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[blueruin]

Elegana wrote...

blueruin wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

SomethingSome wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Kaidanites have been upset too. 

The Ash fans are probably going to blow a gasket too.

Romance the VS = Eden Planet
No Eden Planet = No romance

What are you talking about.....you're not saying you need to buy From Ashes to get more scenes with Ashley are you?  Which I could totally see.

Yeah I dunno.  The Ashley lesbo option was removed though supposedly because there's no Hale dialogue for it.

That, and it kinda contradicts Ash and her religion. But that's more of an opinion than an actual issue.

Maybe that's at least in part why they ultimately removed it.  Not all that consistent with her character I suppose.  I'm glad though, I hated the Dragon Age 2 OOOH EVERYONE IS BISEXUAL thing.

[Zulmoka531]

Hell, now that it's been dubbed "Eden planet" I'd actually be less upset if they had crash landed on Eden Prime itself. Ending the series where it began. It would at least have better closure than what we've seen thus far.

[Rdubs]

BaronIveagh wrote...

Rdubs wrote...
Baron do you have a link for where it says 30 days, normally you have your stuff together pretty well so I never doubted it.

I just went back and he's right, they revised the information on the policies yesterday, so it's 24 hours now if you have played the game on Origin, and 30 days otherwise.

I'm guessing that only applies for PC users and xbox/PS3 people will be 24 hours too?

[GBGriffin]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

@GBGriffin
If they wanted it to happen, they wouldn't give you the option not to recruit them or let them die. They also wouldn't give you the option of placing them anywhere but the Normandy in that case as well. It's clear as day that it's a bug.

Ladies and gentlemen, the now-classic "BioWare wouldn't 'do this'" defense.

It's either a bug or a poor writing choice. I'll concede that I don't think it's entirely clear which is true, at this point, so I'll drop it. 

For me, it's a matter of "If it's a bug and they fix it, cool. I'm just preparing myself for the fact that it isn't."

[BaronIveagh]

The Free Jaffa wrote...
If they wanted it to happen, they wouldn't give you the option not to recruit them or let them die. They also wouldn't give you the option of placing them anywhere but the Normandy in that case as well. It's clear as day that it's a bug.

Frankly, it stinks to me. It stinks of executive meddling and a rushed game...

from Dark Reign's review of the game.

[Sashimi_taco]

People can be religious and be a homosexual!!!!!!

[BaronIveagh]

Rdubs wrote...

I'm guessing that only applies for PC users and xbox/PS3 people will be 24 hours too?

That's unclear.  The lastest revision:

• Only users in good standing may post in the forums. Our
  forums are a place for responsible and respectful conversation about
  video games. To ensure they stay that way, we’re only allowing users
  with accounts in good standing to post on this site. An account is
  determined to be in “good standing” in the following ways:
• For users who have not already logged into an EA game using this Origin account, the account must be older than 30 days;
• For
  users who are already playing EA games and have logged in using this
  Origin account, the account must be registered with this site for at
  least 24 hours.

However, it states at the bottom they reserve the right to change it without warning.

[Juniper Mucius]

Ashley believes in "G-d". There is nothing to suggest she's Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. There are plenty of gay Christians as well. So it doesn't need to be against her faith.

They could quite possibly kept her straight so she has a child (with a man). Be it Shepard or someone else's.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

People can be religious and be a homosexual!!!!!!

To be fair, she was a racist tightass.

Granted, those people are often closet homosexuals.

Modifié par MelfinaofOutlawStar, 03 mars 2012 - 11:06 .

[JBurnes3]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

People can be religious and be a homosexual!!!!!!

Are you talking about Larry Craig?

[MythicLegands]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Does no one take in account how odd it is that Garrus and Tali will appear on the Normandy no matter where they were? Why would they teleport? Why are people treating that as anything BUT a bug? Maybe a bug that's going to be fixed with the day 1 patch?

Also, another thread detailed that the Normandy crew can die in the crash, but the ending scene with the grandfather and grandson still occurs.

Anothet thing, there were multiple men and women aboard the Normandy. It's very possible that they bred to repair the Normandy. Perhaps that child is the only child. That grandfather could be the first child born. So it's possible there isn't an incestuous population. The grandfather even said that the child WILL get to see the stars. So perhaps the hypothetical Normandy repairs are almost finished?

But wait! Angry no-longer fans will say that I'm somehow in denial for thinking with mah brain!

Garrus and Tali become GODS....then they starve to death.

[Elegana]

I feel bad for the people on another forum. Someone said that if Liara dies, he'll freak out. The comments are also sad... a lot of people are going to be upset.

Modifié par Elegana, 03 mars 2012 - 11:13 .

[Juniper Mucius]

@GBGriffin

You serious with this dren? I point out obvious bug that is obvious, and I'm in denial? My gods people. This game may stink of being rushed, but this thread stinks of hating for the sake of hating.

[TheRealJayDee]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

People can be religious and be a homosexual!!!!!!

To be fair, she was a racist tightass.

*sigh*

[Sashimi_taco]

Elegana wrote...

I feel bad for the people on [a place] Someone said that if Liara dies, he'll freak out. The comments are also sad... a lot of people are going to be upset.

please don't direct people there from here, i just know people from this forum are going to try and "save" the people there. I'm having a hard enough time going through all the posts and deleting spoilers at it is. 

[Chrillze]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

@GBGriffin

You serious with this dren? I point out obvious bug that is obvious, and I'm in denial? My gods people. This game may stink of being rushed, but this thread stinks of hating for the sake of hating.

Whats up with this bug with the squadmates and normandy? TELL ME...please

[GBGriffin]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

@GBGriffin

You serious with this dren? I point out obvious bug that is obvious, and I'm in denial? My gods people. This game may stink of being rushed, but this thread stinks of hating for the sake of hating.

I admitted both are equally possible. It could either be a bug or a combination of poor writing/design oversight. I've admitted both are possible. You seem to only acknowledge the one.

[Tric]

The Free Jaffa wrote...
But wait! Angry no-longer fans will say that I'm somehow in denial for thinking with mah brain!

Does it have to be like that, we can't we have a proper discussion over this?

Does no one take in account how
odd it is that Garrus and Tali will appear on the Normandy no matter where they were? Why would they teleport? Why are people treating that as anything BUT a bug? Maybe a bug that's going to be fixed with the day 1 patch?

I'm not unwilling to believe it's a bug, if it is then great, at least I can save Kaidan and Vega from crashing but after seeing the entire group of squadmembers entering the shuttle in ME2 for no truly good reason I don't think it's too farfetched to believe it's not.

Also, do Garrus and Tali appear even when not recruted?

Also, another thread detailed that the Normandy crew can die in the crash, but the ending scene with the grandfather and grandson still occurs.

The reason why most people connect both movies is because they appear one after the other, if BioWare didn't want them to be connected there should have been a clear distinction between the two scenes as it seems to be is seems like a demonstration of time passed.

Anothet thing, there were multiple men and women aboard the Normandy. It's very possible that they bred to repair the Normandy. Perhaps that child is the only child. That grandfather could be the first child born. So it's possible there isn't an incestuous population.

And how would they repair the ship exactly? They very probably don't have access to the technology to do that nor the materials, space travel is extremely dangerous. Breeding to repair the ship doesn't make much sense unless they're planning on mining materials and somehow use them to repair the ship with them, IMO.

The grandfather even said that the child WILL get to see the stars. So perhaps the hypothetical Normandy repairs are almost finished?

Parents also tell their children about Santa Claus doesn't mean he exists. It could be very well a hope of the old man rather than something completly certain.

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Zulmoka531 wrote...

Hell, now that it's been dubbed "Eden planet" I'd actually be less upset if they had crash landed on Eden Prime itself. Ending the series where it began. It would at least have better closure than what we've seen thus far.

It was either that, Gilligan's Planet (which apparently was a real TV show ) or Deliverance planet. Since BioWare seems to love biblical vibes so much I though that one fit.

Modifié par SomethingSome, 03 mars 2012 - 11:12 .

[Elegana]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Elegana wrote...

I feel bad for the people on [a place] Someone said that if Liara dies, he'll freak out. The comments are also sad... a lot of people are going to be upset.

please don't direct people there from here, i just know people from this forum are going to try and "save" the people there. I'm having a hard enough time going through all the posts and deleting spoilers at it is. 

My apologies. I'll make sure to censor other mentions of forums.

[Delta_V2]

SomethingSome wrote...

It was either that, Gilligan's Planet (which apparently was a real TV show ) or Deliverance planet. Since BioWare seems to love biblical vibes so much I though that one fit.

In relation to how forced this all seemed, I've also heard "planet Contrivance" floated around.

Modifié par Delta_V2, 03 mars 2012 - 11:14 .

[Juniper Mucius]

Garrus and Tali magically appear on the Normandy at the end of the game. No matter where you stationed them, they magically, without explanation appear on the Normandy to get stranded. Two trains of thought:

1 - BioWare wanted this to happen! It's poor writing. Shows they care nothing about the fans. = Rational.

2: Sounds an awful lot like a bug. = Irrational fanboy that's in denial. Herp derp.

#logicfail

[Sashimi_taco]

Elegana wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Elegana wrote...

I feel bad for the people on [a place] Someone said that if Liara dies, he'll freak out. The comments are also sad... a lot of people are going to be upset.

please don't direct people there from here, i just know people from this forum are going to try and "save" the people there. I'm having a hard enough time going through all the posts and deleting spoilers at it is. 

My apologies. I'll make sure to censor other mentions of forums.

Thanks. It is jsut that that place is a strict spoiler free zone and everyone will lose their minds if this stuff is leaked to them. 

[RazorrX]

I believe the Garrus and Tali thing to be a bug.

I also think the magic 3 button deal sucks.

[Zulmoka531]

SomethingSome wrote...
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Zulmoka531 wrote...

Hell, now that it's been dubbed "Eden planet" I'd actually be less upset if they had crash landed on Eden Prime itself. Ending the series where it began. It would at least have better closure than what we've seen thus far.

It was either that, Gilligan's Planet (which apparently was a real TV show ) or Deliverance planet. Since BioWare seems to love biblical vibes so much I though that one fit.

I'm...going to have to go look up Gilligan's planet now...
But the more I think, the more I'd rather them just crash on Eden Prime. The supposed major human colony advancement. Coming full circle and all that jazz.

[GBGriffin]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Garrus and Tali magically appear on the Normandy at the end of the game. No matter where you stationed them, they magically, without explanation appear on the Normandy to get stranded. Two trains of thought:

1 - BioWare wanted this to happen! It's poor writing. Shows they care nothing about the fans. = Rational.

2: Sounds an awful lot like a bug. = Irrational fanboy that's in denial. Herp derp.

#logicfail

They already demonstrated they care nothing about the fans through the LI flashback "bug" and the stranding of the Normandy crew, not to mention the "space magic" behind the Citadel and how the Normandy just "happened to be passing by" the Charon relay.

Like I said, I'm keeping both options open, I truly am. If they patch it, cool, I'll be glad. I'll admit I made a mistake. You just seem like you don't want to acknowledge they could have simply made a poor writing/design mistake and that it *has* to be a bug, 100%.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 03 mars 2012 - 11:20 .