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[Jackal7713]

KBomb wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

Just watched that video, and my companion across the room looked up and said, "Was there a writers' strike?"

Wow, is it really that bad?

Its worse. The lack of effort is pathetic to say the least.

[recentio]

Rob_K1 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

@Rob

Why you have no sense of humor?

Oh, I have a sense of humor alright. But forgive me if it's rather lacking after trying to convince people they should wait and see, when they're content to only see things how they want to see things. It's like picking up a book, flipping to the last page and reading one or two sentences. Then forming an unchangeable opinion of what happens.

recentio wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

@Rob

Lawl. The kid at the is the kid from the beginning. He's talking to his grandpa in space heaven.

recentio wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Shouldn't
be posting this as I swore I wouldn't and even though this won't do any
good, the kid makes sense now. Though it should have actually been
partly obvious anyway even before running across what I have just now.

And
no, I'm not elaborating further. I'm sure others explain can explain if
they've been privvy to what I have, but it become clear near the game's
start why the kid's voice appears at the end (two possible reasons
actually). But again, context is everything as is playing the
game.

Just tell us, man. I'm assuming it's a running
theme through the game that builds up to the heart-warming message that
having children in an inbred colony makes galactic destruction and
forced separation from your loved ones no matter what you do a nice
feeling...except it doesn't.

Cheers for reminding me why I shouldn't have bothered.

It's a reason you should bother. To prove us wrong so we'll want this game again. Honestly, I would love to be wrong.

Fair enough and this is the last time I'm trying. If this doesn't help, then nothing will.

Shortly after leaving the Citadel, he has a nightmare where the kid is present and once Shepard reaches said kid, the kid gets set alight and disappears basically, while there are sounds of Reapers attacking in the background.

You can take it two ways: The 'Guardian is trying to contact him'. (And I only mention this one because someone else mentioned it, but I think it's highly unlikely)

Or

The kid represents all of the people being lost back home, the generations of the future that are being wiped out and ones he cannot save. Following on, that can apply to the ending sequence too, as the kid would represent the future generations that he and others have been fighting for. Plus, Shepard could relate to the kid. So, that's why the Guardian appears/sounds the way it does to Shepard.

Of course, I could be wrong, but I would say that based on that, it has credence for why the Guardian would sound the way it does. It appears in the form that Shepard could most relate to.

Edit: Seems the formatting is being messed up for some reason.

Okay, thank you for sharing this. So maybe it's like Shepard couldn't save the kid at the beginning but after fighting through the game he is able to save the kid at the end... That's good. Very good. I'd call that a legitimatly artistic ending (no air quotes but for real). If they keep hitting that subplot thoughout the game with the dialogue with Anderson and the dream/nightmare and the Crucible and so forth it could build up really well.

...I still want to wait to know if its at all possible for Shepard to ever see his crew again so I'm still waiting for the whole story to come out next week before taking the plunge... That togetherness is something I really want in one of the endings. The thought of him never seeing them again is too much for me after building those relationships over three games. But, it sounds like the running theme with the kid may indeed be a good one. I apologize for speaking against it.

Modifié par recentio, 04 mars 2012 - 01:12 .

[StarSpacer]

Just for the fun's sake!Watch this!
& Chill out!

I party at the Citadel!

[BaronIveagh]

ithurtz wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

What's bothering me is that I could swear I've seen this ending before somewhere.

Duke Nukem Forever?

no...it's... I can almost... oh, crap.


THEY STOLE THE ENDING FROM DIVERGENCE EVE (the first ending from season one)

[MythicLegands]

Icinix wrote...

Canned Bullets wrote...

Wait. So the kid being the Guardian is just more pretentious artsy bull****? Wow just wow.

Yep. The ending and indeed the kid from start to finish, is trying to force the players motivation into something.

It might work well for others, but I think most adult gamers already can create their own reasons for motivation. They don't need to have something dangled in their face telling them why they fight or whats at stake. They already know - and they certainly didn't need it for the last two games.

You have to remember that Mass effect 3 is the best place to start the trilogy, or so I'm told.

[XX55XX]

kingsims wrote...

Its a Deus Ex ending but executed poorly. Thats all is i will say. Go watch the deus ex endings and see how awesome and badass they are.

I loved the Invisible War endings. Remember when you could turn over control to the Templars and watch them force everyone to ditch technology completely?

[Naqey]

I dont know if anyone has already posted this on the bsn forums
BUT HOLY ****, THE WRITING, THERE ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE IT >_>



this is the dialog of the final choice / epilogue

JESUS CHRIST MY EARS

Modifié par Naqey, 04 mars 2012 - 01:16 .

[KBomb]

MythicLegands wrote...


You have to remember that Mass effect 3 is the best place to start the trilogy, or so I'm told.

[greatgeek]

omgBAMF wrote...

yeah... pretty lame. Just posting this link again so it doesn't get buried.

Damnit

[Garrus30]

Rob_K1 wrote...

Right, I give up. Icinix, that was not to you, by the way. I appreciate you replying the way you did.

But the whole 'artsy bull ****' as so eloquently put by Canned makes me realise enough is enough.

There's very little to no reasoning to do here. People are just dead set on hating things.

Edit: You'd be surprised though, Icinix. I remember the posts from people saying 'why should i care about earth'? I mean, we only live on the planet even if it's not the version represented in-game.

Don't bother, they are too stubborn, torn up all the leaks and scattered them all around that they even don't know that they are getting more and more confused 

Modifié par Garrus30, 04 mars 2012 - 01:16 .

[GBGriffin]

MythicLegands wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Canned Bullets wrote...

Wait. So the kid being the Guardian is just more pretentious artsy bull****? Wow just wow.

Yep. The ending and indeed the kid from start to finish, is trying to force the players motivation into something.

It might work well for others, but I think most adult gamers already can create their own reasons for motivation. They don't need to have something dangled in their face telling them why they fight or whats at stake. They already know - and they certainly didn't need it for the last two games.

You have to remember that Mass effect 3 is the best place to start the trilogy, or so I'm told.

In a way, it is. You haven't spent hours with the first two games preparing for it.

[gearseffect]

Here is one for laughs, Over at the ME3 Facebook page they asked what people are doing before ME3 hits and what type of ending they want to see.

And amid all the hopes and dreams of blue children, Shep Tali loving ending with wedding and kissing the brides face
ME3 has this comment "This positivity is incredible and encouraging! Thank you all so much for the love! We are glad to have such great and dedicated fans!"

I sh!t you not so much for the hopes and dreams of fairy tale endings!

[GBGriffin]

Garrus30 wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Right, I give up. Icinix, that was not to you, by the way. I appreciate you replying the way you did.

But the whole 'artsy bull ****' as so eloquently put by Canned makes me realise enough is enough.

There's very little to no reasoning to do here. People are just dead set on hating things.

Edit: You'd be surprised though, Icinix. I remember the posts from people saying 'why should i care about earth'? I mean, we only live on the planet even if it's not the version represented in-game.

Don't bother, they are too stubborn, torn up all the leaks and scattered them all around that they even don't know that they are getting more and more confused 

The only thing I'm confused about, personally, is how you could type that and think to yourself, "Yeah, this makes sense" before posting it.

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

BaronIveagh wrote...

ithurtz wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

What's bothering me is that I could swear I've seen this ending before somewhere.

Duke Nukem Forever?

no...it's... I can almost... oh, crap.


THEY STOLE THE ENDING FROM DIVERGENCE EVE (the first ending from season one)

I never watched that before, but judging from the way you phrased it, the ending is ****** as well i take it?

Speaking of anime, i would rather they stole from cowboy bebop. Not an ideal one, but at least shepard can go sacrifice himself knowing that his crew is safe and sound...

[albertalad]

One of the guys on YouTube commented on this kid video and I quote: "This isn't even worth pirating!" Man, THAT eloquently sums it up to perfection!

[Karrie788]

albertalad wrote...

One of the guys on YouTube commented on this kid video and I quote: "This isn't even worth pirating!" Man, THAT eloquently sums it up to perfection!

He's not alone. I've spotted six of those so far.

[Icinix]

GBGriffin wrote...

MythicLegands wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Canned Bullets wrote...

Wait. So the kid being the Guardian is just more pretentious artsy bull****? Wow just wow.

Yep. The ending and indeed the kid from start to finish, is trying to force the players motivation into something.

It might work well for others, but I think most adult gamers already can create their own reasons for motivation. They don't need to have something dangled in their face telling them why they fight or whats at stake. They already know - and they certainly didn't need it for the last two games.

You have to remember that Mass effect 3 is the best place to start the trilogy, or so I'm told.

In a way, it is. You haven't spent hours with the first two games preparing for it.

I actually think if you have no knowledge of ME1 and ME2 - The ME2 story and ending isn't bad.

BUT - if you are aware of the first two, the endings, the kid, the Reaper motivation etc - it just doesn't seem to make sense in the whole.

[Jackal7713]

XX55XX wrote...

kingsims wrote...

Its a Deus Ex ending but executed poorly. Thats all is i will say. Go watch the deus ex endings and see how awesome and badass they are.

I loved the Invisible War endings. Remember when you could turn over control to the Templars and watch them force everyone to ditch technology completely?

If we know anything its that Deus Ex: HR was the last game the writers played.

[evilpotato]

this is re-enforces Hollywood's number one rule - child actors do NOT make good dramatic actors. I'm not sure how many people hear would remember Babylon 5, but when Sherridan finally faced the personification of the Shadows (the serie's big bad who were actually quite simliar to the Reapers), it shapeshifted between various different characters from the series (living and dead, friends and foes) while monologuing about their motivations - that was awesome and approperiate. This, this was just some kid you didn't know and saw at the start of the game for like 2 minutes, who cares about that kid! people care about the characters we spent the last 2 games (4 years) learning about. Throwing that kid in there at the end is just lazy, what has that kid done to justify such a significant role in the climax of the story, aside from die 2 minutes after he was introduced.

[Icinix]

gearseffect wrote...

Here is one for laughs, Over at the ME3 Facebook page they asked what people are doing before ME3 hits and what type of ending they want to see.

And amid all the hopes and dreams of blue children, Shep Tali loving ending with wedding and kissing the brides face
ME3 has this comment "This positivity is incredible and encouraging! Thank you all so much for the love! We are glad to have such great and dedicated fans!"

I sh!t you not so much for the hopes and dreams of fairy tale endings!

Ouch.

Lap it up ME3 Facebook page - once you shatter their hopes and dreams they'll be sucking their positivity right back off the page.

[GBGriffin]

Icinix wrote...


I actually think if you have no knowledge of ME1 and ME2 - The ME2 story and ending isn't bad.

BUT - if you are aware of the first two, the endings, the kid, the Reaper motivation etc - it just doesn't seem to make sense in the whole.

What I'm saying is that I agree. This is the perfect place to start because you don't have any history and the sense to know that what they've done just doesn't work.

[omgBAMF]

gearseffect wrote...

Here is one for laughs, Over at the ME3 Facebook page they asked what people are doing before ME3 hits and what type of ending they want to see.

And amid all the hopes and dreams of blue children, Shep Tali loving ending with wedding and kissing the brides face
ME3 has this comment "This positivity is incredible and encouraging! Thank you all so much for the love! We are glad to have such great and dedicated fans!"

I sh!t you not so much for the hopes and dreams of fairy tale endings!

Possibly setting up a damage control team and are preparing for the onslaught

[Garrus30]

GBGriffin wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Right, I give up. Icinix, that was not to you, by the way. I appreciate you replying the way you did.

But the whole 'artsy bull ****' as so eloquently put by Canned makes me realise enough is enough.

There's very little to no reasoning to do here. People are just dead set on hating things.

Edit: You'd be surprised though, Icinix. I remember the posts from people saying 'why should i care about earth'? I mean, we only live on the planet even if it's not the version represented in-game.

Don't bother, they are too stubborn, torn up all the leaks and scattered them all around that they even don't know that they are getting more and more confused 

The only thing I'm confused about, personally, is how you could type that and think to yourself, "Yeah, this makes sense" before posting it.

No I don't think that it makes sense or not, as I haven played it yet so I'll judge it first when I play it thanks 

I bet the people who got spoiled (especially here) from the ending are probably the majority who probably don't like the endings. 

Modifié par Garrus30, 04 mars 2012 - 01:23 .

[Icinix]

GBGriffin wrote...

Icinix wrote...


I actually think if you have no knowledge of ME1 and ME2 - The ME2 story and ending isn't bad.

BUT - if you are aware of the first two, the endings, the kid, the Reaper motivation etc - it just doesn't seem to make sense in the whole.

What I'm saying is that I agree. This is the perfect place to start because you don't have any history and the sense to know that what they've done just doesn't work.

Yeah - My word prowess was not strong - it was meant to be an agreement but it came out like a disagreement.

Modifié par Icinix, 04 mars 2012 - 01:22 .

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

Icinix wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Here is one for laughs, Over at the ME3 Facebook page they asked what people are doing before ME3 hits and what type of ending they want to see.

And amid all the hopes and dreams of blue children, Shep Tali loving ending with wedding and kissing the brides face
ME3 has this comment "This positivity is incredible and encouraging! Thank you all so much for the love! We are glad to have such great and dedicated fans!"

I sh!t you not so much for the hopes and dreams of fairy tale endings!

Ouch.

Lap it up ME3 Facebook page - once you shatter their hopes and dreams they'll be sucking their positivity right back off the page.

Honestly, I really don't see the point of all these last minute interviews about "CHOICES!!!", blog posts about "JOURNEY!!!" etc. Aside from adding more fuel to the incoming fire maybe?