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[albertalad]

I...AM...KROGAN wrote...

I just got home from work. I'll be posting some new pictures from the strategy guide in a little while.

Thanks man would really appreciate any hope at this point!

[Mr Plow]

crimzontearz wrote...

the more I read these threads....the more I feel like screaming to let it all out and just cancel my pre order....I don't know if it would be worth playing at all now.....

I scrambled around to get the CE last week when Game cancelled my pre-order due to their own problems. PArt of me thinks I should have just stuck with Standard


A big part of my motivation in playing the game was not just to stop the faceless Big Bad and faceless galaxy with whom I feel little connection but to protect and save Shepard's friends, allies and love interest with whom I do feel some emotional investment


It feels like Dragon Age 2 - all roads lead to almost the same thing.  I could even understand that for DA 2 given it is not the conclusion and there are more variables/branching plots which give design headaches but where ME 3 is the climax ....

One ending just one...where Shepard and the Normandy escape and reunite on Earth and start the long journey to rebuilding the galaxy...

[ratzerman]

Folks, no need to worry.

Our custom faces won't import anyway, so we can pretend that the game takes place in an alternate reality.

Modifié par ratzerman, 04 mars 2012 - 05:46 .

[Xalena]

Man...it always happens this with Bioware games. I started to get use to...
first I rage
then, I am like, whatever it is just friggin game
and then I make my own ending in my head
I am happy
I forget and move on
grrr

[TUHD]

Indeed. The Reapers are gone, merged or controlled (in the latter cases it doesn't matter what they want since you control them), so why oh why need the relays be destroyed? It isn't like the relays are sentient or something.... sure, they still got hidden functions, but...

[CerberusSoldier]

All the good names were taken wrote...

Sorry, only read the first page so apologies if this has already been said (it likely has been), but how did you think this game was going to go down? Shepard's fighting a war which the galaxy was utterly unprepared for due to denial - that countless other civilisations have failed to even come close to winning, and you expected a happy ending? Seriously? The happy ending is that the Reapers are finally destroyed and organic life is allowed to progress - that's what Shepard's been fighting for the whole time.

Ever since ME2 we've all been complaining that Bioware would have to pull one mother of a deus ex machina to get themselves out of this story in one piece, and now that they've given us a realistic ending we're complaining some more? Can somebody explain to me the leap in logic here?

   


This is not a realistic ending at all . It does not even have logic behind it . So the reapers are our saviors from evil AI but yet they are cyborgs them selfs . So in all honesty there is no war vs the reapers and no saving earth . Since the reapers are on our side based on the endings

[Killjoy Cutter]

Kanmuru wrote...

GDK wrote...

See,  TOTALLY get that. So I understand where BW got the idea... but if the Reapers are GONE at the end... why would their old trap matter?

Symbolism. The reapers "gave" us the technology if were gonna be free from their genocide we must make our own path. I understand you would prefer a pragmatic choice but the symbolic aproach makes sense from a literary point of view.

Think of it as a "coming of age"  for the galaxy, you have to leave your parents house to make a future of your own (although these "parents" are genocidal aliens i this case )

Oh, symbolism. 



LoL.

[TekFanX]

Mr Plow wrote...

So Tali on the cliff....suicide scenario?

And I thought they said it would be a lighter game

It's so light, I bet Tali will feel like she's flying. You know, until she reaches her destination.

What did people say in this thread already? The travel is what matters, not the destination?

I don't know...falling can be nice, a feeling of flight and weightlessness, what kills you is the impact.

Still...I hope for the endings being just some kind of protection against leaks or piracy.

[Jackal7713]

crimzontearz wrote...

the more I read these threads....the more I feel like screaming to let it all out and just cancel my pre order....I don't know if it would be worth playing at all now.....

I'm right there with you crimzontearz. I was trying to start a replay of ME 2 with a ME 1 save, and I found myself saying why bother? I'm going to be powned in the end of three anyways.

[Killjoy Cutter]

All the good names were taken wrote...

Ever since ME2 we've all been complaining that Bioware would have to pull one mother of a deus ex machina to get themselves out of this story in one piece, and now that they've given us a realistic ending we're complaining some more? Can somebody explain to me the leap in logic here?

    

We wanted a realistic ending, and instead what Bioware actually gave us was Lovercraftian spacegods that could only be beaten through space magic, and a LITERAL deus ex machina solution. 

[ElMuchu]

Don't you think it is possible to send signatures to EA/Bioware to ask for a DLC with better ending?

[Canned Bullets]

If Bioware releases DLC it better be free.

[crimzontearz]

Jackal7713 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...the more I read these threads....the more I feel like screaming to let it all out and just cancel my pre order....I don't know if it would be worth playing at all now.....

I'm right there with you crimzontearz. I was trying to start a replay of ME 2 with a ME 1 save, and I found myself saying why bother? I'm going to be powned in the end of three anyways.

Exactly.....

[TUHD]

All the good names were taken wrote...

Sorry, only read the first page so apologies if this has already been said (it likely has been), but how did you think this game was going to go down? Shepard's fighting a war which the galaxy was utterly unprepared for due to denial - that countless other civilisations have failed to even come close to winning, and you expected a happy ending? Seriously? The happy ending is that the Reapers are finally destroyed and organic life is allowed to progress - that's what Shepard's been fighting for the whole time.

Ever since ME2 we've all been complaining that Bioware would have to pull one mother of a deus ex machina to get themselves out of this story in one piece, and now that they've given us a realistic ending we're complaining some more? Can somebody explain to me the leap in logic here?

Realistic? *laughs* This isn't realistic... it's one big MacGuffin, it's an red herring.... call it whatever you want, but it's a joke and a piece of B/S. That games like Deus Ex, Planescape etc go dark, is no surprise. You feel it from the first moment in the series (where applicable) there won't be a true happy ending.
And although noone of us expects an ending where everyone's alive and happy etc, Bioware has grabbed way over their head with the current endings as-of known. Also, Deus Ex, Planescape etc let you feel the consequences of your actions. ME3 however tells you 'You did this and that in ME1&2, this is the minor change in 3 and whatever decisions you made further be damned, we're going that way whether you like it or not!'. While Bioware prided the series as being your own story, your own actions and consequences..

[Killjoy Cutter]

Kanmuru wrote...

Ill say this for the 94586th time, if they only change the fate of the normandy 99% of the drama going on would vanish lol

Honestly i wouldnt mind (actually i would like) if they did that. But when i think of ME3 as a game, as the last part of the trilogy i believe this ending is amazing. Bioware did a good job and they dont deserve most of the grief were giving them...

Right now i give this game a 9.7 for story (if they save the normandy it would be a 10 lol)

You can say it 945860 times, repetition doesn't create truth. 

[Bubalo]

So any word on whether or not the teleport/magically ascending squad-mates to the Normandy is a bug or a **** excuse to tug at the ol' heart strings? Not that the Normandy trying to fly away isnt already **** enough.

[Risselda]

So I sat on it a couple days. And I am ok with the endings.

Tbh, I like the endings...and I think they allow us to have a happier ending than if bioware force fed us one.

I mean...I think it'd be much more heartfelt if shep (after destroy) set out and found the normandy. Every race working to rebuild mass relays....wouldnt take long.

The endings allow for much more rich headcannons.

[mass_zotz]

Canned Bullets wrote...

If Bioware releases DLC it better be free.

Agreed

[tishr]

All the good names were taken wrote...

Sorry, only read the first page so apologies if this has already been said (it likely has been), but how did you think this game was going to go down? Shepard's fighting a war which the galaxy was utterly unprepared for due to denial - that countless other civilisations have failed to even come close to winning, and you expected a happy ending? Seriously? The happy ending is that the Reapers are finally destroyed and organic life is allowed to progress - that's what Shepard's been fighting for the whole time.

Ever since ME2 we've all been complaining that Bioware would have to pull one mother of a deus ex machina to get themselves out of this story in one piece, and now that they've given us a realistic ending we're complaining some more? Can somebody explain to me the leap in logic here?

The problem is they give you a magic mcgruffin button at the end of the game that pretty much causes one of 3 endings to happen based on that choice regadless of any other choices you made in the trilogy. Also both the mcgruffin and all the choices are pretty idiotic as is the "moral" that their artsy pretentious bull**** is trying to push out.

[Beomer]

I was trying to stay away from the ending spoilers until I realised better to know what crap will go down than to sit there playing the game till the end and then bash my head against the wall due to bad endings.
I got nothing to say that's not already been said (although I did not go through the near 500 pages) but only that I could've accepted an ending with Shepard dying. Hell I could've taken it if they had Shepard die in all the endings. Obviously I would've loved it more had it been a 'happily ever after ending' but I get it if the hero dies. After all what better way to measure a man then by the glory of his death? The greatest heroes always end up dying, because they transcend that line that separates ordinary men from great men. Dying quietly in a bed would be too mundane for a such a man.

But why, why would they doom the squad too?! That really is just being sadistic, or even worse a very pathetic attempt trying to generate drama and emotions, and create a 'dark' ending. Last time I checked it was Dragon Age which was supposed to be (before DA2 came along) dark fantasy. Mass Effect was a Star Wars esque space opera.

And if at all, they are doing this so that they can release DLC later and repair the ending...well I don't know what to say. That's crossing all lines of decency. It's like holding fans hostage for happiness and satisfaction. It's like GRRM saying that send me money or I kill another Stark and bring Joffery back from the dead.

It's disappointing. I don't know if I will be able to get through the game now, now that I know what end awaits. I'm sure the gameplay would be awesome, as well as the voice acting and the balance and all that stuff, but hell, this was Mass Effect. I played it for the story and the characters. Just like Dragon Age.

Don't screw up your own stories Bioware.

[crimzontearz]

Risselda wrote...So I sat on it a couple days. And I am ok with the endings. Tbh, I like the endings...and I think they allow us to have a happier ending than if bioware force fed us one.I mean...I think it'd be much more heartfelt if shep (after destroy) set out and found the normandy. Every race working to rebuild mass relays....wouldnt take long. The endings allow for much more rich headcannons.

I do not want to resort to headcanon...that's like delusion

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Tazzmission wrote...

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

albertalad wrote...

LMAO - those on here claiming THEY love the endings write - come on - use your imagination - What? BW took any imagination away with their push button, choose favorite Christmas Tree lights, and kiss your butt goodbye!

how did they steal your imagination away?

i can imagine a ton of possible ways this ends the way it does

I said it before, but you ignored it.

When BioWare says "definite end" and "more answers than questions", I expect something DEFINITE.

An epilogue text or something that tells me, what did my actions do.

Who lived? Who died? What changed? How did the world go on?

And then have the grandpa and kid.

and like i said many times before it can end up as dlc and for all you know it could be free dlc 

just be patient and quit freaking out so much

Oh, I'm not the one freaking out.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Bomb In My Pants wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Bomb In My Pants wrote...

The Reapers most definately DID use the relays. I'm starting to think EVERYONE has forgotten Arrival already.

For the buildup to ME3, they didn't use any relays. They just sort of flew here from Dark Space.

They had planned to use the Alpha relay, but then Shepard slammed an asteroid into it.

Yes, until they reached teh nearest relay. Hence why I said the trap is not reliant upon the Keepers, that was simply something to help ease the Reapers.

The trap was that each new rise of galactic civilization would at a certain point become reliant on the Relay network, and at that point, the Reapers would sneak in, shut it down, and leave the civilization crippled and vulnerable. 

With the Reapers dead, there's no trap, and nothing stopping the development of better means of long-distance FTL travel.  (Or maybe there ISN'T a better means of long-distance FTL in the ME setting.)

The Reapers using the Relays as a means of getting around the galaxy after their trap failed isn't anything special -- and what are you going to do, come up with a way to stop all FTL so the Reapers can't move between systems at all, and neither can anyone else? 

[eye basher]

The reapers are too powerful to beat with force of arms look how many ships it took just to kill one in ME1 this is an entire armada.

[Ultt]

Risselda wrote...

So I sat on it a couple days. And I am ok with the endings.

Tbh, I like the endings...and I think they allow us to have a happier ending than if bioware force fed us one.

I mean...I think it'd be much more heartfelt if shep (after destroy) set out and found the normandy. Every race working to rebuild mass relays....wouldnt take long.

The endings allow for much more rich headcannons.

But, it seems that that's exactly what Bioware did. Regardless of choice, Paragons and Renegades will have similiar endings.