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[Dj14365]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

TamiBx wrote...
Where is he trying to go with this...?

So they can work out what % of people will be disappointed when it turns out not to be true...

I don't really give a rats ass how it gets fixed...as long as it actually fixes it.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Astralify wrote...


Yep, that's probably the case...

I briefly wondered why it matters just asking the few hudred people on HTL, then I realised they would want to know what the HC would think, because they are the ones most likely to cause a "fuss" if the EC is bad...

[Kyria Nyriese]

Dj14365 wrote...
I don't really give a rats ass how it gets fixed...as long as it actually fixes it.

^^^ This... At this point I just want to see it fixed, if they need to go hokey and hit the IT, t hen so be it.  As long as it's freaking fixed.

[Astralify]

Darth Suetam wrote...


The only thing that I wish is that BW only asked this kind of questions if they are at least a little bit willing to concede to a new ending, and not just an explanation. If they are going with the "explanation", and something that will just show what happened to the characters after the dreadful ending, they shouldn't throw this kind of question around. It gives fans hope, just to be crushed right around the corner. If it's already decided that "nope, we are just giving some explanation, but sticking to our ending", they should not allow their employees to say things like that to the fans.

So, giving them the benefit of the doubt, they may be thinking about something bigger than just an "explanation".

I think Bioware have no fcuking idea what they're doing anymore...

[Major Swift]

Astralify wrote...

More interesting events form the line:

Chis asked us how many of us believe in the Indoctrination Theory 

No, I don't believe in it, in order to believe in it I would have to accept that every little thing in the game is some clue to indoctrination and I can't do that, its gotten ridiculous with some things lately that are "evidence" of IT, I would like anything except IT (sorry! Don't rock me to death etc! lol)

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Major Swift wrote...


No, I don't believe in it, in order to believe in it I would have to accept that every little thing in the game is some clue to indoctrination and I can't do that, its gotten ridiculous with some things lately that are "evidence" of IT, I would like anything except IT (sorry! Don't rock me to death etc! lol)

No I don't think there are any bioware fans in the Iranian goverment so you should be ok...

[TamiBx]

Major Swift wrote...

Astralify wrote...

More interesting events form the line:

Chis asked us how many of us believe in the Indoctrination Theory 

No, I don't believe in it, in order to believe in it I would have to accept that every little thing in the game is some clue to indoctrination and I can't do that, its gotten ridiculous with some things lately that are "evidence" of IT, I would like anything except IT (sorry! Don't rock me to death etc! lol)

I don't care; as long as my Shepard has an option to survive and the crew isn't stuck in some random planet forever, I'm fine with it. If IT is what takes for that to happen, so be it. 

[Jere85]

Mmmh, as we havent really read any news lately, this is quite big , its nice to know they are at least wondering about us fans

[Dj14365]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...
I don't really give a rats ass how it gets fixed...as long as it actually fixes it.

^^^ This... At this point I just want to see it fixed, if they need to go hokey and hit the IT, t hen so be it.  As long as it's freaking fixed.

I could live with confirmation that it will be fixed. Something concrete, a release date, trailer, general description from an employee that knows what's going on.

Please BW give us anything. 

[Dj14365]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Major Swift wrote...
No, I don't believe in it, in order to believe in it I would have to accept that every little thing in the game is some clue to indoctrination and I can't do that, its gotten ridiculous with some things lately that are "evidence" of IT, I would like anything except IT (sorry! Don't rock me to death etc! lol)

No I don't think there are any bioware fans in the Iranian goverment so you should be ok...

Don't be so sure. 

[Astralify]

Major Swift wrote...

Astralify wrote...

More interesting events form the line:

Chis asked us how many of us believe in the Indoctrination Theory 

No, I don't believe in it, in order to believe in it I would have to accept that every little thing in the game is some clue to indoctrination and I can't do that, its gotten ridiculous with some things lately that are "evidence" of IT, I would like anything except IT (sorry! Don't rock me to death etc! lol)

Well i thought a lot about it and I think that the ONLY way to save the ending (and make it epic) is with IT. There are too many plotholes and inconsistencies in the ending for them to try to explain them. And trust me no one will allow the current ending to be deleted or replaced (like many of us want) with something else in an already released product. It just won't happen. And there aren't many possibilities for fixing it.

Modifié par Astralify, 23 mai 2012 - 12:03 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Dj14365 wrote...


I could live with confirmation that it will be fixed. Something concrete, a release date, trailer, general description from an employee that knows what's going on.

Please BW give us anything. 

Well bioware obviously think they are "fixing" the ending by doing whatever they are doing, but stating it outright is not very wise, especialy when peoples idea of what a fix constitutes varies a lot

[Major Swift]

Plus I don't think it'd be good to use something that has a huge plothole involved with it right off the bat; the prothean VI can clearly tell your not indoctrinated as he's all fine until Mr. Lieutenant Bastard Space Ninja Ballerina shows up and sets off the indoctrinated presence thing, that's just my opinion anyway, I use to "like" IT but recent stuff killed it for me, obviously lol

Edit: IT is possible if it all starts right there and then at the beam, but some stuff used to support it is from way before then, everything IT has from the beam and on is solid, save for a few things, but it was stuff I liked/could support lol

Modifié par Major Swift, 23 mai 2012 - 12:17 .

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Astralify wrote...


Well i thought a lot about it and I think that the ONLY way to save the ending (and make it epic) is with IT. There are too many plotholes and inconsistencies in the ending for them to try to explain them. And trust me no one will allow the current ending to be deleted or replaced (like many of us want) with something else in an already released product. It just won't happen. And there aren't many possibilities for fixing it.

They are not unfixable (I am not saying the fixes would be pretty but they exist), Where did squad go? Ran back to ship, and in one line of diologue. Where did Normandy go? Ordered to Escape. How did andereson get ahead? He just did... Rinse repeat ect..

What happens post ending?

Dull naration and epilogue

Squadie: Oh its a shame the commander did not live to see his sacrafice come to fruition, now we are all half cyborg we can do cool ****, 

Joker: Yeah I can now download porn directly to my brain!

Or

Squadie: Hey shepard your alive! *fistbump in space*

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 23 mai 2012 - 12:10 .

[TamiBx]

Astralify wrote...


Well i thought a lot about it and I think that the ONLY way to save the ending (and make it epic) is with IT. There are too many plotholes and inconsistencies in the ending for them to try to explain them. And trust me no one will allow the current ending to be deleted or replaced (like many of us want) with something else in an already released product. It just won't happen. And there aren't many possibilities for fixing it.

I feel the same way. They can't just explain a lot of things because they go against the rest of the game (such as many mass relay explosions not destroying the entire galaxy) so the best (and easiest) wayt to fix it would be IT. Sure, a lot of things might be stretching, but most of it isn't. 

I actually never understood why we got the Synthesis and Control choice. I mean, wasn't it obvious that we had to destroy them? Or else we should've gotten the option to ally with TIM or Saren...just saying 

edit: wasn't the Prothean VI damaged? Also, wasn't the whole IT about either being completely indoctrinated or not? So technically, Shepard isn't completely indoctrinated, so the VI can't detect it. 


Wait a second. Why wasn't the Prothean VI taken to the Crucible? What happened to it after Kai Leng's death? 

Modifié par TamiBx, 23 mai 2012 - 12:14 .

[Kyria Nyriese]

TamiBx wrote...
I feel the same way. They can't just explain a lot of things because they go against the rest of the game (such as many mass relay explosions not destroying the entire galaxy) so the best (and easiest) wayt to fix it would be IT. Sure, a lot of things might be stretching, but most of it isn't. 

I actually never understood why we got the Synthesis and Control choice. I mean, wasn't it obvious that we had to destroy them? Or else we should've gotten the option to ally with TIM or Saren...just saying 

Pretty much I understand this, I don't disagree with the IT, however, I do understand that it opens up it's own host of plot holes.  However, I can overlook those better than I can the current ones as they aren't as HUGE as the current ones are.

[Dj14365]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...
I could live with confirmation that it will be fixed. Something concrete, a release date, trailer, general description from an employee that knows what's going on.

Please BW give us anything. 

Well bioware obviously think they are "fixing" the ending by doing whatever they are doing, but stating it outright is not very wise, especialy when peoples idea of what a fix constitutes varies a lot

I guess what I'm saying is they should just let us know that they're actually doing something that they think will fix it. As rediculous as is sounds for all I know they're sitting around a campfire playing guitar and getting stoned.

I think (as much as I don't like to admit it) I still trust in BW to get this right. 

Others aren't so trusting/understanding, so I get what youre saying about them not wanting to reveal much. That doesn't mean I like the silence we've been getting.

Modifié par Dj14365, 23 mai 2012 - 12:17 .

[Kyria Nyriese]

Dj14365 wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Dj14365 wrote...
I could live with confirmation that it will be fixed. Something concrete, a release date, trailer, general description from an employee that knows what's going on.

Please BW give us anything. 

Well bioware obviously think they are "fixing" the ending by doing whatever they are doing, but stating it outright is not very wise, especialy when peoples idea of what a fix constitutes varies a lot

I guess what I'm saying is let us know that they're actually doing something that they think will fix it. As rediculous as is sounds for all I know they're sitting around a campfire playing guitar and getting stoned.

I think (as much as I don't like to admit it) I still trust in BW to get this right. 

Others aren't so trusting/understanding, so I get what youre saying about them not wanting to reveal much. That doesn't mean I like the silence we've been getting.

Well that's kind of the thing, they have said pretty much that they won't be 'fixing' it at least not in the way we think.  They are 'expanding the ending to give more clarity and closure' - paraphrase.  That right there hints that we aren't going to be happy with the results.

[TamiBx]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Well that's kind of the thing, they have said pretty much that they won't be 'fixing' it at least not in the way we think.  They are 'expanding the ending to give more clarity and closure' - paraphrase.  That right there hints that we aren't going to be happy with the results.

That can imply IT, for all we know...because it won't be changing; it will be just expanding and explaining...:innocent:


Seriously though: why can't Shepard survive in any other ending besides Destroy? The explosion was intense, so Shepard should've died...
edit: now that I realize...couldn't Shepard just take a shot from far away instead of walking towards it? 

Modifié par TamiBx, 23 mai 2012 - 12:21 .

[Dj14365]

I think this is the longest we've been on topic for about two months.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Dj14365 wrote...


I guess what I'm saying is they should just let us know that they're actually doing something that they think will fix it. As rediculous as is sounds for all I know they're sitting around a campfire playing guitar and getting stoned.

I think (as much as I don't like to admit it) I still trust in BW to get this right. 

Others aren't so trusting/understanding, so I get what youre saying about them not wanting to reveal much. That doesn't mean I like the silence we've been getting.

C-P basicly said that in the last HTL poll he did,

[Kyria Nyriese]

TamiBx wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...
Well that's kind of the thing, they have said pretty much that they won't be 'fixing' it at least not in the way we think.  They are 'expanding the ending to give more clarity and closure' - paraphrase.  That right there hints that we aren't going to be happy with the results.

That can imply IT, for all we know...because it won't be changing; it will be just expanding and explaining...:innocent:

Seriously though: why can't Shepard survive in any other ending besides Destroy? The explosion was intense, so Shepard should've died...

I agree with you, however, I think that is all the info we're getting from Bioware until the EC is released sometime in the next 4 months... and really I wouldn't expect it before the end of June, since summer doesn't start until the 20th of  June.  So we will see what happens.

I want to believe that everything is going to turn out alright, but until it comes out we will not know for sure.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

TamiBx wrote...


edit: now that I realize...couldn't Shepard just take a shot from far away instead of walking towards it? 

TBH he was probably expecting the explosion to kill everyone in thousands of Km, a few metres should have not have made a significant difference.

Maybe he was worried his gun would run out of ammo (I know!) or somthing, so he wanted to make sure he hit the reaper off button correctly

[Dj14365]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...
C-P basicly said that in the last HTL poll he did,

Which one was that? It's been a crazy week and everything is kind of a blur.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Dj14365 wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...
C-P basicly said that in the last HTL poll he did,

Which one was that? It's been a crazy week and everything is kind of a blur.

"Now I hope that the Extended Cut will make things right with you and us.
It will answer your questions, it will make you happy, it will create goodwill and all the happy things that I think both sides want. I also know that likely will not happen for 100% of everyone with concerns over
the ending. We'll do the best we can, but some people may not like it
no matter what it is.

Again, I cannot go into details about what the EC will or will not have,contacts, dates, etc, but I am wondering what you ME fans think will happen next. Please use the poll and feel free to answer in detail as well."

Linky to OP http://www.holdtheli...tended-cut.1826 ' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'> http://www.holdtheli...tended-cut.1826

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 23 mai 2012 - 12:32 .