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[DeinonSlayer]

Canned Bullets wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

I still can't comprehend what they were thinking when they wrote this ending.

Writer 1: There, the best endings that will satisfy Paragons, Renegades, and Neutrals

Writer 2: This is no good, sure the writing is good but how will we syphon money without forcing it all into one canon to make an MMO? 

Writer 1: You're right! Why don't we destroy all the Mass Relays and when the MMO comes out we can make $30 expansion packs off of "opening" up Mass Relays!

But even the set-up for an MMO fails. The endings are just different enough that Bioware would be forced to choose one as "canon." Are we playing in an MMO universe wholly populated by cyborgs, or not? The only common thread is that Shepard's crew is screwed, no matter what, and Shepard is either dead or left alive under circumstances where all they'd want to do is put a pistol to their temple and pull the trigger.

[BobTheAndroid]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

albertalad wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Yes, I understand scan and photos. You'll have to excuse me then - I was hoping to give you further information on what he posted and it all looks very real in fact more real than anything yet. If you check those mentioned fish ARE listed as a war asset, and are far and away the most expensive fish on Illium. Over 7000 credits but 6666 credits with the discount. All other fish are selling for $500 credits. I wondered why those fish were so expensive just as I wondered why there are TWO huge aquariums in Sheppard's quarters. It seemed to be the obvious place for those would have been for the entire crew. However, to me at least those aquariums always screamed at me to GET FISH! And the other part - I have always blown up the Collector base - this playthrough I'm gonna go with keeping that base.

I wonder what their excuse for the fish being a war asset is... Reaper controlling fish maybe? Joker controlling fish?

...And you're ****ting me, blowing up that base is a mistake...

...Moral interrogatory and pissing off TIM or adopting Turian babies with Garrus...

...So conflicted.

You're conflicted? I'm rushing to try and do ME2 again and this time around feed the damn fish - and keeping that base - hell that goes against my judgement. But I suppose its the end game that counts and having and learning Reaper tech developed by the Reapers through the Collectors has meaning I never suspected. Again our choices seem to come back and bite us in the butt. In any case according to the Prima Strategy Guide even brand new player will start with the premise THEY too blew up the base. If that's the case BW really set a trap for players big time. To tell the truth I've never kept that base - this time around I'll make a different choice and keep it - and the strategy giude clearly mentions that base. In any case I sure a heck got blowing up the base covered three or four times over. Guess it never hurts to have one with an intact base.

I WANTED some choices to bite me in the ass, especially the Collector base... but like this... All I've heard prior to this was the whole, if you kept it, you get a reaper brain and get to control husks and I was fine with not having that.

I'm going to need a save editor... No way in hell I can finish an ME2 run like that that quick.

Hi,
Could you tell me, why it is better to keep the Collector base?

[WarBaby2]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Just think of what this place will become three days from  now. I bet it will be... entertaining.

Yeah . . .

. . . So who wants to get the popcorn?

I bet it will be like: "Buhu, BioWare raped our innocence"... or something Lucaseque like that.

[XX55XX]

WarBaby2 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Just think of what this place will become three days from  now. I bet it will be... entertaining.

Yeah . . .

. . . So who wants to get the popcorn?

I bet it will be like: "Buhu, BioWare raped our innocence"... or something Lucaseque like that.

It's sad to see people so attached to works of fiction. I'm not happy about the ending, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I know that it's all entertainment - a way of passing the time when I have little else to do. 

[albertalad]

XX55XX wrote...

I wonder if people would have raised their pitchforks if there were no LIs in the game.

Hey, BW themselves put them there now adding gay opportunities to the mix - meaning we (me and BW) made a pact - they (BW) live up to their end and I would find the L1 of my choice among many. BW promised concusion to your L1 drama - BW promised that themselves. Now it is BW who broke their own promises IF the pointlessly send my L1 off somewhere to inbreeding land with incest so strongly suggesed for them is indeed twisted and sick in the extreme.

[BaronIveagh]

Aesieru wrote...


You seem to be misunderstanding things.

Guardian isn't a Reaper.

There is no ranking structure... they are each a nation. Harbinger is merely the first, Sovereign was merely the Vanguard.

No, but as Gaurdian states, Guardian is what controls the Reapers.  While Ship sized Reapers are 'each a nation' yhey're also slaved to the mass mind that Guardian controls.  Killing the larger reapers causes chaos in the one's under they're control, and, there are Reapers that control other reapers in this game.

[Aramintai]

WarBaby2 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Just think of what this place will become three days from  now. I bet it will be... entertaining.

Yeah . . .

. . . So who wants to get the popcorn?

I bet it will be like: "Buhu, BioWare raped our innocence"... or something Lucaseque like that.

More like they robbed us of Christmas because there's no Santa <_<

[Canned Bullets]

Yeah people will be rightfully calling for blood reparations. If Bioware wants to try and keep us content they better release free DLC for a better ending after this crap happens.

[recentio]

WarBaby2 wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Just think of what this place will become three days from  now. I bet it will be... entertaining.

Yeah . . .

. . . So who wants to get the popcorn?

I bet it will be like: "Buhu, BioWare raped our innocence"... or something Lucaseque like that.

 I love that "Lucasesque" is the term for crushing little fan hearts. I just dismiss the SW prequels outright. As I may have to do with ME3 ending if what is known turns out to be the whole truth and nothing but. Burned by SW:Ep.1 but definitely waiting before getting ME3... I want some togetherness at the end, consnarn it!

[Cobra's_back]

madhatterwriter wrote...

bduff4545 wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

madhatterwriter wrote...

I totally agree. I felt like I got hoodwinked! If they had said it right like your are guiding the character Shepard through this awesome story like Uncharted or Assassin creed, I would be perfectly fine right now with the endings because it is a Shepard I don't own if that make sense. Not mine. Under that, I think the endings are terrific! However, under my previous impression of a very choice-driven-I-choose-the-destiney Shepard, not okay and the endings are not so good in that perspective.

Anyways, I just don't like being lied to (yes, it is a lie because Casey said wildly divergent endings and that it was mine Shepard) and that is my main beef.

Well I think it was Mac Walters in an interview said that Uncharted gave him inspiration.  Guess most people read that as "whatever" but in reality I guess that should have been a red flag.

   I've played all the Uncharted's and they all have happy endings, but not this piece of ****

I guess Bioware is trying for an artsy film style?

It's not original. IT's Deus Ex mix in a Greek tragedy by marooning the Normandy. Tough luck Garrus and Tali. Makes me want to play ME2 again and have Tali die quick and easy.

[BaronIveagh]

recentio wrote...

 I love that "Lucasesque" is the term for crushing little fan hearts. I just dismiss the SW prequels outright. As I may have to do with ME3 ending if what is known turns out to be the whole truth and nothing but. Burned by SW:Ep.1 but definitely waiting before getting ME3... I want some togetherness at the end, consnarn it!

Actually, to keep dayone screaming down, Bioware has restricted posting so that new members cannot post.  How long the cool off is has varied with each revision, the last one I looked at was 30 days.

[XX55XX]

albertalad wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I wonder if people would have raised their pitchforks if there were no LIs in the game.

Hey, BW themselves put them there now adding gay opportunities to the mix - meaning we (me and BW) made a pact - they (BW) live up to their end and I would find the L1 of my choice among many. BW promised concusion to your L1 drama - BW promised that themselves. Now it is BW who broke their own promises IF the pointlessly send my L1 off somewhere to inbreeding land with incest so strongly suggesed for them is indeed twisted and sick in the extreme.

Almost nine years ago, thousands of US troops invaded Iraq. Some of them didn't come back, many of them dying in some godforsaken neighborhood in some dusty, foreign city riddled with booby traps, mines, and rebels. Did you think their loved ones were at their side?

It's a reflection of real life. People often die estranged from their loved ones. 

[Bionic Weapon]

BobTheAndroid wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

albertalad wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Yes, I understand scan and photos. You'll have to excuse me then - I was hoping to give you further information on what he posted and it all looks very real in fact more real than anything yet. If you check those mentioned fish ARE listed as a war asset, and are far and away the most expensive fish on Illium. Over 7000 credits but 6666 credits with the discount. All other fish are selling for $500 credits. I wondered why those fish were so expensive just as I wondered why there are TWO huge aquariums in Sheppard's quarters. It seemed to be the obvious place for those would have been for the entire crew. However, to me at least those aquariums always screamed at me to GET FISH! And the other part - I have always blown up the Collector base - this playthrough I'm gonna go with keeping that base.

I wonder what their excuse for the fish being a war asset is... Reaper controlling fish maybe? Joker controlling fish?

...And you're ****ting me, blowing up that base is a mistake...

...Moral interrogatory and pissing off TIM or adopting Turian babies with Garrus...

...So conflicted.

You're conflicted? I'm rushing to try and do ME2 again and this time around feed the damn fish - and keeping that base - hell that goes against my judgement. But I suppose its the end game that counts and having and learning Reaper tech developed by the Reapers through the Collectors has meaning I never suspected. Again our choices seem to come back and bite us in the butt. In any case according to the Prima Strategy Guide even brand new player will start with the premise THEY too blew up the base. If that's the case BW really set a trap for players big time. To tell the truth I've never kept that base - this time around I'll make a different choice and keep it - and the strategy giude clearly mentions that base. In any case I sure a heck got blowing up the base covered three or four times over. Guess it never hurts to have one with an intact base.

I WANTED some choices to bite me in the ass, especially the Collector base... but like this... All I've heard prior to this was the whole, if you kept it, you get a reaper brain and get to control husks and I was fine with not having that.

I'm going to need a save editor... No way in hell I can finish an ME2 run like that that quick.

Hi,
Could you tell me, why it is better to keep the Collector base?

Right? I destroyed the thing. No way I was going to let TIM go crazy with it. What does keeping it do for us?

Modifié par Bionic Weapon, 03 mars 2012 - 07:46 .

[Kyria Nyriese]

XX55XX wrote...

albertalad wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I wonder if people would have raised their pitchforks if there were no LIs in the game.

Hey, BW themselves put them there now adding gay opportunities to the mix - meaning we (me and BW) made a pact - they (BW) live up to their end and I would find the L1 of my choice among many. BW promised concusion to your L1 drama - BW promised that themselves. Now it is BW who broke their own promises IF the pointlessly send my L1 off somewhere to inbreeding land with incest so strongly suggesed for them is indeed twisted and sick in the extreme.

Almost nine years ago, thousands of US troops invaded Iraq. Some of them didn't come back, many of them dying in some godforsaken neighborhood in some dusty, foreign city riddled with booby traps, mines, and rebels. Did you think their loved ones were at their side?

It's a reflection of real life. People often die estranged from their loved ones. 

If I wanted real life, I'd look into mine, not play a game.  I play games to take my mind off of real life not to relive it.

[BaronIveagh]

XX55XX wrote...

Almost nine years ago, thousands of US troops invaded Iraq. Some of them didn't come back, many of them dying in some godforsaken neighborhood in some dusty, foreign city riddled with booby traps, mines, and rebels. Did you think their loved ones were at their side?

It's a reflection of real life. People often die estranged from their loved ones. 

And such an ending might be unpopular now becasue videogames are escapism and we might not want to be reminded of our friends dying in a war for oil?

[Huyna]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Everything I've seen suggests that there are inevitable losses throughout the game. You can save Thessia or Palaven, not both.

That is just plain awful.
I literally can not choose. And so, here we are, victims of mathematics© ambassador Londo Mollari, Babylon 5.

Modifié par Huyna, 03 mars 2012 - 07:48 .

[recentio]

albertalad wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I wonder if people would have raised their pitchforks if there were no LIs in the game.

Hey, BW themselves put them there now adding gay opportunities to the mix - meaning we (me and BW) made a pact - they (BW) live up to their end and I would find the L1 of my choice among many. BW promised concusion to your L1 drama - BW promised that themselves. Now it is BW who broke their own promises IF the pointlessly send my L1 off somewhere to inbreeding land with incest so strongly suggesed for them is indeed twisted and sick in the extreme.

^ THIS. Disgusting fate for the characters Shep loves most.

[Canned Bullets]

XX55XX wrote...

albertalad wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

I wonder if people would have raised their pitchforks if there were no LIs in the game.

Hey, BW themselves put them there now adding gay opportunities to the mix - meaning we (me and BW) made a pact - they (BW) live up to their end and I would find the L1 of my choice among many. BW promised concusion to your L1 drama - BW promised that themselves. Now it is BW who broke their own promises IF the pointlessly send my L1 off somewhere to inbreeding land with incest so strongly suggesed for them is indeed twisted and sick in the extreme.

Almost nine years ago, thousands of US troops invaded Iraq. Some of them didn't come back, many of them dying in some godforsaken neighborhood in some dusty, foreign city riddled with booby traps, mines, and rebels. Did you think their loved ones were at their side?

It's a reflection of real life. People often die estranged from their loved ones. 

Well guess what. Reality blows which is why people play video games. I've said this before but I'll say it again. This "ending" wouldn't be so bad if it was the player's choice to pick this sort of ending if they were a full Renegade or Neutral. 

[xtorma]

Aesieru wrote...

WarBaby2 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...
CD Project Red doesn't have much experience and they make very buggy releases close to being on par with the style that Obsidian or Bethesda has, though Bethesda takes the cake.

I'm not sure Project Red can do good gameplay, they haven't really just yet.

True, but they do high quality storytelling work... and they never give up on their games. If something like this discussion would have happened about the einding of the Witcher 2, they would have changed it via a huge patch.

Depends on who was backing them and investing in them and whether they felt it was a suitable investment.

It's my opinion that the witcher 2 is a pretty good game all around. Where me2 was just way to easy as a shooter, the witcher is much more difficult. I always wished they had more boss fights in me2. It's my opinion that the story in witcher2 was much more in depth than the story in me2. The witcher 2 gave you much more freedom in how you told yourself the story, than me2.

the setting in witcher is very dark , but true to the books. The world was full of racists , sure , but you were not forced to be one, and to be honest me2 was just as full of racist sterotypes, i mean look at ashley. The hair on my neck always stands up when someone proclaims they are not racist, right before they rag on another race. At least in the witcher they are honest with themselves about it.

I honestly think cd projekt red will end up being one of the premier story tellers in the market. Not that I don't think the story of the me trilogy was good, I just expected a little more from the company i had placed at #1.

[T-N-Z]

Can someone explain? So no matter what ending you choose, Relay Network gets destroyed/broken? Or it's just that in Destroy ending?

[BaronIveagh]

Huyna wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Everything I've seen suggests that there are inevitable losses throughout the game. You can save Thessia or Palaven, not both.

That is just plain awful.
I literally can not choose.

My understanding of it was that you could use the Krogans to save palavin while you save Thessia???

[Karrie788]

T-N-Z wrote...

Can someone explain? So no matter what ending you choose, Relay Network gets destroyed/broken? Or it's just that in Destroy ending?

Relays get destroyed in every ending.

[XX55XX]

BaronIveagh wrote...

XX55XX wrote...

Almost nine years ago, thousands of US troops invaded Iraq. Some of them didn't come back, many of them dying in some godforsaken neighborhood in some dusty, foreign city riddled with booby traps, mines, and rebels. Did you think their loved ones were at their side?

It's a reflection of real life. People often die estranged from their loved ones. 

And such an ending might be unpopular now becasue videogames are escapism and we might not want to be reminded of our friends dying in a war for oil?

Well, at least in ME3, people died for a greater cause than oil or natural resources - they died for the continued existence of their race. 

And estrangement will occur.

[Luxure]

I'm all in for a LotR ending. Many have been lost throughout the trilogy, lots of people lost their friends, people got departed from each other, but in the end Aragorn marries his elf chick, the Fellowship is no more, Gandalf and Frodo leave with the elves, Samwise is to finish the book Frodo left him. So I wouldn't mind some of the Normandy crew dying, as long as they get back to Earth and Shepard gets his elf chick... I mean asari.

Modifié par Luxure, 03 mars 2012 - 07:50 .