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[g_bassi13]

Laterali wrote...

I just thought I'd drop this in here

Harrison Ford on Blade Runner

I liked his explanation of why he thought Deckard was a human. I hadn't seen the "Final Final cut" till recently, I had always liked the theatrical release. i know a lot of people hated the monologues, but I always kind of liked it, gave it a noire kind of feel.

I still don't know how I feel about Scott coming out and saying Deckard was a replicant.

The whole movie was a kind of techno noir (is that a thing? I'm going to pretend it's a thing), but I thought the movie worked better when it spoke for itself. I haven't seen the version with narration in a while, but what I remember was that other than the fact that Harrison Ford sounded kind of bored during it, it was fine for the most part. Will probably have to watch it again.

I think it's interesting that Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott actually had a discussion about that. But unless they make that sequel and have it expressley state it one way or the other, it's up to the viewer to decide what they think is right (I think it fits better when Deckard is a human). That whole debate is probably my least favourite part about the movie, but I still think it's pretty sweet how they left clues about what Scott decided was the truth.

I hesitate to use the words speculation and interpretation in a thread about Mass Effect 3, because it's far from deserving of that same treatment and analysis, which fans ended up giving Blade Runner. ME3 set up itself to beg for it, but it doesn't deserve it just because it wants it.

Modifié par g_bassi13, 26 mai 2012 - 06:40 .

[Atrocity]

g_bassi13 wrote...

The whole movie was a kind of techno noir (is that a thing? I'm going to pretend it's a thing), but I thought the movie worked better when it spoke for itself. I haven't seen the version with narration in a while, but what I remember was that other than the fact that Harrison Ford sounded kind of bored during it, it was fine for the most part. Will probably have to watch it again.

I'll pretend right beside you. It should be a thing.
And this reminds me, I have Blade Runner somewhere on my computer. Maybe I should finally get around watching it.

[Laterali]

g_bassi13 wrote...

Laterali wrote...

I just thought I'd drop this in here

Harrison Ford on Blade Runner

I liked his explanation of why he thought Deckard was a human. I hadn't seen the "Final Final cut" till recently, I had always liked the theatrical release. i know a lot of people hated the monologues, but I always kind of liked it, gave it a noire kind of feel.

I still don't know how I feel about Scott coming out and saying Deckard was a replicant.

The whole movie was a kind of techno noir (is that a thing? I'm going to pretend it's a thing), but I thought the movie worked better when it spoke for itself. I haven't seen the version with narration in a while, but what I remember was that other than the fact that Harrison Ford sounded kind of bored during it, it was fine for the most part. Will probably have to watch it again.

I think it's interesting that Harrison Ford and Ridley Scott actually had a discussion about that. But unless they make that sequel and have it expressley state it one way or the other, it's up to the viewer to decide what they think is right (I think it fits better when Deckard is a human). That whole debate is probably my least favourite part about the movie, but I still think it's pretty sweet how they left clues about what Scott decided was the truth.

I hesitate to use the words speculation and interpretation in a thread about Mass Effect 3, because it's far from deserving of that same treatment and analysis, which fans ended up giving Blade Runner. ME3 set up itself to beg for it, but it doesn't deserve it just because it wants it.

I'm just gonna throw this out there; Blade Runner single player rpg.... I'd play the **** out of that game. In the style of the old KOTOR games, going around and investigating kind of like L.A. Noire, then chases through the streets, and over the streets in the flying cars. Swapping out pistol components like crystals in KOTOR. Then finding out towards the end, in the same vein as turning out to be Revan all along, you're actually a replicant, so do you side with the replicants and gain their freedom, or do you do your job and put them down.

[Lestatman]

Laterali wrote...

I'm just gonna throw this out there; Blade Runner single player rpg.... I'd play the **** out of that game. In the style of the old KOTOR games, going around and investigating kind of like L.A. Noire, then chases through the streets, and over the streets in the flying cars. Swapping out pistol components like crystals in KOTOR. Then finding out towards the end, in the same vein as turning out to be Revan all along, you're actually a replicant, so do you side with the replicants and gain their freedom, or do you do your job and put them down.

I could add another 3 things to the game.

No.1 - Day 1 DLC that is part of the disc but you have to pay to unlock it.
No.2 - No offline play as you have to log in to play single player.
No.3 - MP of course as every single player game needs MP.

[Laterali]

Lestatman wrote...

Laterali wrote...

I'm just gonna throw this out there; Blade Runner single player rpg.... I'd play the **** out of that game. In the style of the old KOTOR games, going around and investigating kind of like L.A. Noire, then chases through the streets, and over the streets in the flying cars. Swapping out pistol components like crystals in KOTOR. Then finding out towards the end, in the same vein as turning out to be Revan all along, you're actually a replicant, so do you side with the replicants and gain their freedom, or do you do your job and put them down.

I could add another 3 things to the game.

No.1 - Day 1 DLC that is part of the disc but you have to pay to unlock it.
No.2 - No offline play as you have to log in to play single player.
No.3 - MP of course as every single player game needs MP.

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

[Major Swift]

Lestatman wrote...

I could add another 3 things to the game.

No.1 - Day 1 DLC that is part of the disc but you have to pay to unlock it.
No.2 - No offline play as you have to log in to play single player.
No.3 - MP of course as every single player game needs MP.

those are just.........just....wonderful ideas! Every game should be like that!

[Lestatman]

Laterali wrote...

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

Lol I know but the way things are these days would it suprise you if they were all added.

Modifié par Lestatman, 26 mai 2012 - 07:16 .

[Major Swift]

Lestatman wrote...
Lol I know but the way things are these days it wouldn't suprise me if a developer did add them.

i thought those were the basic requirements you had to have added when you released a game now

[Lestatman]

Major Swift wrote...

Lestatman wrote...

I could add another 3 things to the game.

No.1 - Day 1 DLC that is part of the disc but you have to pay to unlock it.
No.2 - No offline play as you have to log in to play single player.
No.3 - MP of course as every single player game needs MP.

those are just.........just....wonderful ideas! Every game should be like that!

ROFL that's my special deluxe special content version for a price of £90.00 that you can only buy online and no trade in or refund.

[Major Swift]

Lestatman wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

Lestatman wrote...

I could add another 3 things to the game.

No.1 - Day 1 DLC that is part of the disc but you have to pay to unlock it.
No.2 - No offline play as you have to log in to play single player.
No.3 - MP of course as every single player game needs MP.

those are just.........just....wonderful ideas! Every game should be like that!

ROFL that's my special deluxe special content version for a price of £90.00 that you can only buy online and no trade in or refund.

awesome! so in reality i'll be paying £100.00 to play the game with everything i should already get, forced to sign in to online servers just to play SP and not even be able to play the first two days because of its popularity, then have to put up with maintenance every so often+random error messages, and more than likely have to play MP to finish the game or get the "best" ending? sounds like a pretty sweet deal and totally worth my money!

Modifié par Major Swift, 26 mai 2012 - 07:29 .

[HITMAN629]

Major Swift wrote...

awesome! so in reality i'll be paying £100.00 to play the game with everything i should already get, forced to sign in to online servers just to play SP and not even be able to play the first two days because of its popularity, then have to put up with maintenance every so often+random error messages, and more than likely have to play MP to finish the game or get the "best" ending? sounds like a pretty sweet deal and totally worth my money!

£100? Pfft thats the regular edition. What you really want is the ultra edition which comes with 2 pieces of concept art (you can buy the whole book for an additional £30), a sample comic book (full verison available for £20) & a jacket patch (jacket sold separately). All for a mere £200.

[Major Swift]

HITMAN629 wrote...

Major Swift wrote...

awesome! so in reality i'll be paying £100.00 to play the game with everything i should already get, forced to sign in to online servers just to play SP and not even be able to play the first two days because of its popularity, then have to put up with maintenance every so often+random error messages, and more than likely have to play MP to finish the game or get the "best" ending? sounds like a pretty sweet deal and totally worth my money!

£100? Pfft thats the regular edition. What you really want is the ultra edition which comes with 2 pieces of concept art (you can buy the whole book for an additional £30), a sample comic book (full verison available for £20) & a jacket patch (jacket sold separately). All for a mere £200.

damn things just keep getting better and better! any more editions (such as the "The Money Grab" edition) available that i could burn my cash on?

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Major Swift wrote...


damn things just keep getting better and better! any more editions (such as the "The Money Grab" edition) available that i could burn my cash on?

You get the special edition blade from the film and game blade runner... only RRP £99.99,














*what do you mean there was no blade in blade runner?*

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 26 mai 2012 - 07:53 .

[Laterali]

You also get the Sean Young action figure, it comes with glowing eyes and enough bourbon to kill a bull elephant.

[Laterali]

http://www.computera...ge=2#top_banner

Best article ever written right here.

Gets two science fiction writers, Joe Abercrombie and Jonathan Green, to discuss the ending of ME3. They do kind of come on both sides. The important part is the second page, where they basically say that the ending is just plain bad writing, in terms of science and of fiction.

Basically they too believe that the Star Baby is nonsensical and lazy.

Go read this and rejoice.

Modifié par Laterali, 26 mai 2012 - 08:25 .

[Helios969]

Article validates most peoples dissasifaction with ending, but I find little to rejoice about the fact we got sucker punched (or just plain suckered) by Bioware, and those of us that want our happy ending will not be getting it.

[Tyion133]

Think we could go Kratos on starbaby? Would be satisfying... Or in his case... Satisdying

[Laterali]

It's a pretty big victory to me. I've seen nothing but articles discussing the precedence of fan intervention, whether or not fans are just entitled, or did EA push BioWare into a rushed release. Until this article I've yet to see it get down to the main issue;

"Is this good science fiction writing."

This journalist not only got to the base of the problem, but brought in people who's livelihood depends on good fiction writing. And it's a resounding no, this wasn't good science, good fiction, and definitely not good science fiction.

Let's face it, BioWare isn't going to believe anything anyone has to say about it. To them it's brilliant and there's nothing that will change their minds, but if professional writers come down on the side of the fans, perhaps other developers will see this and take notice. They aren't infallible, there's going to be a consequence to shoddy writing.

Like I said, to me, this is a huge win for the consumers.

Tyion133 wrote...

Think we could go Kratos on starbaby? Would be satisfying... Or in his case... Satisdying ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png

I could get on board with that.

I just watched the ghostbuster one, the end was great. "You brought thorazine on our date?! What kind of creep are you?"

Modifié par Laterali, 26 mai 2012 - 09:06 .

[Helios969]

Tyion133 wrote...

Think we could go Kratos on starbaby? Would be satisfying... Or in his case... Satisdying

LOL.

[Atrocity]

Pfft, can't get the link open with my phone. Or perhaps the link got scared if the Eurovision song contest final. Can't blame if it did, this is scary. Even the ghouls have taken refuge under my sofa.

[Atrocity]

*scared of
And I mean the article link.

[Tyion133]

Atrocity wrote...

Pfft, can't get the link open with my phone. Or perhaps the link got scared if the Eurovision song contest final. Can't blame if it did, this is scary. Even the ghouls have taken refuge under my sofa.

Its just how God of War should have ended

[BigglesFlysAgain]

"I'm not sure how a bit of DLC can make the difference for Mass Effect 3. If the spike on the top of the skyscraper is wonky because the foundation is wonky, a new spike ain't going to fix it."

*Take that!*


Though I am not to sure who I was really aiming at there... Oh well, anyone can take it if they like..

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 26 mai 2012 - 09:39 .

[Major Swift]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

"I'm not sure how a bit of DLC can make the difference for Mass Effect 3. If the spike on the top of the skyscraper is wonky because the foundation is wonky, a new spike ain't going to fix it."

*Take that!*

"When it comes to a huge game like Mass Effect 3, to have an ending which negates any of the travails of the player is a mean-spirited and lazy thing to do."
this as well

[BigglesFlysAgain]

"reader control is the high road to disaster,"
I even agree that too much fan control is a bad thing, but we should not have to try and take control in the first place.

"A lot of thought upfront is important in games." And that was all squandered at the last minute.