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[Phoenix NL]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Saw a friend I have not spoken too on ages yesterday, on xbox live playing a certain game we all love to hate...

Wished him luck with the game... and he replied back that he had heard the ending was disappointing...

Outside the forums I have very few people I can rant and rant and rant about me3 too, mainly because not many people I know have played it/ like it, I wanted to shout from the rooftops... yes it sucks its terrible, it will make you cry!

But instead I said he was right it is, and that he should play it and form his own opinion... like the matrix it can't be explained to someone, just experienced (I never got that though anyway, just say... lots of big metal towers and naakeed people in life pods would be a pretty good summing up, though I suppose the point is no one would believe you until they saw it... disregard this last bit lol)

Yea the only other person I know outside the forum who's finished it is my youngest brother and he was a bit meh about the ending but he doesn't get particularly attatched to games. He was quite happy to put it down and move onto the next game..... the freak! So I can't moan to him about it.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Phoenix NL wrote...


Yea the only other person I know outside the forum who's finished it is my youngest brother and he was a bit meh about the ending but he doesn't get particularly attatched to games. He was quite happy to put it down and move onto the next game..... the freak! So I can't moan to him about it.

Ahh the internet... connecting people for the purposes of communal rage since (to lazy to look up exact year internet became a mass market thing)

[-PG-Skyre]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...


Yea the only other person I know outside the forum who's finished it is my youngest brother and he was a bit meh about the ending but he doesn't get particularly attatched to games. He was quite happy to put it down and move onto the next game..... the freak! So I can't moan to him about it.

Ahh the internet... connecting people for the purposes of communal rage since (to lazy to look up exact year internet became a mass market thing)

The internet came about between 1973–90. Although it didn't become commercial till the later part of that timeframe.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

-PG-Skyre wrote...


The internet came about between 1973–90. Although it didn't become commercial till the later part of that timeframe.

Hence my problem... lol

[Phoenix NL]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

The internet came about between 1973–90. Although it didn't become commercial till the later part of that timeframe.

Hence my problem... lol

You've kept up with the times remarkably well Biggles!

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Phoenix NL wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...

The internet came about between 1973–90. Although it didn't become commercial till the later part of that timeframe.

Hence my problem... lol

You've kept up with the times remarkably well Biggles!

Well in my day you would have to send a wire down to HQ to get anything done... but they were usualy cut by Hun shelling so you would have to send a dispatch rider... and...

[-PG-Skyre]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

-PG-Skyre wrote...


The internet came about between 1973–90. Although it didn't become commercial till the later part of that timeframe.

Hence my problem... lol

Sorry about the rarity of old planes mate. There are still some good biplanes out amongst the farmlands on the world (Biggles books are awesome).

[Tonymac]

I have a few people that I talk Mass Effect with. Only one thinks the ending is ok. He says you know Shep was gonna die - so who cares? I think I need to slip his prozac into his coffee, just to make sure he takes it.

[Phoenix NL]

Tonymac wrote...

I have a few people that I talk Mass Effect with. Only one thinks the ending is ok. He says you know Shep was gonna die - so who cares? I think I need to slip his prozac into his coffee, just to make sure he takes it.

Lol, so the gaping Joker-escaping-in-the-Normandy sized plot holes didn't bother him?

[Tonymac]

His opinion is - they had to end it - so who cares how bad it is. Does it make sense? His reply is - does it matter? You're dead.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

-PG-Skyre wrote...


Sorry about the rarity of old planes mate. There are still some good biplanes out amongst the farmlands on the world (Biggles books are awesome).

I don't think biggles is too sentimental, I think in his later career he even flew things like the Hawker Hunter (Jet fighter) but I don't even want to think what age he was then... the only books worth reading are his WW1 career, some of is 30's (a lot of them are "products of their time" to put it lightly... Not for readers without critical thinking skills!) career and his ww2 career... Anything after that is probably crap lol, I don't know How I remember all this, I have not read any of them for quite a few years...

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Tonymac wrote...

His opinion is - they had to end it - so who cares how bad it is. Does it make sense? His reply is - does it matter? You're dead.

Well at least you now know which friend to leave behind in a no win situation...

[g_bassi13]

Goodwood wrote...

You know, that whole series of scenes where we first confront Kai Leng fell short of what I was hoping for on my first playthrough. I didn't quite see the forced emotion then (that has since changed), but what really got my goat was that they took a lot of control away from the player. Here we have Mr. Ninja Man running away in a car, and I was just dying for an LotSB-type chase sequence! Instead, we get a few unplayable action sequences, ending in your standard car crash that takes you to the next set of corridor shooting.

Sheesh, talk about missed opportunities.

The aspect of player agency is missing throughout the entire game. Well, it's actually strongly present in two distinct moments, and parts of the lead up to them. And it's not a coincidence at all that they're the best written parts of the game. One being the moment where you choose, or not, to inform the Krogans about the sabatoge. The second being the moment when you allow, or stop, Legion to upload the Geth code.

These moments are brilliantly written, where there's a sense of doubt imparted to making what you might call the right decision. With the Genophage cure, I was seriously questioning my earlier postion that I had to go through with the cure. And with the Geth, Legion wouldn't stop decieving me, and when it came down to it, I could no longer trust him, or agree with his ideals for the Geth's future. I could break down seprately how exactly these were awesome, but just know that it's because of your choice based on your interpretation of the circumstances, and the ultimate consequences (That being that very sense of player agency that was present thoughout almost all of the first two games, but absent for the rest of ME3).

It's funny how those are so very, very well written, and the rest of the game is so blah (at best). And the ending even ruins those, lol. Everything from the build up to the ending, to of course the ending itself, is not just blah, but terribly written and implemented.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 11 mai 2012 - 10:59 .

[Major Swift]

Tonymac wrote...

I have a few people that I talk Mass Effect with. Only one thinks the ending is ok. He says you know Shep was gonna die - so who cares? I think I need to slip his prozac into his coffee, just to make sure he takes it.

I always have a problem when someone says that, no I didn't think for one instant he was going to die (unless I messed up or half-assed my way through game) seeing that he lived through everything else
Also, random but yay! solo'd silver with my low level salarian infiltrator lol

[Tonymac]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Tonymac wrote...

His opinion is - they had to end it - so who cares how bad it is. Does it make sense? His reply is - does it matter? You're dead.

Well at least you now know which friend to leave behind in a no win situation...

Life is a Kobayashi Maru.  But, this is elementary.  We all know this.

I play games to escape life, traffic, and the desire to kill every child I encounter in an air duct.  Sorry man, but I gotta drop a frag on him.

[-PG-Skyre]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

I don't think biggles is too sentimental, I think in his later career he even flew things like the Hawker Hunter (Jet fighter) but I don't even want to think what age he was then... the only books worth reading are his WW1 career, some of is 30's (a lot of them are "products of their time" to put it lightly... Not for readers without critical thinking skills!) career and his ww2 career... Anything after that is probably crap lol, I don't know How I remember all this, I have not read any of them for quite a few years...

been a few years since I've read em too, don't worry. But he did seem to prefer the WW1/2 planes and the fighting style then.

[-PG-Skyre]

Tonymac wrote...

His opinion is - they had to end it - so who cares how bad it is. Does it make sense? His reply is - does it matter? You're dead.

He's an action gamer? Likes games where things blow up and whatnot? (Call Of Duty comes to mind). If so, he wasn't playing it for the story, but rather the making things explode factor xD

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Major Swift wrote...


I always have a problem when someone says that, no I didn't think for one instant he was going to die (unless I messed up or half-assed my way through game) seeing that he lived through everything else
Also, random but yay! solo'd silver with my low level salarian infiltrator lol

Everyone seemed to think it was going to be Epic win, phyric win, or Epic fail... though maybe that was too obvious... Not that I am complaining it was not that... I just expected it to be distinctly different whatever it was. Sure the diferences do have major implications for the future of the Galaxy... its just that bioware did not seem to think anyone would like to know what they were...

If the EC makes the happy ending mean a bit of a slower fix for the galaxy, at this point I don't care... If there will be no games in the ME universe beyond this point why not go for the most basely satisfying ending, sure other people might die... but they are not real people and we will never see or feel the implications of this so who would take the moral highground (if there was one) just for the sake of it?

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 11 mai 2012 - 11:05 .

[Major Swift]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Yep! Sounds like a plan.

Edit: I will go and invest in a headset today.... if I remember!

I'm never going to get one, I sound HORRRIBLE over them...

Well I've been forgetting for like a year so that shows how keen I am lol.

*decides to actually go back to catch up on missed pages he skipped over* funny thing is i have like 3 mics somewhere around here and i never use them haha

[Major Swift]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Major Swift wrote...


I always have a problem when someone says that, no I didn't think for one instant he was going to die (unless I messed up or half-assed my way through game) seeing that he lived through everything else
Also, random but yay! solo'd silver with my low level salarian infiltrator lol

Everyone seemed to think it was going to be Epic win, phyric win, or Epic fail... though maybe that was too obvious... Not that I am complaining it was not that... I just expected it to be distinctly different whatever it was. Sure the diferences do have major implications for the future of the Galaxy... its just that bioware did not seem to think anyone would like to know what they were...

If the EC makes the happy ending mean a bit of a slower fix for the galaxy, at this point I don't care... If there will be no games in the ME universe beyond this point why not go for the most basely satisfying ending, sure other people might die... but they are not real people and we will never see or feel the implications of this so who would take the moral highground (if there was one) just for the sake of it?

read a tweet a couple days ago that said EC is showing us what we were suppose to infer before, how? lol, also they didn't even have an ending where the reapers won like they said they would (well technically they win in every choice since i sure as hell didn't "win" lmao)

[BigglesFlysAgain]

-PG-Skyre wrote...



been a few years since I've read em too, don't worry. But he did seem to prefer the WW1/2 planes and the fighting style then.

Too be fair I remember him grumbling near the end of WW1 of all the new things being introduced that made flying too easy, but he seems to have gotten over it by ww2 lol

[Major Swift]

what they will use for the EC scene showing Shepard telling your squad to go back to the Normandy :lol:

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Major Swift wrote...


read a tweet a couple days ago that said EC is showing us what we were suppose to infer before, how? lol, also they didn't even have an ending where the reapers won like they said they would (well technically they win in every choice since i sure as hell didn't "win" lmao)

Oh dear... not the we're too stupid to get it properly one lol...

Lol so what? even in the lives ending we make the leap that he is found and recieves medical attention before he dies... then the alliance diverts precious resources from saving civilians on earth and (assuming they can fix the relays or somthing) securing the colonies, to find the crew of one ship, just becuase of the sentimental value to the commander... And they do this and they do find them before they starve on Eden VIII or wherever they are...

And.. and...


^ Da videeeoh is a perfiiict maaach to da situation you describe

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 11 mai 2012 - 11:20 .

[Phoenix NL]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Major Swift wrote...


read a tweet a couple days ago that said EC is showing us what we were suppose to infer before, how? lol, also they didn't even have an ending where the reapers won like they said they would (well technically they win in every choice since i sure as hell didn't "win" lmao)

Oh dear... not the we're too stupid to get it properly one lol...

Lol so what? even in the lives ending we make the leap that he is found and recieves medical attention before he dies... then the alliance diverts precious resources from saving civilians on earth and (assuming they can fix the relays or somthing) securing the colonies, to find the crew of one ship, just becuase of the sentimental value to the commander... And they do this and they do find them before they starve on Eden VIII or wherever they are...

And.. and...


^ Da videeeoh is a perfiiict maaach to da situation you describe

All of these points have been addressed in my fic. It just sad that I have to write the ending of someone else's game. *sigh*

[Major Swift]

https://twitter.com/...995931851112448 there found it