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Kyria Nyriese

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*cough* GW2 *cough*


I have no idea what that is. i've seen people reference it from time to time, but never a full name.


Probably Guild Wars 2


Yep... I'm actually considering this one.  I beta'd Guild Wars and didn't really like it, but at that point my only experience with MMOs was SWG.

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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

Laterali wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...


*cough* GW2 *cough*


I have no idea what that is. i've seen people reference it from time to time, but never a full name.


Probably Guild Wars 2


Yep... I'm actually considering this one.  I beta'd Guild Wars and didn't really like it, but at that point my only experience with MMOs was SWG.

Ive heard that GW2 is going to be pay once for the actual game and then its just micro-transactions, is that true?

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Kyria Nyriese wrote...

FinalEndeavor wrote...

Laterali wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...


*cough* GW2 *cough*


I have no idea what that is. i've seen people reference it from time to time, but never a full name.


Probably Guild Wars 2


Yep... I'm actually considering this one.  I beta'd Guild Wars and didn't really like it, but at that point my only experience with MMOs was SWG.

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Tyion133 wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yep... I'm actually considering this one.  I beta'd Guild Wars and didn't really like it, but at that point my only experience with MMOs was SWG.

Ive heard that GW2 is going to be pay once for the actual game and then its just micro-transactions, is that true?

You pay upfront for the game and there are no monthly subscription fees. You can purchase add-ons or extras but you don't have to and you can enjoy the full game without ever doing so.

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FinalEndeavor wrote...

Laterali wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...


*cough* GW2 *cough*


I have no idea what that is. i've seen people reference it from time to time, but never a full name.


Probably Guild Wars 2


Ah, I have never heard of it, nor Guild Wars.

I  am currently checking a video about it. First thing that piqued my interest was the "buy to play" line. I like that they made it you spend the 50 or 60 dollars for the game and you can play it forever. That's how it should be. And of course the microtransactions which I have no problem with in MMOs, cause it's optional and I don't use it.

If they did an open beta I'd try it, I don't pre order games anymore, I've been burned too many times.. *clears throat*...DA2...

I am trying all these free to play MMOs again, because the games that I usually play, Bioware games, no longer hold interest to me, and the only game I'm interested in buying at the moment is Max Payne 3, and I refuse to buy it at full price. PC download should not be the same price as a physical copy.

They originally tried to shove digital downloads down our throats because they claimed it would save them money on packaging and marketing, and more would go to the developers, and in turn they could offer it cheaper. Now they are trying to charge the same price for something that cost them less.

Edit* I seriously spelled piqued, peaked..... uhh, my spelling gets worse every day I spend on the internet.

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 Pretty sure they're sticking with "buy it once, then you're set until the expansion comes out". Haven't played 1 in a while, but I think I got my money's worth out of it. Might give 2 a shot when it comes out if I ever regain an interest to play anything other than TF2 or Minecraft, killed by The End ™

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That is how Guild Wars has operated in the past, yes. But I think people are fooling themselves if they think it's going to radically different from existing MMOs. Slightly more lively, better combat, but the functionality is going to remain the same.

I hear PvP is awesome, at least, so I hope you like that. Me, I'd rather invest more time in Terraria or Minecraft or something.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yep... I'm actually considering this one.  I beta'd Guild Wars and didn't really like it, but at that point my only experience with MMOs was SWG.

Ive heard that GW2 is going to be pay once for the actual game and then its just micro-transactions, is that true?

You pay upfront for the game and there are no monthly subscription fees. You can purchase add-ons or extras but you don't have to and you can enjoy the full game without ever doing so.

Okay, I gotta admit that I like that way of doing an MMO... The montly subscription thing is getting old...

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sagevallant wrote...

That is how Guild Wars has operated in the past, yes. But I think people are fooling themselves if they think it's going to radically different from existing MMOs. Slightly more lively, better combat, but the functionality is going to remain the same.

I hear PvP is awesome, at least, so I hope you like that. Me, I'd rather invest more time in Terraria or Minecraft or something.

I've played the beta and from what I've seen it's holding true to the original GW but with improvements. We'll see when it's properly released I guess.

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Tyion133 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Yep... I'm actually considering this one.  I beta'd Guild Wars and didn't really like it, but at that point my only experience with MMOs was SWG.

Ive heard that GW2 is going to be pay once for the actual game and then its just micro-transactions, is that true?

You pay upfront for the game and there are no monthly subscription fees. You can purchase add-ons or extras but you don't have to and you can enjoy the full game without ever doing so.

Okay, I gotta admit that I like that way of doing an MMO... The montly subscription thing is getting old...


Just don't expect a cascade of endgame content after launch. As anything other than an expansion pack, anyway.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

That is how Guild Wars has operated in the past, yes. But I think people are fooling themselves if they think it's going to radically different from existing MMOs. Slightly more lively, better combat, but the functionality is going to remain the same.

I hear PvP is awesome, at least, so I hope you like that. Me, I'd rather invest more time in Terraria or Minecraft or something.

I've played the beta and from what I've seen it's holding true to the original GW but with improvements. We'll see when it's properly released I guess.


Most of my experience with it are that the most active fanbase of Guild Wars 2 is a pack of rabid wildebeasts trampling anyone who dares suggest that we should actually play it before declaring it the Second Coming of Kung Fu Action Jesus. Perhaps the most inflamatory, irate, venomous fanbase I have ever encountered. Every time I watched a video of TOR pre-release on youtube it was FLOODED with people claiming TOR was terrible and GW2 was going to crush all competing MMOs into paste.

It makes me want to never even consider playing GW2. :?

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I just love how corrupt gameinformer still is. In this months issue, they try to win back fans with an article on page 21 saying how game companies only want our money and don't care about anything else. Then there is not even a mention of ME3 for the rest of the issue. Until you get to the end,on page 97 (second to the last page) they give ME3 a 10 and say it was one of the most 'intricately crafted' games ever made. It's good to see that BW is still hurting for good reviews and are paying off everyone they can to get a good review.

I agree that 'most' of the game is one of the best games i've ever played. But there is still that last 10 minutes of crap at the end of it. Next time, put a review out thats not glossing over the crappy parts and only talking about the good ones.

I also noticed, you know how they take games and give each part of it an overall score. Like the story gets a 5, the controls a 3, ect. Has anyone else noticed they are skipping that when it comes to ME3?

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Guild Wars 2 seems like an MMO I would consider supporting. The biggest thing I hate about MMOs though, is the fact that you need to rely on groups for a lot of content. For the most part, I hate people, and I would rather not have to depend on someone else for completing a task.

If they made group activity optional, or made easier versions of those instances for solo, I would be more inclined to play them.

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sagevallant wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

That is how Guild Wars has operated in the past, yes. But I think people are fooling themselves if they think it's going to radically different from existing MMOs. Slightly more lively, better combat, but the functionality is going to remain the same.

I hear PvP is awesome, at least, so I hope you like that. Me, I'd rather invest more time in Terraria or Minecraft or something.

I've played the beta and from what I've seen it's holding true to the original GW but with improvements. We'll see when it's properly released I guess.


Most of my experience with it are that the most active fanbase of Guild Wars 2 is a pack of rabid wildebeasts trampling anyone who dares suggest that we should actually play it before declaring it the Second Coming of Kung Fu Action Jesus. Perhaps the most inflamatory, irate, venomous fanbase I have ever encountered. Every time I watched a video of TOR pre-release on youtube it was FLOODED with people claiming TOR was terrible and GW2 was going to crush all competing MMOs into paste.

It makes me want to never even consider playing GW2. :?

Wow that would put anyone off. Never experienced that personally but then I just enjoyed the game and left it at that. Image IPB

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Darth Spike wrote...

I just love how corrupt gameinformer still is. In this months issue, they try to win back fans with an article on page 21 saying how game companies only want our money and don't care about anything else. Then there is not even a mention of ME3 for the rest of the issue. Until you get to the end,on page 97 (second to the last page) they give ME3 a 10 and say it was one of the most 'intricately crafted' games ever made. It's good to see that BW is still hurting for good reviews and are paying off everyone they can to get a good review.

I agree that 'most' of the game is one of the best games i've ever played. But there is still that last 10 minutes of crap at the end of it. Next time, put a review out thats not glossing over the crappy parts and only talking about the good ones.

I also noticed, you know how they take games and give each part of it an overall score. Like the story gets a 5, the controls a 3, ect. Has anyone else noticed they are skipping that when it comes to ME3?


I tend to ignore game critics that give games a perfect score. There is no perfect game. It could be the most fun you ever had playing, but there is always a downside to it, or something that was done poorly. I also ignore game critics that give games a 2 or 3 score, which gamespot loves to do to small developers that can't afford to advertise on their site. There are always redeeming qualities just as there are problems.

I remember when DAO came out. At the time, it was as close to perfect as it could get for me, but there were still things that bugged the **** out of me. Biggest gripe, the fade quest. It was the most boring thing I've ever encountered in a game, and it lasted what seemed to be forever. I downloaded the mod that skips it entirely, and the game was so much more enjoyable. Also the constant running back and forth in missions, how many times to I need to run back and forth through the Dalish forest, and there's only one exit, on the far other side.

And I remember when ME1 came out. It was like god parted the clouds and handed me the game himself. And then I got into the elevator. and another elevator, and then another elevator. I loved the Mako, I loved driving around on those planets, looking up at the giant suns. It was amazing, and I still love it. Then I got to that one green planet, I used to have the name memorized, but it escapes me. The one that was all mountains, and no matter how hard you tried, it took you forever to get through it.

Long story short (too late) a person who gives a game a perfect score can't be taken seriously. They are either biased, or poor critics.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

@ToffeeTrooper - I have a new video for you!



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Laterali wrote...

Guild Wars 2 seems like an MMO I would consider supporting. The biggest thing I hate about MMOs though, is the fact that you need to rely on groups for a lot of content. For the most part, I hate people, and I would rather not have to depend on someone else for completing a task.

If they made group activity optional, or made easier versions of those instances for solo, I would be more inclined to play them.

If the beta is anything to go by they've changed it so that you don't need to rely on groups. You travel through the world and "events" will take place that you can take part in along with anyone else running around but you can also ignore it and just continue the SP bits.

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Phoenix NL wrote...

Laterali wrote...

Guild Wars 2 seems like an MMO I would consider supporting. The biggest thing I hate about MMOs though, is the fact that you need to rely on groups for a lot of content. For the most part, I hate people, and I would rather not have to depend on someone else for completing a task.

If they made group activity optional, or made easier versions of those instances for solo, I would be more inclined to play them.

If the beta is anything to go by they've changed it so that you don't need to rely on groups. You travel through the world and "events" will take place that you can take part in along with anyone else running around but you can also ignore it and just continue the SP bits.

Ahh kinda like Rift?  Where you can pretty much solo everything, but then you have events that take place and public groups that form up as people come through to the event?

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Laterali wrote...
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I remember when DAO came out. At the time, it was as close to perfect as it could get for me, but there were still things that bugged the **** out of me. Biggest gripe, the fade quest. It was the most boring thing I've ever encountered in a game, and it lasted what seemed to be forever. I downloaded the mod that skips it entirely, and the game was so much more enjoyable. Also the constant running back and forth in missions, how many times to I need to run back and forth through the Dalish forest, and there's only one exit, on the far other side.

And I remember when ME1 came out. It was like god parted the clouds and handed me the game himself. And then I got into the elevator. and another elevator, and then another elevator. I loved the Mako, I loved driving around on those planets, looking up at the giant suns. It was amazing, and I still love it. Then I got to that one green planet, I used to have the name memorized, but it escapes me. The one that was all mountains, and no matter how hard you tried, it took you forever to get through it.
*snip*

oh hell don't ever mention that place again lol Image IPB i felt like i'd never escape the damn fade and i still can't escape it because my copy is for the xbox 360Image IPB and i hated that planet, though i can't remember the name either

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Laterali wrote...

Guild Wars 2 seems like an MMO I would consider supporting. The biggest thing I hate about MMOs though, is the fact that you need to rely on groups for a lot of content. For the most part, I hate people, and I would rather not have to depend on someone else for completing a task.

If they made group activity optional, or made easier versions of those instances for solo, I would be more inclined to play them.


Sounds to me like you enjoy the RPG part, not the MMO part. Nothing wrong with that, but the RPG part of an MMORPG is always going to be flawed next to a plain old RPG.

Shame that the west has all but abandoned making quality RPGs. Unless you like the formula that Elder Scrolls uses, and I don't. And the east just cranks out grindfest after grindfest, or games that think they are movies and feel that the less input the player has, the better.

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toffeetrooper wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

@ToffeeTrooper - I have a new video for you!



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Will this make up for it?

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Phoenix NL wrote...

I've played the beta and from what I've seen it's holding true to the original GW but with improvements. We'll see when it's properly released I guess.


The Beta was fun and I like the idea ur not forced into groups if u don't want to but I tried The Area Events and they are fun to do plus they did for me at least ask for feedback on almost everything.  I just hope they do actually take into account the feedback they get.

I'm hoping there is another beta weekend at the end of May as they want to do a few before it's eventually released.