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[KreagonPL]

Well try to remember that Bioware said that most of people will be disappointed/agry with ME 3 ending some will be happy...
So pretty sure that those leaked versions are true.

[EVani]

If I can't have the perfect ending, I'd be fairly happy with having to choose between 1) Shepard did his best to save the galaxy and save them from being screwed at the cost of being separated from crew and LI or 2) The galaxy gets booted back to pre-space flight but Shepard gets away with his crew and LI.

[Tazzmission]

can someone post a link to that puma guy regarding this?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 29 février 2012 - 12:34 .

[Hayes1987]

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Where are these endings you guys are talking about? I'm.......more than a little curious about them.

A guy from Something Awful forums and someone who got a Space copy said there's three main endings and three levels for them: Bad, neutral, good.

Merge: Everyone become half-organic, half-synthetic. Shepard dies.
Control: Shepard controls the Reapers but is trapped on the Citadel forever. Shepard dies.
Destroy: Shepard destroys Reapers and Mass Relays. Shepard can live in this one.

No matter what ending, the mass relays supposedly blow up or stop. The normandy supposedly crashes on a random moon/planet and they colonize.

Some believe these are not the endings. 

But if those things are not true wouldn't they say something? Man.........maybe I shouldn't have looked.

[scotkrow]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Yep, pretty much, they saw our mamal ancestors and said, "Awe how cute, we'll wait till they become a space faring spieces in 50,000 years and wipe them out then."  But then you can go in as Shpard and **** their **** up and they'll be all like.  "NO!  We should have got them when we had the chance!"

As someone that studies both evolution and human civilization, your use of "mammal" and "50,000" years here makes me both chuckle and hurt.

but.. but...
Neanderthal men...
mamals!

Died out about 30,000 years ago.  Humanity, as we are today, came about around 200,000 years ago.

But Humans are mamals, we are animals, so I don't see who calling us mamals 50,000 years ago can hurt, also Neanderthals crossed into the human gene pool too, it's where red heads come from.

Neanderthals breeding with humans is still debated.  Had a discussion with about that in my evolution class, actually.  I thought it was proven, but ask others in the field and they'll say no.  It's not like other things (Global Warming) where there is a 90% or above consensus among those that study the field.  As well, we are mammals.  Which is why I found it funny that you said "mammal ancestors".  I know how you meant it, but the way it comes off is that our ancestors were mammals, but not us.  =P

Yeah, I read about the neanderthal thing about 3 or 4 years ago, and I was just to lazy to confirm modern humans existing at that point so said mamals cause while it's not specific it's not untrue, past humans were still mamals.

[AlphaJarmel]

Dilos01 wrote...

Elegana wrote...


If in the end, their words ring true, then so what if I'm wrong? I'm just not easily swayed by things like this. I rather believe the devs.

You want my advice?  Don't believe anything anyone says: Dev or otherwise.  We won't know until next tuesday!

It's already seeming like they straight up lied about the Readiness meter so I really don't trust the devs anymore either.

[EVani]

KreagonPL wrote...

Well try to remember that Bioware said that most of people will be disappointed/agry with ME 3 ending some will be happy...
So pretty sure that those leaked versions are true.

Why would they want to do that to their fan base? Getting most of the people disappointed/angry is not a good idea for anything.

[Dilos01]

A Golden Dragon wrote...

Hmmm...  All six endings have extremely similar outcomes?

Who wants to bet that Bioware actually expected the datamining, and rather diliberately gave us only 1 ending in that, and that until Mar 6, we won't actually know what the real other endings are?  Day one patches are almost the norm for computer/video games (Console AND PC) nowadays.  Who's to say that the patch won't unlock other things, or just simply give them?


Bioware already altered the Demo, and even admitted it.  Who's to say they didn't alter the "Space Versions" too?


I think we are being told ONE ending, cleverly disguised, but one ending only.


ANd that Bioware is very evil, and secretly laughing at BSN.

^THIS

And I'm willing to bet that the devs are laughing their a**es off over this!

[Juniper Mucius]

scotkrow wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

The Free Jaffa wrote...

scotkrow wrote...

Yep, pretty much, they saw our mamal ancestors and said, "Awe how cute, we'll wait till they become a space faring spieces in 50,000 years and wipe them out then."  But then you can go in as Shpard and **** their **** up and they'll be all like.  "NO!  We should have got them when we had the chance!"

As someone that studies both evolution and human civilization, your use of "mammal" and "50,000" years here makes me both chuckle and hurt.

but.. but...
Neanderthal men...
mamals!

Died out about 30,000 years ago.  Humanity, as we are today, came about around 200,000 years ago.

But Humans are mamals, we are animals, so I don't see who calling us mamals 50,000 years ago can hurt, also Neanderthals crossed into the human gene pool too, it's where red heads come from.

Neanderthals breeding with humans is still debated.  Had a discussion with about that in my evolution class, actually.  I thought it was proven, but ask others in the field and they'll say no.  It's not like other things (Global Warming) where there is a 90% or above consensus among those that study the field.  As well, we are mammals.  Which is why I found it funny that you said "mammal ancestors".  I know how you meant it, but the way it comes off is that our ancestors were mammals, but not us.  =P

Yeah, I read about the neanderthal thing about 3 or 4 years ago, and I was just to lazy to confirm modern humans existing at that point so said mamals cause while it's not specific it's not untrue, past humans were still mamals.

I'm just giving you dren, my friend.

[E-Type XR]

If these are true, then it essentially makes any decision in Mass Effect ever pointless.

Who cares how you handled Wrex. The Galaxy's ****ed.

Who cares if you saved Sidonis? The Galaxy's ****ed.

Who cares if you scanned 20 Keepers? The Galaxy's ****ed.

Stay classy BioWare.

[Elegana]

Dilos01 wrote...

Elegana wrote...


If in the end, their words ring true, then so what if I'm wrong? I'm just not easily swayed by things like this. I rather believe the devs.

You want my advice?  Don't believe anything anyone says: Dev or otherwise.  We won't know until next tuesday!

I like your advice, haha. 

[Dunmer of Redoran]

EVani wrote...

KreagonPL wrote...

Well try to remember that Bioware said that most of people will be disappointed/agry with ME 3 ending some will be happy...
So pretty sure that those leaked versions are true.

Why would they want to do that to their fan base? Getting most of the people disappointed/angry is not a good idea for anything.

"Why" is completely irrelevant. All that matters is that they did it.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Dilos01 wrote...

A Golden Dragon wrote...

Hmmm...  All six endings have extremely similar outcomes?

Who wants to bet that Bioware actually expected the datamining, and rather diliberately gave us only 1 ending in that, and that until Mar 6, we won't actually know what the real other endings are?  Day one patches are almost the norm for computer/video games (Console AND PC) nowadays.  Who's to say that the patch won't unlock other things, or just simply give them?


Bioware already altered the Demo, and even admitted it.  Who's to say they didn't alter the "Space Versions" too?


I think we are being told ONE ending, cleverly disguised, but one ending only.


ANd that Bioware is very evil, and secretly laughing at BSN.

^THIS

And I'm willing to bet that the devs are laughing their a**es off over this!

After Mac Walters' blog saying about LI scenarios that it's "about the journey, not the destination" just popped up?

Doesn't sound like laughing. Sounds like damage control.

[scotkrow]

The Free Jaffa wrote...

I'm just giving you dren, my friend.

That is fine and dandy, I have to say I liek your posts, they all have some reason and rationel added to the nay sayers and blind repeaters.

Modifié par scotkrow, 29 février 2012 - 12:40 .

[Elegana]

Hayes1987 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Where are these endings you guys are talking about? I'm.......more than a little curious about them.

A guy from Something Awful forums and someone who got a Space copy said there's three main endings and three levels for them: Bad, neutral, good.

Merge: Everyone become half-organic, half-synthetic. Shepard dies.
Control: Shepard controls the Reapers but is trapped on the Citadel forever. Shepard dies.
Destroy: Shepard destroys Reapers and Mass Relays. Shepard can live in this one.

No matter what ending, the mass relays supposedly blow up or stop. The normandy supposedly crashes on a random moon/planet and they colonize.

Some believe these are not the endings. 

But if those things are not true wouldn't they say something? Man.........maybe I shouldn't have looked.

Why would they waste the time confirming or denying the endings when we're six days away from truly knowing? And the devs have lied in the past. I'm taking someone's advice and I'm just going to question things.

[ratzerman]

I think all of this talk about a "secret ending" is giving Mac Walters too much credit. This is the guy who thought it made sense to load Shepard and every squad member onto a shuttle to go on a phantom "mission" just so the Normandy could be invaded by the Collectors. He doesn't care if things make sense as long as it's dramatic.

[CerberusSoldier]

 

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Where are these endings you guys are talking about? I'm.......more than a little curious about them.

A guy from Something Awful forums and someone who got a Space copy said there's three main endings and three levels for them: Bad, neutral, good.

Merge: Everyone become half-organic, half-synthetic. Shepard dies.
Control: Shepard controls the Reapers but is trapped on the Citadel forever. Shepard dies.
Destroy: Shepard destroys Reapers and Mass Relays. Shepard can live in this one.

No matter what ending, the mass relays supposedly blow up or stop. The normandy supposedly crashes on a random moon/planet and they colonize.

Some believe these are not the endings. 

But if those things are not true wouldn't they say something? Man.........maybe I shouldn't have looked.

Why would they waste the time confirming or denying the endings when we're six days away from truly knowing? And the devs have lied in the past. I'm taking someone's advice and I'm just going to question things.

  



So the endings are in the leaked script and they match up with the info

[Obidex]

DaftArbiter wrote...

Dilos01 wrote...

A Golden Dragon wrote...

Hmmm...  All six endings have extremely similar outcomes?

Who wants to bet that Bioware actually expected the datamining, and rather diliberately gave us only 1 ending in that, and that until Mar 6, we won't actually know what the real other endings are?  Day one patches are almost the norm for computer/video games (Console AND PC) nowadays.  Who's to say that the patch won't unlock other things, or just simply give them?


Bioware already altered the Demo, and even admitted it.  Who's to say they didn't alter the "Space Versions" too?


I think we are being told ONE ending, cleverly disguised, but one ending only.


ANd that Bioware is very evil, and secretly laughing at BSN.

^THIS

And I'm willing to bet that the devs are laughing their a**es off over this!

After Mac Walters' blog saying about LI scenarios that it's "about the journey, not the destination" just popped up?

Doesn't sound like laughing. Sounds like damage control.

I fear you may be right, felt the same thing after reading that blog.

[RiouHotaru]

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Where are these endings you guys are talking about? I'm.......more than a little curious about them.

A guy from Something Awful forums and someone who got a Space copy said there's three main endings and three levels for them: Bad, neutral, good.

Merge: Everyone become half-organic, half-synthetic. Shepard dies.
Control: Shepard controls the Reapers but is trapped on the Citadel forever. Shepard dies.
Destroy: Shepard destroys Reapers and Mass Relays. Shepard can live in this one.

No matter what ending, the mass relays supposedly blow up or stop. The normandy supposedly crashes on a random moon/planet and they colonize.

Some believe these are not the endings. 

But if those things are not true wouldn't they say something? Man.........maybe I shouldn't have looked.

Why would they waste the time confirming or denying the endings when we're six days away from truly knowing? And the devs have lied in the past. I'm taking someone's advice and I'm just going to question things.

Also, both Tank's and Xio's statement contradict Mac Walter's interview where he states there are six endings.

Tank and Xio claim 3 endings with 3 variations.

So...someone explain the gap?

[Prometheus75]

ratzerman wrote...

I think all of this talk about a "secret ending" is giving Mac Walters too much credit. This is the guy who thought it made sense to load Shepard and every squad member onto a shuttle to go on a phantom "mission" just so the Normandy could be invaded by the Collectors. He doesn't care if things make sense as long as it's dramatic.

Did Bioware ever say what the mission was suppose to be?

[UberLevi]

Is it possible for Shepard to die in the Destroy ending? Because I'd like my Shepard to have a heroic sacrifice, but not at the expense of keeping the Reapers around.

[Capeo]

DaftArbiter wrote...

Dilos01 wrote...

A Golden Dragon wrote...

Hmmm...  All six endings have extremely similar outcomes?

Who wants to bet that Bioware actually expected the datamining, and rather diliberately gave us only 1 ending in that, and that until Mar 6, we won't actually know what the real other endings are?  Day one patches are almost the norm for computer/video games (Console AND PC) nowadays.  Who's to say that the patch won't unlock other things, or just simply give them?


Bioware already altered the Demo, and even admitted it.  Who's to say they didn't alter the "Space Versions" too?


I think we are being told ONE ending, cleverly disguised, but one ending only.


ANd that Bioware is very evil, and secretly laughing at BSN.

^THIS

And I'm willing to bet that the devs are laughing their a**es off over this!

After Mac Walters' blog saying about LI scenarios that it's "about the journey, not the destination" just popped up?

Doesn't sound like laughing. Sounds like damage control.

Bingo.  There will be more DC in the coming week.  That pretty much confirms there is no LI happy ending.  And confirms Xio and Tanks posts over at SA.

[Chignon]

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Hayes1987 wrote...

Where are these endings you guys are talking about? I'm.......more than a little curious about them.

A guy from Something Awful forums and someone who got a Space copy said there's three main endings and three levels for them: Bad, neutral, good.

Merge: Everyone become half-organic, half-synthetic. Shepard dies.
Control: Shepard controls the Reapers but is trapped on the Citadel forever. Shepard dies.
Destroy: Shepard destroys Reapers and Mass Relays. Shepard can live in this one.

No matter what ending, the mass relays supposedly blow up or stop. The normandy supposedly crashes on a random moon/planet and they colonize.

Some believe these are not the endings. 

But if those things are not true wouldn't they say something? Man.........maybe I shouldn't have looked.

Why would they waste the time confirming or denying the endings when we're six days away from truly knowing? And the devs have lied in the past. I'm taking someone's advice and I'm just going to question things.

They were pretty quick to jump in when Klace spread wrong information about the romance options just a few days ago.

Just sayin'.

Modifié par Chignon, 29 février 2012 - 12:45 .

[Dilos01]

ratzerman wrote...

I think all of this talk about a "secret ending" is giving Mac Walters too much credit. This is the guy who thought it made sense to load Shepard and every squad member onto a shuttle to go on a phantom "mission" just so the Normandy could be invaded by the Collectors. He doesn't care if things make sense as long as it's dramatic.

I have to admit, that was the most awkward moment in ME2 for me at least. 

Also...people, get a grip!!  This is not going to deter ME3 what-so-ever!  It's gone gold, we won't know anything for certain until march 6th, and everyone is getting all gloomy over some "leaks" that may OR MAYNOT be legit!!

Then again...it's BSN.  What can I expect?

Modifié par Dilos01, 29 février 2012 - 12:48 .

[ratzerman]

Prometheus75 wrote...

Did Bioware ever say what the mission was suppose to be?

It was just a device to get everyone capable of stopping the Collectors off the ship.