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Macro Dude

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sagevallant wrote...

dirtdiver32318 wrote...

okay dont hate bioware for the ending i say blame the guy who leaked the original ending!!!! :D and the ending isnt that bad (:


The core problems that a lot of us have with the ending is

1: Every decision we've made in the series up to this point is rendered meaningless. All that remains is a number value assigned for war assets.

2: The existence of the Star Brat opens far more plot holes than he closes, and is just generally poor writing. Why didn't he just let the Reapers through back in ME1? Or before Shepard was on the scene? There's a term called "narrative cohesion", and the ending sorely lacks it. In exchange we get multicolored explosions.

3: We are shown in the Arrival DLC that destroying a Relay creates massive devastation. This does not, apparently, happen in the ending of ME3. We are not SHOWN that it does not happen, the ending could be interpreted as the crew of the Normandy are the last people left alive. Anywhere. Also, thumbs down on the cliche tripe of landing on a Garden of Eden stand-in.

4: Even if there isn't galactic devastation, the Relays are off. Nonfunctional. How do the forces you brought to the war get home? The quarians and the turians at the very least are doomed to starve, due to their amino acids not being compatible with food from Earth. If there's any food left on Earth, anyway. People were throwing around the theory that the Krogan were just going to eat everyone else. What happened to them? They all got home fine of course, man I feel bad for anyone not following the twitter accounts of Bioware writers or else they'd never know.

It's just terrible writing on the tail of excellent writing and it's really jarring. I like to throw around a theory about EA planning to sell a proper ending later like Capcom did with Asura's Wrath, but they've denied it. Though they denied that From Ashes was on the disc too...

Anyway, yeah. I feel like the ending just gets more and more frustrating the more you think about it. The game in general really. Shallow and flashy may work for Michael Bay, but I expect more from Bioware.

 Couldn't have said it better, but I would still relly like to see one ending where even if your Shepard has to die you have a true victory, where you don't have to kill off the geth and EDI and totaly strand hundreds possibly thousands of biengs in the Sol system someof whom clearly can't survive there. It's all just terribly disapointing.

#100852
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Macro Dude wrote...

 Couldn't have said it better, but I would still relly like to see one ending where even if your Shepard has to die you have a true victory, where you don't have to kill off the geth and EDI and totaly strand hundreds possibly thousands of biengs in the Sol system someof whom clearly can't survive there. It's all just terribly disapointing.


Word of God says they end up fine. Like I said, it's a shame not everyone follows the Dev twitter accounts to find out what happens to all those helpless idiots who went to Earth. No word on HOW they're okay though...

Word of God also says the Geth and Edi are fine if you take that option. Space Brat lies. Again, thank God they put that in the game ANYWHERE. If only there was some part of the game where you could quickly tie together all the loose ends into a conclusion that actually makes sense. What you call it? That stuff that happens at the end of a story... :whistle:

#100853
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Well, at this point I for one am prepared for the worst that might come, but I still hold out a small glimmer of hope for the best weather we get it or not.

Well, again, sorry if I stepped on any toes. (Biggles) and I wish anyone out there who reads this post a very good evening.

Oh and thankyou all for your patience with me. I do have alot of love for the games I have previously played, and this just hurt's so much, that it has unfortunatly come out as rage. I don't usually have a problem with keeping my cool, but , there's no better way to put it, I'm in turmoil over all this.


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#100854
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Hope like cake is a lie.

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Ihatebadgames wrote...

Hope like cake is a lie.


If a thing is to be paradoxically our greatest weakness and strength, then let that thing be hope. For it is with hope that we strive for that which is worth accomplishing.

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Ihatebadgames wrote...

Hope like cake is a lie.


Ah haha, Nice portal referance, another favorite of mine. Image IPB 

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Goodwood wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

Hope like cake is a lie.


If a thing is to be paradoxically our greatest weakness and strength, then let that thing be hope. For it is with hope that we strive for that which is worth accomplishing.


What she said.Image IPB

Um, sorry the avatar threw me. lol. No insult intended.Image IPB

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Macro Dude wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

Hope like cake is a lie.


If a thing is to be paradoxically our greatest weakness and strength, then let that thing be hope. For it is with hope that we strive for that which is worth accomplishing.


What she said.Image IPB


I'm a guy. It's in my profile. B)

#100859
Macro Dude

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Goodwood wrote...

Macro Dude wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Ihatebadgames wrote...

Hope like cake is a lie.


If a thing is to be paradoxically our greatest weakness and strength, then let that thing be hope. For it is with hope that we strive for that which is worth accomplishing.


What she said.Image IPB


I'm a guy. It's in my profile. B)


sorry, man, the avatar threw me, lol . No insult intendedImage IPB

#100860
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And none taken, my friend.

#100861
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Goodwood wrote...

And none taken, my friend.

Friend, now that's a word I always like to hear.

(extending virtual habd in friendship)

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Okay I'm surprised that I've yet to be attacked by Goodwood... *peeks out from behind the table*

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Nharia1 wrote...

Okay I'm surprised that I've yet to be attacked by Goodwood... *peeks out from behind the table*


I dont see what happened on the last page as an attack.

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Nharia1 wrote...

Okay I'm surprised that I've yet to be attacked by Goodwood... *peeks out from behind the table*

HUG ATTACK :)

and on that I'm going to bed night all :)

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Night all,be polite and play nice.Hold the line and your wallets.

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*pops her head in quickly* Good morning all, welcome Macro! *hugs for Nhar & Goodwood*. Just stopping in to say hello before heading off to MCM to see if I can uncover any info on the EC from the VAs there ;o)

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Phoenix NL wrote...

*pops her head in quickly* Good morning all, welcome Macro! *hugs for Nhar & Goodwood*. Just stopping in to say hello before heading off to MCM to see if I can uncover any info on the EC from the VAs there ;o)

Wow thanks for the welcome! Image IPB

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Phoenix NL wrote...

*pops her head in quickly* Good morning all, welcome Macro! *hugs for Nhar & Goodwood*. Just stopping in to say hello before heading off to MCM to see if I can uncover any info on the EC from the VAs there ;o)


Whenever you get back you'll let us know right? :happy: *hugs back*

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Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

*pops her head in quickly* Good morning all, welcome Macro! *hugs for Nhar & Goodwood*. Just stopping in to say hello before heading off to MCM to see if I can uncover any info on the EC from the VAs there ;o)


Whenever you get back you'll let us know right? :happy: *hugs back*

Of course! Image IPB

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#100871
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*glomps Nhari and Phoenix*

Well hello there, ladies! And a fine evening this is, isn't it?

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Goodwood wrote...

*glomps Nhari and Phoenix*

Well hello there, ladies! And a fine evening this is, isn't it?

Yes, yes, now be a good lad and fetch me my root beer~! :D
*hugs back*

#100873
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Phoenix NL wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

Phoenix NL wrote...

*pops her head in quickly* Good morning all, welcome Macro! *hugs for Nhar & Goodwood*. Just stopping in to say hello before heading off to MCM to see if I can uncover any info on the EC from the VAs there ;o)


Whenever you get back you'll let us know right? :happy: *hugs back*

Of course! Image IPB

Goody~! So which VA's are going to be there anyways? I know that both VS's are going, but who else? Or is it just those two?

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g_bassi13 wrote...

I was legit hating Bioware for delivering a lazy ass game that's not up to quality standards, but I've since moved on to not caring, lol. Not caring about Mass Effect 3 very quickly, then moving on to not caring about Bioware itself, and then lastly not caring about the Mass Effect series as a whole.

Easier to move on to companies that care about making the best game they can, or at least care when I think they've failed with something.


I stopped caring wks ago both ME and Bioware but I am still curious to see what the EC is like and the reaction to it.  My concern has moved onto the gaming industry as a whole with regards to their ethics, practices and standards towards us as consumers.

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I'm getting the feeling that feeding fellow forum members to a pet thresher maw might be viewed as somewhat anti-social. so i traded away the maw for a nice little space hamster. I call him squishy, cuz thats what happens to him when you accedently step on him....he's ok now though.
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Modifié par Macro Dude, 26 mai 2012 - 07:19 .