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Nharia1 wrote...

Its a Liaramancer thread... Speaking of which I've noticed alot more bashing of LI's recently... Like there was a Liara Indoc Theory, where Liara is the one Indoctrinated, not Shep... Or the fights between Ashleymancers and just about everyone else... then there's the stuff that happens with Talimancers.... and yeah.... The LI's are a really touchy subject, oddily enough, personally I would have thought that everyone could just get along and apriciate what everyone else likes... but no... :?

Does this happen only with chick LIs? Because so far Garrus girls (and why not guys too, take the bromance to the next level) have quite happily coexisted with Thanemancers, Kaidan lovers and everyone else. Then again, I tend to steer clear from the character appreciation forum.

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Atrocity wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Its a Liaramancer thread... Speaking of which I've noticed alot more bashing of LI's recently... Like there was a Liara Indoc Theory, where Liara is the one Indoctrinated, not Shep... Or the fights between Ashleymancers and just about everyone else... then there's the stuff that happens with Talimancers.... and yeah.... The LI's are a really touchy subject, oddily enough, personally I would have thought that everyone could just get along and apriciate what everyone else likes... but no... :?

Does this happen only with chick LIs? Because so far Garrus girls (and why not guys too, take the bromance to the next level) have quite happily coexisted with Thanemancers, Kaidan lovers and everyone else. Then again, I tend to steer clear from the character appreciation forum.

I've no clue to be honest... It's really annoying some times though... <_< I generally am just on the Liara thread so I don't deal with everything else.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Its a Liaramancer thread... Speaking of which I've noticed alot more bashing of LI's recently... Like there was a Liara Indoc Theory, where Liara is the one Indoctrinated, not Shep... Or the fights between Ashleymancers and just about everyone else... then there's the stuff that happens with Talimancers.... and yeah.... The LI's are a really touchy subject, oddily enough, personally I would have thought that everyone could just get along and apriciate what everyone else likes... but no... :?

People are just weird... But srsly... The romances are a little weird... Its not a progressing relationship, its pretty much just a one-nighter, 3 games in a row....

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Atrocity wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Its a Liaramancer thread... Speaking of which I've noticed alot more bashing of LI's recently... Like there was a Liara Indoc Theory, where Liara is the one Indoctrinated, not Shep... Or the fights between Ashleymancers and just about everyone else... then there's the stuff that happens with Talimancers.... and yeah.... The LI's are a really touchy subject, oddily enough, personally I would have thought that everyone could just get along and apriciate what everyone else likes... but no... :?

Does this happen only with chick LIs?

yes

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Tyion133 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Its a Liaramancer thread... Speaking of which I've noticed alot more bashing of LI's recently... Like there was a Liara Indoc Theory, where Liara is the one Indoctrinated, not Shep... Or the fights between Ashleymancers and just about everyone else... then there's the stuff that happens with Talimancers.... and yeah.... The LI's are a really touchy subject, oddily enough, personally I would have thought that everyone could just get along and apriciate what everyone else likes... but no... :?

People are just weird... But srsly... The romances are a little weird... Its not a progressing relationship, its pretty much just a one-nighter, 3 games in a row....

I disagree. Garrus and I have progressed. Then again, judging by what I've heard, it is the only ME2 relationship exception. Well, Garrus and Tali. All 3 ME romances are handled quite well, if one does not romance anyone in ME2, or so I've understood.

Then again I'd argue Tali and Garrus are ME romances too, like Kaidan/Ash and Liara are ME2 romances :whistle:

But I enjoyed watching how things progressed with Space Batman from the "reach and flexibility" incident of ME2 to the deep and caring thing it is in the end, and how it is in ME3. I nearly cried when Garrus told my Shep "I'm starting to see some wear and tear. Don't forget to come up for air every once in a while, and not just because everyone needs you. I need you" :crying:

He's just so damn caring thing throughout the entire game. 

F***. The whole dialogue before the final battle was so damn perfect, why did the ending have to ruin it all? It would have been so good to wake up in a hospital bed, mangled, hurt, but a winner, and to have Garrus be sitting right next to the bed, not necessarily even saying anything, maybe making a remark how glad he is Shepard acted according to his orders, even though it was insubordinating... :crying:

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http://social.biowar...ndex/12007150/1
This is the Liara Indoc Thread for any of you who care to take a look... How does he equate the fact that when an Asari's eyes go black to Indoc? It's always been mind melds, not *creepy eery space music a`la Twilight Zone) Indoctrination.

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Nharia1 wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/12007150/1
This is the Liara Indoc Thread for any of you who care to take a look... How does he equate the fact that when an Asari's eyes go black to Indoc? It's always been mind melds, not *creepy eery space music a`la Twilight Zone) Indoctrination.


Gotta love the way he shrugs off codex, because it does not support his thesis. 
"1: we already know that there is a massive disconnect between the codex and the in game information so as much as I don't want to i'll have to throw that out"

Yes, because that's the way proving a thesis works. If something doesn't fit, disregard it without a second thought.

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Nharia1 wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/12007150/1
This is the Liara Indoc Thread for any of you who care to take a look... How does he equate the fact that when an Asari's eyes go black to Indoc? It's always been mind melds, not *creepy eery space music a`la Twilight Zone) Indoctrination.

That's one crazy ass theory, lol. It's one stretch after another to make a point. I would put the odds of that being what the writers intended to be at zero. Not really intriguing, but still kind of funny. Mainly the black eyes bit.

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Atrocity wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/12007150/1
This is the Liara Indoc Thread for any of you who care to take a look... How does he equate the fact that when an Asari's eyes go black to Indoc? It's always been mind melds, not *creepy eery space music a`la Twilight Zone) Indoctrination.


Gotta love the way he shrugs off codex, because it does not support his thesis. 
"1: we already know that there is a massive disconnect between the codex and the in game information so as much as I don't want to i'll have to throw that out"

Yes, because that's the way proving a thesis works. If something doesn't fit, disregard it without a second thought.

... Isnt that what Bioware is doing? They're just hiding behind a wall of ''Artistic Integrity'' instead of just saying; ''Nope, you're wrong...''

And walk away...

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Atrocity wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/12007150/1
This is the Liara Indoc Thread for any of you who care to take a look... How does he equate the fact that when an Asari's eyes go black to Indoc? It's always been mind melds, not *creepy eery space music a`la Twilight Zone) Indoctrination.


Gotta love the way he shrugs off codex, because it does not support his thesis. 
"1: we already know that there is a massive disconnect between the codex and the in game information so as much as I don't want to i'll have to throw that out"

Yes, because that's the way proving a thesis works. If something doesn't fit, disregard it without a second thought.

Yeah... its sad really, he seemed to have 'worked' so 'hard' on his theory too, and yet he can't really defened his own theory... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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g_bassi13 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/12007150/1
This is the Liara Indoc Thread for any of you who care to take a look... How does he equate the fact that when an Asari's eyes go black to Indoc? It's always been mind melds, not *creepy eery space music a`la Twilight Zone) Indoctrination.

That's one crazy ass theory, lol. It's one stretch after another to make a point. I would put the odds of that being what the writers intended to be at zero. Not really intriguing, but still kind of funny. Mainly the black eyes bit.


Makers Breath that is a crazy theory.  Why can't Bioware just come out and say in a honest plain language whether or not IT true or not.

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Makers Breath that is a crazy theory.  Why can't Bioware just come out and say in a honest plain language whether or not IT true or not.

id say because they love all the speculations :lol:

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Makers Breath that is a crazy theory.  Why can't Bioware just come out and say in a honest plain language whether or not IT true or not.

id say because they love all the speculations :lol:


lmao that famous "S" word.

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Occam's Razor. That is all.

Goodnight.

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i still lol whenever i see that, think its a new fav word/combination of mine :lol:

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Goodwood wrote...

Occam's Razor. That is all.

Goodnight.

What did that even do? And goodnight? :unsure:

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Nharia1 wrote...

Its a Liaramancer thread... Speaking of which I've noticed alot more bashing of LI's recently... Like there was a Liara Indoc Theory, where Liara is the one Indoctrinated, not Shep... Or the fights between Ashleymancers and just about everyone else... then there's the stuff that happens with Talimancers.... and yeah.... The LI's are a really touchy subject, oddily enough, personally I would have thought that everyone could just get along and apriciate what everyone else likes... but no... :?

lol thats just beyond speculation as i can't even see how thats a theory! and yeah last night there was this thread i was looking at that the OP said Tali should be let go for ME2 characters to have some development, mainly Jack in this case/Jack was ditched to put Tali in ME3 or something like that and basically was a lot of LI bashing going on in there for all LI's

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"Now to continue, during the battle with EVA as ashley/kaidens helping liara to the shuttle she states that they need the data, and the moment she says that EVA burst forth from the destroyed shuttle almost as if on queue, then liara disappears from that scene as ash/kaiden pushes her away and instead of using her biotics to knock eva over to help ash/kaiden, she disappears completely and its left to shepard to take EVA down with a handful of shots."

oh come on, now this is getting ridiculous lol, so i can basically go through to any part of the game and pick something and spin it to be IT? (well LIT in this case though IT do this too sometimes) well what about my shep, he just stood there pointing his pistol saying "No!" while watching just like he did when it was suppose to be 4v1 against Mr. Lieutenant Bastard Space Ninja Ballerina.
if thats all i have to do then Hackett was indoctrinated because of the look he was giving me while picking dialogue options :P

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Major Swift wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Its a Liaramancer thread... Speaking of which I've noticed alot more bashing of LI's recently... Like there was a Liara Indoc Theory, where Liara is the one Indoctrinated, not Shep... Or the fights between Ashleymancers and just about everyone else... then there's the stuff that happens with Talimancers.... and yeah.... The LI's are a really touchy subject, oddily enough, personally I would have thought that everyone could just get along and apriciate what everyone else likes... but no... :?

lol thats just beyond speculation as i can't even see how thats a theory! and yeah last night there was this thread i was looking at that the OP said Tali should be let go for ME2 characters to have some development, mainly Jack in this case/Jack was ditched to put Tali in ME3 or something like that and basically was a lot of LI bashing going on in there for all LI's

Tali's always been important to the series... she's the one who basically get you to be a Spectre in ME1... You can't take that kind of person out of the game, just for some character, while awesome, who has a signifigant role elsewhere in the game. And plus how are you supposed to expand upon Jack? She's a teacher now.... She's changed, become more mature, and all that jazz. :?

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Major Swift wrote...

"Now to continue, during the battle with EVA as ashley/kaidens helping liara to the shuttle she states that they need the data, and the moment she says that EVA burst forth from the destroyed shuttle almost as if on queue, then liara disappears from that scene as ash/kaiden pushes her away and instead of using her biotics to knock eva over to help ash/kaiden, she disappears completely and its left to shepard to take EVA down with a handful of shots."

oh come on, now this is getting ridiculous lol, so i can basically go through to any part of the game and pick something and spin it to be IT? (well LIT in this case though IT do this too sometimes) well what about my shep, he just stood there pointing his pistol saying "No!" while watching just like he did when it was suppose to be 4v1 against Mr. Lieutenant Bastard Space Ninja Ballerina.
if thats all i have to do then Hackett was indoctrinated because of the look he was giving me while picking dialogue options :P

Bwahahahahahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *falls out of bed laughing, wakes up girlfriend, who looks at screen and starts to laugh as well*
Yes that's pretty much what you could do... Hell I could say Thane was Indoctrinated, because he's lived past the time he was supposed to die.... (Of course he isn't, but that's basically what the OP of the LIT is saying)

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Bwahahahahahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *falls out of bed laughing, wakes up girlfriend, who looks at screen and starts to laugh as well*
Yes that's pretty much what you could do... Hell I could say Thane was Indoctrinated, because he's lived past the time he was supposed to die.... (Of course he isn't, but that's basically what the OP of the LIT is saying)

lol:lol: oh you know it! i bet he was augmented with reaper tech! I'm surprised he didn't pull a saren on shep during his final moments as i was waiting intently for such a thing to occur, also Jack was indoctrinated because she was given a postion at an important place (Grissom Academy) Garrus is also an indoctrinated agent because he is feeding false reports and advice to the Turians, James is indoctrinated because he wants you to go back to Earth in the beginning and hears a humming noise during the game, basically all the characters are indoctrinated! what a twist! :P

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Major Swift wrote...

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Bwahahahahahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *falls out of bed laughing, wakes up girlfriend, who looks at screen and starts to laugh as well*
Yes that's pretty much what you could do... Hell I could say Thane was Indoctrinated, because he's lived past the time he was supposed to die.... (Of course he isn't, but that's basically what the OP of the LIT is saying)

lol:lol: oh you know it! i bet he was augmented with reaper tech! I'm surprised he didn't pull a saren on shep during his final moments as i was waiting intently for such a thing to occur, also Jack was indoctrinated because she was given a postion at an important place (Grissom Academy) Garrus is also an indoctrinated agent because he is feeding false reports and advice to the Turians, James is indoctrinated because he wants you to go back to Earth in the beginning and hears a humming noise during the game, basically all the characters are indoctrinated! what a twist! :P

Stop please..... my aching sides~! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *continues laughing*

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Nharia1 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...
Bwahahahahahahaha :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *falls out of bed laughing, wakes up girlfriend, who looks at screen and starts to laugh as well*
Yes that's pretty much what you could do... Hell I could say Thane was Indoctrinated, because he's lived past the time he was supposed to die.... (Of course he isn't, but that's basically what the OP of the LIT is saying)

lol:lol: oh you know it! i bet he was augmented with reaper tech! I'm surprised he didn't pull a saren on shep during his final moments as i was waiting intently for such a thing to occur, also Jack was indoctrinated because she was given a postion at an important place (Grissom Academy) Garrus is also an indoctrinated agent because he is feeding false reports and advice to the Turians, James is indoctrinated because he wants you to go back to Earth in the beginning and hears a humming noise during the game, basically all the characters are indoctrinated! what a twist! :P

Stop please..... my aching sides~! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *continues laughing*

lol, come on! i made it to page 5 of the new IT thread before i had to exit out :lol:

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Major Swift wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...
lol:lol: oh you know it! i bet he was augmented with reaper tech! I'm surprised he didn't pull a saren on shep during his final moments as i was waiting intently for such a thing to occur, also Jack was indoctrinated because she was given a postion at an important place (Grissom Academy) Garrus is also an indoctrinated agent because he is feeding false reports and advice to the Turians, James is indoctrinated because he wants you to go back to Earth in the beginning and hears a humming noise during the game, basically all the characters are indoctrinated! what a twist! :P

Stop please..... my aching sides~! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: *continues laughing*

lol, come on! i made it to page 5 of the new IT thread before i had to exit out :lol:

There's a new IT thread? :blink:

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Occam's Razor. That is all.

Goodnight.

What did that even do? And goodnight? :unsure:

The simplest answer is the most likely one. Basically saying that a theory like that where you need to continuosly grasp at straws is not what what you should be looking for as an explanation.

And goodnight is a common parting phrase use in specific social situations, most commonly when seeing a loved one or friend off to sleep.

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g_bassi13 wrote...
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 Magic Party Happy Time ™ 

i still lol whenever i see that, think its a new fav word/combination of mine :lol:

 
Needed to use it to make an otherwise angry sounding response seem lighter. Don't think it worked.