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[Juniper Mucius]

ratzerman wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

No it frelling doesn't.  He closed that thread because it was essentially a duplicate thread to this.  Does anyone around here know what it means to "moderate" forums?  You close duplicate threads so that the entire damn front page isn't filled with ten threads discussing the same frelling topic.  Jesus.

Sorry if I'm reading too much into what Stanley wrote, but he said "the endings." 

Not the supposed ending, or the alleged endings, or the possible ending. THE endings.

I read plenty into what Stanely wrote.  "The endings," refers to the discussion of Mass Effect endings.  Do they need to confirm or deny what people are writing?  No, they don't.  If they deny these are the endings, then they have kind of given spoilers away.  If they confirm, then they have definitely given away spoilers.

Here.  Let's see if they confirm or deny this.

Dear BioWare,

I am a tester you guys hired.  I don't like the ending where Shepard rides away on a Reaper made from melted down unicorns.

[zestyshade]

Wait, Mass Effect = Battlestar Galactica?

[Dilos01]

Just wait and see, ppl.   That's all anyone can do at this point.  ME3 will come out next tuesday and thats when we can pass judgement. 

Still...I'm having trouble contomplating these so-called 'facts' I'm reading here.  Those can't be the only endings.  It just can't!

[Juniper Mucius]

scotkrow wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

Elegana wrote...

EVani wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

EVani wrote...

Umm....no mass relay technology? All mass relays destroyed? Why don't they just study from the conduit/rumored prothean squadmate? Also why is Shepard separated from the rest of his crew+LI There better be some happy ending darn it. At the very least, let the man form his own tribe and live happily ever after while the galaxy goes back a few thousand years.

It took the protheans awhile to build the Conduit.  Establishing a Mass Relay system would take forever.  Mainly because the Mass Relays need to be interconnected.  Sure, they could rebuild the system with new relays, but it would still take them hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of years to do.

Well, we have our semi happy ending of civilization slowy recovering there. Also it took humans what 30 years to get up to speed with the res of of the galaxy? I feel like humans/shep have done enough impossible things enough that all endings should be possible except defeating the reapers without some dead colonies

It only took them 30 years because after the first contact war, the council accepted humans and humans were able to get the resources and help to catch up. However, it took them 138 years to even find and activate the mass relay. If humans never came in contact with aliens, we still wouldn't be able to have the resources to create what has been created with the help of aliens.

Actually, it was just because we activated Relay 314.  That alerted the turians, which started the war.  Interestingly enough, if "we" didn't go around activating every damn relay we found, we may have progressed fine.  After all, the First Contact War showed that, despite being isolated, we were pretty damn powerful.  We kicked some turian tail.  Of course, they would have utterly destroyed us.  We still made an impact.  Our ships were just as powerful as theirs, and we didn't have the resources they had. 

In fact, humanity might not have had to worry about the Reapers if they didn't touch Relay 314 and never discovered the greater galactic community.  The Reapers wouldn't have known about humanity, or maybe thought they weren't "powerful" enough since they never accessed the Citadel and such.

No cause the reapers activiate all relas and wope out any organic life with civilazation.

Reapers suck.

[scotkrow]

Dilos01 wrote...

Just wait and see, ppl.   That's all anyone can do at this point.  ME3 will come out next tuesday and thats when we can pass judgement. 

Still...I'm having trouble contomplating these so-called 'facts' I'm reading here.  Those can't be the only endings.  It just can't!

your icon is Anderson, have as big a man parts as he does believe what you want to, not what a bunch of idiots spew as gossple.

[Sashimi_taco]

Dilos01 wrote...

Just wait and see, ppl.   That's all anyone can do at this point.  ME3 will come out next tuesday and thats when we can pass judgement. 

Still...I'm having trouble contomplating these so-called 'facts' I'm reading here.  Those can't be the only endings.  It just can't!

This pretty much sums up how I feel too. Those cannot possibly be the endings. Im trying to reserve judgement but it is driving me crazy.

I NEED TO KNOW!

Also when i read the "endings" they seems like the fakest things i've ever read. They don't even make sense.

[panamakira]

Fooxie wrote...

Eh. I can just write my own damn happy ending if I can't get one in-game.

And I'll be reading a LOT of fanfiction. They did wonders for me in Dragon Age lore. lol 

[What a Succulent Ass]

Oh sh*t. Forty pages already?

Lolololo

[Elegana]

scotkrow wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Prometheus75 wrote...

The more I think about this the less enthused I become about playing this game. Hope it isn't something else that I have to pretend doesn't exist like the damn Star Wars prequels.

The more I think about this, the more I have hope that the endings may not even be real. I've become so much more concerned about figuring out this whole "he said, she said" mess. There's obviously something odd going on. 

It just all smells fishy.

Indeed. The only evidence I've been given that says the sources are true is "SA guy confirmed it" by SA guy only saying words and not providing any physical evidence.

[Dilos01]

scotkrow wrote...

Dilos01 wrote...

Just wait and see, ppl.   That's all anyone can do at this point.  ME3 will come out next tuesday and thats when we can pass judgement. 

Still...I'm having trouble contomplating these so-called 'facts' I'm reading here.  Those can't be the only endings.  It just can't!

your icon is Anderson, have as big a man parts as he does believe what you want to, not what a bunch of idiots spew as gossple.

uhhh...thanks??  My previous icon was a salarian

Modifié par Dilos01, 29 février 2012 - 12:11 .

[scotkrow]

[quote]The Free Jaffa wrote...

[quote]scotkrow wrote...

[quote]The Free Jaffa wrote...

[quote]Elegana wrote...

[quote]EVani wrote...

[quote]The Free Jaffa wrote...

[quote]EVani wrote...

Jargin

In fact, humanity might not have had to worry about the Reapers if they didn't touch Relay 314 and never discovered the greater galactic community.  The Reapers wouldn't have known about humanity, or maybe thought they weren't "powerful" enough since they never accessed the Citadel and such.
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No cause the reapers activiate all relas and wope out any organic life with civilazation.

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Reapers suck.

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Yep, pretty much, they saw our mamal ancestors and said, "Awe how cute, we'll wait till they become a space faring spieces in 50,000 years and wipe them out then."  But then you can go in as Shpard and **** their **** up and they'll be all like.  "NO!  We should have got them when we had the chance!"

[WvStolzing]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

Dilos01 wrote...

Just wait and see, ppl.   That's all anyone can do at this point.  ME3 will come out next tuesday and thats when we can pass judgement. 

Still...I'm having trouble contomplating these so-called 'facts' I'm reading here.  Those can't be the only endings.  It just can't!

This pretty much sums up how I feel too. Those cannot possibly be the endings. Im trying to reserve judgement but it is driving me crazy.

I NEED TO KNOW!

Also when i read the "endings" they seems like the fakest things i've ever read. They don't even make sense.

I bet there's a happy ending; there has to be. Even involving LI marriage and stuff. Yes, it's stupid, and cheesy; but that's what I'll go for; because playing this game is a way for me to put my mind on hold. I became hooked on to this stuff because it takes me back to my daydreams when I was 12.

(I think that's what it's designed for in any case.)

[scotkrow]

Dilos01 wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Dilos01 wrote...

Just wait and see, ppl.   That's all anyone can do at this point.  ME3 will come out next tuesday and thats when we can pass judgement. 

Still...I'm having trouble contomplating these so-called 'facts' I'm reading here.  Those can't be the only endings.  It just can't!

your icon is Anderson, have as big a man parts as he does believe what you want to, not what a bunch of idiots spew as gossple.

uhhh...thanks??  My previous icon was a salarian

Well salarian...?  I'd have told you to sit back and process some data! 

[Hayes1987]

Where are these endings you guys are talking about? I'm.......more than a little curious about them.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I'm glad that there's a lot of upset people voicing their opinions.

If the info is true, and it looks like it probably is, Bioware needs to know that the fanbase, by and large, isn't happy. If enough people say something, say how they feel...maybe they'll listen. Right now, this has taken precedent over anything else gameplay related. That really says a lot about how we've invested in the story, in the characters, in the series. But as visible as it is...they can't pretend people aren't speaking up. 40 pages and counting in less than one day. Dozens and dozens of individual posters. It's not much yet but it's hitting fast and it shows that people who are concerned with a game of this type--the narrative--are largely upset with what they'll be given.

Oh and how I hope it's all false and it's a joke, or trolling! But it probably isn't going by what we presently have. So why wait? Let them know now, keep letting them know, and keep it up past the time we're all done with this game and see the ending. We might get some DLC out of it that rectifies everything. That'd at least be nicer than shoehorning a decision for us, wouldn't it? Giving people a choice--it's a novel concept for sure!

[Nodnol88]

I've thought about all this since it first sprang up, and I think it's settled in that I'm not having a knee-jerk reaction.

I'm a little disappointed, if this indeed kosher, that there is little choice in the outcome. All the little decisions we made throughout the series are instantly made redundant. Who cares if we spared Zhu's Hope? Who cares what decisions we took with Conrad Verner? I could go on.

The FACT is, no matter what Bioware did, they would have to be VERY careful as to how ME3 ended, because screwing it up would completely destroy the experience. Until I've played the game, I won't judge, because the context of the journey simply isn't there when you're reading pockets of info across various second hand sources.

Part of me feels simple disappointed that I allowed my curiosity to ruin the potential end game. Part of me is disappointed that I can't ride off into the sunset, if I chose to do so. Hell if we have the option to kill everyone in ME2's finale, why can't we have endings that match the scope of those decisions? If anything, ME3 would allow for MORE variables because we know this is the end of Shepard's story and thus they don't have to worry as much about the narrative going forward.

I do like dark endings, but normally that's because the tone of the medium is laced with darkness. However, Mass Effect, for me, despite being very dark at times, fills me with hope when going forward. There's always light at the end of the tunnel. I can appreciate that survival of some description is better than galactic genocide, but the thing that really grinds me is Shepard's separation from the SR2 and crew. IMHO, it should be the other way round, and it's Shepard that is lost and whose fate is left unknown.

The fact is, games are made based on what sells. If NE makes EA money, there WILL be another game. They can't systematically destroy the world in which new games would take place. The only thing I can think of is a MASSIVE time jump.

It did occur to me though, that there is a great potential for irony here. Say the Mass Effecf Relays are destroyed, but over the years the remaining civilizations rebuild them. The tales of the Reaper's are lost and the community reaches a point where for some reason or another, they have to assimilate themselves as a race (or races) to survive. They destroy what's left of their civilization, and retreat into dark space to wait for the galaxy to heal itself and new life be given a chance....

Or this could all be rubbish....

Or there could be a launch patch that adds new files and thus new endings to the game. It amazes me that developers don't take more measures against leaks, given that they KNOW parts of the community can dig out files and what not from even demos. With an experiment such as an RPG as epic as this, they'd try and hide things better....

[panamakira]

A week is too far away I need to see these depressive endings myself! There has to be something good/satisfying in there! I'll be camping at Gamestop midnight it seems~

*sigh, off to play MP*

[Elegana]

Hayes1987 wrote...

Where are these endings you guys are talking about? I'm.......more than a little curious about them.

A guy from Something Awful forums and someone who got a Space copy said there's three main endings and three levels for them: Bad, neutral, good.

Merge: Everyone become half-organic, half-synthetic. Shepard dies.
Control: Shepard controls the Reapers but is trapped on the Citadel forever. Shepard dies.
Destroy: Shepard destroys Reapers and Mass Relays. Shepard can live in this one.

No matter what ending, the mass relays supposedly blow up or stop. The normandy supposedly crashes on a random moon/planet and they colonize.

Some believe these are not the endings. 

[Capeo]

Elegana wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Prometheus75 wrote...

The more I think about this the less enthused I become about playing this game. Hope it isn't something else that I have to pretend doesn't exist like the damn Star Wars prequels.

The more I think about this, the more I have hope that the endings may not even be real. I've become so much more concerned about figuring out this whole "he said, she said" mess. There's obviously something odd going on. 

It just all smells fishy.

Indeed. The only evidence I've been given that says the sources are true is "SA guy confirmed it" by SA guy only saying words and not providing any physical evidence.

Or you could just read the script which has the exact same endings and is out there for all to read if you don't want to believe Tank from SA who was testing the game until January when he got fired for posting about it.

[scotkrow]

Nodnol88 wrote...

I've thought about all this since it first sprang up, and I think it's settled in that I'm not having a knee-jerk reaction.

I'm a little disappointed, if this indeed kosher, that there is little choice in the outcome. All the little decisions we made throughout the series are instantly made redundant. Who cares if we spared Zhu's Hope? Who cares what decisions we took with Conrad Verner? I could go on.

The FACT is, no matter what Bioware did, they would have to be VERY careful as to how ME3 ended, because screwing it up would completely destroy the experience. Until I've played the game, I won't judge, because the context of the journey simply isn't there when you're reading pockets of info across various second hand sources.

Part of me feels simple disappointed that I allowed my curiosity to ruin the potential end game. Part of me is disappointed that I can't ride off into the sunset, if I chose to do so. Hell if we have the option to kill everyone in ME2's finale, why can't we have endings that match the scope of those decisions? If anything, ME3 would allow for MORE variables because we know this is the end of Shepard's story and thus they don't have to worry as much about the narrative going forward.

I do like dark endings, but normally that's because the tone of the medium is laced with darkness. However, Mass Effect, for me, despite being very dark at times, fills me with hope when going forward. There's always light at the end of the tunnel. I can appreciate that survival of some description is better than galactic genocide, but the thing that really grinds me is Shepard's separation from the SR2 and crew. IMHO, it should be the other way round, and it's Shepard that is lost and whose fate is left unknown.

The fact is, games are made based on what sells. If NE makes EA money, there WILL be another game. They can't systematically destroy the world in which new games would take place. The only thing I can think of is a MASSIVE time jump.

It did occur to me though, that there is a great potential for irony here. Say the Mass Effecf Relays are destroyed, but over the years the remaining civilizations rebuild them. The tales of the Reaper's are lost and the community reaches a point where for some reason or another, they have to assimilate themselves as a race (or races) to survive. They destroy what's left of their civilization, and retreat into dark space to wait for the galaxy to heal itself and new life be given a chance....

Or this could all be rubbish....

Or there could be a launch patch that adds new files and thus new endings to the game. It amazes me that developers don't take more measures against leaks, given that they KNOW parts of the community can dig out files and what not from even demos. With an experiment such as an RPG as epic as this, they'd try and hide things better....

Only thing I have to say... Maybe they leaked faulty info on purpose to stir people up and they'll denounce stuff later, once the games been out for a while.

[Juniper Mucius]

scotkrow wrote...

Yep, pretty much, they saw our mamal ancestors and said, "Awe how cute, we'll wait till they become a space faring spieces in 50,000 years and wipe them out then."  But then you can go in as Shpard and **** their **** up and they'll be all like.  "NO!  We should have got them when we had the chance!"

As someone that studies both evolution and human civilization, your use of "mammal" and "50,000" years here makes me both chuckle and hurt.

Modifié par The Free Jaffa, 29 février 2012 - 12:22 .

[CerberusSoldier]

The endings are real someone who has the game has confirmed it . its time to wise up and see the facts for what they are

[scotkrow]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

The endings are real someone who has the game has confirmed it . its time to wise up and see the facts for what they are

Someone with the game couldbe lieing just to **** with everyone.

[Cyricsservant101]

DiebytheSword wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Speaking of Stephen King the ending to the film version of The Mist was quite similar in it's gut-wrenchingness. Ahhh, that was wonderful.

Quite, even though the book's ending was quite a bit more bleak, the film delivered true horror of a sort the novel never delivered.  It was so good King was quoted saying he wished he thought of it before Darabont.

Gut-wrenching?  I laughed my ass off. 

Literally seconds after the father blows his kid's brains out the military shows up and the mist recedes.  It was so incredibly contrived, it completely shattered my suspension of disbelief and I no longer gave two ****s about the characters.  The Mist is a prime example of how NOT to do a bleak ending.

Anyway GodWood, I'm not sure why you keep insisting that an ending where:

- The world has been thrown back into the "dark ages" of pre-intragalactic travel
- Several alien races have been wiped out, and many (including humans) have been devastated
- Shepard and most of the Normandy crew  managed to survive and not get split up

is somehow a sprinkles and rainbows ending that shouldn't exist.

Can't we have that ending AND an ending where everyone dies, or Shepard gets stranded and spends the rest of his days listening to Slipknot and cutting himself?

Modifié par Cyricsservant101, 29 février 2012 - 12:23 .

[CerberusSoldier]

They are real and Bioware is not sayinjg anything so they are doing damage control