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#12726
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Johnnycide wrote...

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Goddamnit. Why can't we have both long, interesting discusions with people/party members and fun combat too? Not one or the other. It gives them more character and brings more info into the story as well.
None of that for ME3 then huh? Seems like this is becoming a fully action game over a story-driven game now.
...
Looks like I might have to go into the Story setting to get the full story-line... unless that's just the RPG setting without much combat difficulty.

Because your standard CoD player has the attention span of a goldfish, and you know how much money they could save on Voice Acting if they don't have them do lines that only non-CoD players will actually hear?


Let's not start trashing other people who play another game. Especially if it's a lie. That kind of talk could get the thread locked.

#12727
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Ready to be P!ssed off again? The Story mode is basicly the Same as RPG mode just on a very easy combat difficulty setteing like you said.
I wish this was a joke but it's not it's all true


Wait what? Then why not just add a Hello Kitty Island Adventure difficulty setting? Why lie about a whole other game mode?

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Kyzo wrote...

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Too bad the dialogue isn't more like the one I presented.
And Think that was just for one major Conversation fans may want to have about an important choice they may or may not have made

Image all the other autodialogue conversations that take place with little to no involvement from the player.

Right at the moment I can only imagine that with a conversation with Kaiden/Ashley.


Johnnycide wrote...

Kyzo wrote...

Goddamnit.
Why can't we have both long, interesting discusions with people/party
members and fun combat too? Not one or the other. It gives them more
character and brings more info into the story as well.
None of that for ME3 then huh? Seems like this is becoming a fully action game over a story-driven game now.
...
Looks
like I might have to go into the Story setting to get the full
story-line... unless that's just the RPG setting without much combat
difficulty.

Because your standard CoD player has the
attention span of a goldfish, and you know how much money they could
save on Voice Acting if they don't have them do lines that only non-CoD
players will actually hear?

Which would probably explain a few other things about ME3 that people don't like/find odd as well.


Ready for another fun bit of info? This is more of me bragging but that conversastion I typed up was done in roughly 5 minutes based off how My Main Shepard's story has gone and what I'd want to say to Anderson about the whole thing.

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Johnnycide wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Ready to be P!ssed off again? The Story mode is basicly the Same as RPG mode just on a very easy combat difficulty setteing like you said.
I wish this was a joke but it's not it's all true


Wait what? Then why not just add a Hello Kitty Island Adventure difficulty setting? Why lie about a whole other game mode?


Hey now, Hello Kitty Island Adventure is one of the most hardcore games on the planet. It's punishing, brutal, and it takes no prisoners. It is not a game to take lightly.

#12730
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blooregard wrote...

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I figure if the streamers on youtube haven't streamed the ending yet there's a slim chance bioware is just trollin us for teh lulz and they've been behind the "leaks" allowing all this bad stuff to pour out and fill our heads with doubt but if the streamers have already shown the ending then we're all doomed


It's that thought that helps me sleep in the mean time.

Maybe all of these leaks are false. Maybe Bioware knew that the endings would be the end all and be all of the series. Maybe there are actually dozens of ending permutations out there and in order to prevent them from being released they allowed the release of only a few to keep people tied up so that the majority wouldn't be spoiled. Sort of like a lizard dropping its tail so it can get away -- release some endings so the others don't get exposed.

I do similar things with friends and movies. Whenever someone asks me about some details of a movie and I tell three or four ridiculous things so that if I ever reveal the actual thing they won't believe it.

Someone asked me about Harry Potter and I told them the last book is a coming out story where Harry marries Lucius. Then I told them I lied and Hermione marries Ginny. Then I told them I lied and Voldemort is actually Jesus. 

It's convluted yes -- also very unlikely.



its just the amount bioware throwing out the actual ME3 script and saying "pfft what story" just doesn't seem right. Grant it I may still be in denial but what kind of writing team writes themselves into a death trap filled with spikes, snakes, quicksand, and acid claiming they'll explain everything, there will be multiple endings, and there will be no loose ends by leaving gaping plot holes such as most of ME2 and the "AI controls the reapers from the citadel...but needs reapers to do stuff themselves"
if bioware is truely trolling us they deserve a gold medal and a place as the first olympic trolling team because they are good

I'm hoping. I'm hoping I'm hoping I'm hoping.

How much would it really cost to make fake endings? Have the VA's do a few more lines of dialoge. Given that all the 'different' endings presented are essentially the same I imagine not much.

The whole end scene = google winter space, leads me to believe that BioWare wouldn't be that lazy in crafting the end sequences.

Someone among the writers or developers must have known that this would ****** off a lot of people. Someone must have known the ire it would raise. Someone among them must have raised is hand and said, 'what if people want a happy end,' and then reason would have descended upon them and revealed that a game about choice should have varried conclusions.

And then after carefully crafting those conclusions, decided that the best way to hide them until the official release was to allow the release of false endings and reports.

I know I'm grasping at straws. You don't need to tell me. I know I'm doing it. And it makes me sad.

#12731
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Johnnycide wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

Ready to be P!ssed off again? The Story mode is basicly the Same as RPG mode just on a very easy combat difficulty setteing like you said.
I wish this was a joke but it's not it's all true


Wait what? Then why not just add a Hello Kitty Island Adventure difficulty setting? Why lie about a whole other game mode?


Because BW wants the good old main ME Fan Base to see these options and be like well maybe I'll try story mode only that too is a con cop out.

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I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

#12733
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gearseffect wrote...
Ready to be P!ssed off again? The Story mode is basicly the Same as RPG mode just on a very easy combat difficulty setteing like you said.
I wish this was a joke but it's not it's all true


Didn't everyone say (players) that that's what Story mode would be? :huh:

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R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Haha robot sex is more important to the pilot than piloting the ship. I love you Joker.

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CommanderCoffee wrote...


Hey now, Hello Kitty Island Adventure is one of the most hardcore games on the planet. It's punishing, brutal, and it takes no prisoners. It is not a game to take lightly.


Hello Kitty Island Adventure is NOT A GAME. I lost friends there. Good friends.

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R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

#12737
curelightwounds

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CommanderCoffee wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Haha robot sex is more important to the pilot than piloting the ship. I love you Joker.

Oh.. oh god no... what if... what if Joker screws the crew over by abandoning Shepherd during the final choice to save his one true love... EDI... no... please don't be that. Hell I'll accept the ****ty endings as long as it's not that.

#12738
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curelightwounds wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...


Hey now, Hello Kitty Island Adventure is one of the most hardcore games on the planet. It's punishing, brutal, and it takes no prisoners. It is not a game to take lightly.


Hello Kitty Island Adventure is NOT A GAME. I lost friends there. Good friends.


My family is dead because of HKIA. Never forget.

#12739
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R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Well we knew about that.

But Joker acting completely OOC will actually make it easier to disregard the endings entirely.

#12740
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R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Shouldn't you be crying yourself to sleep yet? :P

But seriously, if that's true it wouldn't make any sense. I mean based on the character they portrayed with Joker. He was your loyal pilot. He helped you steal the Normandy in ME1 just to chase down Saren against suicidal odds, he stayed aboard the Normandy as it was about to go down, he joined you with Cerberus for another suicide mission. Hell, even with his glass bones stood at the airlock firing an assault rifle to cover your escape. To make him suddenly become a coward wouldn't make any sense at all.

#12741
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curelightwounds wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Haha robot sex is more important to the pilot than piloting the ship. I love you Joker.

Oh.. oh god no... what if... what if Joker screws the crew over by abandoning Shepherd during the final choice to save his one true love... EDI... no... please don't be that. Hell I'll accept the ****ty endings as long as it's not that.


If I play the game I am gonna KILL Joker in this game. Worst friend ever.

Modifié par mass_zotz, 05 mars 2012 - 08:32 .


#12742
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gearseffect wrote...

Kyzo wrote...

Broder O wrote...

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

I've seen some in game playtroughs on youtube and the amount of autodialogue is enough for me to not like this ME experience alone, the lack of player involvement in conversations is sad. The whole time I play ME3 it's gonna feel like an out of body experience.

I'm gonna be just way too removed and distanced from it all.

I want to ask Anderson "What the Hell are you doing here your a member of the council"
And when he reply's with "I resigned I couldn't take it anymore, Politics it's not me"

I want to chose from these options: Investigate, Top Paragon; "Good it was never you, I'd much rather have you next to me in the battle"
middle neutral: "I support ya either way"
and bottom Renegade: "So you spit in my face than. I nominated you for a reason"

Investigate options: What happen that made you resign? Get told a story about him "being sick of the blind eye act, and it came to a head with the Grayson Affair and the Council terming you as a terrorist for working with Cerberus"
SO who is the new human Councilor? Don't tell me it's Udina?'
Anderson Replys with "He was always the Politician, and half the time he got things done for me, He know who to talk too, how to work the angles, and in some cases how to save his own @ss"
Reply to that with "Which leads to Udina getting punched in the face in some case"
Anderson Laughs
Ask if my standing with the council is going to be worse with Udina a member
Anderson 'I can't say but I told him that he should remember he owes you more than a few favors"

But I don't think I get any choice in talking about this it's just handle for me if at all.

Oh god I hope that's only for the Action setting. If it's like that for both the RPG and Story settings...


No apparantely that IS the deep engaging traditional RPG version..
In the Action!Mode you don't need to make any choices at all.. awesome, huh?

Goddamnit. Why can't we have both long, interesting discusions with people/party members and fun combat too? Not one or the other. It gives them more character and brings more info into the story as well.
None of that for ME3 then huh? Seems like this is becoming a fully action game over a story-driven game now.
...
Looks like I might have to go into the Story setting to get the full story-line... unless that's just the RPG setting without much combat difficulty.


Ready to be P!ssed off again? The Story mode is basicly the Same as RPG mode just on a very easy combat difficulty setteing like you said.
I wish this was a joke but it's not it's all true

Man, and I was hoping that was a joke too. I knew it did have easier combat difficulty to RPG but was expecting something a bit more then that. I remember spending so much time between missions in ME1 and ME2 just talking to everyone, trying to learn about each character you get thus making you more emotionally attached to them.

#12743
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Karrie788 wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Well we knew about that.

But Joker acting completely OOC will actually make it easier to disregard the endings entirely.


Pretty much like reading Deception. You sure Dietz didn't write the endings?

#12744
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There is NO logical, mechanical reason for EDI not to look like a walking Swiss Knife. She could be a hovering bot with several arms, a construct ready to face any situation.

But no, she has to have those looks because Bioware needs to sell to that COD demographic and 'drool drool waifu' players.

If that isn't sexist, and that isn't treating women like objects, I don't know what is.

This. Seriously, among all my myriad complaints about ME3, this is one of the biggest ones. The phrase "EDI needed to look sexy" sums up the problems with BioWare's creative direction.

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mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.


Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

#12746
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If these endings are true I may play through again as a twisted Lovecraftian hero.

I must kill you all -- All of you. I must kill you to spare you the inevitable, infinite, writhing madness.

#12747
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mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.


Well unless I kill everything, and I just might...but that's not what I meant. Regardless of what'd I like to believe...regardless of my stupid hopes for ME3 I WILL NOT BELIEVE Joker abandoned Shepard for ...for what?? I dont even know.

I mean getting caught in the blast in the mass relay fallout and getting teleported (or w.e) and crash landing is horrible, but that the entire reason it happened is because Joker ran away? How in any interpreation of ME does that not scream OOC????

#12748
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gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)


Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.


Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!


Seriously, there must be something we're missing here, because Joker would NEVER do such a thing. Does anybody know the context?

#12749
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curelightwounds wrote...

If these endings are true I may play through again as a twisted Lovecraftian hero.

I must kill you all -- All of you. I must kill you to spare you the inevitable, infinite, writhing madness.

Or I'll play up to right before the ending, save the game, and turn it off.

#12750
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mass_zotz wrote...

If I play the game I am gonna KILL Joker in this game. Worst friend ever.


Bros before hoes, Joker. Bros before hoes.