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Elegana wrote...
Uh, wow. That makes the endings slightly better.Bebbe777 wrote...
Well, according to a new thread in the spoiler section. Garrus and Tali hook up if they are not your LI and they both are alive after endgame
mass_zotz wrote...
KMYash wrote...
mass_zotz wrote...
Brahlis wrote...
Why does it matter if Miranda dies? She's sterile anyway. If you want a female LI go for Ashley, at least her oven works. Only thing Miranda's good for is smashing dat ass on the weekends when Shepard is bored.
Yes because everybody wants kids........
Considering all the people that are going to die I'm sure that there would have been plenty of orphans for Sheploo and Miranda to adopt if they wanted (as it seemed to me in LotSB that Miranda wanted kids). Plus if you have a Colonist or and Earthborn Shep it might mean more to them to adopt if your canon shep wants kids
All I was saying is that It sounded like if you can't have kids the romance is useless.
That is what just guts me. That Normandy thing.DifferentD17 wrote...
Elegana wrote...
Uh, wow. That makes the endings slightly better.Bebbe777 wrote...
Well, according to a new thread in the spoiler section. Garrus and Tali hook up if they are not your LI and they both are alive after endgame
But then they starve....
DifferentD17 wrote...
Elegana wrote...
Uh, wow. That makes the endings slightly better.Bebbe777 wrote...
Well, according to a new thread in the spoiler section. Garrus and Tali hook up if they are not your LI and they both are alive after endgame
But then they starve....
Sashimi_taco wrote...
I'm confused about dialouge. they said there were going to be twice as many lines as before. So does this mean I just have more lines of the same tree?
ciaweth wrote...
But the game IS out, pretty much. There's footage and audio files and all that, all out there in the open.SleepingDragon3 wrote...
ciaweth wrote...
SleepingDragon3 wrote...
I view video games as art and artists don't just create their work for others but also for themselves. This is how Mac Walters wanted to end Mass Effect and even if I don't like it I respect his wishes. Allright i'm pretty much done here so I'll end this by wishes everyone a happy Tuesday and good hunting.
Whether or not video games are art is neither here nor there. Art gets critiqued all the time.
Mac Walters doesn't owe us anything (except maybe some hours of our
lives back), but we're still free to criticize as we please, provided we
follow the forum posting rules. Perhaps if you don't want to see our
criticisms, you shouldn't read this thread.
Hey I'm all for critique I love reviews. I just don't agree with all the nerdrage before the game is even out. And to answer your last question I don't visit this site nearly as much as I used to.
Elegana wrote...
To re-rail this thread, I'm putting this out here:
"Long post - and it's all about lore stuff and the relay network, so if your problem is the LI stuff, I feel your pain, but this isn't the topic for that.
I wanted to clear up a few misconceptions I've seen around here and on BSN. First, a disclaimer: I haven't played ME3 yet, and I'm going off of what the leaks are saying about the endings, particularly the destroy ending, but I guess the others too, though I'm not as clear on what exactly happens in those.
OK... there seem to be a lot of people with a reaction of "The galaxy is doomed forever!" Or, at least, for thousands upon thousands of years, based on the destruction of the relay network. But, lore-wise, there's no reason to believe that's the case.
First, let's establish what exactly happens in the ending, according to the leaks. Synthetic life is eradicated. The relays, in the process, essentially "overload" (seems like the best analogy I can come up with - they don't go supernova like the one in Arrival did). Contrary to what some chicken little types are saying, element zero isn't eliminated/neutralized. Mass effect technology, including conventional FTL, is not affected. We are not reduced to bows and frickin' arrows.
Second, let's explain the epilogue in terms of the larger technological picture. Now, there's an interesting theory that it's not the descendants of the crew of the Normandy, but rather the result of some time-capsule VIs telling Shepard's story that Liara apparently said she was going to distribute all over the place. Interesting, but for the sake of this argument, lets say it is the descendants of the Normandy crew. With the relays being destroyed and them ending up god-knows-where without any method of interstellar travel or FTL communications, even if everything got back to being hunky-dory in the next couple of years around the galaxy, it would still be like looking for a needle in a haystack. The galaxy is HUGE.
As for the rest of the galaxy, I don't think it would take that long to rebuild. At least they have blowed-up relays to study now - decent enough chance they could figure out how to build new ones. We know that he Protheans were pretty close to figuring out mass relay technology when the Reapers attacked, and managed to build a small-scale one eventually - the Conduit. Additionally, the FTL comm buoys, which were built by the citadel races, are stated in the codex to essentially be primitive mass relays. So, we have the concept pretty well in hand. If you remember, Matriarch Aethyta at one point pushed for more relays to be built. It's almost certainly feasible in even a relatively short period of time - the reason it wasn't worked on more before is probably simple economics, since they already had a pretty comprehensive network.
Also, some people are vastly underselling the effectiveness of conventional FTL in this universe. According to the wiki at least, it's about 12 light years a day. That would mean getting to Noveria (in the Horse Head Nebula) in about 4 months. Illium (in the Crescent Nebula) in about 14 months. It's a bit of a haul, sure, but it's feasible, at least to be able to share information and scientific progress. The biggest problem you'd run into isn't so much getting there in general, it's finding enough good places to discharge your drive core along the way, since a lot of the route probably isn't mapped.
With a major multi-species focus on the field, it wouldn't be too surprising to see at least small-scale relays like the Conduit, capable of transmitting communications and maybe people and supplies in relatively limited amounts, within a few short years."
Source: http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62134320
This. It's unnecessary drama in my opinion. But hey...they got a lot of scrap metal and most likely Eezo, Tali can make it do precision jumps in no time yes? Maybe there's hope? *deep sigh*ciaweth wrote...
That is what just guts me. That Normandy thing.DifferentD17 wrote...
Elegana wrote...
Uh, wow. That makes the endings slightly better.Bebbe777 wrote...
Well, according to a new thread in the spoiler section. Garrus and Tali hook up if they are not your LI and they both are alive after endgame
But then they starve....
Until they eat each other, if you know what I mean... Hannibal style.DifferentD17 wrote...
Elegana wrote...
Uh, wow. That makes the endings slightly better.Bebbe777 wrote...
Well, according to a new thread in the spoiler section. Garrus and Tali hook up if they are not your LI and they both are alive after endgame
But then they starve....
THat is somewhat a concern - the real issue is Sheppard deserves to live, with his crew, his friends, and with his L1. This cut scene BS is lazy, pointless, and dumb - just get me my opportunity for the above, that chance for life - we'll take care of rebuilding.Elegana wrote...
To re-rail this thread, I'm putting this out here:
"Long post - and it's all about lore stuff and the relay network, so if your problem is the LI stuff, I feel your pain, but this isn't the topic for that.
I wanted to clear up a few misconceptions I've seen around here and on BSN. First, a disclaimer: I haven't played ME3 yet, and I'm going off of what the leaks are saying about the endings, particularly the destroy ending, but I guess the others too, though I'm not as clear on what exactly happens in those.
OK... there seem to be a lot of people with a reaction of "The galaxy is doomed forever!" Or, at least, for thousands upon thousands of years, based on the destruction of the relay network. But, lore-wise, there's no reason to believe that's the case.
First, let's establish what exactly happens in the ending, according to the leaks. Synthetic life is eradicated. The relays, in the process, essentially "overload" (seems like the best analogy I can come up with - they don't go supernova like the one in Arrival did). Contrary to what some chicken little types are saying, element zero isn't eliminated/neutralized. Mass effect technology, including conventional FTL, is not affected. We are not reduced to bows and frickin' arrows.
Second, let's explain the epilogue in terms of the larger technological picture. Now, there's an interesting theory that it's not the descendants of the crew of the Normandy, but rather the result of some time-capsule VIs telling Shepard's story that Liara apparently said she was going to distribute all over the place. Interesting, but for the sake of this argument, lets say it is the descendants of the Normandy crew. With the relays being destroyed and them ending up god-knows-where without any method of interstellar travel or FTL communications, even if everything got back to being hunky-dory in the next couple of years around the galaxy, it would still be like looking for a needle in a haystack. The galaxy is HUGE.
As for the rest of the galaxy, I don't think it would take that long to rebuild. At least they have blowed-up relays to study now - decent enough chance they could figure out how to build new ones. We know that he Protheans were pretty close to figuring out mass relay technology when the Reapers attacked, and managed to build a small-scale one eventually - the Conduit. Additionally, the FTL comm buoys, which were built by the citadel races, are stated in the codex to essentially be primitive mass relays. So, we have the concept pretty well in hand. If you remember, Matriarch Aethyta at one point pushed for more relays to be built. It's almost certainly feasible in even a relatively short period of time - the reason it wasn't worked on more before is probably simple economics, since they already had a pretty comprehensive network.
Also, some people are vastly underselling the effectiveness of conventional FTL in this universe. According to the wiki at least, it's about 12 light years a day. That would mean getting to Noveria (in the Horse Head Nebula) in about 4 months. Illium (in the Crescent Nebula) in about 14 months. It's a bit of a haul, sure, but it's feasible, at least to be able to share information and scientific progress. The biggest problem you'd run into isn't so much getting there in general, it's finding enough good places to discharge your drive core along the way, since a lot of the route probably isn't mapped.
With a major multi-species focus on the field, it wouldn't be too surprising to see at least small-scale relays like the Conduit, capable of transmitting communications and maybe people and supplies in relatively limited amounts, within a few short years."
Source: http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62134320
Johnnycide wrote...
Until they eat each other, if you know what I mean... Hannibal style.DifferentD17 wrote...
Elegana wrote...
Uh, wow. That makes the endings slightly better.Bebbe777 wrote...
Well, according to a new thread in the spoiler section. Garrus and Tali hook up if they are not your LI and they both are alive after endgame
But then they starve....
Bebbe777 wrote...
Well, according to a new thread in the spoiler section. Garrus and Tali hook up if they are not your LI and they both are alive after endgame
... Thats what all those elevator conversations in ME1 were really about! Tali is cheating on Shepard lmao 
. Obvs joking I know you said if they are not your LI
recentio wrote...
Elegana wrote...
To re-rail this thread, I'm putting this out here:
"Long post - and it's all about lore stuff and the relay network, so if your problem is the LI stuff, I feel your pain, but this isn't the topic for that.
I wanted to clear up a few misconceptions I've seen around here and on BSN. First, a disclaimer: I haven't played ME3 yet, and I'm going off of what the leaks are saying about the endings, particularly the destroy ending, but I guess the others too, though I'm not as clear on what exactly happens in those.
OK... there seem to be a lot of people with a reaction of "The galaxy is doomed forever!" Or, at least, for thousands upon thousands of years, based on the destruction of the relay network. But, lore-wise, there's no reason to believe that's the case.
First, let's establish what exactly happens in the ending, according to the leaks. Synthetic life is eradicated. The relays, in the process, essentially "overload" (seems like the best analogy I can come up with - they don't go supernova like the one in Arrival did). Contrary to what some chicken little types are saying, element zero isn't eliminated/neutralized. Mass effect technology, including conventional FTL, is not affected. We are not reduced to bows and frickin' arrows.
Second, let's explain the epilogue in terms of the larger technological picture. Now, there's an interesting theory that it's not the descendants of the crew of the Normandy, but rather the result of some time-capsule VIs telling Shepard's story that Liara apparently said she was going to distribute all over the place. Interesting, but for the sake of this argument, lets say it is the descendants of the Normandy crew. With the relays being destroyed and them ending up god-knows-where without any method of interstellar travel or FTL communications, even if everything got back to being hunky-dory in the next couple of years around the galaxy, it would still be like looking for a needle in a haystack. The galaxy is HUGE.
As for the rest of the galaxy, I don't think it would take that long to rebuild. At least they have blowed-up relays to study now - decent enough chance they could figure out how to build new ones. We know that he Protheans were pretty close to figuring out mass relay technology when the Reapers attacked, and managed to build a small-scale one eventually - the Conduit. Additionally, the FTL comm buoys, which were built by the citadel races, are stated in the codex to essentially be primitive mass relays. So, we have the concept pretty well in hand. If you remember, Matriarch Aethyta at one point pushed for more relays to be built. It's almost certainly feasible in even a relatively short period of time - the reason it wasn't worked on more before is probably simple economics, since they already had a pretty comprehensive network.
Also, some people are vastly underselling the effectiveness of conventional FTL in this universe. According to the wiki at least, it's about 12 light years a day. That would mean getting to Noveria (in the Horse Head Nebula) in about 4 months. Illium (in the Crescent Nebula) in about 14 months. It's a bit of a haul, sure, but it's feasible, at least to be able to share information and scientific progress. The biggest problem you'd run into isn't so much getting there in general, it's finding enough good places to discharge your drive core along the way, since a lot of the route probably isn't mapped.
With a major multi-species focus on the field, it wouldn't be too surprising to see at least small-scale relays like the Conduit, capable of transmitting communications and maybe people and supplies in relatively limited amounts, within a few short years."
Source: http://www.gamefaqs....fect-3/62134320
We should not have to make up a whole wall of text to make the ending not horrible. That's supposed to be BW's job -- to write a solid conclusion and answer all the questions in a "satisfactory" way. Instead we are left with desparate fanwanking on at least a dozen open problems at the end.
albertalad wrote...
THat is somewhat a concern - the real issue is Sheppard deserves to live, with his crew, his friends, and with his L1. This cut scene BS is lazy, pointless, and dumb - just get me my opportunity for the above, that chance for life - we'll take care of rebuilding.Elegana wrote...
Speaking of which anyone have links to the images for what the BF3 amor looks like?mass_zotz wrote...
Its still bioware's fault for doing this but I believe EA corrupted them and "ohhhhhhh we need the cod crowd." WTF you already have BF3!
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