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Tazzmission wrote...


listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win


You have a lot of growing up to do, in more ways than one.

I don't play video games to be reminded that life can be a depressing ride that ends in death. I play it to escape that reality, instead of hammering it home that everything we do in life ultimately results in our own end. Fantasy, even more so, because in fantasy, and in the first 2 games of the series, you overcome the odds. That's what I like. I don't need an artsy contrived ending to tell me life isn't always happy.

If you are a "gamer about story", how can you possibly think, even without a happy ending, that this is good writing or a solid resolution? Are you seriously defending the Guardian scenario?

And, finally, if you don't want to see the hero win, you could have picked your grimdark ending, and I could have picked my happier one. As it stands, we'll both be picking the same thing.

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Oh, the ending is a tragedy all right.

Just not that kind of tragedy.

More of a comedy really.

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Rob_K1 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

Where are people getting information abouut the normandy crew getting stranded and what not.

I've read the leaked script and it was a pretty basic and general outline of how the ending plays out . Their were really no details on the status of your squadmates and LI's. Sorry if I'm 200 pages behind.

A user named Xoisite has played the space edition game. He took pictures of the Normandy crashed landed on a planet that had lots of plants, kinda like Jurassic Park. According to him, other ships crashed on that same planet.


Will this at least satisfy people 'somewhat'?


No because this is BSN folks. :whistle:

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Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

your attitude about it is saying it.

you again call me out for being friends with chris ok fine so what? ever stop to think that maybve unlike the rest of this board i actually respect the devs despite my feelings on the endings?


seriously grow up



I am meerly offended that you're glad there isn't a happy ending, because people would complain if there was one.


listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win

I'm sorry, but I need to step out of my Civil Mode for this.

****. That. I am paying over $100 for the CE and Game Guide. Life IS about choices, about your choices can easily make good ones if you stop and think of the consequences. I'm not paying $100 for a ****ing game to teach me a goddamn lesson. If I wanted a ****ing life lesson, I'll shut off my console and turn on the damn news. I buy games to escape this ****ty reality. I escape into them and I'll come out happy as a fat kid with cake. 

Ruin it for you? If you're so sick and tired of people just WANTING a ****ing damn good endings in a game where Shepard is the ****ing Space Jesus and reality and physics is thrown out the dan window, then leave. No one is keeping you here. All we want is a ****ing ending where Shepard is with his crew. Is that so ****ing hard to ask? No. 

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the option for the game to have both kind of endings was always on the table Tazz

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Tazzmission wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

Where are people getting information abouut the normandy crew getting stranded and what not.

I've read the leaked script and it was a pretty basic and general outline of how the ending plays out . Their were really no details on the status of your squadmates and LI's. Sorry if I'm 200 pages behind.

A user named Xoisite has played the space edition game. He took pictures of the Normandy crashed landed on a planet that had lots of plants, kinda like Jurassic Park. According to him, other ships crashed on that same planet.


Will this at least satisfy people 'somewhat'?


and like i said no matter who posts what people are still gona complain regarding the normandy deal

im fine with it because it leaves open to interpretation for the fans


the reviews have constantly said that the game doesn't leave any questions open when you finish. I still don't think the ending has been fully explained. I haven't heard much about the squad you take with you on the final assult. I just know that they die if your war asset score is too low.

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Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

your attitude about it is saying it.

you again call me out for being friends with chris ok fine so what? ever stop to think that maybve unlike the rest of this board i actually respect the devs despite my feelings on the endings?


seriously grow up



I am meerly offended that you're glad there isn't a happy ending, because people would complain if there was one.


listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win


Are you serious? I'm not paying $80 for a life lesson. This is a Space Fantasy game. Do you understand fantasy? It means it's not real life. It ruins the replayability I've played DA:O and ME1/2 more than any other game and having such a downer of an ending won't be fun to watch again. Well the reapers don't win so I don't know what you're talking about. And fine you can have you're ending I should be able to have mine.


then fine dont buy it but dont ruin it for the other people who do like tragedies.




How am I ruining it? You're the one who walked into this forum. lol

Why would ME1/2 be happy triumphant stories and then ME3 turns the whole series into a tragedy?

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crimzontearz wrote...

Elegana wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Elegana wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Elegana wrote...

Phoenix-Warden wrote...Wow, over 10000 posts and 67000 views and BioWare still not react? What's wrong with you BW? o.OThey've reacted... through twitter. I'm aware of one dev saying (paraphasing): "they shouldn't believe what's on the forums. Play the game".Plus, it's smart for them to not say anything so close to launch day. If they confirm these endings, people will be pissed and cancel their pre-orders. If they deny it, people won't believe them and cause confusion as to why the leaked endings aren't the real ones.  so either they are liars or deceiverslovely

You made my point.

prove me wrong then

I'm not going to or try. That isn't my intention. I'm not BioWare. You simply proved my point that even if BioWare came out and said anything, people aren't going to believe them or they'll be pissed off about being lied to. 






but it is, in a literal sense, the truth....

The truth is, or the truth you have successfully proven, is that people are going to be pissed regardlessly. 

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crimzontearz wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Tazzmission wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Tazz I am glad you are happymany others are notIf the endings were amended I would only have one single reason to complain....im just sick of all the complaining about it and how these so called fans say they speak for everyoneno one speaks for me other than meif that makes me a drone  fine w/e but at least i dont sit on this board with a tinfoil hat on crying conspiraceyim not talking about you tears but i am talking about the ones who just want this game to basicly failseriously the vibe i get from thes epeople is if they want it to fail badly

I understandand my complain would be purely game play related too but these endings threaten to turn ME3 in a 1 play through game for medo you understand that?

and thats fine for you but your more of a rational poster then alot of these guysi may of despized me2's human reaper battle but i still playe dit 60 timesim gona do the same with me3 and maybe even more then 60









So....the other irrational posters are whiners and hypocrites and it is OK for them to suffer the ruining of their favorite series








so....what about those like me? are you still glad when a their day is a little less cheerful because the just cannot replay the ending to their favorite franchise?


im saying your more rational because you dont jump right out with personal attacks.


all im saying is the source everyone keeps talking about regarding the space copy might be holding something back do to a nda.

i think that is what is causing people to be in such a uproar

i say this because another poster brought up the whole normandy escaping to the charon relay deal and i started thinking

what if the same guy who posted the endings cant post how or why that happened let alone the citadel just boom appear by earth

and if my reply is wrong ok fine let me ask you this... why hasnt that same source posted about peoples concers publicly?

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Smecky Kitteh wrote...

the reviews have constantly said that the game doesn't leave any questions open when you finish. I still don't think the ending has been fully explained. I haven't heard much about the squad you take with you on the final assult. I just know that they die if your war asset score is too low.


Apparently, unless it's a bug, they get transported back to the Normandy, which is either a bug or an awful design oversight. It's also possible that they just aren't taking into considertion certain facts (dextro-based life) and asking the right questions.

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Tazzmission wrote...

and like i said no matter who posts what people are still gona complain regarding the normandy deal

im fine with it because it leaves open to interpretation for the fans


Since BW touted we'd have a definite ending with more answers than questions and it wouldn't be like Lost, etc.

Yeah, we'd have liked an epilogue's epilogue of sorts. What happened. Who lived. Who got screwed.

What did our choices do after the end?

Ending it like this and just "leaving it to the fans' interpretation" is... not good.

Tell us what happened afterwards.

Edit: As for NDA, you spoil the script and such, you've already broken it, there are no NDA stages.
"Oh right, spoil the endings, but don't tell them why they happened". Image IPB

Modifié par Ghost Rider LSOV, 04 mars 2012 - 03:12 .


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Smecky Kitteh wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

Where are people getting information abouut the normandy crew getting stranded and what not.

I've read the leaked script and it was a pretty basic and general outline of how the ending plays out . Their were really no details on the status of your squadmates and LI's. Sorry if I'm 200 pages behind.

A user named Xoisite has played the space edition game. He took pictures of the Normandy crashed landed on a planet that had lots of plants, kinda like Jurassic Park. According to him, other ships crashed on that same planet.


Will this at least satisfy people 'somewhat'?


and like i said no matter who posts what people are still gona complain regarding the normandy deal

im fine with it because it leaves open to interpretation for the fans


the reviews have constantly said that the game doesn't leave any questions open when you finish. I still don't think the ending has been fully explained. I haven't heard much about the squad you take with you on the final assult. I just know that they die if your war asset score is too low.



Yeah, and how does it tie everything up if there is no epilogue for the other species?

Modifié par DifferentD17, 04 mars 2012 - 03:11 .


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Oh their day is coming and its on Tuesday . I plan on playing it I want to see if there is any dam logic in this bull sh** game's story

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It Should not suddenly be a tragedy it should have the good/middlel/tragic ending Mass Effect 3 is hyped as being all about choice. We will see on the 6th I hope that we do not yet have the whole picture.

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DragonRageGT wrote...

I definitely don't mind having a good ending which can light up my spirit instead of depressing me because the saga has ended. I don't mind the bittersweet endings as well, or even the plain bitter ones.

But when I think of all the people expecting blue babies or Tali's face showing for the kiss at her marriage cerimony, it breaks my heart. I can feel their pain. I do empathize. I do not suffer though. Pain is unavoidable, suffering is optional.

But .. but .. I demand all happy, bittersweet, tragedy, outrageous, cerberus, reaper's win, siding with the reapers and apathetic Endings, NOW!

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Tazzmission wrote...



im saying your more rational because you dont jump right out with personal attacks.


all im saying is the source everyone keeps talking about regarding the space copy might be holding something back do to a nda.

i think that is what is causing people to be in such a uproar

i say this because another poster brought up the whole normandy escaping to the charon relay deal and i started thinking

what if the same guy who posted the endings cant post how or why that happened let alone the citadel just boom appear by earth

and if my reply is wrong ok fine let me ask you this... why hasnt that same source posted about peoples concers publicly?


It's no longer just Xoi posting these leaks, and it hasn't been for some time. 

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Elegana wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Elegana wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Elegana wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...Elegana wrote...

Phoenix-Warden wrote...Wow, over 10000 posts and 67000 views and BioWare still not react? What's wrong with you BW? o.OThey've reacted... through twitter. I'm aware of one dev saying (paraphasing): "they shouldn't believe what's on the forums. Play the game".Plus, it's smart for them to not say anything so close to launch day. If they confirm these endings, people will be pissed and cancel their pre-orders. If they deny it, people won't believe them and cause confusion as to why the leaked endings aren't the real ones.  so either they are liars or deceiverslovelyYou made my point.

prove me wrong then

I'm not going to or try. That isn't my intention. I'm not BioWare. You simply proved my point that even if BioWare came out and said anything, people aren't going to believe them or they'll be pissed off about being lied to. 

but it is, in a literal sense, the truth....

The truth is, or the truth you have successfully proven, is that people are going to be pissed regardlessly. 



that assumes the lack of a valid reason tho

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pulled this out of an article right after the game went gold....hudson is talking about what the team is doing and about replaying....
Mass Effect 3 was presented as the third and final part of a trilogy, so what is next in the Mass Effect universe?

We are going to be supporting Mass Effect 3 for quite some time, because I think people are going to have a lot of fun with multiplayer, and we'll be supporting that with new content as we go forward. We also have a really good DLC plan, like we had for Mass Effect 2, so there will be new adventures and new things to do. Then, beyond that, we'll just have to wait and see.

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Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

your attitude about it is saying it.

you again call me out for being friends with chris ok fine so what? ever stop to think that maybve unlike the rest of this board i actually respect the devs despite my feelings on the endings?


seriously grow up



I am meerly offended that you're glad there isn't a happy ending, because people would complain if there was one.


listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win


Are you serious? I'm not paying $80 for a life lesson. This is a Space Fantasy game. Do you understand fantasy? It means it's not real life. It ruins the replayability I've played DA:O and ME1/2 more than any other game and having such a downer of an ending won't be fun to watch again. Well the reapers don't win so I don't know what you're talking about. And fine you can have you're ending I should be able to have mine.


then fine dont buy it but dont ruin it for the other people who do like tragedies.


And you´ll have your tragedy. If you wanted you could pull a Dirty Dozen ending in the SM too. Those of us who don´t like them won´t have the choice, and the tone of the series so far didn´t point all endings being like that at all.

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Smecky Kitteh wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...

Where are people getting information abouut the normandy crew getting stranded and what not.

I've read the leaked script and it was a pretty basic and general outline of how the ending plays out . Their were really no details on the status of your squadmates and LI's. Sorry if I'm 200 pages behind.

A user named Xoisite has played the space edition game. He took pictures of the Normandy crashed landed on a planet that had lots of plants, kinda like Jurassic Park. According to him, other ships crashed on that same planet.


Will this at least satisfy people 'somewhat'?


and like i said no matter who posts what people are still gona complain regarding the normandy deal

im fine with it because it leaves open to interpretation for the fans


the reviews have constantly said that the game doesn't leave any questions open when you finish. I still don't think the ending has been fully explained. I haven't heard much about the squad you take with you on the final assult. I just know that they die if your war asset score is too low.



i still think shepard alive ending and the whole crew deal will be one dlc in the future but of course as usual people tend to fear mongor and think the worst

i as a rational person have a hard time believing bioware will just kill off a iconic charachter and fan favorite charachters knowing they have merchandise coming out to sell based on them

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Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

your attitude about it is saying it.

you again call me out for being friends with chris ok fine so what? ever stop to think that maybve unlike the rest of this board i actually respect the devs despite my feelings on the endings?


seriously grow up



I am meerly offended that you're glad there isn't a happy ending, because people would complain if there was one.


listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win


Are you serious? I'm not paying $80 for a life lesson. This is a Space Fantasy game. Do you understand fantasy? It means it's not real life. It ruins the replayability I've played DA:O and ME1/2 more than any other game and having such a downer of an ending won't be fun to watch again. Well the reapers don't win so I don't know what you're talking about. And fine you can have you're ending I should be able to have mine.


then fine dont buy it but dont ruin it for the other people who do like tragedies.




There is one way of looking at this:

FTL drives would reportedly allow people to travel the galaxy in around 20 - 30 years.

Tank has said he didn't get the impression that the Normandy was stranded.

A Gamefaqs user if legit has said the endings are not what we think.

Xoisite has stated that other ships have crashed on the same planet.

There is nothing to say that the possibility of ever meeting up again is entirely out of the question. Do we even know how far away the planet they land on is, as well?

And lastly, while there wouldn't be anywhere near as many complaints, Tazz is indeed right (I think Tazz said it) that people would complain if there was a happy ending availiable. If there is one thing being on game forums and sites has taught me, it's that people will complain about absolutely anything.

That said, there is nothing wrong with including a happy ending. And no, I do not mean to drag it on, though it would indeed be dragged on even without me posting here.

Modifié par Rob_K1, 04 mars 2012 - 03:14 .


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i'll take that to mean, we planned on people being p-o'ed and have a dlc plan

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mulder1199 wrote...

pulled this out of an article right after the game went gold....hudson is talking about what the team is doing and about replaying....
Mass Effect 3 was presented as the third and final part of a trilogy, so what is next in the Mass Effect universe?

We are going to be supporting Mass Effect 3 for quite some time, because I think people are going to have a lot of fun with multiplayer, and we'll be supporting that with new content as we go forward. We also have a really good DLC plan, like we had for Mass Effect 2, so there will be new adventures and new things to do. Then, beyond that, we'll just have to wait and see.


If we're going by articles, they also said there'd be no post-game DLC. At this point, really anything they've claimed is now suspect, but given how a resume saved game works after completing the main mission, I believe it.

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Tazzmission wrote...


i still think shepard alive ending and the whole crew deal will be one dlc in the future but of course as usual people tend to fear mongor and think the worst

i as a rational person have a hard time believing bioware will just kill off a iconic charachter and fan favorite charachters knowing they have merchandise coming out to sell based on them


Do you seriously see nothing wrong with them cutting an important factoid like that out and selling it later? 

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Elegana wrote...

I'm sorry, but I need to step out of my Civil Mode for this.

****. That. I am paying over $100 for the CE and Game Guide. Life IS about choices, about your choices can easily make good ones if you stop and think of the consequences. I'm not paying $100 for a ****ing game to teach me a goddamn lesson. If I wanted a ****ing life lesson, I'll shut off my console and turn on the damn news. I buy games to escape this ****ty reality. I escape into them and I'll come out happy as a fat kid with cake. 

Ruin it for you? If you're so sick and tired of people just WANTING a ****ing damn good endings in a game where Shepard is the ****ing Space Jesus and reality and physics is thrown out the dan window, then leave. No one is keeping you here. All we want is a ****ing ending where Shepard is with his crew. Is that so ****ing hard to ask? No. 


*claps* Well said.