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#10826
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 Ok can someone clear this up? In order to get a GAW of 5000 I HAVE to play MP? I can't get it playing the SP thoroughly?

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albertalad wrote...

NO matter what anyone say what's out there now with BW in nothing short of idiocy. The cut scene garbage is even more amateurish leading to absolutely no resolution what so ever. Moreover the "reason" created for the Reapers was to kill us to save organics from synthetics by the very definitions of synthetics themselves. Yes, that computes like a hole in the head.


You're not trying to understand it... so of course you're not going to.

It makes perfect sense if you look at in perspective and not from some ridiculous thought.

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blueruin wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...


There is hope for our crew forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php

Page 194 look for a poster by the name of Buddy Holly and scroll over his blacked out text.

Contains spoilers Obv.

I fail to see how that helps. Basically it's just records of the galaxy, a VI, that future generations may use just in case something happens. How does that help the crew?


People were flipping out about a Normandy incest/inbred colony (lolol) wherever they crash landed, resulting in the old man and the child epilogue.

He's saying that the Epilogue could be a reference to Liara's time capsules. 

Sure - then I wonder WHY none of those who played the Space Edition stumbled across the what so ever?

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Did someone seriously just say they've removed investigate?

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Aesieru wrote...

wolf99000 wrote...

Warhawk137 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

LookingGlass93 wrote...

I was prepared to be forced to see Shepard have to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the galaxy. I wouldn't have liked it but I was prepared for it. I was even prepared to see the Normandy and crew die, or Earth be a devastated ruin. I wasn't prepared for what they did to the galactic civilization.


The ending makes me feel like everything Shepard and co. did, all they sacrificed, was for nothing. These endings don't count as victory. It's just trading one horrible fate (the Reapers) for another one (the collapse of civilization)


Actually, not true.

If you understood any of the plot built up between ME 1, 2, and I assume 3, then you would see that doing away with the Reapers we can't even understand is a good choice because it allows us to diverge and advance on our own means, that being said, there are some choices that could result in the relays being rebuilt in a convenient point of time.

Galactic civilization is removed from the prison of the relays and the Reapers with each ending.

Actually there is a relay aready on Ilos granted to works one way however it is still a relay so the vast majority of the relay work has been accomplish and is still there on Ilos!


But we don't understand it, don't ever use something you don't understand, you'll get lazy, as the Reapers showed with their own relay trap.


What does that even mean?

The Protheans understood how the relays worked, they just didn't understand that the Citadel itself was a

massive relay.  There's no reason we couldn't just build some new ones the right way.

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well liaras dad did say she tried to talk the asari into building more relays so it must be possible to do it or why even have her say that


The bartender Asari is not Liara's dad.

And according to the lore, the comm buoys are already just primative mass relays that we built.  It's not like we're lacking too much in terms of the concept. 


actually in Lair of the Shadow broker you can watch videos in the shadow broker's base one of which shows the eternity bartender looking at a picture of Liara holding it in the same way a parent who misses their kid would. That and she even says that she had a pure blood child and that she was the father. It isn't explicitly said but its heavily implied that the bartender is Liara's "dad"

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albertalad wrote...

blueruin wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...


There is hope for our crew forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php

Page 194 look for a poster by the name of Buddy Holly and scroll over his blacked out text.

Contains spoilers Obv.

I fail to see how that helps. Basically it's just records of the galaxy, a VI, that future generations may use just in case something happens. How does that help the crew?


People were flipping out about a Normandy incest/inbred colony (lolol) wherever they crash landed, resulting in the old man and the child epilogue.

He's saying that the Epilogue could be a reference to Liara's time capsules. 

Sure - then I wonder WHY none of those who played the Space Edition stumbled across the what so ever?


Perhaps they didn't think it might be important?

It's a long game.  The space edition people aren't exactly transcribing it word-for-word.  It sounds like the theory here is based on dialogue that could easily be mistaken for something that's not very relevant.

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More food for thought...I just downloaded and tried to run the demo on my laptop, which does not have a gaming graphics card. It played the intro scene fine with Shepard and the Committee until the point where it says "London HQ has a visual" and then it crashes the computer where it would show the multiple screens of London getting whacked. Point is, I wonder if at that point it doesn't switch from using game engine graphics to using file graphics - which means it could be very possible to have additional endings using the game engine as opposed to needing to park them in files.

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Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

Did someone seriously just say they've removed investigate?


Yeah I'm confused about what people said. Isn't the streamlined dialouge choices for Action only? If not, I'm going to flip s***.

#10834
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I never knew this, nor did I hear that or ever consider it.

Well, Aria is Wrex's Asari Commando (Aleena) friend so I guess another similarity makes sense that I had to think about a lot.

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The point is was trying to make is that the old man may not be a decendant of the normadys crew just some normal dude who saw some of the data.

Mainly gives people room to head cannon a happy ending for your crew.

Modifié par HairyMadDog1010, 04 mars 2012 - 05:23 .


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albertalad wrote...

blueruin wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...


There is hope for our crew forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php

Page 194 look for a poster by the name of Buddy Holly and scroll over his blacked out text.

Contains spoilers Obv.

I fail to see how that helps. Basically it's just records of the galaxy, a VI, that future generations may use just in case something happens. How does that help the crew?


People were flipping out about a Normandy incest/inbred colony (lolol) wherever they crash landed, resulting in the old man and the child epilogue.

He's saying that the Epilogue could be a reference to Liara's time capsules. 

Sure - then I wonder WHY none of those who played the Space Edition stumbled across the what so ever?


I bet this is the bonus intel from that damned fish.

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blueruin wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...


There is hope for our crew forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php

Page 194 look for a poster by the name of Buddy Holly and scroll over his blacked out text.

Contains spoilers Obv.

I fail to see how that helps. Basically it's just records of the galaxy, a VI, that future generations may use just in case something happens. How does that help the crew?


People were flipping out about a Normandy incest/inbred colony (lolol) wherever they crash landed, resulting in the old man and the child epilogue.

He's saying that the Epilogue could be a reference to Liara's time capsules. 


The problem is that the Normandy crashlands on a moon that is pretty much identical to the one shown in the epilogue.  So even if they WERE trying to imply this was the time capsules, they fail for that reason ;p

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Aesieru wrote...

albertalad wrote...

NO matter what anyone say what's out there now with BW in nothing short of idiocy. The cut scene garbage is even more amateurish leading to absolutely no resolution what so ever. Moreover the "reason" created for the Reapers was to kill us to save organics from synthetics by the very definitions of synthetics themselves. Yes, that computes like a hole in the head.


You're not trying to understand it... so of course you're not going to.

It makes perfect sense if you look at in perspective and not from some ridiculous thought.

Right, you can make all the sense out of this then more power to YOU. None of that affect me however. That's dumb beyond the need for insanity wards. Idiotic beyond comphersion murdering trillions, destroying untold multi tirillions of lives over the millions of years - r-i-g-h-t! That makes perfect sense in a horrible nightmare. That doesn't even qualify as artsy - just plain dumb!

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wicked_being wrote...

albertalad wrote...

blueruin wrote...

wicked_being wrote...

HairyMadDog1010 wrote...


There is hope for our crew forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php

Page 194 look for a poster by the name of Buddy Holly and scroll over his blacked out text.

Contains spoilers Obv.

I fail to see how that helps. Basically it's just records of the galaxy, a VI, that future generations may use just in case something happens. How does that help the crew?


People were flipping out about a Normandy incest/inbred colony (lolol) wherever they crash landed, resulting in the old man and the child epilogue.

He's saying that the Epilogue could be a reference to Liara's time capsules. 

Sure - then I wonder WHY none of those who played the Space Edition stumbled across the what so ever?


I bet this is the bonus intel from that damned fish.


lol that would be funny, to spend the first playthrough baffled by the Epilogue thinking about incest, then make the connection at the end of your second game.

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albertalad wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

albertalad wrote...

NO matter what anyone say what's out there now with BW in nothing short of idiocy. The cut scene garbage is even more amateurish leading to absolutely no resolution what so ever. Moreover the "reason" created for the Reapers was to kill us to save organics from synthetics by the very definitions of synthetics themselves. Yes, that computes like a hole in the head.


You're not trying to understand it... so of course you're not going to.

It makes perfect sense if you look at in perspective and not from some ridiculous thought.

Right, you can make all the sense out of this then more power to YOU. None of that affect me however. That's dumb beyond the need for insanity wards. Idiotic beyond comphersion murdering trillions, destroying untold multi tirillions of lives over the millions of years - r-i-g-h-t! That makes perfect sense in a horrible nightmare. That doesn't even qualify as artsy - just plain dumb!


To prevent life from ceasing as we know it? A necessity.

A technological singularity when properly understood is something inevitable and deadly to a perfect extreme.

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 Link contains some  of Liara lines one of them mentions the capsules. http://dana-duchovny...740.html#cutid1

Modifié par HairyMadDog1010, 04 mars 2012 - 05:28 .


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HairyMadDog1010 wrote...

 Link contains some  of Liara lines one of them mentions the capsules. http://dana-duchovny...740.html#cutid1


I was really enjoying that and then I had to stop myself.  Too many fkn spoilers already.  <_<

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does anybody get the feeling that the impending doom of the "poor" ME3 endings is just like the feeling of impending doom of the reaper invasion in mass effect 1?

#10844
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Aesieru wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

albertalad wrote...

NO matter what anyone say what's out there now with BW in nothing short of idiocy. The cut scene garbage is even more amateurish leading to absolutely no resolution what so ever. Moreover the "reason" created for the Reapers was to kill us to save organics from synthetics by the very definitions of synthetics themselves. Yes, that computes like a hole in the head.


You're not trying to understand it... so of course you're not going to.

It makes perfect sense if you look at in perspective and not from some ridiculous thought.

Right, you can make all the sense out of this then more power to YOU. None of that affect me however. That's dumb beyond the need for insanity wards. Idiotic beyond comphersion murdering trillions, destroying untold multi tirillions of lives over the millions of years - r-i-g-h-t! That makes perfect sense in a horrible nightmare. That doesn't even qualify as artsy - just plain dumb!


To prevent life from ceasing as we know it? A necessity.

A technological singularity when properly understood is something inevitable and deadly to a perfect extreme.

Man did you swallow the cool aid - Reaper ARE that singularity. Moreover, suddenly we get this singularity dumped on us, manifactured for the sake of manifacturing even more stupidity, sure that makes as much sense as the Christmas Tree light selection of your choice to go to hell!

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blooregard wrote...

does anybody get the feeling that the impending doom of the "poor" ME3 endings is just like the feeling of impending doom of the reaper invasion in mass effect 1?


Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3 were a cage, designed to emotionally trap you and attach you to the universe so you would
be easily shoe horned into an ending and crushed at the end.

The franchise was a reaper.

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albertalad wrote...

Man did you swallow the cool aid - Reaper ARE that singularity. Moreover, suddenly we get this singularity dumped on us, manifactured for the sake of manifacturing even more stupidity, sure that makes as much sense as the Christmas Tree light selection of your choice to go to hell!


If the reapers were that tech singularity, no organic life would have existed for the past however many (37?) million years.

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If it hasn't been posted here yet:

If some of you *still* think this is a good way to end the greatest Sci-Fi game series in recent memory, I just don't know what to say. Even if you like or want a tragic ending, this isn't even the way to do it. It's like they watched The Matrix: Revolutions, BSG, and Lost and took nothing good from from any of them.

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blueruin wrote...

albertalad wrote...

Man did you swallow the cool aid - Reaper ARE that singularity. Moreover, suddenly we get this singularity dumped on us, manifactured for the sake of manifacturing even more stupidity, sure that makes as much sense as the Christmas Tree light selection of your choice to go to hell!


If the reapers were that tech singularity, no organic life would have existed for the past however many (37?) million years.

They didn't - they were wiped out.

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Pr3ying M4nt15 360 wrote...

The franchise was a reaper.


I lol'd

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So is that a yes then?