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[JeffZero]

mranderson25 wrote...

I seem to remember another sci-fi shooter series ending after 3 games where, after saving the galaxy, the hero was stranded on a half-destroyed ship that was drifting towards an unknown planet on the opposite side of the galaxy...

Yeah, although in that one there wasn't a question of whether the hero was human, merged with synthetics or fused with a giant space machine.

[yoshibb]

Tazzmission wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

not all wars end good like in films people

if people expected me3 to have a all sunshine and rainbow happy ending then they know nothing on war at all

  


what war when in the end neither side wins and Shepard and the Galaxy dies anyways . These endings are mind blowing stupid

from where im sitting and based on peoples comments i do believe they expect another everyone survies type ending when in reality in war that never happens.

shepard dies ok so what? i think thats fine mainly because how often do you see the hero of any franchise get killed off permanetly?

if anything its something fresh instead of the same old hero saves the day argument or hero dies and is brought back argument.

when shepard joins with the reapers that means he as a human is dead plain and simple and the best way to NOT include him in any future mass effect games wich the devs said themselves expect spin offs

I see heroes die all the time. I haven't seen a happy ending since Disney movies I watched as a little kid. It's ridiculous. But as I said, that's not what I'm asking for. I'm asking for something that doesn't make me feel that all my choices up to the end were completely useless and all my crewmembers are doomed on a deserted planet including the LI who once again has to deal with Shepard dying. 

And you can easily not include Shepard in a spin off. Shepard doesn't have to be there, it's not their story anymore. Make it about an alien civilization, set it 50 years later, do a prequel.

It's not fresh It's cliche. It's a sad attempt to make the player feel sad and it doesn't work. The only sadness comes from extreme disappointment.

[TheSwex]

I know one thing. I have an N7 Collector's Edition with my name on it and I'm stoked.

Despite what may or may not be true about this game, I'm still excited as hell to play it.

[JeffZero]

zestyshade wrote...

Wait, Mass Effect = Battlestar Galactica?

So glad I'm not the only one who has arrived at this conclusion already.

Yeah, it's always had influences but this is pretty big, lol.

[Warhawk137]

I actually rather like the purported endings myself.  Granted, it would be a bit odd if those were the only endings, as they seem to lack a certain... variety... but they're certainly interesting.

Still a bit skeptical of the information without clearer evidence than we have.

[WvStolzing]

Kotor 2 could have been far greater than Kotor 1, but it's all but forgotten now. It was rushed into release; so Obsidian had to contrive some really odd endings----these allegedly 'leaked' endings remind me of the oddity in those.

Modifié par WvStolzing, 29 février 2012 - 01:56 .

[TheSwex]

I knew going into this that things aren't gonna be as cut an dry as "get everyone through the last mission alive". In fact, I can promise that we'll end up at one point having to choose between Tali and Legion, and one of them is gonna end up dead long before the final battle.

[JeffZero]

Warhawk137 wrote...

I actually rather like the purported endings myself.  Granted, it would be a bit odd if those were the only endings, as they seem to lack a certain... variety... but they're certainly interesting.

Still a bit skeptical of the information without clearer evidence than we have.

Well, those in-the-know have had an ample helpin of evidence for weeks but now it's been effectively doubled. Still, there's always the remote possibility they're working together, the two trusted sources, in one of the internet's top ten most successful troll maneuvers in history, but we have photographic evidence that one of them has a copy from the space launch and the other one proved he was a tester a long time ago.

It'd be quite the troll indeed.

[Quartof]

This is what happens when you don't plot your story out ahead of time. Make an outline. The story may change as you continue writing it, but at least you have some idea of where you want your story to go instead of just making crap up as you go along.

[Prometheus75]

aLucidMind wrote...

So you're upset because you don't get a "sunshine and butterflies" ending? Because, honestly, the "perfect" ending like that is just pathetic storytelling. No story should have an ending that is all sunshine and butterflies because it just makes the enemy seem utterly incompetent and strips how fearsome they are on top of making the entire story pointless.

I don't want a fairy tale, I want a real story and that is what we're getting. The player shouldn't be in control over everything.

The problem is that the endings presented for ME3 are just flat out bad. I don't mind a sad ending, but at least do it so it makes sense. This was from ME2, everyone dies except Joker. It was well done and makes sense because bad decisions and poor planning made it what it was. If we made correct choices, gained loyalty and planned well we were awarded with a better ending where more or all of the team survived.

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[Siegdrifa]

aLucidMind wrote...

So you're upset because you don't get a "sunshine and butterflies" ending? Because, honestly, the "perfect" ending like that is just pathetic storytelling. No story should have an ending that is all sunshine and butterflies because it just makes the enemy seem utterly incompetent and strips how fearsome they are on top of making the entire story pointless.

I don't want a fairy tale, I want a real story and that is what we're getting. The player shouldn't be in control over everything.

I think you are over reacting with the people asking for a "happy ending", i think those people are expecting multi billion of deads and scars that the galaxy will keep for hundreds of years to come even in this "happy ending".
Also story telling is not about story content, but the way you tell a story to make it intresting. Even a pizza delivery could have an awsome story telling.
If you want a "real" story, watch the news, most of them are "real".
I agree, player shouldn't be in control over everything, it would be hard to give a good pacing to the story otherwise.

[JeffZero]

Quartof wrote...

This is what happens when you don't plot your story out ahead of time. Make an outline. The story may change as you continue writing it, but at least you have some idea of where you want your story to go instead of just making crap up as you go along.

So at this point, do we have any examples of gaming trilogies that have done so and done so successfully throughout the history of the medium? Just curious, I can't think of any.

[Geth Unit_X930]

Creyes one wrote...

Guys dont you get it....the crew that gets stranded on that planet is not a random plantet....its planet were dragon age is set in,...they are the original founders of that land, they have no tech and no contact with anything so they have to adapt to the environment..

I will never play the mass effect 3 single player ever again EVER NEVER EVER again.......bioware has dissapointed me

[Quartof]

JeffZero wrote...

So at this point, do we have any examples of gaming trilogies that have done so and done so successfully throughout the history of the medium? Just curious, I can't think of any.

Just because a videogame hasn't done so successfully doesn't mean one can't. Look, I know about the limiations of writing a story for videogames. Technology limitations, deadlines, fear of the first installment failing and forcing you to abort the trilogy idea. But it doesn't mean you can be like Stephen King and just make crap up as you go along.

But, meh. Videogame stories. I mostly play for the gameplay anyway, stories are like a secondary thing for me. I enjoy them, but I can't really play a videogame with crap gameplay

Modifié par Quartof, 29 février 2012 - 02:05 .

[Tazzmission]

jreezy wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

ill be flat out honest with you i am no butt kisser let alone a drone



it may come as a shock but people ( me for starters) may like what the endings are.

i dont see how that makes me a bioware defence force 

You think I came up with this assumption based off of this single instance? I've seen how you jump to BioWare's defense or snap at anyone who criticizes BioWare plenty of times.

im not sticking up for them im just saying it is what it is and if people dont like it then hey dont buy it

am i worried for me3? yes of course  but i dont sit at my computer all day dwelling on nothing but multiple possible failures.

im just speaking for me when i say this but you and 90% of this board do tend to think you have some authority on how games should be made or how one will succeed or not

basicly what im saying is im sick of the same old whining about the prothean dlc, im sick of the whining on how jessica chobot is in the game, im sick of seeing how i should like a videogame because god forbid if i am not like you than im just a butt kissing chapped liped bioware lover right?

i mean afterall this board is just for the ** true** rpg fans and no one else matters but yourselves

[Mims]

What bewilders me is no one really liked the ending of BSG.

[scotkrow]

I would to point out, we have the internet, all these people who keep telling people can collaborate the leaked script could be incomplete, the guy who "played the game" could have had an outcome that wasn't ideal because he wasn't optimally prepared. There can be any number of reasons why there's no happy ending listed. Hell, this information could all be true, but it could all be incomplete, only a part of the whole. Everyone, just wait for the game, play it and see what you can find out.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

I actually like the endings............ BUT, HOWEVER before you guys flay me alive...

I don't think those should be the only ones, and that there in fact should be a happy ending or two, preferably at least one where Shepard at least get to stay with his/her final LI.

[Capeo]

Warhawk137 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

GethTheBeherith wrote...

Whatever there is, we can't judge the game by some suspicious leaked scripts and endings that were described in quite humorous way by someone we don't know.

If these endings are to be believed and bioware dudes reccomend keeping save files I'd rather wait for another month or two until game is out and all possible DLCs for SP will be announced/released.

  


The leaked script and the info form the game match up the endings are real

OK, honestly, do i have to keep pointing this out?  Whether or not the endings we're discussing are real, that they match the script doesn't mean a damn thing.  If they were fake, they'd still match the script that's been out for a while, simply because that would be the most convincing way to create a fake - to use material that's already been leaked and generally accepted as the basis.

And if they were true they'd match the script so your point matters little.  Facts are BW said the script was real and said it could still be "tweaked" and nothing more.  Facts are Tank was a QA tester on the game until January and he has repeatedly released information that has been confirmed later including things nobody could have known until the DLC leak.  Facts are Xio proved he has the game in his possession and his leaks match Tank's and the script's.  Facts are we have a member of this forum who has been here since 2010, has been answering questions all day from the guide he purports to have, and concurs with the endings.  Facts are we have BW being completely silent and mods are direct people to this thread to talk the endings.

Given all that parsimony leans towards this all being true and not some massive collusion of a bunch of different people to mislead the masses.

[Eragondragonrider]

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[Collider]

Why spoilers are allowed in the gameplay section is beyond me.

[Armass81]

Quartof wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

It's extremely stupid. So is the fact that they apparently changed it so the Mass Relays blow up no matter what... I thought the one guy who posted in bastebin wasnt sure about this so i wasnt thinking it was so real back then but apparently the space version guy said they really do blow up in ALL the endings, and I just happened to read this a little while back, and to me that is just.... bad... wow. This just changes everything....

Yeah, that is another beef I have with the endings. Outside of superficial differences, the same happens no matter what. 

That and Bioware just has to make one more attempt to force Liara on me. I'm giving Bioware some credit, they are some master trolls.

I dont even get it why they screwed over what was in the leak, The merge and control endings didnt mention that the relays will blow up, and that would have been just fine to me. Why the hell did they change it? Was this decision given to some lobotomized monkey or...?

Modifié par Armass81, 29 février 2012 - 02:10 .

[Siegdrifa]

JeffZero wrote...

Quartof wrote...

This is what happens when you don't plot your story out ahead of time. Make an outline. The story may change as you continue writing it, but at least you have some idea of where you want your story to go instead of just making crap up as you go along.

So at this point, do we have any examples of gaming trilogies that have done so and done so successfully throughout the history of the medium? Just curious, I can't think of any.

Hum... the closest i can think of is the Baldur's gate serie as you play the destiny of one character, but still, you main objective evovle; in ME you are commited to stop the reaper since ME1.

I don't think there is many AAA adventure trilogie, those are pretty hughe project if they keep the same theme... in case of Fable or FFX and X2, XIII and XIII-2 it's a different characters you embody, often on another chapter.