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#96601
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Morning chaps... Biggles is up early today, but biggles has things to do... NOT...

An interesting interview with the writer of Prometheus...

Breifley mentions storytelling in games... And also a a nice quote
(Q)
The stereotype that a lot of science fans have about science
fiction movies is that the science is the first thing to go out the
window in favor of cool ideas or whatever. How do you find ways to keep
the science at least plausible?

(A)
For too many filmmakers, "sci fi" means "anything goes." Which leads in turn to arbitrary chains of events, or story rules that feel inconsistent or muddy.Story flourishes under constraint. The more scientific limits you keep in
place, forcing yourself to work within real rules, the more authentic  your story will feel. I always fight for scientific rigor. Not just because I'm a huge geek, which I quite definitely am, but because I
believe it makes for better stories.


I.E biowares pre ending ethos...

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TamiBx wrote...

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3 or 5 million banshees


that's disgusting. :pinched:

When will these MP events end? 

The more people that play MP the less likely a new SP game,DLC or a real fix to ME3s problems.

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g_bassi13 wrote...

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I just saw someone made an hour and a half video about the Indoctrination Theory... All I have to say about it, is that the guy gives way too much credit to the Bioware writing team.

the cold hard fact of the matter is, they shoved this game out the door to get that sweet short-term cash in. EA wanted ME3 on their quarter earnings to cover the fact they lost so much money on SWOTR. If the shareholders knew they were hemorrhaging as much money as they actually are, EA would probably sink like a stone.

Yup. That's the major problem I have with the that theory. I think the people that came up with it are extremely creative, probably more so than the people that actually made the game. Like you said, there's little to no chance that the team who was in charge of the game could come up with something so elaborate, when large parts of the game are half-assed as is. People want to believe that Bioware couldn't have screwed up as hard as they did, but they did.

I would give Bioware credit if they picked up the theory and ran with it though. But that's likely not happening.


If they ran with IT I'd accept it, I'd know they never once thought of the idea, but I'd accept it.

The number one thing I say when people mention that it couldn't possibly have been the whole team that dropped the ball, I just mention the Thane/Kai Leng fight scene.

Shepard and two other highly trained, highly armed team mates stand and watch while Thane gets his ass handed to him instead of, oh I don't know, shooting Kai Leng in his face.

That's not good writing, thats forcing a death of a popular character for emotional shock and awe.

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Ihatebadgames wrote...

Banshees never really bother me.Now those little monsters with the swords..Who in their right mind puts nearly unkillable sword wielding monsters on crack,in their sci-fi game?


anytime i see either of them i play this song in my head


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Also with Banshees BioWare can claim more naked boobs than The Witcher 2.

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Good morning everyone! *hugs* for Goodwood & Nharia. The artist who did the Maurader Shields comics got the VA who voiced Nihlus and the codex entries to read the dialogue. Link

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Good morning everyone! *hugs* for Goodwood & Nharia. The artist who did the Maurader Shields comics got the VA who voiced Nihlus and the codex entries to read the dialogue. Link

Hey Phoenix~! I guess we wait for Major to show up then try again? :lol: Hopefully we can get it to work right.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Good morning everyone! *hugs* for Goodwood & Nharia. The artist who did the Maurader Shields comics got the VA who voiced Nihlus and the codex entries to read the dialogue. Link

Hey Phoenix~! I guess we wait for Major to show up then try again? :lol: Hopefully we can get it to work right.

Yep! Sounds like a plan. Image IPB

Edit: I will go and invest in a headset today.... if I remember!

Modifié par Phoenix NL, 11 mai 2012 - 05:44 .


#96610
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Phoenix NL wrote...

Good morning everyone! *hugs* for Goodwood & Nharia. The artist who did the Maurader Shields comics got the VA who voiced Nihlus and the codex entries to read the dialogue. Link


shhhhh
to much energy for 12:48 A.M

also i just listened to him and it was awesome.  did not know he did Nihlus and the Narrator, you learn something new everyday

Modifié par mage110011, 11 mai 2012 - 05:50 .


#96611
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mage110011 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Good morning everyone! *hugs* for Goodwood & Nharia. The artist who did the Maurader Shields comics got the VA who voiced Nihlus and the codex entries to read the dialogue. Link


shhhhh
to much energy for 12 A.M

Lol my sincere apologies. Image IPB It's almost 7am here.

#96612
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Phoenix NL wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Good morning everyone! *hugs* for Goodwood & Nharia. The artist who did the Maurader Shields comics got the VA who voiced Nihlus and the codex entries to read the dialogue. Link

Hey Phoenix~! I guess we wait for Major to show up then try again? :lol: Hopefully we can get it to work right.

Yep! Sounds like a plan. Image IPB

Edit: I will go and invest in a headset today.... if I remember!

I'm never going to get one, I sound HORRRIBLE over them...

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this will stick with you all day Image IPBImage IPB

Modifié par mage110011, 11 mai 2012 - 06:11 .


#96614
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Well night all,it's close to 1a.m. you all have a pleasant day/evening.Hold the line and the wallets.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Yep! Sounds like a plan. Image IPB

Edit: I will go and invest in a headset today.... if I remember!

I'm never going to get one, I sound HORRRIBLE over them...

Well I've been forgetting for like a year so that shows how keen I am lol. Image IPB

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Good morning everyone! *hugs* for Goodwood & Nharia. The artist who did the Maurader Shields comics got the VA who voiced Nihlus and the codex entries to read the dialogue. Link



Not actualy the actor (it says he plays Nihlus and the narator in the recording you listen to, not the game) But a good impersonation and effort nevertheless

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mage110011 wrote...

this will stick with you all day Image IPBImage IPB

*snips pic*

Please post links instead of pictures... Thank you~!

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Yep! Sounds like a plan. Image IPB

Edit: I will go and invest in a headset today.... if I remember!

I'm never going to get one, I sound HORRRIBLE over them...

Well I've been forgetting for like a year so that shows how keen I am lol. Image IPB

Somehow I end up sounding like a guy... :blink::blink: Yeah I know completely messed up... That's why I've never gone in for the whole Mic thing... :crying:

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Hello there Phoenix! HUG ATTACK

So, how's things going for you? I wish I could talk with you over microphone...

Modifié par Goodwood, 11 mai 2012 - 06:09 .


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Goodwood wrote...

Hello there Phoenix! HUG ATTACK

So, how's things going for you?

Yay! *hugs back* I'm good, how're you doing?

#96621
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Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Yep! Sounds like a plan. Image IPB

Edit: I will go and invest in a headset today.... if I remember!

I'm never going to get one, I sound HORRRIBLE over them...

Well I've been forgetting for like a year so that shows how keen I am lol. Image IPB

Somehow I end up sounding like a guy... :blink::blink: Yeah I know completely messed up... That's why I've never gone in for the whole Mic thing... :crying:

Haha, that sounds interesting! I usually can't stand hearing other people chat over mics but I think that's more when it's people I don't know. Image IPB

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Well I've been forgetting for like a year so that shows how keen I am lol. Image IPB

Somehow I end up sounding like a guy... :blink::blink: Yeah I know completely messed up... That's why I've never gone in for the whole Mic thing... :crying:

Haha, that sounds interesting! I usually can't stand hearing other people chat over mics but I think that's more when it's people I don't know. Image IPB

Somehow I try and match the voices to the names but that doesn't really work... :lol:

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Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Haha, that sounds interesting! I usually can't stand hearing other people chat over mics but I think that's more when it's people I don't know. Image IPB

Somehow I try and match the voices to the names but that doesn't really work... :lol:

Lol, you'd never match my voice to my name I think. Most people seem to have the idea that I speak with a strong Dutch accent but I don't.

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 Thanks for not noticing my presence, Phoenix...:crying:

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Haha, that sounds interesting! I usually can't stand hearing other people chat over mics but I think that's more when it's people I don't know. Image IPB

Somehow I try and match the voices to the names but that doesn't really work... :lol:

Lol, you'd never match my voice to my name I think. Most people seem to have the idea that I speak with a strong Dutch accent but I don't.

Huh I didn't think you were Dutch... :whistle: