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[WOLF_00]

Are you sure about this Ending? I mean the game hasn't released yet, how could you know this is the only ending available?

But If that was the only ending I will be disappointed because I have +25 saves of ME2 and I imported them all from original ME1. Does that show how do Bioware treat her loyal fans??

I am not writing anything regarding the game ending until the game releases!

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

GBGriffin wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...


hahaha, if that's their DLC plan they won't get my cash....i don't buy extra guns or a new pair of slacks for shep either...

What about an alternate appearance pack for your magically transported squad?

hahahahaha....maybe i can buy them an engine part from xbox live and they'll get off that backwater planet

I can see it now:

"1200 MS points: Buy a better engine that allows Joker to outrun the Mass Relay explosion!"

*sigh*

Nah, even if he outruns the blast, he's still far away.

We need a "Don't even go close to the Mass Relay" DLC.

[Elegana]

GBGriffin wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Kveki wrote...

I haven't read the script or spoiled endings too much...But don't you guys think that day one patch might be 2-3 extra cut-scenes..?

Srsly how many of you played the game and are sure how it ends?
And how many of you seriously think that the guys that played it had enough time to play it perfectly and several times?
And did they play with imported characters?

There are so many specultions and the game is not out jet,just wait for it to launch and see what happens...And if they are about to make DLCs how the **** will we play them if ending is like fallout 3?
It just isn't Bioware's style...Maybe I am wrong but just ask yourself these few questions

Probably not seeing that the PC patch is 256mb, the PS3 patch is 16mb, and no patch (so far) for the 360.

The main sources are Xoisite who has played the space edition twice and Tank and several others who have played the game. Xoisite has had the game for over a week, I believe. He managed to get the best endings. Xoisite did play with an imported character that has both ME1 and ME2 on the save. 

There's also another space edition player on the boards and I think someone is doing a streaming ME3 playthrough in the spoiler group.

And that's if you needed any more evidence than what's already been presented (which, I guess some do...)

Streaming already? Dang, that was fast.

[DragonRageGT]

Kveki wrote...

I haven't read the script or spoiled endings too much...But don't you guys think that day one patch might be 2-3 extra cut-scenes..?

Srsly how many of you played the game and are sure how it ends?
And how many of you seriously think that the guys that played it had enough time to play it perfectly and several times?
And did they play with imported characters?

There are so many specultions and the game is not out jet,just wait for it to launch and see what happens...And if they are about to make DLCs how the **** will we play them if ending is like fallout 3?
It just isn't Bioware's style...Maybe I am wrong but just ask yourself these few questions

Considering that the largest Bink video file in ME3 is around 112MB and has nothing to do with the endings, while the endings Bink range from 30 MB to 108 MB, it is well possible that the patch contains a number of cutscenes indeed. *cross fingers*

Of course being able to have a nice ending of my choice would be better than all endings leading to the same ****hole. At least I could play all endings knowing that I can choose to replay for the happy one. And I don't care if they retcon it for the MMO. I don't play MMOs.

[GBGriffin]

WOLF_00 wrote...

Are you sure about this Ending? I mean the game hasn't released yet, how could you know this is the only ending available?

But If that was the only ending I will be disappointed because I have +25 saves of ME2 and I imported them all from original ME1. Does that show how do Bioware treat her loyal fans??

I am not writing anything regarding the game ending until the game releases!

Someone should put together a compiled list of all the leaks so that newcomers can just click it and save themselves some time. I call "not it", though.

[WOLF_00]

GBGriffin wrote...

WOLF_00 wrote...

Are you sure about this Ending? I mean the game hasn't released yet, how could you know this is the only ending available?

But If that was the only ending I will be disappointed because I have +25 saves of ME2 and I imported them all from original ME1. Does that show how do Bioware treat her loyal fans??

I am not writing anything regarding the game ending until the game releases!

Someone should put together a compiled list of all the leaks so that newcomers can just click it and save themselves some time. I call "not it", though.

I read all ending leaks and can't believe all the time I spent playing this game ,,,,, was TOTAL waste! 

[Grand Wazoo]

WOLF_00 wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

WOLF_00 wrote...

Are you sure about this Ending? I mean the game hasn't released yet, how could you know this is the only ending available?

But If that was the only ending I will be disappointed because I have +25 saves of ME2 and I imported them all from original ME1. Does that show how do Bioware treat her loyal fans??

I am not writing anything regarding the game ending until the game releases!

Someone should put together a compiled list of all the leaks so that newcomers can just click it and save themselves some time. I call "not it", though.

I read all ending leaks and can't believe all the time I spent playing this game ,,,,, was TOTAL waste! 

DENIAL. Don't worry, you'll get over it. Or not.

[ratzerman]

I keep almost reaching acceptance, then falling all the way back to denial.

It's like the worst game of Candy Land ever. Or Chutes & Ladders.

[TheDaaave]

Like a child building a beautiful sand castle on the beach just to destroy it when it's done. Bioware must really really hate the universe they built. And they call this 'closure'. Not only would I have not been able to play this like all my other games on Steam. No, as a special thanks from some hack, I would have also had to sit through this. Just sad.

[Nerevar-as]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Been thinking... (whoah! )

But, remember how "talk with Anderson" lowers the EMS for Shepard to be alive?

And he tells him (didn't listen to the FemShep dialogue, but I guess it's the same) he'd make a great father and such.
This makes you feel better and that you'll make it with your LI.
I still suspect something could happen (Expansion?) but I don't know how... and we'll get our "good" ending.

Yeah, I still hope...

The conversation is worth losing EMS.

Anyone knows if EMS has a plot reason to work? Because on paper it looks quite arbitrary, especially Shepard surviving seems to involve going through a explosion, reentry, and crash from orbit.

[GBGriffin]

ratzerman wrote...

I keep almost reaching acceptance, then falling all the way back to denial.

It's like the worst game of Candy Land ever. Or Chutes & Ladders.

Both of those games appeal to me more than ME3 at this point. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

Armass81 wrote...

I dont think lots of people get this. They want status quo, they want the things to stay as they were, stagnant galaxy abusing someone elses tech forever, no innovation of their own. Stupidest are the people who thing that spaceflight is out of the picture forever. It isnt. Species can look to their own paths now, at their own pace. The mass relays were a symbol of thralldom to the reapers and their tech. No we have a chance to make our own paths.

So what would be wrong with using the mass relays once the Reapers were destroyed? 

If a foreign power conquered your country for 50 years and happened to build a great network of passenger trains linking all your cities, would you tear up the rails and scrap the locomotives once you managed to drive the invaders out? 

[Goose1004]

Elegana wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Elegana wrote...

Kveki wrote...

I haven't read the script or spoiled endings too much...But don't you guys think that day one patch might be 2-3 extra cut-scenes..?

Srsly how many of you played the game and are sure how it ends?
And how many of you seriously think that the guys that played it had enough time to play it perfectly and several times?
And did they play with imported characters?

There are so many specultions and the game is not out jet,just wait for it to launch and see what happens...And if they are about to make DLCs how the **** will we play them if ending is like fallout 3?
It just isn't Bioware's style...Maybe I am wrong but just ask yourself these few questions

Probably not seeing that the PC patch is 256mb, the PS3 patch is 16mb, and no patch (so far) for the 360.

The main sources are Xoisite who has played the space edition twice and Tank and several others who have played the game. Xoisite has had the game for over a week, I believe. He managed to get the best endings. Xoisite did play with an imported character that has both ME1 and ME2 on the save. 

There's also another space edition player on the boards and I think someone is doing a streaming ME3 playthrough in the spoiler group.

And that's if you needed any more evidence than what's already been presented (which, I guess some do...)

Streaming already? Dang, that was fast.

There were multiple people streaming yesterday.

[_Martyr_]

I kinda raged last evening so i'd like to apologize to CBGriffin first.
(yeah, i got spoilered by thread titles, not by reading the script and stuff, i'm in the "player that knew nothing and suddenly got caught in a ****storm" category)

Now, i've got 2 questions that need answers:

-SE copies are only X360?
-Day One Patch for X360 is as big as the pc version?

My two cents on this topic:

I'm convinced that some data didn't get mined and that BW knew that the SE owners just couldn't resist to reveal something.

The day-1 patch is weird too, in every other game/franchise the community knows what's going to be fixed and an eventual changelog. This seems not to be the case.
Day1 patch info was revealed 4-5 days ago, just after the youtube leaks and Libya-like fan reaction.
Plus it has been said that some content "was already present in-game and just needed activation"
My guesses on this are:

-the staff read all this ragethreads/posts and realized: osh- backup plan, let's get some endings back +bugfixes
-it IS a fix patch, but unlocks the "secret legen...waitforit...dary NG+ ending"

Patch is 256 mb for Xbox and PC as far as i know, PS3 is 16mb because it's on blu-ray: way smaller for better textures, way bigger for simple bugfixes.

Terastar wrote...

How is it ruined by having a happy ending with your LI as long as their is your tragedy ending for those that want that ending? That is all that most people are asking. The option for the good happy ending with Li and you can have all the bad endings you want. This is choice not a must way to play your game.

Exactly.

Still, idk, we'll just wait and see.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Kanmuru wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Perfect, so you agree with me that the galaxy isn't ****ed forever. There will be growth, it will be hard but now the galatic comunnity can grow on its own achievments, they might make new relays or discover new methods of fast travel. How is that a bad ending? Imo its a really good one, i prefer independence and self determination over being slaves of alien technology (just like Liara's father, the wisest asari ever)

Independent advancement is going to be PRETTY hard without the ability to quickly travel to other star systems.

"Slave to alien technology"? What? Do you know how common it is today for someone to use a product or appliance made from a foreign country? Just because you're using something made from someone else doesn't mean you can't think for yourself, it just means that someone else beat you to it. Only an idiot would try to beat themselves up by ignoring beneficial technologies developed by another race/species.

ever hear of FTL? in ME2 you can go to nearby systems by using normal fuel. A guy here in the forums said you can cross the entire galaxy in 27 years of flying, its really hard but its NOT the end of space travel.

The end of mass relays is like the end of Airplanes would be for us. Things would become very dificult, but now there is hope for independent growth and inovation. No more dependant on reapers or protean tech to improve our lives, now WE need to work harder for a better future 

Because of course no generation or people was ever able to benefit from the work of others without becoming their "slaves" in real history.  [/sarcasm]

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Been thinking... (whoah! )

But, remember how "talk with Anderson" lowers the EMS for Shepard to be alive?

And he tells him (didn't listen to the FemShep dialogue, but I guess it's the same) he'd make a great father and such.
This makes you feel better and that you'll make it with your LI.
I still suspect something could happen (Expansion?) but I don't know how... and we'll get our "good" ending.

Yeah, I still hope...

The conversation is worth losing EMS.

Anyone knows if EMS has a plot reason to work? Because on paper it looks quite arbitrary, especially Shepard surviving seems to involve going through a explosion, reentry, and crash from orbit.

Clarifying: Lowering the EMS for Shepard to be alive, not losing EMS.

If you don't talk to him, you need 5000. If you talk to him, you need 4000. You don't lose EMS.

And how Shepard survives... I don't know. You'd think all that + the beam that destroys synthetics (and the guardian mentions Shepard is part-synthetic probably from the rebuild) would well... not leave much.

But then again, it's Shepard. Made of Iron. 

[TUHD]

*so hopes _Martyr_ is right*
SE copies are X360 only, sadly enough.

[Goose1004]

Don't jump Tali!

[Broder O]

You know looking at some of the vids of leaked gameplay and cutscenes, I'm even morw worried about the fact that I haven't seen evidence of a single, repeat NOT A SINGLE, conversation with more than two options..

I will now go sit in a corner and cry.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Broder O wrote...

You know looking at some of the vids of leaked gameplay and cutscenes, I'm even morw worried about the fact that I haven't seen evidence of a single, repeat NOT A SINGLE, conversation with more than two options..

I will now go sit in a corner and cry.

Remember, they have an option that makes it into a pure action game, with no conversation choices.  It's pretty clear where they're going with their games. 

[Elegana]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Been thinking... (whoah! )

But, remember how "talk with Anderson" lowers the EMS for Shepard to be alive?

And he tells him (didn't listen to the FemShep dialogue, but I guess it's the same) he'd make a great father and such.
This makes you feel better and that you'll make it with your LI.
I still suspect something could happen (Expansion?) but I don't know how... and we'll get our "good" ending.

Yeah, I still hope...

The conversation is worth losing EMS.

Anyone knows if EMS has a plot reason to work? Because on paper it looks quite arbitrary, especially Shepard surviving seems to involve going through a explosion, reentry, and crash from orbit.

Clarifying: Lowering the EMS for Shepard to be alive, not losing EMS.

If you don't talk to him, you need 5000. If you talk to him, you need 4000. You don't lose EMS.

And how Shepard survives... I don't know. You'd think all that + the beam that destroys synthetics (and the guardian mentions Shepard is part-synthetic probably from the rebuild) would well... not leave much.

But then again, it's Shepard. Made of Iron. 

Do we know the criteria needed for Shepard to be alive? I know its 5000 or 4000 with the right choices. Do we know what these right choices are?

[GBGriffin]

_Martyr_ wrote...

I kinda raged last evening so i'd like to apologize to CBGriffin first.
(yeah, i got spoilered by thread titles, not by reading the script and stuff, i'm in the "player that knew nothing and suddenly got caught in a ****storm" category)

Now, i've got 2 questions that need answers:

-SE copies are only X360?
-Day One Patch for X360 is as big as the pc version?

My two cents on this topic:

I'm convinced that some data didn't get mined and that BW knew that the SE owners just couldn't resist to reveal something.

The day-1 patch is weird too, in every other game/franchise the community knows what's going to be fixed and an eventual changelog. This seems not to be the case.
Day1 patch info was revealed 4-5 days ago, just after the youtube leaks and Libya-like fan reaction.
Plus it has been said that some content "was already present in-game and just needed activation"
My guesses on this are:

-the staff read all this ragethreads/posts and realized: osh- backup plan, let's get some endings back +bugfixes
-it IS a fix patch, but unlocks the "secret legen...waitforit...dary NG+ ending"

Patch is 256 mb for Xbox and PC as far as i know, PS3 is 16mb because it's on blu-ray: way smaller for better textures, way bigger for simple bugfixes.

Terastar wrote...

How is it ruined by having a happy ending with your LI as long as their is your tragedy ending for those that want that ending? That is all that most people are asking. The option for the good happy ending with Li and you can have all the bad endings you want. This is choice not a must way to play your game.

Exactly.

Still, idk, we'll just wait and see.

Honestly, it's fine. I don't hold it against you because the reality of the situation really sucks. =/

Someone on SA got a space edition copy of the PS3 version. I think one of the other SE players on the board who confirmed the 16MB patch size is also using a PS3 copy. Also, the patch data has already been patched into Origin copies and, I assume, the space editions now.

Again, faced with all of this, I think what you choose to believe has to come down to the following: DO you believe leaking bad endings was a marketing idea or an attempt to teach everyone a lesson about NDA/Piracy laws, or do you think they just released it as is, bad writing and all, just because they wanted to end their story?

Modifié par GBGriffin, 04 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[TUHD]

GBGriffin wrote...

_Martyr_ wrote...

I kinda raged last evening so i'd like to apologize to CBGriffin first.
(yeah, i got spoilered by thread titles, not by reading the script and stuff, i'm in the "player that knew nothing and suddenly got caught in a ****storm" category)

Now, i've got 2 questions that need answers:

-SE copies are only X360?
-Day One Patch for X360 is as big as the pc version?

My two cents on this topic:

I'm convinced that some data didn't get mined and that BW knew that the SE owners just couldn't resist to reveal something.

The day-1 patch is weird too, in every other game/franchise the community knows what's going to be fixed and an eventual changelog. This seems not to be the case.
Day1 patch info was revealed 4-5 days ago, just after the youtube leaks and Libya-like fan reaction.
Plus it has been said that some content "was already present in-game and just needed activation"
My guesses on this are:

-the staff read all this ragethreads/posts and realized: osh- backup plan, let's get some endings back +bugfixes
-it IS a fix patch, but unlocks the "secret legen...waitforit...dary NG+ ending"

Patch is 256 mb for Xbox and PC as far as i know, PS3 is 16mb because it's on blu-ray: way smaller for better textures, way bigger for simple bugfixes.

Terastar wrote...

How is it ruined by having a happy ending with your LI as long as their is your tragedy ending for those that want that ending? That is all that most people are asking. The option for the good happy ending with Li and you can have all the bad endings you want. This is choice not a must way to play your game.

Exactly.

Still, idk, we'll just wait and see.

Honestly, it's fine. I don't hold it against you because the reality of the situation really sucks. =/

Someone on SA got a space edition copy of the PS3 version. I think one of the other SE players on the board who confirmed the 16MB patch size is also using a PS3 copy. Also, the patch data has already been patched into Origin copies and, I assume, the space editions now.

Again, faced with all of this, I think what you choose to believe has to come down to the following: DO you believe leaking bad endings was a marketing idea or an attempt to teach everyone a lesson about NDA/Piracy laws, or do you think they just released it as is, bad writing and all, just because they wanted to end their story?

The former would be a kinda creepy idea, and would majorly backfire too.

[Killjoy Cutter]

GBGriffin wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win

You have a lot of growing up to do, in more ways than one.

I don't play video games to be reminded that life can be a depressing ride that ends in death. I play it to escape that reality, instead of hammering it home that everything we do in life ultimately results in our own end. Fantasy, even more so, because in fantasy, and in the first 2 games of the series, you overcome the odds. That's what I like. I don't need an artsy contrived ending to tell me life isn't always happy.

If you are a "gamer about story", how can you possibly think, even without a happy ending, that this is good writing or a solid resolution? Are you seriously defending the Guardian scenario?

And, finally, if you don't want to see the hero win, you could have picked your grimdark ending, and I could have picked my happier one. As it stands, we'll both be picking the same thing.

That sums it up. 

[madhatterwriter]

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

your attitude about it is saying it.

you again call me out for being friends with chris ok fine so what? ever stop to think that maybve unlike the rest of this board i actually respect the devs despite my feelings on the endings?


seriously grow up

I am meerly offended that you're glad there isn't a happy ending, because people would complain if there was one.

listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win

And life isn't about tragedy or misery either so you're point is moot. You  have 7 terribly similar endings to enjoy tragedy so, ironically, be happy with that. Heroes don't always lose either. Sometimes they pull off a miracle too and can get a happier endings than what is presented. Oh, word of advice, if you don't want to ruin your revery in tragic story ME3, stop reading this thread since you have missed the point of the title of, "So we can't get the ending we want after all?" or I am to assume you are not satisfied that ME3 isn't tragic enough for you.