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So we can't get the ending we want after all?

Débuté par Dunmer of Redoran , févr. 28 2012 01:06

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#95901
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:28

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Good slightly less dehydrated morning to everyone :)


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Just a note, unless I'm mistaken it's the retailers that suffer with refunds, not EA. Everyone is also overly focussed on what this last quarter's financial statements are. Of course ME3 was going to generate them a huge profit, an effective PR campaign and the fact that it was the most anticipated game of the year is going to do that. The more interesting numbers are what has happened to games like SWTOR and the real indicators of how much of a backlash there has been will come with the release of the next big BioWare title. ME3 was never going to be a commerical failure, what has happened is that it and BioWare's overall reaction have caused damage to their brand and their customers faith in it. Also, I'm pleased to see that they've made a profit on ME3 because as a whole it is a good game and by making a profit we are more likely to get games like that in the future. The more important thing is whether BioWare has learned from the mistakes of ME3 and the fans reaction so that they won't repeat them in the next title. As far as EA is concerned it is generally accepted that as a business it is not doing as well as it should and their profits do not match expectations for a company of their size and this is not down to BioWare.


That's why I never returned my copy. I have no clue how the return/refunding works, how much of it will have to be payed by the retailer, and I don't want to hurt the store so.... That, and I still like rest of the game and Mp and all that.

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:36

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Lestatman wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

How would Hackett be indoctrinated? :huh:


http://social.biowar.../index/11264403 rather a long read but interesting.  Not sure if it's true but as I said I do hope everything will be sorted out in the EC Dlc.

*stares at the first post* ... :blink:

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:52

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Atrocity wrote...

That's why I never returned my copy. I have no clue how the return/refunding works, how much of it will have to be payed by the retailer, and I don't want to hurt the store so.... That, and I still like rest of the game and Mp and all that.

And games for the PC cant be returned...

#95904
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:52

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Just a note, unless I'm mistaken it's the retailers that suffer with refunds, not EA. Everyone is also overly focussed on what this last quarter's financial statements are. Of course ME3 was going to generate them a huge profit, an effective PR campaign and the fact that it was the most anticipated game of the year is going to do that. The more interesting numbers are what has happened to games like SWTOR and the real indicators of how much of a backlash there has been will come with the release of the next big BioWare title. ME3 was never going to be a commerical failure, what has happened is that it and BioWare's overall reaction have caused damage to their brand and their customers faith in it. Also, I'm pleased to see that they've made a profit on ME3 because as a whole it is a good game and by making a profit we are more likely to get games like that in the future. The more important thing is whether BioWare has learned from the mistakes of ME3 and the fans reaction so that they won't repeat them in the next title. As far as EA is concerned it is generally accepted that as a business it is not doing as well as it should and their profits do not match expectations for a company of their size and this is not down to BioWare.

On a bit of a side note, if a retail store was inundated with requests to return the game, would they not be less willing to accept large amounts of copies from the same company with their next game for fear of losing money off it?

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:56

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Tyion133 wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

That's why I never returned my copy. I have no clue how the return/refunding works, how much of it will have to be payed by the retailer, and I don't want to hurt the store so.... That, and I still like rest of the game and Mp and all that.

And games for the PC cant be returned...

Oh yes, joys of heavy DRMs... 

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:58

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Atrocity wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

That's why I never returned my copy. I have no clue how the return/refunding works, how much of it will have to be payed by the retailer, and I don't want to hurt the store so.... That, and I still like rest of the game and Mp and all that.

And games for the PC cant be returned...

Oh yes, joys of heavy DRMs... 

Aye... Can we do anything else than love it? Image IPB

#95907
Goodwood
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 07:59

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Atrocity, there you are! HUG ATTACK

#95908
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:03

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Goodwood wrote...

Atrocity, there you are! HUG ATTACK

Weren't you supposed to be sleeping :P
Yes, here I am, feeling surprisingly chirpy and not dehydrated, unlike yesterday :lol:

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:06

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Atrocity wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Atrocity, there you are! HUG ATTACK

Weren't you supposed to be sleeping :P
Yes, here I am, feeling surprisingly chirpy and not dehydrated, unlike yesterday :lol:


I'm actually about to head off. Too bad too, as I'd love to get into an MP game with you... ;)

#95910
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:08

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Goodwood wrote...
I'm actually about to head off. Too bad too, as I'd love to get into an MP game with you... ;)

Because it's enjoyable to play with a sniper who you never see for the duration of the entire game :lol:
Some other day, I should be free the whole summer, no work, no nothing, so there is a chance I will be playing MP ;)

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:11

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Atrocity wrote...

Goodwood wrote...
I'm actually about to head off. Too bad too, as I'd love to get into an MP game with you... ;)

Because it's enjoyable to play with a sniper who you never see for the duration of the entire game :lol:
Some other day, I should be free the whole summer, no work, no nothing, so there is a chance I will be playing MP ;)

Count me in. Image IPB Might play as a GE.

#95912
Goodwood
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:12

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Atrocity wrote...

Goodwood wrote...
I'm actually about to head off. Too bad too, as I'd love to get into an MP game with you... ;)

Because it's enjoyable to play with a sniper who you never see for the duration of the entire game :lol:
Some other day, I should be free the whole summer, no work, no nothing, so there is a chance I will be playing MP ;)


We should do that, then; at the very least, you'll get to hear my hilarious fake accents. ;)

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:13

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Goodwood wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Goodwood wrote...
I'm actually about to head off. Too bad too, as I'd love to get into an MP game with you... ;)

Because it's enjoyable to play with a sniper who you never see for the duration of the entire game :lol:
Some other day, I should be free the whole summer, no work, no nothing, so there is a chance I will be playing MP ;)


We should do that, then; at the very least, you'll get to hear my hilarious fake accents. ;)

I have a hilarious accent too. Too bad it's not fake though :pinched:

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Goodwood
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:14

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Then it's a date!

Anyway, it's bedtime for me; gotta get up relatively early and do esoteric crap. Hugs all around!

#95915
Lestatman
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:20

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Nharia1 wrote...

*stares at the first post* ... :blink:


Nobody knows, lots of speculation.  Personally I've never liked or trusted Hackett but it by no means to say that I believe that at some point unknown to us he's been indoctrinated.  I just thought it was an interesting theory as we're still playing the waiting game.

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HITMAN629
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:27

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Lestatman wrote...
Nobody knows, lots of speculation.


That is the recurring theme that has ruled here since March.

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Fallenfromthesky
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:32

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HITMAN629 wrote...

Lestatman wrote...
Nobody knows, lots of speculation.


That is the recurring theme that has ruled here since March.


Shame that if I want to speculate about anything I'll just think about my exams. Salutations to all the forumites. How are we all, hope we're all happy now Minecraft is out Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:35

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...

HITMAN629 wrote...

Lestatman wrote...
Nobody knows, lots of speculation.


That is the recurring theme that has ruled here since March.


Shame that if I want to speculate about anything I'll just think about my exams. Salutations to all the forumites. How are we all, hope we're all happy now Minecraft is out Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB

The s-word again! Here, have one on the Space Magic. I did my exam speculation yesterday, and now I am in the process of trying to put on some clothes so I can take my dog out so I can do some housecleaning. 

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:39

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...
hope we're all happy now Minecraft is out Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB


Its been out on PC for a year. Didn't like it so I doubt I'll put $20 into the Xbox version.

#95920
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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:43

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HITMAN629 wrote...

Its been out on PC for a year. Didn't like it so I doubt I'll put $20 into the Xbox version.


Me and my gaggle of minions are planning to use Minecraft to takeover the world...somehow...then when we have conquered all we will built a new ending for ME3 out of blocks and picksImage IPB

#95921
HITMAN629
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 08:48

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Fallenfromthesky wrote...

Me and my gaggle of minions are planning to use Minecraft to takeover the world...somehow...then when we have conquered all we will built a new ending for ME3 out of blocks and picksImage IPB


I wish you luck then. Although, it shouldn't take much effort to make something thats better then ME3's ending.

#95922
Nharia1
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:14

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Hm... I'm wondering if should post the links to my ending rewrite on here again, since there's new people showing up who haven't read it... Or at least commented on it... Ah what the heck...

Chapter 1: Shepard's Awakening
http://social.biowar...93/blog/212209/

Chapter 2: The Fight to the Beam
http://social.biowar...93/blog/212231/

Chapter 3: The Battles Above and on Earth
http://social.biowar...93/blog/212337/

I'm currently working on Chapter 4, but its a slow process...

#95923
Atrocity
Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:33

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Dead thread is dead. Any chance any of you guys would rather come here to help me with my housecleaning, than play... who am I kidding watch the ending again? :P

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:37

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Saw something interesting on the news today.

There's a rugby team here that's playing a rubbish season. One win from nine games, bottom of the ladder. They just had their annual general meeting, and a lot of fans were there -- paid up members of the team's club.

People expressed disappointment in the coach and his decisions. Some even said he wasn't the right man for the job anymore.

Did the coach take refuge in self-assuredness? "You don't get it," he could have said. "-I'm- the coach. I know what we want and I know what I'm doing. Your money doesn't give you the right to tell me I'm wrong."

He didn't. He said, "I make no excuses on our part, the facts are we have simply not been good enough."

The media could have had a field day spinning bias and condescencion. They didn't. Here's an article about it. Note the title. Does it say "Entitled football-watchers whine, call for coach's sacking"? No. It is simply, "Fans have their say". A 2-3 minute TV news piece included comments from fans -- six of them. Six opinions, replayed word for word without judgement. We have confidence in them, one said, but as long as they're not winning, there's still a problem.

This isn't about whether we're worth or owed more or less than these fans. Mainly, it appalls me that the gaming media and sometimes even companies are incapable of showing game players this same basic level of respect, instead treating them like children rather than rational people aware that they have bought something and aware that it isn't good enough. Gaming seems to be one of the last industries where it's acceptable to belittle the people who give you business. And that still puzzles me.

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Posté 09 mai 2012 - 09:38

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started playing DAO today, gotta say its a little too easy conversational wise as i still remember what gives them approval, everyone loves me and im still in Lothering :P
But anyway, whatsup guys? :)
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