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[Phoenix NL]

lord berwick wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...
Good analogy, however there is one problem with it.... it has made me hungry!

I was wondering if that would happen to someone.

I'm guessing that now would not be a good time to tell you I had a galette with swiss cheese, prosciutto and sundried tomatoes, and a crepe with nutella slathered all the way through it for dinner last night, right?

*drools* that all sounds so nice.... can't beat a good nutella crepe!

[KaiserinKai]

And now a word from the resident JRPG nut.

People call JRPGs linear. Yet the one I just finished, Devil Survivor: Overclocked, had more endings than ME3, they were more varied as well.

It's sad that one of the few Western RPGs that I loved, that is also the only shooter that I have ever loved couldn't have a half decent ending... It's been weeks and weeks and I still can't get over it...

This has been a word from the resident JRPG nut.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Ramshakkle wrote...



Troll logic dictates that BW is obviously going to add this promise of not changing the endings to the already long list of ones broken.

Ah but if you read Professor XxYourmomxLstN1texX's thesis on trolology he argues quite well that trolls will on average say somthing true, as long as this truth is anoying to many people. Their statement on changing the endings would fit quite well to that...

[Phoenix-Warden]

Hello guys, after a long time it's time for me to look in this thread and the BSN. Any news about the EC or that BW/EA are bankrupt?

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Phoenix-Warden wrote...

Hello guys, after a long time it's time for me to look in this thread and the BSN. Any news about the EC or that BW/EA are bankrupt?

Nein my friend...

[sagevallant]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Ramshakkle wrote...



Troll logic dictates that BW is obviously going to add this promise of not changing the endings to the already long list of ones broken.

Ah but if you read Professor XxYourmomxLstN1texX's thesis on trolology he argues quite well that trolls will on average say somthing true, as long as this truth is anoying to many people. Their statement on changing the endings would fit quite well to that...

But... but... if they change the ending, that could make the former lies into truthes. Right?

[BigglesFlysAgain]

sagevallant wrote...


But... but... if they change the ending, that could make the former lies into truthes. Right?

Lol I don't follow... There is nothing they have said about the EC yet that we can be sure is or is not true...

[sagevallant]

Phoenix-Warden wrote...

Hello guys, after a long time it's time for me to look in this thread and the BSN. Any news about the EC or that BW/EA are bankrupt?

40% of players bought From Ashes. EA declares "Great Justice". Not sure if that includes CE owners. Somehow this is a proof of the success of Day 1 DLC? That 40% of people bought a D1 DLC on the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF THE YEAR?

[Phoenix-Warden]

sagevallant wrote...

Phoenix-Warden wrote...

Hello guys, after a long time it's time for me to look in this thread and the BSN. Any news about the EC or that BW/EA are bankrupt?

40% of players bought From Ashes. EA declares "Great Justice". Not sure if that includes CE owners. Somehow this is a proof of the success of Day 1 DLC? That 40% of people bought a D1 DLC on the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF THE YEAR?

Ah yes, I read something like that. So in the future they will cut much more content from the game and sell it as DLC.

[Kyria Nyriese]

Good afternoon fellow line holders, how goes the line?

HUG ATTACKS where applicable

[Phoenix NL]

Phoenix-Warden wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

Phoenix-Warden wrote...

Hello guys, after a long time it's time for me to look in this thread and the BSN. Any news about the EC or that BW/EA are bankrupt?

40% of players bought From Ashes. EA declares "Great Justice". Not sure if that includes CE owners. Somehow this is a proof of the success of Day 1 DLC? That 40% of people bought a D1 DLC on the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF THE YEAR?

Ah yes, I read something like that. So in the future they will cut much more content from the game and sell it as DLC.

Remind me when I finally publish my book to sell only the first two chapters at full price and then charge for all subsequent chapters with an extra cost for the ending.

[Phoenix NL]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Good afternoon fellow line holders, how goes the line?

HUG ATTACKS where applicable

To quote Goodwood - HUG Blitzkrieg!

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Phoenix NL wrote...


Remind me when I finally publish my book to sell only the first two chapters at full price and then charge for all subsequent chapters with an extra cost for the ending.

Willdo...

You want a PM or post-its or somthing?

Of course, we would need to come to a profit sharing agreement...



Lol

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 12 mai 2012 - 05:31 .

[Laterali]

sagevallant wrote...

Phoenix-Warden wrote...

Hello guys, after a long time it's time for me to look in this thread and the BSN. Any news about the EC or that BW/EA are bankrupt?

40% of players bought From Ashes. EA declares "Great Justice". Not sure if that includes CE owners. Somehow this is a proof of the success of Day 1 DLC? That 40% of people bought a D1 DLC on the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF THE YEAR?

Well let's say that 400,000 people bought From Ashes. That's 4 millions dollars they made on something that didn't cost them extra to make, it was already made, they just cut it from the game and sold it as separate.

I'd say that's a pretty big success right there. 4 million dollars pure profit.

And that's only 40 percent of 1 million sales, last I checked it was closer to 2 million.

[g_bassi13]

sagevallant wrote...

Phoenix-Warden wrote...

Hello guys, after a long time it's time for me to look in this thread and the BSN. Any news about the EC or that BW/EA are bankrupt?

40% of players bought From Ashes. EA declares "Great Justice". Not sure if that includes CE owners. Somehow this is a proof of the success of Day 1 DLC? That 40% of people bought a D1 DLC on the MOST ANTICIPATED GAME OF THE YEAR?

For them that's 40% of people that handed over $10 for absolutely no extra work or investment on their own end. For them, that's a great success, and something they'd like to exploit again.

[Phoenix NL]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...


Remind me when I finally publish my book to sell only the first two chapters at full price and then charge for all subsequent chapters with an extra cost for the ending.

Willdo...
You want a PM or post-its or somthing?

Of course, we would need to come to a profit sharing agreement...

Lol

Lmao, I'll just keep your plane fueled up for you.

[Major Swift]

g_bassi13 wrote...

For them that's 40% of people that handed over $10 for absolutely no extra work or investment on their own end. For them, that's a great success, and something they'd like to exploit again.

its just freaking ridiculous, he's on the god damn disc why the hell should anyone pay $10 for him, blows the mind, then again im not a money hungry company like them so i don't think along those lines and never will
edit: "all that greed....... i don't understand how anyone could do that......and you know what, im glad i dont, it makes me feel human" (thanks for the quote Ashley, from when you actually had dialogue, obviously modified a part though lol)

Modifié par Major Swift, 12 mai 2012 - 05:45 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Phoenix NL wrote...



Lmao, I'll just keep your plane fueled up for you.

Don't worry about that, I have converted the engine to run on pure disappointment. Its very easy to find it in the parts I mostly fly at the moment.

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 12 mai 2012 - 05:36 .

[Lestatman]

Major Swift wrote...

its just freaking ridiculous, he's on the god damn disc why the hell should anyone pay $10 for him, blows the mind, then again im not a money hungry company like them so i don't think along those lines and never will

ditto ... the dark days of gaming is upon us.

[Phoenix NL]

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[g_bassi13]

Laterali wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...rojekt-red-ceo/

Article about Witcher 2, an interview with CDProjekt Red's CEO, and the last paragraph of the article he discusses the backlash of ME3. It's more a pitch for his own game but...

"what did you think about the very vocal fan reaction to the ending of Mass Effect 3?

RPGs are games you invest a lot of your time into. They
become part of your life for quite a while. During this time you highly
identify yourself with the character you play, so if suddenly, after
100+ of hours and few instalments of the series you find out that
whatever you did throughout this whole time, whatever choices you made,
the end is the same, well, I think that disappointment is
understandable. It clearly shows that gamers expect, that their choices
in the RPGs they play are really meaningful – and that’s what both the
Witcher and the Witcher 2 are about.
We actually went so far in Witcher 2 that,
depending on the player’s choice in Chapter One there are two totally
different versions of Chapter Two, two different locations and two
different storylines. To see both, you have to play the game twice. On
top of that the game has 16 different endings depending on gamers
choices throughout the whole game. There are decisions and there the
consequences and you see it from the beginning to the end of both
Witchers."

I know I myself keep talking about this without having played Witcher 2 yet myself, but this is why I instantly reject the notion that Bioware making branching storylines is asking for too much. How? Smaller developers without the funding of the biggest publisher in the industry have done it already.

CD Projekt gave the multiple endings promised, and 2 completely seperate storylines depending on how you decided you wanted it to go.

Bioware manages to fail not only in giving divergnet stories with seperate causes and missions, but it doesn't even let you approach the same stories and missions from a different angle (Like letting you side with Cerberus).

Hell there's not a single mission in the game that can't be played by every player in every playthrough they do. What the hell is that? It's linear as hell. It's something you find in a FPS, not a Western RPG. For them, the idea of programming something that it's possible a player cannot see is just crazy talk. The entire game was designed to look polished for a single Paragon playthrough. That's it. It's too bad if you wanted  the story to exist differently because of your galaxy altering decisions in the past.

It's like the guys who shortcutted ME3 were hoping that no one who played the Single player would try it more than once. Maybe that's why the ending is the way it is (speculation!). Or maybe they were genuinely hoping that no one would even care still, which is probably more sad.

[g_bassi13]

Major Swift wrote...

g_bassi13 wrote...

For them that's 40% of people that handed over $10 for absolutely no extra work or investment on their own end. For them, that's a great success, and something they'd like to exploit again.

its just freaking ridiculous, he's on the god damn disc why the hell should anyone pay $10 for him, blows the mind, then again im not a money hungry company like them so i don't think along those lines and never will
edit: "all that greed....... i don't understand how anyone could do that......and you know what, im glad i dont, it makes me feel human" (thanks for the quote Ashley, from when you actually had dialogue, obviously modified a part though lol)

Ashley dialogue DLC. Only $10 more.

[Zwei133]

I thought I would share this interesting facebook ad that was just displayed for me:

No Bad Endings!
EA/BioWare brings the most addictive game ever! Choose your own story, and make your army!
150,000 people played Age of Champions.

So... EA has created an ad that makes fun of themselves. I checked this Age of Champions thing out and it really is made by EA. I wonder if this is a good sign or bad sign.

[Laterali]

g_bassi13 wrote...

I know I myself keep talking about this without having played Witcher 2 yet myself, but this is why I instantly reject the notion that Bioware making branching storylines is asking for too much. How? Smaller developers without the funding of the biggest publisher in the industry have done it already.

CD Projekt gave the multiple endings promised, and 2 completely seperate storylines depending on how you decided you wanted it to go.

Bioware manages to fail not only in giving divergnet stories with seperate causes and missions, but it doesn't even let you approach the same stories and missions from a different angle (Like letting you side with Cerberus).

Hell there's not a single mission in the game that can't be played by every player in every playthrough they do. What the hell is that? It's linear as hell. It's something you find in a FPS, not a Western RPG. For them, the idea of programming something that it's possible a player cannot see is just crazy talk. The entire game was designed to look polished for a single Paragon playthrough. That's it. It's too bad if you wanted  the story to exist differently because of your galaxy altering decisions in the past.

It's like the guys who shortcutted ME3 were hoping that no one who played the Single player would try it more than once. Maybe that's why the ending is the way it is (speculation!). Or maybe they were genuinely hoping that no one would even care still, which is probably more sad.

I think their creativity reached its end. They've used the same plot for every single one of their games all the way back to Baldur's Gate with very little deviation from the path. The only difference is the backdrop. They have great character writers, but the people creating the main plot theme are one trick ponies.

http://rampantgames....2/bwcliches.png

Bioware's chart of plot cliches