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Tazzmission wrote...

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say all you want about the ending but i am getting my copy this tuesday anyway and i can´t wait to enjoy the ride


forget tuesday im going tomorrow for the midnight release


*Raises hand* yep!

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The stream just leaked the Destroy ending:

Shepard and Anderson are transported aboard the Crucible - apparently, your squadmates may remain alive if you have enough Readiness points, and remain on Earth (although they're probably injured). Shepard finds Anderson at a console inside the Crucible, and the Illusive Man is there as well. Shep and IM have a conversation about the potential of the Reapers. There's an interrupt moment (where you might be able to save Anderson, if the leaked dialogue is any indication), and the conversation with the Crucible plays.

The dialogue is pretty much exactly the same as the leaked file, and the representation is a holographic(?) projection of the kid from the beginning of the game. Shepard goes to destroy something and fires several bullets from his pistol into it, igniting the Crucible and sending the beam out.

The Normandy lands on a planet that has jungle foliage. In the playthrough, the streamer got a bad end - the scene cuts just before the airlock fully opens. Epilogue plays the same, and ends a declaration that the story can continue through "further gameplay and downloadable content".

END OF LINE


So the squad-mates you bring with you to Earth are not transported back to the Normandy? 


The last time you see them, they're laying on the ground near the beam leading up to the Crucible. Apparently, there's a "good" outcome for them if you have enough points.

http://images.4chan....30887432390.png


Knowing that your squad-mates you bring remain on Earth makes the ending more bareable, the Normandy thing still sucks though. 

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A question to all the haters. Now dont get me wrong but i'm not exactly delighted by the endings - although the synergy ending does kinda make sense (and has been flagged as part of the game since ME1)

If no one is rescued, how the hell does the old man know the story?


Even if the whole crew dies, everyone knows the story of ol' Sheploo.
Because Bioware writing.

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not unless a distress signal is sent out

It could take centuries, if not longer, to reach anyone who could hear it. 

And there's the fact that they have no idea where they've crashed.

The Normandy is still equipped with a quantum entanglement communicator, is it not?

If it survived the crash.

And I thought it was linked to TIM's office, which wouldn't be of much use.

Regardless, even if by some miracle it was possible to communicate with anyone, it would be many decades, if not centuries, before they could be reached. They have no idea where they've crashed - this is uncharted space.

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Tazzmission wrote...

i like the idea of the relays going adds more to the whole feel as to what the death was for

knock out the reapers escape rute for no chance of escape

merge with them and take them with you into death


Good point but it would cripple space travel enormously at least for a couple of years. Then again, it's a temporary sacrifice I could live with :)

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Rendered via in-game cinematics I guess? Not ones that can be data-mined. The endings that is, for your squad mates on earth. I really do wonder where this teleporting thing came from...

I'd click the image myself, but I've stayed away from 4chan. For some reason, my anti-virus software never liked it the one time I went to check it out with all the DA 2 controversy.


It's part of the gameplay. Everyone (Shepard, teammates, Alliance ground forces) starts running towards the beam leading to the Crucible, dodging Reaper fire all the way. Near the beam, a blast wave comes up, and Shepard (in the stream) is seemingly the only one still standing. S/he starts limping over to the beam while wielding a pistol and shooting a couple of enemies. The teammates are on the ground. This is all in the gameplay - no cutscenes.

The image says, "Commander Shepard has become a legend by ending the Reaper threat. Now you can continue to build that legend through further gameplay and downloadable content."

Modifié par crazyrabbits, 04 mars 2012 - 07:24 .


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marstor05 wrote...

A question to all the haters. Now dont get me wrong but i'm not exactly delighted by the endings - although the synergy ending does kinda make sense (and has been flagged as part of the game since ME1)

If no one is rescued, how the hell does the old man know the story?

I saw someting to this effect, maybe the Liara fish intel, Liara creates a similar program to the Protean communication device on Eden Prime with all known languages she seeds throughout the Galazy on various planets for future generations yet to come.

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marstor05 wrote...

A question to all the haters. Now dont get me wrong but i'm not exactly delighted by the endings - although the synergy ending does kinda make sense (and has been flagged as part of the game since ME1)

If no one is rescued, how the hell does the old man know the story?

Its implied he is a descandant of the Normandy's crew, because the Normandy founded a colony despite having far too few people for this to be viable.

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Shin-Anubis wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i like the idea of the relays going adds more to the whole feel as to what the death was for

knock out the reapers escape rute for no chance of escape

merge with them and take them with you into death


Good point but it would cripple space travel enormously at least for a couple of years. Then again, it's a temporary sacrifice I could live with :)


and this is why i like the endings because it gives me an oppertunity to come up with as a alternate way of ending it

and i really do believe thats what the devs intended it for

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crazyrabbits wrote...

Bubalo wrote...
So the squad-mates you bring with you to Earth are not transported back to the Normandy? 


The last time you see them, they're laying on the ground near the beam leading up to the Crucible. Apparently, there's a "good" outcome for them if you have enough points.


ORLY?  The plot thickens...

Everything I've heard has them on the Normandy at the end, then possibly popping out of the hatch.

There will probably be fall less outcry is we can "save" our two favorites...

Modifié par Marta Rio, 04 mars 2012 - 07:29 .


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I pretty much would like a DESTROY ending that would leave me with all relays intact or some sort of equally advance technology that would replace the galaxy's current space travel.

That seems too much to ask.

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Many characters who were squadmates in ME2 will die.



Is that unavoidable?
I just hope it's not Grunt or Samara.

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Tazzmission wrote...

i like the idea of the relays going adds more to the whole feel as to what the death was for

knock out the reapers escape rute for no chance of escape

merge with them and take them with you into death


The Relays were the tools with which the Reapers stunted technological advancement of organics and ensured their society grew exactly as they wanted. I think its fitting that the Relays are the weapons with which the Reapers are destroyed.

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Huyna wrote...

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Many characters who were squadmates in ME2 will die.



Is that unavoidable?
I just hope it's not Grunt or Samara.

Some are. Some aren't.

Grunt's and Samara's are avoidable I believe.

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Bubalo wrote...

crazyrabbits wrote...

Bubalo wrote...

crazyrabbits wrote...

The stream just leaked the Destroy ending:

Shepard and Anderson are transported aboard the Crucible - apparently, your squadmates may remain alive if you have enough Readiness points, and remain on Earth (although they're probably injured). Shepard finds Anderson at a console inside the Crucible, and the Illusive Man is there as well. Shep and IM have a conversation about the potential of the Reapers. There's an interrupt moment (where you might be able to save Anderson, if the leaked dialogue is any indication), and the conversation with the Crucible plays.

The dialogue is pretty much exactly the same as the leaked file, and the representation is a holographic(?) projection of the kid from the beginning of the game. Shepard goes to destroy something and fires several bullets from his pistol into it, igniting the Crucible and sending the beam out.

The Normandy lands on a planet that has jungle foliage. In the playthrough, the streamer got a bad end - the scene cuts just before the airlock fully opens. Epilogue plays the same, and ends a declaration that the story can continue through "further gameplay and downloadable content".

END OF LINE


So the squad-mates you bring with you to Earth are not transported back to the Normandy? 


The last time you see them, they're laying on the ground near the beam leading up to the Crucible. Apparently, there's a "good" outcome for them if you have enough points.

http://images.4chan....30887432390.png


Knowing that your squad-mates you bring remain on Earth makes the ending more bareable, the Normandy thing still sucks though. 

It most certainly would, but we have no confirmation of this.

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Adragalus wrote...

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not unless a distress signal is sent out

It could take centuries, if not longer, to reach anyone who could hear it. 

And there's the fact that they have no idea where they've crashed.

The Normandy is still equipped with a quantum entanglement communicator, is it not?

If it survived the crash.

And I thought it was linked to TIM's office, which wouldn't be of much use.

Regardless, even if by some miracle it was possible to communicate with anyone, it would be many decades, if not centuries, before they could be reached. They have no idea where they've crashed - this is uncharted space.

Yeah, just a thought.

Though remember, the Alliance stripped down and retrofitted the SR2. I seriously doubt they left in the direct line to TIM. Either redirected it, or tore it out.

Also, there's some upcoming "Twitter" thing from Diane Allers about visiting a QEC recearch lab at UCLA.

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crazyrabbits wrote...

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Rendered via in-game cinematics I guess? Not ones that can be data-mined. The endings that is, for your squad mates on earth. I really do wonder where this teleporting thing came from...

I'd click the image myself, but I've stayed away from 4chan. For some reason, my anti-virus software never liked it the one time I went to check it out with all the DA 2 controversy.


It's part of the gameplay. Everyone (Shepard, teammates, Alliance ground forces) starts running towards the beam leading to the Crucible, dodging Reaper fire all the way. Near the beam, a blast wave comes up, and Shepard (in the stream) is seemingly the only one still standing. S/he starts limping over to the beam while wielding a pistol and shooting a couple of enemies. The teammates are on the ground. This is all in the gameplay - no cutscenes.

The image says, "Commander Shepard has become a legend by ending the Reaper threat. Now you can continue to build that legend through further gameplay and downloadable content."


Cheers for the reply. I 'knew' there had to be more to the endings that people couldn't view via datamining.

So, it's possible the galaxy isn't screwed afterall with the 'downloadable content and further gameplay' thing mentioned, as to me it implies there could be post end-game content. In turn, the choice you make at the end would affect post end-game DLC, letting you see what comes of your choices quite possibly.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Bubalo wrote...

crazyrabbits wrote...

Bubalo wrote...

crazyrabbits wrote...

The stream just leaked the Destroy ending:

Shepard and Anderson are transported aboard the Crucible - apparently, your squadmates may remain alive if you have enough Readiness points, and remain on Earth (although they're probably injured). Shepard finds Anderson at a console inside the Crucible, and the Illusive Man is there as well. Shep and IM have a conversation about the potential of the Reapers. There's an interrupt moment (where you might be able to save Anderson, if the leaked dialogue is any indication), and the conversation with the Crucible plays.

The dialogue is pretty much exactly the same as the leaked file, and the representation is a holographic(?) projection of the kid from the beginning of the game. Shepard goes to destroy something and fires several bullets from his pistol into it, igniting the Crucible and sending the beam out.

The Normandy lands on a planet that has jungle foliage. In the playthrough, the streamer got a bad end - the scene cuts just before the airlock fully opens. Epilogue plays the same, and ends a declaration that the story can continue through "further gameplay and downloadable content".

END OF LINE


So the squad-mates you bring with you to Earth are not transported back to the Normandy? 


The last time you see them, they're laying on the ground near the beam leading up to the Crucible. Apparently, there's a "good" outcome for them if you have enough points.

http://images.4chan....30887432390.png


Knowing that your squad-mates you bring remain on Earth makes the ending more bareable, the Normandy thing still sucks though. 

It most certainly would, but we have no confirmation of this.


True, hope the more points dosnt equate to them coming out of the Normandy at the end. 

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I really wish the money for this "bioware pulse"-nonsense(at least that's my oppinion on it) had been put into the writing for the endings.
Nothing personal, but when David Silverman showed up at the C&C3-project, they also made this useless pseudo-podcasts with him in it. After that, the C&C-franchise died for me.
I had already a bad feeling when I saw his face in a podcast regarding BioWare, remembered of what happened to C&C.
I don't get it.
I don't recall such podcasts on other EA-products I've followed until I lost interest.
Is it Silverman, bringing them with him in his work? Does he need to see his face in the internet or is it just for saving money on some professional moderator?

I wouldn't have mentioned it, since other games get such pr-vids, but in both game-series I cared about(C&C and ME), Silverman showed up in some kind of podcast.
Not that I want to runt against this man in personal, but it's a remarkable coincidence for me.
C&C is already dead for me.
ME goes the same road and I sure won't try out C&C, just after this little EA-"worlds collide".

As for BioWare, with your new forum-rules and all, I didn't get impolite, sweared or something, I just mentioned some issues I had with some business/pr and stated that I see coincidences. If you ban me over this, I think you need to update your policies once again.

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Rob_K1 wrote...

crazyrabbits wrote...

Rob_K1 wrote...

Rendered via in-game cinematics I guess? Not ones that can be data-mined. The endings that is, for your squad mates on earth. I really do wonder where this teleporting thing came from...

I'd click the image myself, but I've stayed away from 4chan. For some reason, my anti-virus software never liked it the one time I went to check it out with all the DA 2 controversy.


It's part of the gameplay. Everyone (Shepard, teammates, Alliance ground forces) starts running towards the beam leading to the Crucible, dodging Reaper fire all the way. Near the beam, a blast wave comes up, and Shepard (in the stream) is seemingly the only one still standing. S/he starts limping over to the beam while wielding a pistol and shooting a couple of enemies. The teammates are on the ground. This is all in the gameplay - no cutscenes.

The image says, "Commander Shepard has become a legend by ending the Reaper threat. Now you can continue to build that legend through further gameplay and downloadable content."


Cheers for the reply. I 'knew' there had to be more to the endings that people couldn't view via datamining.

So, it's possible the galaxy isn't screwed afterall with the 'downloadable content and further gameplay' thing mentioned, as to me it implies there could be post end-game content. In turn, the choice you make at the end would affect post end-game DLC, letting you see what comes of your choices quite possibly.


Indeed. I started watching from the last section of Operation Hammer, so I missed a lot. I heard from others that the streamer had a scene with Garrus where they use their final "downtime" to go target shooting, and that there's an option to purposely lose so that Garrus is happy.

Anyway, the last section of Operation Hammer had (in this stream) Shep, EDI and Garrus using Missile turrets to take out a Sovereign-class Reaper guarding the beam to the Crucible. You have to survive several waves of enemies (Banshees, Harvesters, the works). After you destroy the Reaper with the missiles, one of your teammates (in this case, Garrus) starts singlehandedly mopping up the last couple enemies. Anderson then shows up and you all get in a vehicle to travel towards the beam.

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Sargerus wrote...

Fafner_Ni wrote...

Garrus30 wrote...

KefkaGestahl wrote...

hudakj wrote...

There is also the secret ending for beating the game in NG+. The guide only hints it in one sentence:

What?  I'm not seeing what you're seeing.


"A secret ending is also available once you complete the game a second time"


It has been confirmed as false by Xio, doesn't surprise me seeing as it's a Prima guide.


So, because ONE guy in the internet told you, with no proof of his claims,you have to believe in him...

Seems legit...


pshhh man shut up or you will anger the crowd cuz from the looks of it Xio is obliviously and omnipoten and omniknowledgable being when it comes to ME3:innocent:

.Personaly i share your sentiment i a more incline to trust Krogan whou actualy backs his claim by some,albeit realy crapy ones, pictures from the guide...and i am **** and off course the prima is incorect and the other hate bull****.

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War is basically inevitable, and the Reapers believed the Cycle was the only way to prevent the singularity while allowing life to exist.

This is where my understanding of the cycle falters.

The Reapers seek to preserve Organic life. While attempting to also preserve the universe in all it's glory, by preventing galatic wars.

Now, Organics in and of themselves are the ultimate creation of war. We're driven by things, be it belief, greed, or need, to wage war on other creatures. Be them Organic or Synthetic. War will always ultimately lead to the decimation of life and destruction of the universe. ( Or at least a large portion of the universe. )

Organics will always wage war. War will always lead to destruction of life and land.

The Reapers seek to preserve Organic life, but prevent the destruction of the universe, which would ultimately come about through war.

You see the problem?

You can't prevent war, without removing the Organic element.
You either have to pick the preservation of the universe or the preservation of Organic Life.
You can't have both.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 04 mars 2012 - 07:35 .


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Adragalus wrote...
Yeah, just a thought.

Though remember, the Alliance stripped down and retrofitted the SR2. I seriously doubt they left in the direct line to TIM. Either redirected it, or tore it out.

Also, there's some upcoming "Twitter" thing from Diane Allers about visiting a QEC recearch lab at UCLA.

Good point, forgot about their retrofit of the Normandy.

Still, a quantum entanglement devide relies on both ends working. Even if the Normandy's one survives the crash when most of the rest of the ship is devastated, whatever the device connects to would also needed to have surived the Reaper war.

And it doesn't change the fact that the Normandy crew have no idea where they are, and even if they did they are in uncharted space betwene two Relays. They're too far away to be rescued, especially seeing as galactic society is going to be trying to rebuild itself.

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i like the idea of the relays going adds more to the whole feel as to what the death was for

knock out the reapers escape rute for no chance of escape

merge with them and take them with you into death


The Relays were the tools with which the Reapers stunted technological advancement of organics and ensured their society grew exactly as they wanted. I think its fitting that the Relays are the weapons with which the Reapers are destroyed.


exactly! using the enemies weapon against them

id love to write for bioware becaus ei have some amazing ideas on how to build on mass effect with dlc

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Huyna wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...
Many characters who were squadmates in ME2 will die.



Is that unavoidable?
I just hope it's not Grunt or Samara.


It depends on choices.