Benny's mother. (At least I think it was her mom...)Tyion133 wrote...
The one where TIM barfs up a gazelle?![]()
#95548
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 08:03
I don't know, I guess, it was early, I was checking my email. there was this email sent from my uni's mailing list, said something about an epic space opera yada-yada-yada, I answered it, oh look, a coffee mug, how cute, and they said no prior experience was needed and it wasn't like I should worry aboutg_bassi13 wrote...
It was you that wrote the ME3 ending, wasn't it
...when does my bus leave...
such things like consistency or other people being able to follow the trail of thought.
#95549
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 08:07
#95550
Posté 08 mai 2012 - 08:09
*hugs* Night Goodwood~!Goodwood wrote...
And I'm hitting the sack. Hugs where applicable. ;o)




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