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[xtorma]

no tali wait! give me back that omni tool, it was the best one i found in me1. ok carry on.

[Max Knight]

Ksandor wrote...

Max Knight wrote...

maybe it no all so bleak a while,prophably 2 hundred or so pages,back guy posted this.

1. Earth destroyed and the Galaxy overtaken; the worst possible ending; 1,750 Galactic Readiness rating OR LOWER

2. Reapers destroyed, Earth and the Galaxy devastated (if Collector Base destroyed)

3. Become a Reaper, Earth and Galaxy devastated (if Collector Base kept).

4. Reapers destroyed, Earth and the Galaxy less devastated(if Collector Base destroyed)

5. The Earth and the Galaxy saved; become a Reaper (leader) the middle ending

6. Create synergy between organic and synthetic kind, saving Earth and the Galaxy

7. Reapers destroyed, the Earth and the Galaxy saved; the Perfect Ending; 4,000 Galactic Readiness rating and certain conditions met through Mass Effect 3 met OR 5,000 Galactic Readiness by playing both single player and multiplayer

There's a 8th, surprise ending you get for completing a New Game+ campaign.+ saving a fish from ME2 all the way through ME3./images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png

not sure about no.8 or where di he get that info..but hay better something than nothin ..no?

What is this secret ending? What changes?

no frigin idea i am just repostinf what eragondragonrider posted sooo no bloody idea mate.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Ksandor wrote...

They kept her face hidden even in the final game! Personally I feel cheated. Because it would require additional graphics data on the disc and this way future MMORPG will have Quarian face secret to reveal. Clever Bioware!

Screenshot PM please?

[wicked_being]

In paddlefish we trust.

[mass_zotz]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Ksandor wrote...

They kept her face hidden even in the final game! Personally I feel cheated. Because it would require additional graphics data on the disc and this way future MMORPG will have Quarian face secret to reveal. Clever Bioware!

Screenshot PM please?

PM me to please

[Killjoy Cutter]

HiddenKING wrote...

It's not just an ending, it's a new beginning to the Mass Effect Universe. It allows it to grow in a new way, Shepard broke the chain of destruction. Yes the relays are gone, and it allows the Universe to grow in new ways. New Technology, new challenges, new stories, and new characters. There's tons of possibilities now, and it's not bound to follow Shepard and the 2 dozen or so people from the games. It's a bitter ending, but it's a awesome new beginning.

You end the "chain of destruction" by erradicating the Reapers.  That's it, end of story, nothing else necessary.

Or is there something I missed about the Relays having some dangerous direct effect on those using them?

(And no, "they get used" is not a dangerous effect.)

[Arch1eviathan]

Ksandor wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Smecky Kitteh wrote...
I heard you get to see her face after she commits suicide but her face is obscured if you romance her. I find that a little desturbing in more ways than one. :'(

I think the post-suicide face reveal is trolling. The cliff should be quite high and I doubt Shepard would go down there to check what's left.

The romance picture could be trolling too, but BW usually trolls us first there.

They kept her face hidden even in the final game! Personally I feel cheated. Because it would require additional graphics data on the disc and this way future MMORPG will have Quarian face secret to reveal. Clever Bioware!

So you know how her romance plays out?

[Ksandor]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Ksandor wrote...

They kept her face hidden even in the final game! Personally I feel cheated. Because it would require additional graphics data on the disc and this way future MMORPG will have Quarian face secret to reveal. Clever Bioware!

Screenshot PM please?

What screenshot? According to the forums her face is never fully revealed. That is why I am frustrated. Wish I could give you a screenshot.

[Goose1004]

keboo wrote...

Ok, where can I get ending spoilers?

[ElMuchu]

Oh God, all this work for such an ending, all these save to such a conclusion, I am very very sad, Bioware, why don't you make several very different endings with a possibility of a true happy one for those whose like their shepards and want him/her happy? I would have like a lot having a galaxy without any technology and my shep together with its LI lost on a planet

[CerberusSoldier]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

It looks like EA and Bioware are in full damage control . check out this Mass Effect 3 article on Game Informer .com


http://www.gameinfor...of-the-end.aspx


looks like the Games press is doing another skyrim free pass on this game

Too much of the gaming press is made up of people more concerned with their early access and goodies and chummy relationship with the gaming industry, and people too impressed by flashy gameplay and big effects.

   



If Bioware gets a free pass on this garbage . then I am going to unleash a verbal beat down on sites like Game Informer .

Have fun loosing time with that 

    






these sites need to understand we will not accept another Skyrim style free pass garbage again

I agree. But no matter how hard you try most people don't care and are easily manipulated by a few 9/10 10/10 from IGN/Gameinformer/... 

    




Then this industry has a corupt and Mafia style media group . It needs to be destroyed

[Killjoy Cutter]

curelightwounds wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

Please define your sunshine and lollipop ending because this make most people believe that what's all the people that the want a different ending seem like everyone wants everyone to live, even though its not possible.

Anything that doesn't make me feel like I just played through a George Orwell novel.

George Orwell was a great writer. His books are awesome, his essays are great. They're all tinged with exactly what he wanted: flowerly language, convoluted stories, endings where heroes die and nobody wins -- not even the villains. That's fine for a book. That's fine where I've had no input or control over events or individuals; that's fine where someone has grabbed me by the hand and taken me for a trip through their imagination. That's not okay when I've been given the reigns for eight years, promised control over my destiny and that of the Universe, only to discover that my only reward is one of three different flavors of misery for my character AND EVERYONE who has ever believed in me.

That is NOT OKAY.

Exactly. 

What's the point of playing the game if everything always ends in disaster? 

[keboo]

ElMuchu wrote...

Oh God, all this work for such an ending, all these save to such a conclusion, I am very very sad, Bioware, why don't you make several very different endings with a possibility of a true happy one for those whose like their shepards and want him/her happy? I would have like a lot having a galaxy without any technology and my shep together with its LI lost on a planet

Thanks.

Lame endings hahah, looks like choices matter for ****.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Rdubs wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

It looks like EA and Bioware are in full damage control . check out this Mass Effect 3 article on Game Informer .com


http://www.gameinfor...of-the-end.aspx


looks like the Games press is doing another skyrim free pass on this game

"As I talk to Casey Hudson about this impending finale, I can't help but notice how tired he looks. His voice is hoarse, and he's clearly been spending many late nights with the rest of his team finishing the game."

Or, he's been spending late nights on conference calls with the Board of Directors explaining how they're going to do damage control and what other PR they can do to try to maximize revenue before enough "it all ends up the same, rent don't buy" word of mouth gets around and starts eating into sales.

You have nailed the more probable scenario.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Ksandor wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Ksandor wrote...

They kept her face hidden even in the final game! Personally I feel cheated. Because it would require additional graphics data on the disc and this way future MMORPG will have Quarian face secret to reveal. Clever Bioware!

Screenshot PM please?

What screenshot? According to the forums her face is never fully revealed. That is why I am frustrated. Wish I could give you a screenshot.

Ah ok. Well, we haven't even seen that part. How it looks like I mean. Could be some parts visible.

[TUHD]

IGN/GameInformer/PCGamer etc: 'Can we have an early review?'
Gaming industry: 'Sure, in exchange for 9/10 scores!'
Big media: 'Oh goody, as long as we have the first review it's alright with us!'
*Lots of customers are stupid enough to believe the bigger media* *Discover they got betrayed* *Fall again next time for the cycle*

If you discover a lot of 9/10s from bigger media while smaller are critical about it, be aware that you'll likely be buying a cat in the bag.

[Arch1eviathan]

Ksandor wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Ksandor wrote...

They kept her face hidden even in the final game! Personally I feel cheated. Because it would require additional graphics data on the disc and this way future MMORPG will have Quarian face secret to reveal. Clever Bioware!

Screenshot PM please?

What screenshot? According to the forums her face is never fully revealed. That is why I am frustrated. Wish I could give you a screenshot.

I've heard rumors of her giving you a photo of herself but I haven't heard how her actual romance scene plays out.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Rdubs wrote...

Seriously, how f-in hard would this have been?  This is what I would have come to expect based on everything we've been told all along and the way the "good-neutral-bad" theme has been going.

Ending 1 (Good): Massive fleet battle followed by ground battle.  Fleets suffer heavy losses.  Massive decimation of Earth.  Relays work or are short-circuited to prevent Reapers from reinforcing.  Galactic community pitches in and helps rebuild Earth, which provides a stark contrast to the "we hate humans" the series started with.  Only conventional tech used, no superweapons needed.  Factions who allied during the conflict now stand off against each other, setting up tension for follow-on products (MMORPG).  Love interest and Shepard end up together helping rebuild the damage.

Ending 2 (Neutral): Fleets are wiped out with some ships even resorting to kamikaze in desparation.    Shepard can die or not depending on readiness score, maybe suicide the Normandy with squad aboard in taking out Harbinger which puts the Reapers in enough disarray that the fleets focus fire and pick them off.  Some of squad is killed, maybe even LI.  Nothing left of Earth and humans have to relocate.  A much more costly battle than the Good ending with possibilty of Shepard dying, or surviving but losing love interest.  No super weapons or space magic needed.  Or for a twist the Earth is knowingly sacrificed, the Reapers go to move to the Charon relay to go to their next target than then they get a nasty Arrival surprise of an asteroid into the relay which kills them all and sacrifices all of Sol in the process.

Ending 3 (Bad): Nothing works, the Reapers are too powerful and wipe out everything.  I mean SERIOUSLY, Bioware is even ON RECORD saying that the Reapers winning IS ONE OF THE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES.
Instead we get...what?  We can CONTROL the Reapers?  We can turn all organic and synthetic life into hybrids with space magic?  WHAT THE FRAAAAK?  Sorry but that is PATHETIC.

Wikipedia describes "Deus ex machina" as "a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability, or object....A deus ex machina is generally undesirable in writing and often implies a lack of creativity on the part of the author....The deus ex machina is often considered to be a poor storytelling technique by critics because it undermines the story's internal logic."  If the endings discussed on this forum are the only ones, I just paid $60 for a hot reunion scene with Ashley and a front row seat to three latin words.
http://en.wikipedia....Deus_ex_machina

I too thought we were building up and preparing for a massive battle against a powerful threat. 

Instead we get spacegods that can only be "beaten" with a pyrrhic McGuffin.  

[Seraphiene]

Is there actually a PICTURE or vid with the Normandy crew stranded/or the crew (Joker, henchmen, EDI) getting out of the Normandy?
There have been vids of the endings, so why not this one?

Modifié par Seraphiene, 04 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[_Somebody]

What about the collector base, does anything happen if we saved it or blew it up?

[AllThatJazz]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Kanmuru wrote...

Perfect, so you agree with me that the galaxy isn't ****ed forever. There will be growth, it will be hard but now the galatic comunnity can grow on its own achievments, they might make new relays or discover new methods of fast travel. How is that a bad ending? Imo its a really good one, i prefer independence and self determination over being slaves of alien technology (just like Liara's father, the wisest asari ever)

Independent advancement is going to be PRETTY hard without the ability to quickly travel to other star systems.

"Slave to alien technology"? What? Do you know how common it is today for someone to use a product or appliance made from a foreign country? Just because you're using something made from someone else doesn't mean you can't think for yourself, it just means that someone else beat you to it. Only an idiot would try to beat themselves up by ignoring beneficial technologies developed by another race/species.

ever hear of FTL? in ME2 you can go to nearby systems by using normal fuel. A guy here in the forums said you can cross the entire galaxy in 27 years of flying, its really hard but its NOT the end of space travel.

The end of mass relays is like the end of Airplanes would be for us. Things would become very dificult, but now there is hope for independent growth and inovation. No more dependant on reapers or protean tech to improve our lives, now WE need to work harder for a better future 

Because of course no generation or people was ever able to benefit from the work of others without becoming their "slaves" in real history.  [/sarcasm]

Slightly different, isn't it? Sovereign himself says in ME1 that because of the relays and the Citadel etc, all advanced species (for million of years) have evolved along the paths that the Reapers wanted, and have therefore had their eventual fates dictated entirely by the reapers. So, regardless of all the other times in history when technology was universally beneficial without enslaving anyone, in this particular instance whole civilisations have unknowingly been slaves to, or almost completely reliant upon reaper tech  (in terms of being part of the galactic community, anyway). To their cost, as it turns out.

It's understandable, of course it is - why would anyone bother potentially spending centuries finding their own methods of speeding across the galaxy when there's a ready-made, easy way right in front of them? Perfectly understandable, and exactly what the Reapers wanted and knew would happen.

The 'destroy' ending means it will be more difficult (not impossible), and will take longer for humanity and other species to get back to where they were - but they will do so on their own terms and probably be stronger for it in the long run. Self-reliance breeds progress and ingenuity.  

I do like that one of themes throughout ME has been whether you take the easy route (even if it comes back to bite you in the bum - Saren willingly enslaving himself to Sovereign instead of fighting, the Council's dismissal of the Reaper threat, keeping the Collector Base, the heretic Geth), or whether you forgo what seems to be the easier path for the sake of self-determination.

Not sayin' that I wouldn't love an ending where Shep and whoever ride off into the sunset (cos dayum, I would) but, I have to admit that I'm liking these endings. I feel like a terrible person now. Sorry thread.

 

[Killjoy Cutter]

Aesieru wrote...

and Destroy is the best ending because it kills your enemies, the relays (your prison), and anything that could result in the singularity of technology occurring, but also almost always results in Shephard dying and of course everything blowing up save for a few endings.

And how exactly are the relays a prison? 

[keboo]

"I just paid $60 for a hot reunion scene with Ashley and a front row seat to three latin words."

hahah, so true

[Super.Sid]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

It looks like EA and Bioware are in full damage control . check out this Mass Effect 3 article on Game Informer .com


http://www.gameinfor...of-the-end.aspx


looks like the Games press is doing another skyrim free pass on this game

"As I talk to Casey Hudson about this impending finale, I can't help but notice how tired he looks. His voice is hoarse, and he's clearly been spending many late nights with the rest of his team finishing the game."

Or, he's been spending late nights on conference calls with the Board of Directors explaining how they're going to do damage control and what other PR they can do to try to maximize revenue before enough "it all ends up the same, rent don't buy" word of mouth gets around and starts eating into sales.

You have nailed the more probable scenario.

And at the end we come to know that BW has been trolling us all. Hopeful of a possibility that they may do something to mitigate the impending damage but thats just a weak possibility

[Killjoy Cutter]

AllThatJazz wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Because of course no generation or people was ever able to benefit from the work of others without becoming their "slaves" in real history.  [/sarcasm]

Slightly different, isn't it? Sovereign himself says in ME1 that because of the relays and the Citadel etc, all advanced species (for million of years) have evolved along the paths that the Reapers wanted, and have therefore had their eventual fates dictated entirely by the reapers. So, regardless of all the other times in history when technology was universally beneficial without enslaving anyone, in this particular instance whole civilisations have unknowingly been slaves to, or almost completely reliant upon reaper tech  (in terms of being part of the galactic community, anyway). To their cost, as it turns out.

It's understandable, of course it is - why would anyone bother potentially spending centuries finding their own methods of speeding across the galaxy when there's a ready-made, easy way right in front of them? Perfectly understandable, and exactly what the Reapers wanted and knew would happen.

The 'destroy' ending means it will be more difficult (not impossible), and will take longer for humanity and other species to get back to where they were - but they will do so on their own terms and probably be stronger for it in the long run. Self-reliance breeds progress and ingenuity.  

I do like that one of themes throughout ME has been whether you take the easy route (even if it comes back to bite you in the bum - Saren willingly enslaving himself to Sovereign instead of fighting, the Council's dismissal of the Reaper threat, keeping the Collector Base, the heretic Geth), or whether you forgo what seems to be the easier path for the sake of self-determination.

Not sayin' that I wouldn't love an ending where Shep and whoever ride off into the sunset (cos dayum, I would) but, I have to admit that I'm liking these endings. I feel like a terrible person now. Sorry thread.

1)  With the Reapers gone, it's all moot.  There's no threat.  There's no plan to "fall in line with."   There's no trap. 

2)  Did trains somehow stop the invention of the automobile and the airplane?  No.  Why would the Relays stop development of alternatives?  

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 04 mars 2012 - 04:54 .