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[recentio]

Johnnycide wrote...

recentio wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

recentio wrote...

And (bad news) teleport is not a bug. Not sure if that confirms it as a "feature," though.

Damn it. I feel like crying again.

So if that's not a bug is it also not a bug that other LI like Jack/Miranda/Garrus/Tali also don't have flashbacks and it defaults to Liara? So during those romances you were secretly lusting after Liara the whole time?

I think the only way to ****** that is to say Liara was Sheps friend. I mean, the first two flashbacks are Joker and Anderson. No reason she has to suddenly be a "romantic" flashback.

Right before your death you'd see the face of someone who was your friend instead of your lover... Sounds legit?

Well you just saw the face of your pilot and commanding officer...I'd say yes. Wierd as that may be.

[Karrie788]

lucidfox wrote...

NubXL wrote...

However, the origin of the Reapers is pretty ridiculous.

"YO DAWG, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".

Where is this from?

Can I have a link to the whole script, if there was a new leak since that beta script leak?

Well I don't have the script, but here you go : 

[Johnnycide]

[quote]Kyzo wrote...

[quote]Johnnycide wrote...

[quote]blooregard wrote...

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?
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he may not be running away as much as he's trying to get to the citadel? I mean sheard is on the citadel when the ending takes place right?[/quote] The citadel was apparently parked at Earth... I know space magic.
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Even then. How would have Shepard got onto the Citadel without informing the Normady or even using the Normady to get to the Cidadel?
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It wouldn't explain why he used a Mass Relay then... but for arguments sake... Space Magic.

[nicocap24]

jellobell wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Haha robot sex is more important to the pilot than piloting the ship. I love you Joker.

Oh.. oh god no... what if... what if Joker screws the crew over by abandoning Shepherd during the final choice to save his one true love... EDI... no... please don't be that. Hell I'll accept the ****ty endings as long as it's not that.

If that's the case then I'm picking Destroy every time. If I don't get to end up with my LI then Joker sure as hell doesn't get to end up with his.

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

[Intomydimension]

Johnnycide wrote...

Intomydimension wrote...

So what is the problem with the endings? Is it the destruction of all the mass relays? (Unknown) ?  Or what? I don't see anything wrong with the endings, the mass relays being destroyed confuse me but, the classic happy endings in this great saga would be generic. and less interesting and suprising.

Even if we really have 7 endings: destroy, control, and synthesis, we don't know what happened to the Earth or Shepard.

Lets wait to play to the ending, chaps, righto. (Ok so I took creative license with that one) 

P.S.: I am sorry for my poor English , I don't know how to write, and I don't speak English.

Here let me try to fix this mess for you. My god that was a mess.

A large problem with the endings is that they are independent of what you chose to do in past games. They are also contrary to what we were promised by Bioware (a unique story resulting in unique endings, etc.). A lot of people (myself included) are having a hard time understanding many of the leaps in logic with the endings as well.

first of all thanks for correcting me.
I ask you was, but it seems that you have removed in the correction.
I understand perfectly, but remains to be seen whether these choices affect the game through what I think.
are supposedly 7 finals, 3 of them major supposedly already know that change would fail to see in others.
I see a lot of complaints when necessary to see if those decisions that affect many want to finish, and have been used through the game, whether recruiting, convenser, or destroy something or whatever.
someone give me an idea of what people want to go, based on decisions made in Mass Effect 1 and 2, apart from a separate final decisions, which is the same as deus ex HR.
and the final missing is the knowledge that new decisions are taken throughout the game.
So if it seems a waste is the reason why the reapers kill advanced organic life every 50,000 years, makes no sense and was what most bothered me to, maybe you have something on purpose to explain past.
the rest of the grandfather telling the story to the child, although it is a little weird or just absolutely absurd to me, it all really happened
PD: i used google traductor 

[NubXL]

lucidfox wrote...

NubXL wrote...

However, the origin of the Reapers is pretty ridiculous.

"YO DAWG, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".

Where is this from?

Can I have a link to the whole script, if there was a new leak since that beta script leak?

Some thread around here, and also this vid.

[Johnnycide]

curelightwounds wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

But what if he does it for love? Wouldn't you doom the Universe for love?

Right, especially for weird robot love

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Oh Joker, didn't Futurama teach you anything? Robot love is wrong. And by wrong I mean right.

[Kyzo]

nicocap24 wrote...

jellobell wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Haha robot sex is more important to the pilot than piloting the ship. I love you Joker.

Oh.. oh god no... what if... what if Joker screws the crew over by abandoning Shepherd during the final choice to save his one true love... EDI... no... please don't be that. Hell I'll accept the ****ty endings as long as it's not that.

If that's the case then I'm picking Destroy every time. If I don't get to end up with my LI then Joker sure as hell doesn't get to end up with his.

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

I figured he'd go for some alien tail or something like Shepard did... or even had him romancable for the female shepards. But an AI? Don't see it.
...
It was probably space magic.

[blooregard]

Kyzo wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

he may not be running away as much as he's trying to get to the citadel? I mean sheard is on the citadel when the ending takes place right?

The citadel was apparently parked at Earth... I know space magic.

Even then. How would have Shepard got onto the Citadel without informing the Normady or even using the Normady to get to the Cidadel?

if these are really the endings I don't care if they don't give me a good ending, I don't care if they pull "it was all a story" I don't even care if they don't fix the unavoidable plot holes. I want them to explain in depth why joker who said at the end of ME2 if you fail horribly "I won't lose you again" and even looks at impossible odds in the face and says " if this is a one way trip we're off to a good start" somebody like that doesn't run away. Hell he got up out of his fancy leather chair for the 5th time in the entire series to get as many collector kills as possible at this point turning him into a spinless panzy that gets the whole crew (who did nothing to stop him) stranded on a remote planet seems foolish in the lighest way I can put it

[Johnnycide]

nicocap24 wrote...

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

Now you're just being judgmental. It's an AI, it has a personality, maybe even dare I say it a soul. The message Bioware is trying to give is that love is love, who care's where you find it? Be it your toaster (EDI), the gym (Vega), or New Jersey (Allers).

...

Ok no its still pretty weird.

[Jackal7713]

Kyzo wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

jellobell wrote...

curelightwounds wrote...

CommanderCoffee wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Haha robot sex is more important to the pilot than piloting the ship. I love you Joker.

Oh.. oh god no... what if... what if Joker screws the crew over by abandoning Shepherd during the final choice to save his one true love... EDI... no... please don't be that. Hell I'll accept the ****ty endings as long as it's not that.

If that's the case then I'm picking Destroy every time. If I don't get to end up with my LI then Joker sure as hell doesn't get to end up with his.

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

I figured he'd go for some alien tail or something like Shepard did... or even had him romancable for the female shepards. But an AI? Don't see it.
...
It was probably space magic.

Its not just alittle space magic, its a pandemic of space magic:huh:

[Johnnycide]

blooregard wrote...

if these are really the endings I don't care if they don't give me a good ending, I don't care if they pull "it was all a story" I don't even care if they don't fix the unavoidable plot holes. I want them to explain in depth why joker who said at the end of ME2 if you fail horribly "I won't lose you again" and even looks at impossible odds in the face and says " if this is a one way trip we're off to a good start" somebody like that doesn't run away. Hell he got up out of his fancy leather chair for the 5th time in the entire series to get as many collector kills as possible at this point turning him into a spinless panzy that gets the whole crew (who did nothing to stop him) stranded on a remote planet seems foolish in the lighest way I can put it

My friend, space magic is a 2 way street. It can hurt as much as it can help.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

NubXL wrote...

However, the origin of the Reapers is pretty ridiculous.

"YO DAWG, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".

When the game comes out I'm gonna make this my signiture

[nicocap24]

Johnnycide wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

Now you're just being judgmental. It's an AI, it has a personality, maybe even dare I say it a soul. The message Bioware is trying to give is that love is love, who care's where you find it? Be it your toaster (EDI), the gym (Vega), or New Jersey (Allers).

...

Ok no its still pretty weird.

lol. I wonder how they'll manage to... you know. I mean does EDI have a... you know?

[mass_zotz]

I am gonna kill EDI just so joker can't have his happiness. Also apparently Shepard tells joker to leave but I don't if he say to run for the mass relay

[blooregard]

Johnnycide wrote...

blooregard wrote...

if these are really the endings I don't care if they don't give me a good ending, I don't care if they pull "it was all a story" I don't even care if they don't fix the unavoidable plot holes. I want them to explain in depth why joker who said at the end of ME2 if you fail horribly "I won't lose you again" and even looks at impossible odds in the face and says " if this is a one way trip we're off to a good start" somebody like that doesn't run away. Hell he got up out of his fancy leather chair for the 5th time in the entire series to get as many collector kills as possible at this point turning him into a spinless panzy that gets the whole crew (who did nothing to stop him) stranded on a remote planet seems foolish in the lighest way I can put it

My friend, space magic is a 2 way street. It can hurt as much as it can help.

explain to me the difference between normal magic and space magic. Is there an actual difference? or does space magic just sound funnier

[Kyzo]

nicocap24 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

Now you're just being judgmental. It's an AI, it has a personality, maybe even dare I say it a soul. The message Bioware is trying to give is that love is love, who care's where you find it? Be it your toaster (EDI), the gym (Vega), or New Jersey (Allers).

...

Ok no its still pretty weird.

lol. I wonder how they'll manage to... you know. I mean does EDI have a... you know?

It has breasts... I'm pretty sure it has that too.

[Broder O]

Johnnycide wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

Now you're just being judgmental. It's an AI, it has a personality, maybe even dare I say it a soul. The message Bioware is trying to give is that love is love, who care's where you find it? Be it your toaster (EDI), the gym (Vega), or New Jersey (Allers).

...

Ok no its still pretty weird.

Add to that the fact that BW is telling us that all AI will inevitably turn against organics and brutally murder us...
So yeah that relationship is gonna end well...

[Karrie788]

nicocap24 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

Now you're just being judgmental. It's an AI, it has a personality, maybe even dare I say it a soul. The message Bioware is trying to give is that love is love, who care's where you find it? Be it your toaster (EDI), the gym (Vega), or New Jersey (Allers).

...

Ok no its still pretty weird.

lol. I wonder how they'll manage to... you know. I mean does EDI have a... you know?

Well er... she's an infiltrator, her body is supposed to be shaped like a human body to avoid detection from enemies, sooo... I have no idea. I... don't think I really want to ponder on this.

[mass_zotz]

blooregard wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

blooregard wrote...

if these are really the endings I don't care if they don't give me a good ending, I don't care if they pull "it was all a story" I don't even care if they don't fix the unavoidable plot holes. I want them to explain in depth why joker who said at the end of ME2 if you fail horribly "I won't lose you again" and even looks at impossible odds in the face and says " if this is a one way trip we're off to a good start" somebody like that doesn't run away. Hell he got up out of his fancy leather chair for the 5th time in the entire series to get as many collector kills as possible at this point turning him into a spinless panzy that gets the whole crew (who did nothing to stop him) stranded on a remote planet seems foolish in the lighest way I can put it

My friend, space magic is a 2 way street. It can hurt as much as it can help.

explain to me the difference between normal magic and space magic. Is there an actual difference? or does space magic just sound funnier

Sounds way funnier

Modifié par mass_zotz, 05 mars 2012 - 08:58 .

[gearseffect]

No more great in depth conversations with people between missions, no more deep conversations with old pals, I think this has sort of gotten pushed into the thing called "Your Choices don't matter any more"

It should be called no more deep conversations, Story Mode is RPG Mode with easy as pie combat, RPG Mode is Action Mode with the 2 dialogue options and a sh!tton of Auto-dialogue options. And Action Mode is were you sit back and watch all the conversations and dialogue scenes play out as cut scenes.

But remember that Action Mode will not affect the RPG Mode in any way what so ever.

I had said this before I wonder how much dialogue was cut to get Action Mode to work. I'm sad now, this game is not even the same ME as ME1 and ME2. We don't get some great deep heavy conversations that can take up to 5 minutes to play out .

That's why the launch trailer claims that now is the best time to jump aboard the ME series at the end because if you've been playing it and a fan of it before well You gonna be mighty upset now right? this will no longer be the same game.

I will not buy any DLC because it won't fix the stupid autodialogue and lack of my involvement in conversations.
Wanna talk to Anderson why he's not the Human Council Member anymore cool it's all done with little to know input from the play as to how the conversation plays out

Wanna talk to Ash about Horizon cool it plays out with little to no involvement and input from you

The game is gonna unfold with little to no player involvement in driving the story and conversations

[TheRevanchist]

GOD DAMNIT! I JUST CANT ****ING BELIEVE IT ENDS THIS WAY!!! This is the most BULL****!, contrived!, meaningless sack of **** I have EVERheard of the the history of story-telling!

There is just SO MUCH WRONG with -everything- involved with this ending!

[blooregard]

Karrie788 wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

nicocap24 wrote...

I just find it so screwed up that Joker is in love with an AI

Now you're just being judgmental. It's an AI, it has a personality, maybe even dare I say it a soul. The message Bioware is trying to give is that love is love, who care's where you find it? Be it your toaster (EDI), the gym (Vega), or New Jersey (Allers).

...

Ok no its still pretty weird.

lol. I wonder how they'll manage to... you know. I mean does EDI have a... you know?

Well er... she's an infiltrator, her body is supposed to be shaped like a human body to avoid detection from enemies, sooo... I have no idea. I... don't think I really want to ponder on this.

just so I know joker is stuck with his brittle bone hand most sci-fis with "infiltrator" like robots rarely give them the whole 9 yards and just try for a very human apperarence so they can...you know infiltrate the super spy bots are probably the ones with the whole 9 yards + internal razors

[Johnnycide]

Intomydimension wrote...

first of all thanks for correcting me.
I ask you was, but it seems that you have removed in the correction.
I understand perfectly, but remains to be seen whether these choices affect the game through what I think.
are supposedly 7 finals, 3 of them major supposedly already know that change would fail to see in others.
I see a lot of complaints when necessary to see if those decisions that affect many want to finish, and have been used through the game, whether recruiting, convenser, or destroy something or whatever.
someone give me an idea of what people want to go, based on decisions made in Mass Effect 1 and 2, apart from a separate final decisions, which is the same as deus ex HR.
and the final missing is the knowledge that new decisions are taken throughout the game.
So if it seems a waste is the reason why the reapers kill advanced organic life every 50,000 years, makes no sense and was what most bothered me to, maybe you have something on purpose to explain past.
the rest of the grandfather telling the story to the child, although it is a little weird or just absolutely absurd to me, it all really happened
PD: i used google traductor 

You're welcome.

I believe you are correct that ME3 choices will have an impact in ME3, however that wasn't what we were promised while they were developing the game. We were led to believe that the choices we made in ME1 and ME2 would affect our ending in ME3, which isn't the case. Alot of these complaints are based on the leaked scripts and videos, so to that end there is justification for these complaints. People really want a larger variety of endings, there are people who are fine with the endings as they stand, there are people want a happier ending (which would be more consistent with the theme of the game), and there are people who want endings which actually reflect their Shepard. Yes, the origins and motives of the Reapers are a mystery to most if not all of us perhaps even the Bioware writing staff included. I have no idea regarding the relevance of the grandfather and the child.

[R0X13]

Kyzo wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

blooregard wrote...

Kyzo wrote...

gearseffect wrote...

mass_zotz wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

I was trying to look for the script or something because I just heard even more bad news.

I really hope this isn't true but Normandy get's stranded because Joker runs away with the ship or something. I know that sounds absolutely moronic but between everything else that's happened...

(and yes it tore my little shoker heart out *sniffle)

Wow you are late to the party but yea thats true for all endings.

Yep are good ol' trusty Polit Helsmen sudden losses his nerve and makes a run for the nearest Mass Relay to leave earth and Shepard Behind.
That's the Joker I love, with his huge brass Balls that never left Shepard to die when we faced certain death, and suddenly at the end of it all he losses his GIANT SET OF BASS and RUNS AWAY!

So that's the reason behind the Normandy crashing on an uncharted planet? The same Joker who wouldn't leave the Normandy SR1 when it was attacked by Collectors at the beginning of ME2, even when it was near destoryed?
It doesn't seem like him... That's probably why these endings smell so fishy to me. The whole Shepard dying at the end I don't mind, was actually expecting something like that. But this, just feels out of place and very OOC for Joker. I mean even if he did run away, wouldn't someone on the ship try and stop him like EDI?

he may not be running away as much as he's trying to get to the citadel? I mean sheard is on the citadel when the ending takes place right?

The citadel was apparently parked at Earth... I know space magic.

Even then. How would have Shepard got onto the Citadel without informing the Normady or even using the Normady to get to the Cidadel?

Maybe Shepard takes the Normandy to the Citadel but then orders him to leave...that might make some sense...I mean everything's falling apart....tells him to try to get back to earth...but doesn't outrun the blast...

At least he was doing it to save the rest of the crew and while I hope Joker at least has some trouble with the order after what happened last time disobeying a direct order I can least how thats feasible...