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#100826
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Nharia1 wrote...

toffeetrooper wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

*leans back in throne* Hm..... :mellow: Maybe... You might want to check with Atrocity about the bodies though, she might need them for her expirments...


but fred(pet thresher maw) needs feeding if i am to make him big enough to take down a sovereign class reaper......

Well just feed him all those Pyjaks that keep showing up here... They're not needed. ^_^


by your comand......

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ah well its 2.48 in my neck of the woods, time for some sleep.

*give fred his reaper chew toy and heads of to bed*

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Oh good lord,MajesticKill drank the Koolaid. How can you like this? It's an outrage!! 1000 + hours of building this character up only to have no choice but to see him / her end like that? Not to be crass but we have a common dislike of this travisty that they are calling "artistic view" to funnel our choice's down to "What's you favorite color, and BTW you HAVE to die." It's an insult to those of us who have, up to now, always known that we could securly lay out our hard earned money on a title from this company, and actually get our moneys worth even without any extra DLC. On top of everything else, linking the single player mode so that you HAVE to earn achevements in the multi-player mode to get the readyness factor up, Well that was just plain mean. I for one don't care much for multi-player games, that's not why I played this franchise. I'm sorry but to come out and say you actually LIKED the endings as they are, shows a complete lack of good taste. But that's just my opinion. From what i've been reading BW / EA has already lost hundreds of fans because of this "ENDINGS ISSUE", and if they don't respond with a better answer than "extended scenes" They will potentially lose thousands more. BW / EA gave us hardcore fans a real slap in the face and I honestly don't think they're doing enough to fix it.

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Jere85 wrote...

Welcome to the line Macro dude ;)



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Macro Dude wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Welcome to the line Macro dude ;)



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I feel bad for you, seems you have reccently completed the "game", you have had to condense months of speculation, anger and biowares "responses" into a very small window of time...

#100831
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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

So I imagine you have completed the game fairly recently? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


No I finished the game quite awhile ago, but I only reciently discovered these forums. I figure MY opinion is as good as anyone elses, and I AM a huge fan of the sci-fi and fantasy generas. So why not come out with all these awsome, like minded folks, who seem as outraged as I am at what the writers did to MY character after years of play from back when our protagonist was still just a rookie spector, right up to when he / she goes into that final battle and has a few words with just about every npc she cares about that's left alive at that point. Then as has been stated by a great majority of us, the game suddenly takes us to "What's your favorite color, and BTW you HAVE to die." Honestly, there's no better way to put it than, THAT REALLY SUCKS!!!"


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Macro Dude wrote...

Oh good lord,MajesticKill drank the Koolaid. How can you like this? It's an outrage!! 1000 + hours of building this character up only to have no choice but to see him / her end like that? Not to be crass but we have a common dislike of this travisty that they are calling "artistic view" to funnel our choice's down to "What's you favorite color, and BTW you HAVE to die." It's an insult to those of us who have, up to now, always known that we could securly lay out our hard earned money on a title from this company, and actually get our moneys worth even without any extra DLC. On top of everything else, linking the single player mode so that you HAVE to earn achevements in the multi-player mode to get the readyness factor up, Well that was just plain mean. I for one don't care much for multi-player games, that's not why I played this franchise. I'm sorry but to come out and say you actually LIKED the endings as they are, shows a complete lack of good taste. But that's just my opinion. From what i've been reading BW / EA has already lost hundreds of fans because of this "ENDINGS ISSUE", and if they don't respond with a better answer than "extended scenes" They will potentially lose thousands more. BW / EA gave us hardcore fans a real slap in the face and I honestly don't think they're doing enough to fix it.

To be fair to the guy, he's certainly allowed to like it. 

I thought the whole game was quite poorly made, and just rushed out, but it doesn't mean that I think people can't enjoy it at all or anything.

If a person is just being a blind fanboy, then it's right to laugh at and talk back at  them, but you can't determine that after one post, lol.

Though because I thought that the game, and especially the ending, were poor, I hope that people talk back to Bioware and stop giving them their money, if they're unwilling to do anything to fix it.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 26 mai 2012 - 04:05 .


#100833
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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Macro Dude wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Welcome to the line Macro dude ;)



Now and forever. HOLD THE LINE, AND PASS THE AMMO!



I feel bad for you, seems you have reccently completed the "game", you have had to condense months of speculation, anger and biowares "responses" into a very small window of time...


Biggles? Oh yeah you are the clown that everyone on this forum wants to feed to a thresher maw. You sir a what we folks who were actually born with a working brain ih our heads, are a patronizing joke, who clearly thinks bad taste is en, vogue. Well, seems you also drnk the Koolaid buddy.

You probably think we are all a buch of rabbel rousing trouble makers too, don't you? Our statements didn't devalue this franchise, The endings to this game pretty much did that all by themselves without our help.

Biggles pal, you must have a real love of Greek tragedies, because in the end that's what we have been given. Understand that there are only a small minority that actually LIKE this kind of ending. most of us clearly hate it and that, you patronizing moron, is what this forum is all about.

Now I could continue to point out what an idiot you are, and continue to make you look stupid for insulting my inteligence, but thankfully you have managed to do that without my help

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So today started LOTRO's Spring Festival, so between cleaning the house and doing yard work I've been playing the new festival quests. Then about 10 minutes ago it hit me, I'm spending all this time running around a maze looking for mugs of ale, racing a horse around a track, and stomping on shrews so I can get a couple of horses and some cosmetic clothes that are worse than what I currently have.....


Macro Dude wrote...
Biggles? Oh yeah you are the clown that
everyone on this forum wants to feed to a thresher maw. You sir a what
we folks who were actually born with a working brain ih our heads, are a
patronizing joke, who clearly thinks bad taste is en, vogue. Well,
seems you also drnk the Koolaid buddy.

You probably think we are
all a buch of rabbel rousing trouble makers too, don't you? Our
statements didn't devalue this franchise, The endings to this game
pretty much did that all by themselves without our help.

Biggles
pal, you must have a real love of Greek tragedies, because in the end
that's what we have been given. Understand that there are only a small
minority that actually LIKE this kind of ending. most of us clearly hate
it and that, you patronizing moron, is what this forum is all about.

Now
I could continue to point out what an idiot you are, and continue to
make you look stupid for insulting my inteligence, but thankfully you
have managed to do that without my help


way to completely misconstrue his statement and insult him for no reason... If you're going to be hostile this isn't the place for you.

Modifié par Laterali, 26 mai 2012 - 04:09 .


#100835
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g_bassi13 wrote...

Macro Dude wrote...

Oh good lord,MajesticKill drank the Koolaid. How can you like this? It's an outrage!! 1000 + hours of building this character up only to have no choice but to see him / her end like that? Not to be crass but we have a common dislike of this travisty that they are calling "artistic view" to funnel our choice's down to "What's you favorite color, and BTW you HAVE to die." It's an insult to those of us who have, up to now, always known that we could securly lay out our hard earned money on a title from this company, and actually get our moneys worth even without any extra DLC. On top of everything else, linking the single player mode so that you HAVE to earn achevements in the multi-player mode to get the readyness factor up, Well that was just plain mean. I for one don't care much for multi-player games, that's not why I played this franchise. I'm sorry but to come out and say you actually LIKED the endings as they are, shows a complete lack of good taste. But that's just my opinion. From what i've been reading BW / EA has already lost hundreds of fans because of this "ENDINGS ISSUE", and if they don't respond with a better answer than "extended scenes" They will potentially lose thousands more. BW / EA gave us hardcore fans a real slap in the face and I honestly don't think they're doing enough to fix it.

To be fair to the guy, he's certainly allowed to like it. 

I thought the whole game was quite poorly made, and just rushed out, but it doesn't mean that I think people can't enjoy it at all or anything.

If a person is just being a blind fanboy, then it's right to laugh at and talk back at  them, but you can't determine that after one post, lol.

Though because I thought that the game, and especially the ending, were poor, I hope that people talk back to Bioware and stop giving them their money, if they're unwilling to do anything to fix it.


Well I supose. Like the saying goes "One mans garbage is onother mans treasure".

Now and forever, HOLD THE LINE, AND PASS THE AMMO!

I have to go on to say, good for him. seriously for those folks out there that really did like the way the game ends it was money well spent, and I AM truly happy for them. I also hope that he, and others like him, understand our position and why the public outcry. I personally have loved every title I have ever played from BW / EA, from start to finish, untill the final 10 minutes of ME3. In the end, it's just a game, but it's still a pretty bitter pill to swallow.

Modifié par Macro Dude, 26 mai 2012 - 06:37 .


#100836
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Been buzzing around youtube lately, and it's amazing how many reaction videos there are out there to ME3's ending, and how they're pretty much all the same; catagorically 'I hate/really dislike the ending'.

And other videos filled with people who disliked the ending.

Heck, I put on my Retake T-shirt and went to a shopping mall to shop, and was stopped by no less than 20 people, random strangers who agreed. Staff members in Canadian Tire were also aware of the Retake movement, and how everyone was royally upset (not their word, but I can't cuss here ;) ) about the end of the game...I overheard that.

Yet EA and Bioware and the handful of people who liked the ending still try to say we're the minority.

Again...when a new game drops to 29.83 within its first month of release, it is not a minority of people that are disatisfied.

#100837
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Macro Dude wrote...


Biggles? Oh yeah you are the clown that everyone on this forum wants to feed to a thresher maw. You sir a what we folks who were actually born with a working brain ih our heads, are a patronizing joke, who clearly thinks bad taste is en, vogue. Well, seems you also drnk the Koolaid buddy.

You probably think we are all a buch of rabbel rousing trouble makers too, don't you? Our statements didn't devalue this franchise, The endings to this game pretty much did that all by themselves without our help.

Biggles pal, you must have a real love of Greek tragedies, because in the end that's what we have been given. Understand that there are only a small minority that actually LIKE this kind of ending. most of us clearly hate it and that, you patronizing moron, is what this forum is all about.

Now I could continue to point out what an idiot you are, and continue to make you look stupid for insulting my inteligence, but thankfully you have managed to do that without my help


Dude, we're not the militant wing. We're the hash-smoking protesters with picket signs. We do not feed the trolls. We do not seek a mega-happy ending to crush the souls of people who may potentially have actually liked the ending for some inexplicable reason. We do not abuse the caps lock, nor bold the text. And we do not harass Biggles, trolls, or anyone else. We are not (all) here to complain about a sad ending, just an incomplete one.

We are here to talk about the things we didn't like about the game, and why. We are here to talk about how the promises made by Bioware, of our choices mattering and of what the series means to us. We are not here to hate. If it were hate that drove us to the Line, we would've just abandoned it and played other games by other devs and publishers. Because that would be easier.

We have been here for thousands of posts, thousands of pages. Biggles among us, and trust me he does not like the koolaid. So, please, I think I speak for everyone when I say.... don't start drama. Just fall in line on the Line.

#100838
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Laterali wrote...

So today started LOTRO's Spring Festival, so between cleaning the house and doing yard work I've been playing the new festival quests. Then about 10 minutes ago it hit me, I'm spending all this time running around a maze looking for mugs of ale, racing a horse around a track, and stomping on shrews so I can get a couple of horses and some cosmetic clothes that are worse than what I currently have.....


Sounds like every holiday event in every mmo ever. Except maybe the shrews, that's kind of different I guess?

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Image IPB  Wow, 4000 pages. You guys must really hate the ending.  Image IPB

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okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:

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sagevallant wrote...

Macro Dude wrote...


Biggles? Oh yeah you are the clown that everyone on this forum wants to feed to a thresher maw. You sir a what we folks who were actually born with a working brain ih our heads, are a patronizing joke, who clearly thinks bad taste is en, vogue. Well, seems you also drnk the Koolaid buddy.

You probably think we are all a buch of rabbel rousing trouble makers too, don't you? Our statements didn't devalue this franchise, The endings to this game pretty much did that all by themselves without our help.

Biggles pal, you must have a real love of Greek tragedies, because in the end that's what we have been given. Understand that there are only a small minority that actually LIKE this kind of ending. most of us clearly hate it and that, you patronizing moron, is what this forum is all about.

Now I could continue to point out what an idiot you are, and continue to make you look stupid for insulting my inteligence, but thankfully you have managed to do that without my help


Dude, we're not the militant wing. We're the hash-smoking protesters with picket signs. We do not feed the trolls. We do not seek a mega-happy ending to crush the souls of people who may potentially have actually liked the ending for some inexplicable reason. We do not abuse the caps lock, nor bold the text. And we do not harass Biggles, trolls, or anyone else. We are not (all) here to complain about a sad ending, just an incomplete one.

We are here to talk about the things we didn't like about the game, and why. We are here to talk about how the promises made by Bioware, of our choices mattering and of what the series means to us. We are not here to hate. If it were hate that drove us to the Line, we would've just abandoned it and played other games by other devs and publishers. Because that would be easier.

We have been here for thousands of posts, thousands of pages. Biggles among us, and trust me he does not like the koolaid. So, please, I think I speak for everyone when I say.... don't start drama. Just fall in line on the Line.

I do apologise, if my prior statments were a bit harsh, and i will keep my personal feelings about others, on this forum out of future posts. But face it, He was being patronizing, and nobody I know cares for that.

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

Image IPB  Wow, 4000 pages. You guys must really hate the ending.  Image IPB

'Twas quite bad, yes.

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dirtdiver32318 wrote...

okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:

We're not hating Bioware, we're hating what they gave us... Two seperate things of hate there.
And yes the ending is that bad... Its so bad that people have been put off playing other games.... Just saying.... :unsure:

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dirtdiver32318 wrote...

okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:


The core problems that a lot of us have with the ending is

1: Every decision we've made in the series up to this point is rendered meaningless. All that remains is a number value assigned for war assets.

2: The existence of the Star Brat opens far more plot holes than he closes, and is just generally poor writing. Why didn't he just let the Reapers through back in ME1? Or before Shepard was on the scene? There's a term called "narrative cohesion", and the ending sorely lacks it. In exchange we get multicolored explosions.

3: We are shown in the Arrival DLC that destroying a Relay creates massive devastation. This does not, apparently, happen in the ending of ME3. We are not SHOWN that it does not happen, the ending could be interpreted as the crew of the Normandy are the last people left alive. Anywhere. Also, thumbs down on the cliche tripe of landing on a Garden of Eden stand-in.

4: Even if there isn't galactic devastation, the Relays are off. Nonfunctional. How do the forces you brought to the war get home? The quarians and the turians at the very least are doomed to starve, due to their amino acids not being compatible with food from Earth. If there's any food left on Earth, anyway. People were throwing around the theory that the Krogan were just going to eat everyone else. What happened to them? They all got home fine of course, man I feel bad for anyone not following the twitter accounts of Bioware writers or else they'd never know.

It's just terrible writing on the tail of excellent writing and it's really jarring. I like to throw around a theory about EA planning to sell a proper ending later like Capcom did with Asura's Wrath, but they've denied it. Though they denied that From Ashes was on the disc too...

Anyway, yeah. I feel like the ending just gets more and more frustrating the more you think about it. The game in general really. Shallow and flashy may work for Michael Bay, but I expect more from Bioware.

#100845
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Nharia1 wrote...

dirtdiver32318 wrote...

okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:

We're not hating Bioware, we're hating what they gave us... Two seperate things of hate there.
And yes the ending is that bad... Its so bad that people have been put off playing other games.... Just saying.... :unsure:


I was psychologically traumatized by it.

No joke.

I'm getting better, though, slowly but surely. :)

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Macro Dude wrote...
I do apologise, if my prior statments were a bit harsh, and i will keep my personal feelings about others, on this forum out of future posts. But face it, He was being patronizing, and nobody I know cares for that.

I've never once thought that Biggles has ever been even a smidgen patronizing... and I've been around this thread since like page 200 or something, just lurking. :?.... Yeah I'm not seeing a partonizing attitude at all from Biggles. Most of the stuff he's done is just the same as most of the people who usually were here before like this month started, silly and nonsesnical for the most part, but ready and willing to stand up for what he felt was right...

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Goodwood wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

dirtdiver32318 wrote...

okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:

We're not hating Bioware, we're hating what they gave us... Two seperate things of hate there.
And yes the ending is that bad... Its so bad that people have been put off playing other games.... Just saying.... :unsure:


I was psychologically traumatized by it.

No joke.

I'm getting better, though, slowly but surely. :)

*quickly tries to come up with an idea to psychologically scar you for life but can't* Ah well... At least I tried to think of something~! :whistle: ^_^ And Hello Goodwood *ducks behind large table for cover from possible hug attack*

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Nharia1 wrote...

dirtdiver32318 wrote...

okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:

We're not hating Bioware, we're hating what they gave us... Two seperate things of hate there.
And yes the ending is that bad... Its so bad that people have been put off playing other games.... Just saying.... :unsure:

I was legit hating Bioware for delivering a lazy ass game that's not up to quality standards, but I've since moved on to not caring, lol. Not caring about Mass Effect 3 very quickly, then moving on to not caring about Bioware itself, and then lastly not caring about the Mass Effect series as a whole.

Easier to move on to companies that care about making the best game they can, or at least care when I think they've failed with something.

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Laterali wrote...

Macro Dude wrote...
Biggles? Oh yeah you are the clown that
everyone on this forum wants to feed to a thresher maw. *snip*


way to completely misconstrue his statement and insult him for no reason... If you're going to be hostile this isn't the place for you.


Yeah, I think you too have some wires crossed. Macro Dude, Biggles is totally on your side. If that's not it then I'm a bit confused. :?


g_bassi13 wrote...

To be fair to the guy, he's certainly allowed to like it. 


Yeah to this too. No need to behave like we're gunning down enemies when we meet someone with a different opinion.


EDIT >
Errrrrr. Whoops. I missed this page somehow. Definitely very confused right now. Uh. *wanders off and walks into something*

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Nharia1 wrote...

dirtdiver32318 wrote...

okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:

We're not hating Bioware, we're hating what they gave us... Two seperate things of hate there.
And yes the ending is that bad... Its so bad that people have been put off playing other games.... Just saying.... :unsure:

Hey all,I see the billygoat chewtoys are out early this weekend.No I hate what Bioware made and their killing a series just for multiplayer,their lies about diffrent endings I can ignore cause things change in development.I can't forgive the lie MP won't affect SP,so that means anger is directed at them and not just the product they made/series destroyed.I'm to old for Koolaide and am not a fanatic(fan) I'm a consumer.
Put off playing other games,not for more that a week or so.Than I played a really EVIL Skyrim wood elf killing all(not my normal  "goodguy"finally used the torture chamber.Than I played the Witcher 2,an have been stuck in Fallout:NV ever since.