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[Phoenix NL]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

I like this man - he gets it!

What is it with Rpg makers and 16 though? lol

Well at least they actually put in 16 different endings unlike the mythical ones that BioWare did. Not sure why that specific number though.

[Phoenix NL]

Major Swift wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Where did I go wrong I killed the thread
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save the thread

Lol (song by the fray with obvious changes for anyone that doesn't know lol)

How to Save a Life - very appropriate choice lol.

Lol yep funny thing is I can sound exactly like him when I sing any of their songs lol

Haha, I've got that song in my head now!

[HITMAN629]

Major Swift wrote...

Where did I go wrong I killed the thread
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save the thread

Lol (song by the fray with obvious changes for anyone that doesn't know lol)

Sing! Sing! For the thread!!

[Phoenix NL]

HITMAN629 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Where did I go wrong I killed the thread
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save the thread

Lol (song by the fray with obvious changes for anyone that doesn't know lol)

Sing! Sing! For the thread!!

That's very Phantom of the Opera of you.....

[Major Swift]

Phoenix NL wrote...

I like this man - he gets it!

Ditto! And I liked the endings I got in witcher 2 beat it as both sides of the story and liked it was pretty different 2nd chapter depending who you went with (well besides one that id classify as bad things happened lol)

[sagevallant]

Phoenix NL wrote...

Laterali wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...rojekt-red-ceo/

Article about Witcher 2, an interview with CDProjekt Red's CEO, and the last paragraph of the article he discusses the backlash of ME3. It's more a pitch for his own game but...

"what did you think about the very vocal fan reaction to the ending of Mass Effect 3?

RPGs are games you invest a lot of your time into. They
become part of your life for quite a while. During this time you highly
identify yourself with the character you play, so if suddenly, after
100+ of hours and few instalments of the series you find out that
whatever you did throughout this whole time, whatever choices you made,
the end is the same, well, I think that disappointment is
understandable. It clearly shows that gamers expect, that their choices
in the RPGs they play are really meaningful – and that’s what both the
Witcher and the Witcher 2 are about.
We actually went so far in Witcher 2 that,
depending on the player’s choice in Chapter One there are two totally
different versions of Chapter Two, two different locations and two
different storylines. To see both, you have to play the game twice. On
top of that the game has 16 different endings depending on gamers
choices throughout the whole game. There are decisions and there the
consequences and you see it from the beginning to the end of both
Witchers."

I like this man - he gets it!

They made GoG, which is a website where you can go to get DRM FREE versions of PC classICS like Baldur's Gate and NWN and PLANESCAPE TORMENT, many of which include bonuses like soundtracks. All of which are reworked in order to be playable on, say, Windows 7. And receive a little polish in regards to graphics.

Witcher 2 is also on there DRM free, and if you bought it elsewhere you can get a DRM free backup copy from them for free. These guys are all about playing to the pc gamer's desires, it's what they're built on and they've had success with it. And I've heard Witcher 2 is one of the best PC to 360 ports ever.

[HITMAN629]

Phoenix NL wrote...

HITMAN629 wrote...

Sing! Sing! For the thread!!

That's very Phantom of the Opera of you.....

Yes, somebody had to do it.

[HITMAN629]

sagevallant wrote...
 And I've heard Witcher 2 is one of the best PC to 360 ports ever.

If you put graphics aside (They dont hold a canlde to the PC version). Then yes is a very good port in all other aspects.

[Laterali]

sagevallant wrote...

They made GoG, which is a website where you can go to get DRM FREE versions of PC classICS like Baldur's Gate and NWN and PLANESCAPE TORMENT, many of which include bonuses like soundtracks. All of which are reworked in order to be playable on, say, Windows 7. And receive a little polish in regards to graphics.

Witcher 2 is also on there DRM free, and if you bought it elsewhere you can get a DRM free backup copy from them for free. These guys are all about playing to the pc gamer's desires, it's what they're built on and they've had success with it. And I've heard Witcher 2 is one of the best PC to 360 ports ever.

When I got my copy of Witcher 2 off gog, they gave me the game guide, the soundtrack, the artwork, some papercraft dolls, dev diaries, and just a ton more stuff. All for 50 dollars.

For people that bought ME3 at full price, wasn't it like 80 dollars for the comparable edition?

CD Projekt is rpg's last bastion of good games.

[sagevallant]

HITMAN629 wrote...

sagevallant wrote...
 And I've heard Witcher 2 is one of the best PC to 360 ports ever.

If you put graphics aside (They dont hold a candle to the PC version). Then yes is a very good port in all other aspects.

Well DUH. They made that game very carefully for the PC to make the most of your graphics card. The 360 is outdated tech. But then, I hear it's still pretty good compared to other Xbox games. Not bad for a first attempt at programming for a console, right?

[sagevallant]

Laterali wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

They made GoG, which is a website where you can go to get DRM FREE versions of PC classICS like Baldur's Gate and NWN and PLANESCAPE TORMENT, many of which include bonuses like soundtracks. All of which are reworked in order to be playable on, say, Windows 7. And receive a little polish in regards to graphics.

Witcher 2 is also on there DRM free, and if you bought it elsewhere you can get a DRM free backup copy from them for free. These guys are all about playing to the pc gamer's desires, it's what they're built on and they've had success with it. And I've heard Witcher 2 is one of the best PC to 360 ports ever.

When I got my copy of Witcher 2 off gog, they gave me the game guide, the soundtrack, the artwork, some papercraft dolls, dev diaries, and just a ton more stuff. All for 50 dollars.

For people that bought ME3 at full price, wasn't it like 80 dollars for the comparable edition?

CD Projekt is rpg's last bastion of good games.

Sure, leave off the naughty playboy pics of Triss why don't you? 

[Laterali]

sagevallant wrote...

Sure, leave off the naughty playboy pics of Triss why don't you? 

Yeah but they didn't give me those, I would have had to import a Polish Playboy for those. I thought that was hilariously awesome that they did that. It supposedly was a pretty popular issue too. The Witcher is a big deal there, Poland's Prime Minister even gave a copy of Witcher 2 to Obama when he visited.

[Lestatman]

sagevallant wrote...

They made GoG, which is a website where you can go to get DRM FREE versions of PC classICS like Baldur's Gate and NWN and PLANESCAPE TORMENT, many of which include bonuses like soundtracks. All of which are reworked in order to be playable on, say, Windows 7. And receive a little polish in regards to graphics.

Witcher 2 is also on there DRM free, and if you bought it elsewhere you can get a DRM free backup copy from them for free. These guys are all about playing to the pc gamer's desires, it's what they're built on and they've had success with it. And I've heard Witcher 2 is one of the best PC to 360 ports ever.

GoG is where I got both Witcher and Witcher 2 as sadly no PS3 version but just finished Witcher 1 2 days ago and the quality of both games is very high.

[HITMAN629]

sagevallant wrote...

 But then, I hear it's still pretty good compared to other Xbox games. Not bad for a first attempt at programming for a console, right?

Not bad compared to other Xbox games & a very good first attempt.

Modifié par HITMAN629, 12 mai 2012 - 03:56 .

[sagevallant]

Laterali wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

Sure, leave off the naughty playboy pics of Triss why don't you? 

Yeah but they didn't give me those, I would have had to import a Polish Playboy for those. I thought that was hilariously awesome that they did that. It supposedly was a pretty popular issue too. The Witcher is a big deal there, Poland's Prime Minister even gave a copy of Witcher 2 to Obama when he visited.

Hm. You must've bought it at launch then? I bet if you go back they're probably available now?

It's Poland, and it's an internationally acclaimed game based on novels. It's probably the best thing to come out of Poland in.... ever? Besides polish sausage anyway, that stuff is delicious. Smoked > plain.

[Laterali]

sagevallant wrote...

Sure, leave off the naughty playboy pics of Triss why don't you? 

That gets me thinking...Playboys of ME LI's?

It could work perfect for Tali, all they'd have to do is photoshop an earlier playboy....

sagevallant wrote...


Hm. You must've bought it at launch then? I bet if you go back they're probably available now?

It's
Poland, and it's an internationally acclaimed game based on novels.
It's probably the best thing to come out of Poland in.... ever? Besides
polish sausage anyway, that stuff is delicious. Smoked > plain.

Yeah I did, I've read the first 2 books, and I've even watched the Polish tv show based on the books, which I actually quite enjoyed. I'm waiting for the 3rd book to be translated into a language I can read, but I don't hold much hope of it happening.

Modifié par Laterali, 12 mai 2012 - 03:59 .

[ld1449]

You know it occurs to me that Bioware could be trying to get our expectations REALLY low for the EC. The higher your expectations the harder it is to meet them. The more dissapointment your expecting, its arguably easier to satisfy you since if they make something even mildly good you were always expecting alot worse.

That or they're just trying to cover all their bases

[Lestatman]

[quote]Laterali wrote...

That gets me thinking...Playboys of ME LI's?

It could work perfect for Tali, all they'd have to do is photoshop an earlier playboy....

[quote]

Photoshop ... Tali ... what does that remind me of ... oh yeah her face reveal ... artistic integrity.

Modifié par Lestatman, 12 mai 2012 - 04:02 .

[lord berwick]

Just checking in.

Right after the EC was announced, it seemed rather pointless giving Bioware more feedback or constructive criticisms. And it's taken me a while to find a decent way to explain why the ME3 ending left me so very disappointed, and why more 'clarity and closure' probably won't satisfy me.

The best analogy I can come up with is that playing the ME series is like going to an exceptionally good French restaurant and dining on a 9 course degustation (the most I've done is 5 courses; no, I don't feel guilty; yes, it was divine). Each dish is incredible, with increasing levels of depth, complexity and sophistication. As you get to the final course, you wonder what it could be; chocolate soufflé with creme anglais, or a chocolate and hazelnut parfait with a sorrel mint granita, or could it be a walnut tarte, with Roquefort ice-cream and honey thyme grilled figs? Something at least as good as everything else that had been served before it. Something that will make you wish the evening never ended and make you savor every minute you spent in that restaurant. You look around the table, everyone excited to see how the evening ends.

And then they serve fruit salad.

You look disbelievingly at the waiter, wondering if it's a joke. Alas, it is not. It's exactly what the head chef intended to do. Your eyes settle back to your companions, all looking as confused as you. This is not what you expected; the excitement is replaced by bewilderment, the evening sullied.

You and your companions finish your meal, but don't even stay for the petit fours. You relate the experience to others. Your review is not glowing. You never return to that restaurant, wondering if the chefs truly know how to complete a meal.

[Laterali]

Lestatman wrote...


Photoshop ... Tali ... what does that remind me of ... oh yeah her face reveal ... artistic integrity.

Great isn't it. Whenever I half-ass something from now on and get guff from someone I'm claiming artistic integrity.
Nurse "Excuse me sir, you didn't fill out these forms correctly"
"Artistic Integrity, mam!"

Cable company Cashier," Sir, your bill says you owe 75 dollars, you've given me 15."
"Artistic Integrity, sir!"

Modifié par Laterali, 12 mai 2012 - 04:07 .

[sagevallant]

Laterali wrote...

Lestatman wrote...


Photoshop ... Tali ... what does that remind me of ... oh yeah her face reveal ... artistic integrity.

Great isn't it. Whenever I half-ass something from now on and get guff from someone I'm claiming artistic integrity.
Nurse "Excuse me sir, you didn't fill out these forms correctly"
"Artistic Integrity, mam!"

Cable company Cashier," Sir, your bill says you owe 75 dollars, you've given me 15."
"Artistic Integrity, sir!"

Only way I'll grant artistic integrity is if they use the Indoctrination Theory. Otherwise, it's poor writing.

[Koobarex]

I'm a bit overwhelmed with everything at the moment, so  instead of making a forum-specific announcement, let me just put this here and ask anyone who likes the comics to pass this around or even create a specific thread:

http://koobismo.devi...-Hope-301574876

EPIC STUFF is coming!

Hold the line!

[Phoenix NL]

lord berwick wrote...

Just checking in.

Right after the EC was announced, it seemed rather pointless giving Bioware more feedback or constructive criticisms. And it's taken me a while to find a decent way to explain why the ME3 ending left me so very disappointed, and why more 'clarity and closure' probably won't satisfy me.

The best analogy I can come up with is that playing the ME series is like going to an exceptionally good French restaurant and dining on a 9 course degustation (the most I've done is 5 courses; no, I don't feel guilty; yes, it was divine). Each dish is incredible, with increasing levels of depth, complexity and sophistication. As you get to the final course, you wonder what it could be; chocolate soufflé with creme anglais, or a chocolate and hazelnut parfait with a sorrel mint granita, or could it be a walnut tarte, with Roquefort ice-cream and honey thyme grilled figs? Something at least as good as everything else that had been served before it. Something that will make you wish the evening never ended and make you savor every minute you spent in that restaurant. You look around the table, everyone excited to see how the evening ends.

And then they serve fruit salad.

You look disbelievingly at the waiter, wondering if it's a joke. Alas, it is not. It's exactly what the head chef intended to do. Your eyes settle back to your companions, all looking as confused as you. This is not what you expected; the excitement is replaced by bewilderment, the evening sullied.

You and your companions finish your meal, but don't even stay for the petit fours. You relate the experience to others. Your review is not glowing. You never return to that restaurant, wondering if the chefs truly know how to complete a meal.

Good analogy, however there is one problem with it.... it has made me hungry!

[Ramshakkle]

ld1449 wrote...

You know it occurs to me that Bioware could be trying to get our expectations REALLY low for the EC. The higher your expectations the harder it is to meet them. The more dissapointment your expecting, its arguably easier to satisfy you since if they make something even mildly good you were always expecting alot worse.

That or they're just trying to cover all their bases

Troll logic dictates that BW is obviously going to add this promise of not changing the endings to the already long list of ones broken.

[lord berwick]

Phoenix NL wrote...
Good analogy, however there is one problem with it.... it has made me hungry!

I was wondering if that would happen to someone.

I'm guessing that now would not be a good time to tell you I had a galette with swiss cheese, prosciutto and sundried tomatoes, and a crepe with nutella slathered all the way through it for dinner last night, right?