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[Emo Solus]

GARRUS ='[ NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Things only get worse for Garrus lovers =[ ANYTHING BUT THIS!

[Cobra's_back]

Can you make Anderson the new Guardian? He'll control the Reapers and Shepard lives? Is this a possible ending? How do I do this?

[TUHD]

Baronesa wrote...

Putting this here as well.

This is what I was expecting, and speaking only for myself.

Perhaps, people should start talking about what they were expecting.

I wanted or was expecting at least 1 ending (the perfect and damn hard to get) where:
Galaxy wide:
All fleets are destroyed below 1/3 to 1/2 of their original size.
Home planets and colonies on various stages of destruction
Citadel and Mass Relays still in place (keeping galactic civilization still going)
- How many are saved or how severe the destruction is, depending on the way you played (collect the points!)

Squad/Normandy/Past Crew
I was expecting deaths, no matter what. We got Wrex and Mordin... and I would have expected a few more Virmire scenarios.
Treat this as the suicide mission, your actions greatly increase the chances of most of them surviving.
LI and Shepard get to be together in the end

Uncertainty: With the weakened stage of the galaxy, I could see someone raising the alarms that now the Terminus system could try something against Citadel Space. (This would also open the door for interesting post-war DLC that I would love to see...)

Rainbows and ponies right? -.- The only "Happy" thing is that in the midst of all the destruction, you were able to pull your team through and keep them alive (if some SHOULD be injured, mind you) and you end up with LI.

Now... that was what I was expecting for the most perfect possible ending, the one you should work hard to get.

Other endings? In all the others I was expecting for Shepard/most of the crew to die... simply you didn't prepared enough, you made sacrifices... maybe even some planets fully wiped out? yes. I could see the current endings on this category, a Pyrrhic victory. You destroy/control/merge and stop the current threat (and in destroy(merge the future, at least FROM the Reapers) but at the cost of Galactic Civilization.

And finally... even if you did all the critical plot missions but you didn't cared to raise your war assets, I was expecting for an ending with the Reapers wiping out EVERYTHING. Simply put, you were not prepared and the Galaxy payed the price. In fact I would really love to see an ending like this as one of the possible ones.


So, basically: Best Possible ending (hard to get), Worst possible Ending (Reapers win). Middle of the road endings (current ones fit here perfectly)

+++
Currently as-is, it seems to be that getting a positive ending is not possible... while the team promised there would be some sort of positive ending too. Now it's just variations on the same, with no post-ending notes about how the rest of the galaxy fared.

[wicked_being]

ghostbusters101 wrote...

Can you make Anderson the new Guardian? He'll control the Reapers and Shepard lives? Is this a possible ending? How do I do this?

Nope. Would've been better don't you think?

I imagine a lot of people will be asking this (or at least questions like this) when the game's released.

[Pedro Costa]

Super.Sid wrote...

From their point of view this ending where all characters are killed removed all complexity of save variables and hence it gives them a chance to start fresh.

The problem is, if people do not like what they're being offered there's little reason why they'd even want to continue supporting this IP, ultimately making any "pre-planning for future games" futile.
This was supposed to be the end for Shepard's story, not "let's set up a cash cow".

As it currently stands, I have no further interest in any sort of Mass Effect-related product, except, perhaps, a DLC expanding the avaiable endings, since, for me, the current ones are too restrictive (as many have said, it basically boils down to "which colour do you like best?" and "do you want your Shepard dead, Skynet'd or Forever Alone?"), too contrived (gg SR-2) and too devoid of impact from the previous games (anything related to the outcome of the Reaper Threat happens in this one game); as such, my emotional attachment to this IP and any possible future products on it based has become marginal, at best.

As countlessly present in this post, I'm aware my opinion is my own and is worth what it's worth, I do not intend to deny anyone enjoying these endings their right to them nor am I demanding BioWare anything; I'd just like to have more options on how I could end this trilogy that'd actually rekindle my enthusiasm for what was my favorite IP of this decade.

[Capeo]

crimzontearz wrote...

Ashton.Shepard wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Ashton.Shepard wrote...

I am, just confused. It really does seem like a large joke on everyone. I guess it isn't though. It's like one of those endings someone would write to mess with everyone but there seems to be so much evidence. I only have a single choice. Tomorrow I'll get the game, play to the best of my abilities, and hope to send out my Shepard (who I originally wanted to survive) in a most glorious way, in a way that makes me feel like he's a true hero. I don't see much point of him surviving now. Unless I find some greater ending I'm done will these games I guess. It's a shame this was my favorite series.

remember the normandy bug man......who is your LI?

Liara... and I don't know any details, but i've heard that's even worse than most lol.

there is a bug that teleports Liara on the normandy for the crash scene even tho she is on earth (and sometimes died on earth) during the last mission

without that bug and enough EMS you survive, she survives and you are both on earth (rest of the nromandy is still stranded)

but, it's a bit better

The only way to survive is to take the Destroy ending though and kill EDI and all Geth, correct?

[Grand Wazoo]

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The only way to survive is to take the Destroy ending though and kill EDI and all Geth, correct?

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Yes

Modifié par Grand Wazoo, 05 mars 2012 - 02:29 .

[Aligalipe]

What is EMS?

[Rinji the Bearded]

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

[Super.Sid]

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

From their point of view this ending where all characters are killed removed all complexity of save variables and hence it gives them a chance to start fresh.

The problem is, if people do not like what they're being offered there's little reason why they'd even want to continue supporting this IP, ultimately making any "pre-planning for future games" futile.
This was supposed to be the end for Shepard's story, not "let's set up a cash cow".

As it currently stands, I have no further interest in any sort of Mass Effect-related product, except, perhaps, a DLC expanding the avaiable endings, since, for me, the current ones are too restrictive (as many have said, it basically boils down to "which colour do you like best?" and "do you want your Shepard dead, Skynet'd or Forever Alone?"), too contrived (gg SR-2) and too devoid of impact from the previous games (anything related to the outcome of the Reaper Threat happens in this one game); as such, my emotional attachment to this IP and any possible future products on it based has become marginal, at best.

As countlessly present in this post, I'm aware my opinion is my own and is worth what it's worth, I do not intend to deny anyone enjoying these endings their right to them nor am I demanding BioWare anything; I'd just like to have more options on how I could end this trilogy that'd actually rekindle my enthusiasm for what was my favorite IP of this decade.

These guys are good at marketing their productions so I'm sure the next product will sell as well due to the hype they can create.Anyways if one section of the community leaves new ones will join.Customers keep coming and going.
Don't you like the awesome trailers and explosions ?

[Elegana]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

It's either a bug, design overview, or horrible writing.

[crimzontearz]

Elegana wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

It's either a bug, design overview, or horrible writing.

has to be one of the former 2 since she gets up there even if she is blasted....

same as the flashbacks

[Pedro Costa]

Baronesa wrote...

Putting this here as well.

This is what I was expecting, and speaking only for myself.

Perhaps, people should start talking about what they were expecting.

I wanted or was expecting at least 1 ending (the perfect and damn hard to get) where:
Galaxy wide:
All fleets are destroyed below 1/3 to 1/2 of their original size.
Home planets and colonies on various stages of destruction
Citadel and Mass Relays still in place (keeping galactic civilization still going)
- How many are saved or how severe the destruction is, depending on the way you played (collect the points!)

Squad/Normandy/Past Crew
I was expecting deaths, no matter what. We got Wrex and Mordin... and I would have expected a few more Virmire scenarios.
Treat this as the suicide mission, your actions greatly increase the chances of most of them surviving.
LI and Shepard get to be together in the end

Uncertainty: With the weakened stage of the galaxy, I could see someone raising the alarms that now the Terminus system could try something against Citadel Space. (This would also open the door for interesting post-war DLC that I would love to see...)

Rainbows and ponies right? -.- The only "Happy" thing is that in the midst of all the destruction, you were able to pull your team through and keep them alive (if some SHOULD be injured, mind you) and you end up with LI.

Now... that was what I was expecting for the most perfect possible ending, the one you should work hard to get.

Other endings? In all the others I was expecting for Shepard/most of the crew to die... simply you didn't prepared enough, you made sacrifices... maybe even some planets fully wiped out? yes. I could see the current endings on this category, a Pyrrhic victory. You destroy/control/merge and stop the current threat (and in destroy(merge the future, at least FROM the Reapers) but at the cost of Galactic Civilization.

And finally... even if you did all the critical plot missions but you didn't cared to raise your war assets, I was expecting for an ending with the Reapers wiping out EVERYTHING. Simply put, you were not prepared and the Galaxy payed the price. In fact I would really love to see an ending like this as one of the possible ones.


So, basically: Best Possible ending (hard to get), Worst possible Ending (Reapers win). Middle of the road endings (current ones fit here perfectly)

Oh, this seems rather in-line with what I was expecting, actually. I agree.

Tougher, more impactful choices, along with severe effort on the part of the player to "get things right/maximum possible score" which ultimately, no matter how bleak things looked, with billions killed, worlds crippled, armadas weakened and friends sacrificed, culminated in the fabric of the current Galactic Society remaining, along with the personal satisfaction of (most) of your team and your own character being able to live on and help rebuild the crippled Galaxy.

[crimzontearz]

Aligalipe wrote...

What is EMS?

Effective military strength

[Rinji the Bearded]

Elegana wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

It's either a bug, design overview, or horrible writing.

Well, I just wanted to make sure people knew whether it was a bug or not, since I'm not sure if anyone knows the exact circumstances around it.   Maybe they were always supposed to return to the Normandy?  But, if someone is saying that Liara (for example) will return to the Normandy even after dying on Earth... THAT sounds like a bug, lol.

I also guess that this bug only applies to squadmate LIs who are with Shepard on Earth?  Only the VS, Liara, Garrus and Tali?

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 05 mars 2012 - 02:38 .

[Capeo]

crimzontearz wrote...

Elegana wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

It's either a bug, design overview, or horrible writing.

has to be one of the former 2 since she gets up there even if she is blasted....

same as the flashbacks

Yeah, it seems like there a few flagging issues with the end.  I'm sure the day 1 patch is supposed to fix that stuff.  Don't ask me how that could get on the disc though.  How can you miss bugs like that at this point in development?

Now, I haven't been around much the last couple days so clarify if you would.  If this is a bug and I take Liara with me on the final mission then choose the Destroy option then conceivably she'd be on Earth with me at the end?

[Rinji the Bearded]

Capeo wrote...

Yeah, it seems like there a few flagging issues with the end.  I'm sure the day 1 patch is supposed to fix that stuff.  Don't ask me how that could get on the disc though.  How can you miss bugs like that at this point in development?

Now, I haven't been around much the last couple days so clarify if you would.  If this is a bug and I take Liara with me on the final mission then choose the Destroy option then conceivably she'd be on Earth with me at the end?

If what people here are saying is true, then yes, it is a bug.  And I guess it applies to all squadmate LIs (not Cortez and Traynor).

[Cobra's_back]

The reviewers are giving them excellent reviews, and there is the sloppy ending where your 2 squad mates that are with you on Earth magically get teleported to the Normandy. This is laughable. They tried so hard to create a tragedy that they messed it up.

[crimzontearz]

Capeo wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Elegana wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

It's either a bug, design overview, or horrible writing.

has to be one of the former 2 since she gets up there even if she is blasted....

same as the flashbacks

Yeah, it seems like there a few flagging issues with the end.  I'm sure the day 1 patch is supposed to fix that stuff.  Don't ask me how that could get on the disc though.  How can you miss bugs like that at this point in development?

Now, I haven't been around much the last couple days so clarify if you would.  If this is a bug and I take Liara with me on the final mission then choose the Destroy option then conceivably she'd be on Earth with me at the end?

since there is no scene where the normandy picks her up AND apparently she appears on the normandy even if she is blown up in the last mission (which CAN happen) I would say it is a bug

and if you took her with you on earth for the last mission AND she survives it follows logic she should still be there

[Rinji the Bearded]

Does anyone know what the Normandy is doing while Shepard is on Earth? That is, what is it doing before Shepard makes the big decision?

[GBGriffin]

Elegana wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

It's either a bug, design overview, or horrible writing.

Those are my theories as well. At this stage, I'm about 60/40 it's a bug, but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if one team didn't talk to the other and it happens regardless (design oversight).

I also believe I read Shepard tells the squadmates on Earth to leave, which would indicate it isn't entirely a bug, but there is certainly something wrong with the whole scenario.

[GBGriffin]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Does anyone know what the Normandy is doing while Shepard is on Earth? That is, what is it doing before Shepard makes the big decision?

Fleeing to the Charon relay! 

[Rob_K1]

crimzontearz wrote...

Grand Wazoo wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Ashton.Shepard wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Ashton.Shepard wrote...

I am, just confused. It really does seem like a large joke on everyone. I guess it isn't though. It's like one of those endings someone would write to mess with everyone but there seems to be so much evidence. I only have a single choice. Tomorrow I'll get the game, play to the best of my abilities, and hope to send out my Shepard (who I originally wanted to survive) in a most glorious way, in a way that makes me feel like he's a true hero. I don't see much point of him surviving now. Unless I find some greater ending I'm done will these games I guess. It's a shame this was my favorite series.

remember the normandy bug man......who is your LI?

Liara... and I don't know any details, but i've heard that's even worse than most lol.

there is a bug that teleports Liara on the normandy for the crash scene even tho she is on earth (and sometimes died on earth) during the last mission

without that bug and enough EMS you survive, she survives and you are both on earth (rest of the nromandy is still stranded)

but, it's a bit better

That is the case with all squadmates you take with you in the end.. if it turns out to be a bug. We still haven't seen a high EMS video, we will know soon enough though. At this point, it is better just not to expect anything.

I know that...regardless it has to be a bug since...you know..she gets teleported there even if she is blown up.......

Right... it is definitely confirmed she gets teleported even if she's dead? Then it's 'settled' about not being able to end up with your LI at the very least on Earth, in my view.

[Rinji the Bearded]

GBGriffin wrote...

Those are my theories as well. At this stage, I'm about 60/40 it's a bug, but honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if one team didn't talk to the other and it happens regardless (design oversight).

I also believe I read Shepard tells the squadmates on Earth to leave, which would indicate it isn't entirely a bug, but there is certainly something wrong with the whole scenario.

I read as part of the final Kaidan dialogue with Shepard that he goes off "to find the rest of his squad" or something like that, which would refer to the biotics division.  But apparently he gets teleported to the Normandy instead!

[Capeo]

crimzontearz wrote...

Capeo wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Elegana wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

Is the whole "teleporting to the Normandy" thing really a bug? Is the Normandy not on the Earth after Shepard and his squad lands?

It's either a bug, design overview, or horrible writing.

has to be one of the former 2 since she gets up there even if she is blasted....

same as the flashbacks

Yeah, it seems like there a few flagging issues with the end.  I'm sure the day 1 patch is supposed to fix that stuff.  Don't ask me how that could get on the disc though.  How can you miss bugs like that at this point in development?

Now, I haven't been around much the last couple days so clarify if you would.  If this is a bug and I take Liara with me on the final mission then choose the Destroy option then conceivably she'd be on Earth with me at the end?

since there is no scene where the normandy picks her up AND apparently she appears on the normandy even if she is blown up in the last mission (which CAN happen) I would say it is a bug

and if you took her with you on earth for the last mission AND she survives it follows logic she should still be there

Which, in the end doesn't matter, right?  Because there is no epilogue concerning Shep even if he/she lives as far as I understand it.