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[Major Swift]

lol BioWare to us after we saw the ending

[toffeetrooper]

G Kevin wrote...

Yeah, keeping those pages down. 

I worked on a paper about social issues called "Mass Effect 3, Consumer Rights, And You."

I wrote about 7 pages. I swear the introduction did not finish till page 3. Little did I know, that the assignment was only supposed to be 3 pages long. 

It's hard to explain over 100 hours in under 3 pages. Especially if you wanted to connect to the audience emotionally.

Good luck with the presentation.

as long as its 10+ pages there is no limit, 1 page each for  1+2. 2 pages  for the build up(16 different endings) 10 for the game, ? for the ending, ? for the fan backlsash. my heads swimming with ideas.

[TamiBx]

 I just finished a ME2 playthrough and that made me feel like I just saved the galaxy for real. It was so epic...why wasn't ME3 ending like that?? 

[G Kevin]

TamiBx wrote...

 I just finished a ME2 playthrough and that made me feel like I just saved the galaxy for real. It was so epic...why wasn't ME3 ending like that?? 

Artistic Integrity.

or
Space Magic. 

Modifié par G Kevin, 17 mai 2012 - 05:53 .

[Major Swift]

TamiBx wrote...

 I just finished a ME2 playthrough and that made me feel like I just saved the galaxy for real. It was so epic...why wasn't ME3 ending like that?? 

because, speculations for everyone! *uses thing from video he linked up above* "you just don't get it do you?"  but on a serious note i honestly have no idea who would approve an ending such as ME3 after proving they could do better with other games (ME2 like you said and DA:O) theres almost as much speculation for why this happened  this way as there is for IT lol
*returns to lurker-writing mode*

Modifié par Major Swift, 17 mai 2012 - 05:59 .

[TamiBx]

 Seriously! They made amazing games with more than amazing ending and then...they made ME3. 

You know what else annoys me besides all the potholes and lack of choices? The lack of a real good ending, where Shepard survives. Why give it to us in ME2 and take it away in ME3? I mean, I thought the whole point was accomplishing the impossible by working hard. I just learned from ME3 that no matter what I do, I will fail somehow...

[toffeetrooper]

i just realised i might have to play ME3 again for my presentation work........

[Tyion133]

TamiBx wrote...

 Seriously! They made amazing games with more than amazing ending and then...they made ME3. 

You know what else annoys me besides all the potholes and lack of choices? The lack of a real good ending, where Shepard survives. Why give it to us in ME2 and take it away in ME3? I mean, I thought the whole point was accomplishing the impossible by working hard. I just learned from ME3 that no matter what I do, I will fail somehow...

Well... They did kill Shep in the start of ME2, but that was well-written! Plus they brought him/her back, so no harm done... And I hate having to bring up how linear the game feels...
Also, would it hurt to have a hacking-minigame or 2 in the game?

[Tyion133]

toffeetrooper wrote...

i just realised i might have to play ME3 again for my presentation work........

Dont... Its not worth the agony...

[Major Swift]

TamiBx wrote...

 Seriously! They made amazing games with more than amazing ending and then...they made ME3. 

You know what else annoys me besides all the potholes and lack of choices? The lack of a real good ending, where Shepard survives. Why give it to us in ME2 and take it away in ME3? I mean, I thought the whole point was accomplishing the impossible by working hard. I just learned from ME3 that no matter what I do, I will fail somehow...

*comes back to thread again*
well some people would have you believe that "we all knew shepard wasn't going to live" ummm really? Odd because i figured my shep was always going to live if i did enough work. Half breaths do not count as "living" for me, also there isn't even a "reapers win" ending its all pretty ridiculous(though there is the green, worst possible ending you could choose option) and thats just a wonderful message you'd want to send to people if you had made ME3 right, no matter what you do you will fail.... if thats what it all comes down to should have changed that thing in ME1 to "many decisions lie ahead, none of them matter"  *sigh* what happened to happy/hopeful/uplifting?

Modifié par Major Swift, 17 mai 2012 - 06:16 .

[Major Swift]

toffeetrooper wrote...

i just realised i might have to play ME3 again for my presentation work........

just turn your brain off and try to remember what you see (how i got through my 4th time through) that or watch some videos on youtube that way its not you personally playing

[toffeetrooper]

Major Swift wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

i just realised i might have to play ME3 again for my presentation work........

just turn your brain off and try to remember what you see (how i got through my 4th time through) that or watch some videos on youtube that way its not you personally playing

i thought of youtube, but i was thinking of 1 page for the main plot peice and the follow on page for how i felt about it, so i figure i would have to play it again then jot down my raw thoughts(make suitable for public at later date) at the end of each piece.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Major Swift wrote...

*comes back to thread again*
well some people would have you believe that "we all knew shepard wasn't going to live" ummm really? Odd because i figured my shep was always going to live if i did enough work. Half breaths do not count as "living" for me, also there isn't even a "reapers win" ending its all pretty ridiculous(though there is the green, worst possible ending you could choose option) and thats just a wonderful message you'd want to send to people if you had made ME3 right, no matter what you do you will fail.... if thats what it all comes down to should have changed that thing in ME1 to "many decisions lie ahead, none of them matter"  *sigh* what happened to happy/hopeful/uplifting?

"we all knew shepard wasn't going to live" , Hah, I bet those same people would have said somthing like that if the harry potter books ended in a different way...

Their only argument seems to be that we don't like the ending becuase us poor fragile nerds can't take any more sadness in our pathetic lives...

If he had to die make it for a dam good reason I say, not becuase the hero always dies...  It can be a common storytelling device but it is not really grounded in reality, not all victories are by the skin of the teeth... Besides, "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" That aside, you "Either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villan" If there had been a choice like that It would be somthing worth debating, but no its all the same.

[Major Swift]

toffeetrooper wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

i just realised i might have to play ME3 again for my presentation work........

just turn your brain off and try to remember what you see (how i got through my 4th time through) that or watch some videos on youtube that way its not you personally playing

i thought of youtube, but i was thinking of 1 page for the main plot peice and the follow on page for how i felt about it, so i figure i would have to play it again then jot down my raw thoughts(make suitable for public at later date) at the end of each piece.

ahhh i see, yeah if your going for that kind of effect then your only option would be playing it

[sagevallant]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

*comes back to thread again*
well some people would have you believe that "we all knew shepard wasn't going to live" ummm really? Odd because i figured my shep was always going to live if i did enough work. Half breaths do not count as "living" for me, also there isn't even a "reapers win" ending its all pretty ridiculous(though there is the green, worst possible ending you could choose option) and thats just a wonderful message you'd want to send to people if you had made ME3 right, no matter what you do you will fail.... if thats what it all comes down to should have changed that thing in ME1 to "many decisions lie ahead, none of them matter"  *sigh* what happened to happy/hopeful/uplifting?

"we all knew shepard wasn't going to live" , Hah, I bet those same people would have said somthing like that if the harry potter books ended in a different way...

Their only argument seems to be that we don't like the ending becuase us poor fragile nerds can't take any more sadness in our pathetic lives...

If he had to die make it for a dam good reason I say, not becuase the hero always dies...  It can be a common storytelling device but it is not really grounded in reality, not all victories are by the skin of the teeth... Besides, "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country" That aside, you "Either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villan" If there had been a choice like that It would be somthing worth debating, but no its all the same.

I am firm in my conviction that the story would've been better if Shep died on Thessia. Creates a ton of gameplay problems for the grand finale, but I'm talking strictly story. Could there BE a darker hour than Shep dying without stopping the Reapers? 

[BigglesFlysAgain]

sagevallant wrote...



I am firm in my conviction that the story would've been better if Shep died on Thessia. Creates a ton of gameplay problems for the grand finale, but I'm talking strictly story. Could there BE a darker hour than Shep dying without stopping the Reapers? 

In fact... we could easily make me3 non canonical... lets all go and play me2 and get the everyone dies ending, so we can't play me3!

[Tyion133]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

sagevallant wrote...



I am firm in my conviction that the story would've been better if Shep died on Thessia. Creates a ton of gameplay problems for the grand finale, but I'm talking strictly story. Could there BE a darker hour than Shep dying without stopping the Reapers? 

In fact... we could easily make me3 non canonical... lets all go and play me2 and get the everyone dies ending, so we can't play me3!

Always wondered about what would happen in ME3 if you did that...

[sagevallant]

Tyion133 wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

sagevallant wrote...



I am firm in my conviction that the story would've been better if Shep died on Thessia. Creates a ton of gameplay problems for the grand finale, but I'm talking strictly story. Could there BE a darker hour than Shep dying without stopping the Reapers? 

In fact... we could easily make me3 non canonical... lets all go and play me2 and get the everyone dies ending, so we can't play me3!

Always wondered about what would happen in ME3 if you did that...

You can't import.  

I always thought it should start as normal, with Joker in place of Shep... right up until the defense council dies. Joker dies too, game over, the end. Or maybe after sliding down the building...

[Major Swift]

if we got that ME2 ending then Joker has to stop the Reapes all by his onesies, savy

[Major Swift]

lol this made me think of BioWare (instead of Dean just insert BioWare of course )

[Tyion133]

sagevallant wrote...

You can't import.  

I always thought it should start as normal, with Joker in place of Shep... right up until the defense council dies. Joker dies too, game over, the end. Or maybe after sliding down the building...

Srsly, you cant import?
That's just lame... They could have at least made a scene where joker or your LI speaks with somebody, then comes the reapers and everyone dies...

[Major Swift]

Tyion133 wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

You can't import.  

I always thought it should start as normal, with Joker in place of Shep... right up until the defense council dies. Joker dies too, game over, the end. Or maybe after sliding down the building...

Srsly, you cant import?
That's just lame... They could have at least made a scene where joker or your LI speaks with somebody, then comes the reapers and everyone dies...

*gasp* were you expecting extra effort like that to be put in?   but yeah, you can't import

[sagevallant]

Tyion133 wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

You can't import.  

I always thought it should start as normal, with Joker in place of Shep... right up until the defense council dies. Joker dies too, game over, the end. Or maybe after sliding down the building...

Srsly, you cant import?
That's just lame... They could have at least made a scene where joker or your LI speaks with somebody, then comes the reapers and everyone dies...

They couldn't even slap a proper ending on the main game, and you think they had the time to put that in? 

[Tyion133]

Major Swift wrote...

Tyion133 wrote...

sagevallant wrote...

You can't import.  

I always thought it should start as normal, with Joker in place of Shep... right up until the defense council dies. Joker dies too, game over, the end. Or maybe after sliding down the building...

Srsly, you cant import?
That's just lame... They could have at least made a scene where joker or your LI speaks with somebody, then comes the reapers and everyone dies...

*gasp* were you expecting extra effort like that to be put in?   but yeah, you can't import

Nope... Getting really annoyed with Bioware though...
Anyone up for building a longboat and rowing to Canada, just to show them what we're made of?

Modifié par Tyion133, 17 mai 2012 - 07:07 .

[Tyion133]

sagevallant wrote...
They couldn't even slap a proper ending on the main game, and you think they had the time to put that in? 

I was hoping they had done something like that... But im really starting to doubt their ability to write a good story...