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So I have to keep playing it? How many times do I need to finish a multiplayer match

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Pr3ying M4nt15 360

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GBGriffin wrote...

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

I wonder if Bioware realises at this point the horrible mistake they made, if they care?


The rest of the Internet call us crybabies.


Personally I think a lot of people will be rethinking that statement when they know the ending. There is just no logical reason for Bioware to take this route when they could have easily made lazy epilogues to make everyone happy. While a proper ending would have been preferable. This is even worse than that.


Ladies and gentlemen, the final time I'll be pointing out for tonight, but I present, for your viewing pleasure, the tried and true "BioWare wouldn't 'do this'" defense.

They've done it; it's been done. Another space edition user has confirmed it. The data for any other endings isn't there. If you want to believe that a Prima strategy guide is more reliable than the game files themselves, please, knock yourself out getting the exact same endings that have already been presented. Enjoy.

Thank you, and good night.


Err excuse me, why the heck did you quote me? I know damn well Bioware have ''done this'' I'm saying it was an illogical and stupid decision. I ain't defending anyone. Is there anything I can do about it now? No aside from let Bioware know that I and many others feel let down. DLC that adds more context to the endings is not beyond the realms of possibility if enough fans are heard, although admitedly it is unlikely.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 04 mars 2012 - 04:13 .


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Merkar wrote...

After launch:

bw: Didn't like the ending? Have no fear, we had planned all along to make happy DLC for each of your LIs!

Desperate fans: Oh thank you, thank you! One hundred bucks? Doesn't matter, ANYTHING for my Shepard and <insert LI here> to be together.

Critical fans: But what about a COMPLETE experience right out of the box?

Desperate fans: OMG, trollz!!!!

bw: Suck it up, princess. Some people only know how to complain. Our true fans understand us.


You know what the funny part is? The 'Suck it up princess!' comment was a comment aimed from Gaider at me originally...

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Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...


Err excuse me, why the heck did you quote me? I know damn well Bioware have ''done this'' I'm saying it was an illogical and stupid decision. I ain't defending anyone. Is there anything I can do about it now? No aside from let Bioware know that I and many others feel let down.


Ah, my apologies for misinterpreting you, then.

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Only "good" ending-

Destroy

Reapers, Geth, EDI, gone
Earth "OK"
Shepard, alive
Universe, still royally ****ed

It is going to be a sad week for Mass Effect Fans like myself. Thanks for making me depressed all over again Bioware, you ****s.

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Ah man I remember the good ol days when the old leaks were around. In fact, anyone still got a copy of the endings from the beta leak? Send me a PM if you do.

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Eragondragonrider wrote...

This is what the guidebooks say the endings are.

1. Earth destroyed and the Galaxy overtaken; the worst possible ending; 1,750 Galactic Readiness rating OR LOWER

2. Reapers destroyed, Earth and the Galaxy devastated (if Collector Base destroyed)

3. Become a Reaper, Earth and Galaxy devastated (if Collector Base kept).

4. Reapers destroyed, Earth and the Galaxy less devastated(if Collector Base destroyed)

5. The Earth and the Galaxy saved; become a Reaper (leader) the middle ending

6. Create synergy between organic and synthetic kind, saving Earth and the Galaxy

7. Reapers destroyed, the Earth and the Galaxy saved; the Perfect Ending; 4,000 Galactic Readiness rating and certain conditions met through Mass Effect 3 met OR 5,000 Galactic Readiness by playing both single player and multiplayer

There's a 8th, surprise ending you get for completing a New Game+ campaign.+ saving a fish from ME2 all the way through ME3.:whistle:


Heeeeey I knew my gut-feeling was right ;)

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TUHD wrote...

Merkar wrote...

After launch:

bw: Didn't like the ending? Have no fear, we had planned all along to make happy DLC for each of your LIs!

Desperate fans: Oh thank you, thank you! One hundred bucks? Doesn't matter, ANYTHING for my Shepard and <insert LI here> to be together.

Critical fans: But what about a COMPLETE experience right out of the box?

Desperate fans: OMG, trollz!!!!

bw: Suck it up, princess. Some people only know how to complain. Our true fans understand us.


You know what the funny part is? The 'Suck it up princess!' comment was a comment aimed from Gaider at me originally...


LOL! You're exactly right. :)

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Is the ending with the Gaurdian all auto-dialogue (except for the "choice" of course)? I don't like the idea that i can't tell the gaurdian to kiss my ass while slamming the destroy button with pride. Anything less is inconsisten with my shepards, renagon responses of doing what it takes but never "Letting fear compromise who i am".

After all, the reapers are a construct of fear, of their fear of the unknown, of what may happen at technological singularity. They fear it is inevitable, they fear it means destruction, and they in their own hubris believe they know what is best. My shepard thinks they can all go to hell. I hate the shepard in the audio's indecisive and near sympathetic attitude in the audio leak..

If i have to pick a color, let me pick a color in the manner i choose atleast, damn.

Modifié par Zyrious, 04 mars 2012 - 04:19 .


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Pr3ying M4nt15 360

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GBGriffin wrote...

Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...


Err excuse me, why the heck did you quote me? I know damn well Bioware have ''done this'' I'm saying it was an illogical and stupid decision. I ain't defending anyone. Is there anything I can do about it now? No aside from let Bioware know that I and many others feel let down.


Ah, my apologies for misinterpreting you, then.


No worries. Sooner or later Bioware are going to realise that they should have just gone with the optimal outcome for their fans as an option. It won't change anything now. But it may change the approach to future games.

Mass Effect series is a bit special compared to most games, never before have I seen a fanbase so attached to a franchise and that's what it is a story arc of 3 games. Bioware have chosen not to handle it's ending gently or respectfully and they've fed people the impressions that they really could have the ending they wanted, but instead they've gone for ''Haha shock factor'' Now all we can do is sit back and see if we are the minority when everyone knows the ending.

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Zyrious wrote...

Is the ending with the Gaurdian all auto-dialogue (except for the "choice" of course)? I don't like the idea that i can't tell the gaurdian to kiss my ass while slamming the destroy button with pride. Anything less is inconsisten with my shepards, renagon responses of doing what it takes but never "Letting fear compromise who i am".

After all, the reapers are a construct of fear, of their fear of the unknown, of what may happen at technological singularity. They fear it is inevitable, they fear it means destruction, and they in their own hubris believe they know what is best. My shepard thinks they can all go to hell. I hate the shepard in the audio's indecisive and near sympathetic attitude in the audio leak..


It pretty much sounds like 90% of the game is auto-dialogue.

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Day 5 and only 431 pages? Guys I R very disappoint

And I really want to know what is so dang special about those fish.

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@Zyrious... it once again sounds a bit stolen from DE:HR how it gets handled, but at least Adam Jensen was tough about it.... Shephard sounds so squishy about it.

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KMYash wrote...

And I really want to know what is so dang special about those fish.


They're tiny and difficult to spot. That makes gameplay more challenging.

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Regarding the old man and the child Epilogue, Buddy Holly from SA wrote:


Well I figured out the epilogue.. it makes things a little bit better I think:

I figure the reason old man knows about all this isn't because he's some sort of inbred descendant of the Normandy but because one of Liara's time capsules landed on that particular planet.

I think these people are completely removed from our people, the crew and galaxy that we know. Maybe one of the capsules went through a relay and ended up far, far away. Which could imply that that part of the galaxy we know and love has in fact been rebuilt and is doing fantastic.

Here's the conversation from the leaked script:

Liara: So... I put a plan in motion to preserve things for the future. A record of the galaxy. Information on the Reapers, relays, different cultures... and blueprints of the Crucible. But there's one entry I wanted your opinion on. Your own. I'd be honored to have your input. How would you like history to remember you?
Shepard: Fifty-thousand years is a long time for a computer to sit around.
Liara: Please, I was an archeologist. I know what I'm doing. I'm encasing these records in time capsules and seeding copies on multiple planets. And while it's not foolproof, the VI I'm installing has every translation and linguistics program I could find.
Shepard: So it's an information guide, like Vigil or Vendetta?
Liara: Yes. I've been preparing it for some time. And it will be a privilege to guide the future discoverers of these records.

Good old Liara.

#10766
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KMYash wrote...

Day 5 and only 431 pages? Guys I R very disappoint

And I really want to know what is so dang special about those fish.

for some reason fish is a war asset, ALL HAIL JESUS FISH WHO WILL SAVE SHEPARD AND THE NORMANDY!

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Got to the "acceptance" stage after I extracted and heard the audio files from my pre-loaded game. Wil play it once, keep "the journey" in my heart as a nice one, maybe play some multiplayer to just "shoot some evil guys" without thinking too much... Then move on to some other game... Half-Life 3 maybe... Probably not so soon... I think The Witcher 2 and Arkham City... What more do we have for 2012 on PC?

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KMYash wrote...

Day 5 and only 431 pages? Guys I R very disappoint

And I really want to know what is so dang special about those fish.


Just wait until most of the BSNer that have been avoiding the forums get on after they beat ME3. I am think by Saturday or Sunday this forum will start going nuclear.

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There is hope for our crew forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php

Page 194 look for a poster by the name of Buddy Holly and scroll over his blacked out text.

Contains spoilers Obv.

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Alright so lets see if I've been paying attention.

we have a guy with the space edition (spacer) a guy from the SA forums that said he play tested the game (tester) a script leak the prima guide and the devs.

The spacer, the tester, and the script all say just about the same thing except for a minor issue where the tester says something different then the spacer and when called on it he corrects his mistake.

The spacer says he datamined the game and only found the 3 endings while the Prima guide guy says there were 7 endings according to the guide

The devs has said multiple times various things like multiple endings and maybe even the existence of the fabled "sunshine and kittens" ending but when these leaks showed up for the past 5 days the devs have been totally quiet about the whole thing not interfering with any of our complaints or interacting with the fan base in the slightest.

So somebody somewhere along this ****storm is either mistaken, trolling, or just being dishonest and I find it a bit disturbing everyone is so quick to cut down the devs for being dishonest money hungry jerks. I'm not saying they are or aren't I'm just saying there's a chance that maybe the people who made the game and the people who made a guide about the game know a bit more about whats going on then the SA guy and the spacer guy

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ediskrad327 wrote...

KMYash wrote...

Day 5 and only 431 pages? Guys I R very disappoint

And I really want to know what is so dang special about those fish.

for some reason fish is a war asset, ALL HAIL JESUS FISH WHO WILL SAVE SHEPARD AND THE NORMANDY!


Guys are they really actually a bunch of Magikarp and if you keep them alive they evolve into SPACE GYARADOS? HOLY MOLY THE REAPERS WOULD NEVER STAND A CHANCE

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Since we're talking about the galaxy in general now, I want to point out a few things I said in another thread in this section of the forums.

Epilogue aside, which can easily be explained anyway as it being a big galaxy and like looking for a needle in a haystack, I don't think it would take that long to rebuild. At least we have blowed-up relays to study now - decent enough chance we could figure out how to build new ones. We know that he Protheans were pretty close to figuring out mass relay technology when the Reapers attacked, and managed to build a small-scale one eventually, with only a few dozen people working on it and, presumably, not much in the way of resources.

And there's other plot devices that would work too.

Also, some of you folks are vastly underselling the effectiveness of conventional FTL in this universe. According to the wiki at least, it's about 12 light years a day. That would mean getting to Noveria (in the Horse Head Nebula) in about 4 months. Illium (in the Crescent Nebula) in about 14 months. It's a bit of a haul, sure, but it's feasible, at least to be able to share information and scientific progress. The biggest problem you'd run into isn't so much getting there in general, it's finding enough good places to discharge your drive core along the way, since a lot of the route probably isn't mapped.

And, like I said, the epilogue can easily be explained by pointing out how incredibly vast the galaxy is - the odds of finding a stranded ship, when you have no idea where it would be, and the people there have no FTL travel or communication ability, is relatively nil.

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blooregard wrote...

Alright so lets see if I've been paying attention.

we have a guy with the space edition (spacer) a guy from the SA forums that said he play tested the game (tester) a script leak the prima guide and the devs.

The spacer, the tester, and the script all say just about the same thing except for a minor issue where the tester says something different then the spacer and when called on it he corrects his mistake.

The spacer says he datamined the game and only found the 3 endings while the Prima guide guy says there were 7 endings according to the guide

The devs has said multiple times various things like multiple endings and maybe even the existence of the fabled "sunshine and kittens" ending but when these leaks showed up for the past 5 days the devs have been totally quiet about the whole thing not interfering with any of our complaints or interacting with the fan base in the slightest.

So somebody somewhere along this ****storm is either mistaken, trolling, or just being dishonest and I find it a bit disturbing everyone is so quick to cut down the devs for being dishonest money hungry jerks. I'm not saying they are or aren't I'm just saying there's a chance that maybe the people who made the game and the people who made a guide about the game know a bit more about whats going on then the SA guy and the spacer guy


The guide says there is seven endings but if you look closely there is only 4, some of the endings are the same just different based on how earth and the galaxy fare, so the see them as different endings. You have destroy reapers, merge with reapers and control the reapers thats it.

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Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

The best ending is now get Wrex and Captain Kirahee killed in ME1 and pick your favourite character - Ashely or Kaiden to get killed, get as many of Shepard's crew killed in Mass Effect 2 by ignoring sidequests, kill the council. Don't reprogam the Geth in ME2.

Destroy the cure, destroy and shoot anyone you come accross to spare them this horrible fate. Ignore side quests and skrew up major story choices, go in with the lowest possible war assets you can so that as many people will be left on their homeworld as possible and ignore sidequests.

Pick the destroy ending so that the survivors won't be forced against their will to become something they don't want to be and hope for the best / let someone else deal with the AI singularity problem in the future. Hopefully the Normandy crew will all mostly die from the crash.

You'll still get that same destroy ending but Earth will be devestated but at least it'll be humane


So basically the actions of any character living just before the age of Cthulhu.