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[gearseffect]

nicocap24 wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Well we knew about that.

But Joker acting completely OOC will actually make it easier to disregard the endings entirely.

Pretty much like reading Deception. You sure Dietz didn't write the endings?

I'm starting to think that BW really liked how he wrote Deception and they were doing a great job with ME3 and Dietz was going to be a warm up to the epic fail of writing in ME3.
They've been testing us all along with Dietz book and everything

[CerberusSoldier]

Oh I am playing story mode and and on narrative setting as well . I want to mine this game for achievement points and interact with my fav characters outside of that . I do not give a dam about Bioware or their sick and disgusting story telling ways . but I want them to hear this I will never buy another game from them ever again . Oh and Bioware stay the hell away from the Sci Fi genre you have no idea on what makes it work . you are better off doing fantasy games

[rpgfan321]

I will wait until I play my copy to make a final opinion about the ending. Honestly, I wanted this kind of ending, but let's see how it goes after everyone plays.

[curelightwounds]

R0X13 wrote...


Well unless I kill everything, and I just might...but that's not what I meant. Regardless of what'd I like to believe...regardless of my stupid hopes for ME3 I WILL NOT BELIEVE Joker abandoned Shepard for ...for what?? I dont even know.

I mean getting caught in the blast in the mass relay fallout and getting teleported (or w.e) and crash landing is horrible, but that the entire reason it happened is because Joker ran away? How in any interpreation of ME does that not scream OOC????

But what if he does it for love? Wouldn't you doom the Universe for love?

[blooregard]

curelightwounds wrote...

blooregard wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

blooregard wrote...

I figure if the streamers on youtube haven't streamed the ending yet there's a slim chance bioware is just trollin us for teh lulz and they've been behind the "leaks" allowing all this bad stuff to pour out and fill our heads with doubt but if the streamers have already shown the ending then we're all doomed

It's that thought that helps me sleep in the mean time.

Maybe all of these leaks are false. Maybe Bioware knew that the endings would be the end all and be all of the series. Maybe there are actually dozens of ending permutations out there and in order to prevent them from being released they allowed the release of only a few to keep people tied up so that the majority wouldn't be spoiled. Sort of like a lizard dropping its tail so it can get away -- release some endings so the others don't get exposed.

I do similar things with friends and movies. Whenever someone asks me about some details of a movie and I tell three or four ridiculous things so that if I ever reveal the actual thing they won't believe it.

Someone asked me about Harry Potter and I told them the last book is a coming out story where Harry marries Lucius. Then I told them I lied and Hermione marries Ginny. Then I told them I lied and Voldemort is actually Jesus. 

It's convluted yes -- also very unlikely.

its just the amount bioware throwing out the actual ME3 script and saying "pfft what story" just doesn't seem right. Grant it I may still be in denial but what kind of writing team writes themselves into a death trap filled with spikes, snakes, quicksand, and acid claiming they'll explain everything, there will be multiple endings, and there will be no loose ends by leaving gaping plot holes such as most of ME2 and the "AI controls the reapers from the citadel...but needs reapers to do stuff themselves"
if bioware is truely trolling us they deserve a gold medal and a place as the first olympic trolling team because they are good

I'm hoping. I'm hoping I'm hoping I'm hoping.

How much would it really cost to make fake endings? Have the VA's do a few more lines of dialoge. Given that all the 'different' endings presented are essentially the same I imagine not much.

The whole end scene = google winter space, leads me to believe that BioWare wouldn't be that lazy in crafting the end sequences.

Someone among the writers or developers must have known that this would ****** off a lot of people. Someone must have known the ire it would raise. Someone among them must have raised is hand and said, 'what if people want a happy end,' and then reason would have descended upon them and revealed that a game about choice should have varried conclusions.

And then after carefully crafting those conclusions, decided that the best way to hide them until the official release was to allow the release of false endings and reports.

I know I'm grasping at straws. You don't need to tell me. I know I'm doing it. And it makes me sad.

while some of the dialouge could be legit (anderson and garrus) it just feels like bioware knows better I mean they've made damn good games before and have probably seen the s***storm from DA2 I can't fathom the writers are that stupid without hearing they've been fired


sadly the most negative evidence agaisnt my hopes is the guide unless they made a few random clippings from the guide to help with this but that would be a bit of a stretch

[Johnnycide]

Karrie788 wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

Seriously, there must be something we're missing here, because Joker would NEVER do such a thing. Does anybody know the context?

That's what I'd hope for, some reason, some excuse for why Joker would abandon Shepard. It'd have to be a damn good reason too cause the way they made Joker, he wouldn't buy the whole "Get these people safe." routine.

[Kyzo]

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

[R0X13]

curelightwounds wrote...

If these endings are true I may play through again as a twisted Lovecraftian hero.

I must kill you all -- All of you. I must kill you to spare you the inevitable, infinite, writhing madness.

I will, I kill all of them...I will destroy the whole bloody galaxy...I will bathe in their blood and tears...

[MythicLegands]

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

He has her on vibrate .

[Karrie788]

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

I sincerely hope it's not because he wants to save his beloved sexbot. If it is I fear my computer will crash into a wall.

[NubXL]

I'll hold my opinion on the overall ending until I actually play it, since a lot of people just seem to be upset that there's no happy ending. I don't mind that at all.

However, the origin of the Reapers is pretty ridiculous.

"YO DAWG, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".

[blooregard]

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

he may not be running away as much as he's trying to get to the citadel? I mean sheard is on the citadel when the ending takes place right?

[nicocap24]

curelightwounds wrote...

R0X13 wrote...


Well unless I kill everything, and I just might...but that's not what I meant. Regardless of what'd I like to believe...regardless of my stupid hopes for ME3 I WILL NOT BELIEVE Joker abandoned Shepard for ...for what?? I dont even know.

I mean getting caught in the blast in the mass relay fallout and getting teleported (or w.e) and crash landing is horrible, but that the entire reason it happened is because Joker ran away? How in any interpreation of ME does that not scream OOC????

But what if he does it for love? Wouldn't you doom the Universe for love?

Right, especially for weird robot love

[recentio]

Johnnycide wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

recentio wrote...

And (bad news) teleport is not a bug. Not sure if that confirms it as a "feature," though.

Damn it. I feel like crying again.

So if that's not a bug is it also not a bug that other LI like Jack/Miranda/Garrus/Tali also don't have flashbacks and it defaults to Liara? So during those romances you were secretly lusting after Liara the whole time?

I think the only way to ****** that is to say Liara was Sheps friend. I mean, the first two flashbacks are Joker and Anderson. No reason she has to suddenly be a "romantic" flashback.

[Johnnycide]

blooregard wrote...

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

he may not be running away as much as he's trying to get to the citadel? I mean sheard is on the citadel when the ending takes place right?

The citadel was apparently parked at Earth... I know space magic.

[curelightwounds]

blooregard wrote...

while some of the dialouge could be legit (anderson and garrus) it just feels like bioware knows better I mean they've made damn good games before and have probably seen the s***storm from DA2 I can't fathom the writers are that stupid without hearing they've been fired


sadly the most negative evidence agaisnt my hopes is the guide unless they made a few random clippings from the guide to help with this but that would be a bit of a stretch

What if it's all part of a misinformation campaign? What if this was a test to see how they could better protect games avaliable for pre-release downloads from being cracked and spoiled? What if everything is actually going to be alright?

... oh god, how long have I been wearing this tin-foil hat?

[nicocap24]

NubXL wrote...

I'll hold my opinion on the overall ending until I actually play it, since a lot of people just seem to be upset that there's no happy ending. I don't mind that at all.

However, the origin of the Reapers is pretty ridiculous.

"YO DAWG, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".

That's the biggest problem in my opinion

[Johnnycide]

recentio wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

recentio wrote...

And (bad news) teleport is not a bug. Not sure if that confirms it as a "feature," though.

Damn it. I feel like crying again.

So if that's not a bug is it also not a bug that other LI like Jack/Miranda/Garrus/Tali also don't have flashbacks and it defaults to Liara? So during those romances you were secretly lusting after Liara the whole time?

I think the only way to ****** that is to say Liara was Sheps friend. I mean, the first two flashbacks are Joker and Anderson. No reason she has to suddenly be a "romantic" flashback.

Right before your death you'd see the face of someone who was your friend instead of your lover... Sounds legit?

[curelightwounds]

nicocap24 wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

But what if he does it for love? Wouldn't you doom the Universe for love?

Right, especially for weird robot love

thisismyfetish.jpg

[Jackal7713]

Johnnycide wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Shouldn't you be crying yourself to sleep yet? 

But seriously, if that's true it wouldn't make any sense. I mean based on the character they portrayed with Joker. He was your loyal pilot. He helped you steal the Normandy in ME1 just to chase down Saren against suicidal odds, he stayed aboard the Normandy as it was about to go down, he joined you with Cerberus for another suicide mission. Hell, even with his glass bones stood at the airlock firing an assault rifle to cover your escape. To make him suddenly become a coward wouldn't make any sense at all.

REALLY???  WHO WAS WRITING FOR THIS GAME?  This is worse then nuking the fridge.

Modifié par Jackal7713, 05 mars 2012 - 08:47 .

[blooregard]

curelightwounds wrote...

blooregard wrote...

while some of the dialouge could be legit (anderson and garrus) it just feels like bioware knows better I mean they've made damn good games before and have probably seen the s***storm from DA2 I can't fathom the writers are that stupid without hearing they've been fired


sadly the most negative evidence agaisnt my hopes is the guide unless they made a few random clippings from the guide to help with this but that would be a bit of a stretch

What if it's all part of a misinformation campaign? What if this was a test to see how they could better protect games avaliable for pre-release downloads from being cracked and spoiled? What if everything is actually going to be alright?

... oh god, how long have I been wearing this tin-foil hat?

only way to find out: go to midnight release don't sleep until you find something worth a crap and a half

BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR WHOLE GALAXY

[Karrie788]

recentio wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

recentio wrote...

And (bad news) teleport is not a bug. Not sure if that confirms it as a "feature," though.

Damn it. I feel like crying again.

So if that's not a bug is it also not a bug that other LI like Jack/Miranda/Garrus/Tali also don't have flashbacks and it defaults to Liara? So during those romances you were secretly lusting after Liara the whole time?

I think the only way to ****** that is to say Liara was Sheps friend. I mean, the first two flashbacks are Joker and Anderson. No reason she has to suddenly be a "romantic" flashback.

That pisses me off. Sorry if I seem harsh, but I roleplay a Shepard who is absolutely horrified by the fact that Liara sold her body to Cerberus. I really DON'T want to see her in a flashback.
I hate forced friendships in ME. There were quite a lot in ME2.

[Kyzo]

Johnnycide wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

he may not be running away as much as he's trying to get to the citadel? I mean sheard is on the citadel when the ending takes place right?

The citadel was apparently parked at Earth... I know space magic.

Even then. How would have Shepard got onto the Citadel without informing the Normady or even using the Normady to get to the Cidadel?

[lucidfox]

NubXL wrote...

However, the origin of the Reapers is pretty ridiculous.

"YO DAWG, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".

Where is this from?

Can I have a link to the whole script, if there was a new leak since that beta script leak?

[jellobell]

curelightwounds wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Haha robot sex is more important to the pilot than piloting the ship. I love you Joker.

Oh.. oh god no... what if... what if Joker screws the crew over by abandoning Shepherd during the final choice to save his one true love... EDI... no... please don't be that. Hell I'll accept the ****ty endings as long as it's not that.

If that's the case then I'm picking Destroy every time. If I don't get to end up with my LI then Joker sure as hell doesn't get to end up with his.