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#11026
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Do we know the criteria needed for Shepard to be alive? I know its 5000 or 4000 with the right choices. Do we know what these right choices are?


I don't. Haven't read all the spoilers. I try to keep some things for me to find out. Although, they are few.

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Are you sure about this Ending? I mean the game hasn't released yet, how could you know this is the only ending available?

But If that was the only ending I will be disappointed because I have +25 saves of ME2 and I imported them all from original ME1. Does that show how do Bioware treat her loyal fans??

I am not writing anything regarding the game ending until the game releases!


Someone should put together a compiled list of all the leaks so that newcomers can just click it and save themselves some time. I call "not it", though.


I read all ending leaks and can't believe all the time I spent playing this game ,,,,, was TOTAL waste! 




DENIAL. Don't worry, you'll get over it. Or not.


The game will be released on the day after tommorrow, so I prefer to wait for the game releases. however, I can see some of the leaks looks very authentic. But I keep wondering why did Bioware delay game releases and then they gave us one ending?? How couldn't they listen to Fans? Have they sent Mass Effect to oblivion by mean? I was waiting for this game soo long and now I got very poor ending, which was the most motivating factor that keeps me playing this game :((((((

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Honestly, it's fine. I don't hold it against you because the reality of the situation really sucks. =/

Someone on SA got a space edition copy of the PS3 version. I think one of the other SE players on the board who confirmed the 16MB patch size is also using a PS3 copy. Also, the patch data has already been patched into Origin copies and, I assume, the space editions now.

Again, faced with all of this, I think what you choose to believe has to come down to the following: DO you believe leaking bad endings was a marketing idea or an attempt to teach everyone a lesson about NDA/Piracy laws, or do you think they just released it as is, bad writing and all, just because they wanted to end their story?


I have trouble believing you can do something this bad without intending it. It isn´t even to have a starting point for ME4, Merge is incompatible with the other 2, Control might mean Reapers are available to deal with other big enough threats, and destroy kills the geth.

If only the Normandy wasn´t stranded I could live with the rest.

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Kanmuru wrote...

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Can't believe fangirls still whining about this thing.

"Take DAO for example, you had many choices but in the end its all about you vs the arch-demon that you have to defeat..."

Exactly. But you can't make twilight fangirls understand.


Actually it's you and your team against the Archdemon.


My argument is that those people need to admit that the only problem they have is that they cant be with their virtual Blue Waifu at the end and they decide bash many other aspects of the game that have nothing to do with it.

STOP saying this game gives no choices (it gives several)

STOP saying all the endings are the same (you can destroy all geth + EDI+all reapers, you can control the repears and send to dark space to call them back if AI ever takes control or you can change all systetic and organic life FOREVER)

STOP saying this game has a sad ending ( the galaxy is safe and now they can grow on their own)

STOP saying the tone of the series is grim dark (You can save all of the Normandy crew, you just cant be with                  them but everybody can be alive at the end, including sheppard)


The only real problem you people have with the ending is that the Normandy crew will be away from sheppard, admit it and criticise THAT aspect of the ending.


Frankly, that's a bit of presumptous bull**** on your part.  STOP pretending you know what's going on in other people's heads. 

As for "choice", a selection of three bags of crap still leaves you with crap, crap, or crap, no matter what you do. 

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GBGriffin wrote...
Again, faced with all of this, I think what you choose to believe has to come down to the following: DO you believe leaking bad endings was a marketing idea or an attempt to teach everyone a lesson about NDA/Piracy laws, or do you think they just released it as is, bad writing and all, just because they wanted to end their story?


God i hope neither. One way or another the outcome for BioWare would be really bad, EA too.

Personally, i don't think the first one is a good idea, not when you publicize your game worldwide with lots of cool trailers, nice sprites and scary endings.

Same goes for the second.



Now i finally start to get the Pwned joke on Liara and smurfs.

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Don't jump Tali!

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Oh god, what is with Shep's face? Is he doing duck lips? and those eyebrows are not appropriate for your friend commiting suicide bud.
:mellow:

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madhatterwriter wrote...

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Tazzmission wrote...

your attitude about it is saying it.

you again call me out for being friends with chris ok fine so what? ever stop to think that maybve unlike the rest of this board i actually respect the devs despite my feelings on the endings?


seriously grow up



I am meerly offended that you're glad there isn't a happy ending, because people would complain if there was one.


listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win



And life isn't about tragedy or misery either so you're point is moot. You  have 7 terribly similar endings to enjoy tragedy so, ironically, be happy with that. Heroes don't always lose either. Sometimes they pull off a miracle too and can get a happier endings than what is presented. Oh, word of advice, if you don't want to ruin your revery in tragic story ME3, stop reading this thread since you have missed the point of the title of, "So we can't get the ending we want after all?" or I am to assume you are not satisfied that ME3 isn't tragic enough for you.



um first off im gona speak where ever i want to. you dont run this forum. secondly alot of you have argued that all gamers want the same as you when in fact i have stated multiple times you dont speak for me

just because your not happy with what you got dosent mean everyone else feels the same as you do and your not the whole gaming commuity

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KMYash wrote...

Goose1004 wrote...

Don't jump Tali!

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Oh god, what is with Shep's face? Is he doing duck lips? and those eyebrows are not appropriate for your friend commiting suicide bud.
:mellow:


That really does look kinda photoshopped doesn't it?

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Tazzmission wrote...
just because your not happy with what you got dosent mean everyone else feels the same as you do and your not the whole gaming commuity


just because you're okay with that doesn't mean everyone else feels the same as you do.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Honestly, it's fine. I don't hold it against you because the reality of the situation really sucks. =/

Someone on SA got a space edition copy of the PS3 version. I think one of the other SE players on the board who confirmed the 16MB patch size is also using a PS3 copy. Also, the patch data has already been patched into Origin copies and, I assume, the space editions now.

Again, faced with all of this, I think what you choose to believe has to come down to the following: DO you believe leaking bad endings was a marketing idea or an attempt to teach everyone a lesson about NDA/Piracy laws, or do you think they just released it as is, bad writing and all, just because they wanted to end their story?


I have trouble believing you can do something this bad without intending it. It isn´t even to have a starting point for ME4, Merge is incompatible with the other 2, Control might mean Reapers are available to deal with other big enough threats, and destroy kills the geth.

If only the Normandy wasn´t stranded I could live with the rest.


I'm convinced that what we know about is what there is, and that as released the game will have nothing but the choice of contrived crapsack endings.  It's what Bioware has shown they like to do.

The only thing I can see Bioware doing at this point that changes the ending is charging $30+ for an "alternative ending" DLC that they planned all along. 

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_Martyr_ wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...Again, faced with all of this, I think what you choose to believe has to come down to the following: DO you believe leaking bad endings was a marketing idea or an attempt to teach everyone a lesson about NDA/Piracy laws, or do you think they just released it as is, bad writing and all, just because they wanted to end their story?

God i hope neither. One way or another the outcome for BioWare would be really bad, EA too.Personally, i don't think the first one is a good idea, not when you publicize your game worldwide with lots of cool trailers, nice sprites and scary endings.Same goes for the second.Now i finally start to get the Pwned joke on Liara and smurfs.

other companies did the same with their games...like Batman AA or Darksouls

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KMYash wrote...

Goose1004 wrote...

Don't jump Tali!

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Oh god, what is with Shep's face? Is he doing duck lips? and those eyebrows are not appropriate for your friend commiting suicide bud.
:mellow:

lol.  Sheps face is Photoshopped in that pic.

Here is the pic in question

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_Martyr_ wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...
just because your not happy with what you got dosent mean everyone else feels the same as you do and your not the whole gaming commuity


just because you're okay with that doesn't mean everyone else feels the same as you do.


when have i ever said i speak for the whole gaming community?

i never once have because i can speak only for me and maybe 10 other people.

the attitude around here and not just in the spoiler forums make it sound like the only correct way to make a game is by how you and everyone want it to be

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crimzontearz wrote...

_Martyr_ wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...Again, faced with all of this, I think what you choose to believe has to come down to the following: DO you believe leaking bad endings was a marketing idea or an attempt to teach everyone a lesson about NDA/Piracy laws, or do you think they just released it as is, bad writing and all, just because they wanted to end their story?

God i hope neither. One way or another the outcome for BioWare would be really bad, EA too.Personally, i don't think the first one is a good idea, not when you publicize your game worldwide with lots of cool trailers, nice sprites and scary endings.Same goes for the second.Now i finally start to get the Pwned joke on Liara and smurfs.

other companies did the same with their games...like Batman AA or Darksouls


I honestly loathe the devs of Batman AA for that anti-piracy decision at this point.

Think about the differences: In Batman AA, iirc, your cape is just messed up. You can't glide very well, get trapped in a gas room of death as a result of it, which causes you to die when the room fills up and, therefore, doesn't let you beat the game, which is what a pirate, presumably, would want to do.

In Mass Effect 3, you can play through the game just fine, with no hindrance to gameplay, and get similar shades of bad ending.

Which is the greater deterrent for piracy?

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Tazzmission wrote...

madhatterwriter wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

your attitude about it is saying it.

you again call me out for being friends with chris ok fine so what? ever stop to think that maybve unlike the rest of this board i actually respect the devs despite my feelings on the endings?


seriously grow up



I am meerly offended that you're glad there isn't a happy ending, because people would complain if there was one.


listen life as a whole isnt always gona end with a happy ending it can be terrible miserable even deadly and if people dont understand the point of me3 being a tragedy story game then  fine w/e but dont ruin it for me or anyone else who actually does understand it

im a gamer about story and believe it or not im tired of seeing the hero always winning no matter how much i like one or more.

for once i want the bad guys to win



And life isn't about tragedy or misery either so you're point is moot. You  have 7 terribly similar endings to enjoy tragedy so, ironically, be happy with that. Heroes don't always lose either. Sometimes they pull off a miracle too and can get a happier endings than what is presented. Oh, word of advice, if you don't want to ruin your revery in tragic story ME3, stop reading this thread since you have missed the point of the title of, "So we can't get the ending we want after all?" or I am to assume you are not satisfied that ME3 isn't tragic enough for you.



um first off im gona speak where ever i want to. you dont run this forum. secondly alot of you have argued that all gamers want the same as you when in fact i have stated multiple times you dont speak for me

just because your not happy with what you got dosent mean everyone else feels the same as you do and your not the whole gaming commuity


I was simply replying to your argument, ironically, is not what everyone feels too. Please read over what your previous post and if you're offended well, I can't do anything about that.

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Broder O wrote...

KMYash wrote...

Goose1004 wrote...

Don't jump Tali!

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Oh god, what is with Shep's face? Is he doing duck lips? and those eyebrows are not appropriate for your friend commiting suicide bud.
:mellow:


That really does look kinda photoshopped doesn't it?


Shep's face is. Seen it many times before. The scene though probably is legit, since we know the Geth ending of the conflict.
Poor Tali... Image IPB I'm going for peace!

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Listen I don't believe Day 1 patch will add another ending.... for several reasons

1) If they add another ending Pre-order people and Space Edition guys will be cheated and they will get upset. Not good business, not good for corporate reputation.

2) People already data mined the game. Any activation dependent secret content would have been revealed. A deactivated file would be still there, in one of the folders.

3) Alternative ending would not be compatible with mass relay destruction cinematics and the 3 choices of Guardian. Scenario change of this scale is unlikely...

4) New VO and CGI and in game variable modifiers would be required. Bioware did this on purpose they won't change their mind.

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Tali doesn't want to be in the game either

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kingsims wrote...

I wouldn't cancel it because of. Just play it once and if your upset, just ignore it and pretend the ending was a Deus ex "To be continued"


I'm not going to try to make up some "fan canon" for the ending.

Plus, I refuse to give Bioware money and reward them for combining a contrived storyline turn, the cliche of the singularity, the McGuffin plot device, the crapsack sendings... and the requirement to install Origin spyware. 

Not to mention tacking on phone apps and facebook bull**** that evidently can affect what goes on in the game, making it clear that they're going to consider modding to be cheating, and so on. 

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Tali doesn't want to be in the game either


I expect this to become a meme. Image IPB

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Tazzmission wrote...
when have i ever said i speak for the whole gaming community?


You didn't get my point, whatever.

But please, you made your point, there's no point in arguing more on such a delicate thread. Please stop :<

QUIET PLEASE MAKE IT STOP

GBGriffin wrote...
Think about the differences: In Batman AA, iirc, your cape is just messed up. You can't glide very well, get trapped in a gas room of death as a result of it, which causes you to die when the room fills up and, therefore, doesn't let you beat the game, which is what a pirate, presumably, would want to do.

In Mass Effect 3, you can play through the game just fine, with no hindrance to gameplay, and get similar shades of bad ending.

Which is the greater deterrent for piracy?



I hope you're right.

Modifié par _Martyr_, 04 mars 2012 - 04:11 .


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Goose1004 wrote...

KMYash wrote...

Goose1004 wrote...

Don't jump Tali!

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Oh god, what is with Shep's face? Is he doing duck lips? and those eyebrows are not appropriate for your friend commiting suicide bud.
:mellow:

lol.  Sheps face is Photoshopped in that pic.

Here is the pic in question

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Poor Tali! :'''''''''(

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Ksandor wrote...

Listen I don't believe Day 1 patch will add another ending.... for several reasons

1) If they add another ending Pre-order people and Space Edition guys will be cheated and they will get upset. Not good business, not good for corporate reputation.

2) People already data mined the game. Any activation dependent secret content would have been revealed. A deactivated file would be still there, in one of the folders.

3) Alternative ending would not be compatible with mass relay destruction cinematics and the 3 choices of Guardian. Scenario change of this scale is unlikely...

4) New VO and CGI and in game variable modifiers would be required. Bioware did this on purpose they won't change their mind.


I agree with you on the points, but I don't understand why you think preorder people would be upset

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Perfect, so you agree with me that the galaxy isn't ****ed forever. There will be growth, it will be hard but now the galatic comunnity can grow on its own achievments, they might make new relays or discover new methods of fast travel. How is that a bad ending? Imo its a really good one, i prefer independence and self determination over being slaves of alien technology (just like Liara's father, the wisest asari ever):wizard:


Independent advancement is going to be PRETTY hard without the ability to quickly travel to other star systems.

"Slave to alien technology"? What? Do you know how common it is today for someone to use a product or appliance made from a foreign country? Just because you're using something made from someone else doesn't mean you can't think for yourself, it just means that someone else beat you to it. Only an idiot would try to beat themselves up by ignoring beneficial technologies developed by another race/species.


Except that none of these foreign technologies are actually death traps set by ancient evil machines lol

This entire bull**** (ME series lol) started BECAUSE of the mass relays, if we didnt found any of them we would all be fine and happy on our own. It was the fact that we got dependand on alien tech instead of finding our ways ( something that Liara's dad realised) that made us vulnerable to the reapers...

And this is why the relays NEED to go, otherwise we wont ever learn anything


How the heck are the relays a trap if the Reapers are all destroyed?

And you don't tear apart an entire civilization and doom billions over a point of empty, self-righteous, contrived ideology.  That's what the Reapers were doing! 

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I expect this to become a meme. Image IPB


I hope someone mods the game to replace Tali with random characters jumping off a cliff.