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EJ107 wrote...

_Martyr_ wrote...

social.bioware.com/poll.php


A word of warning: Bioware has deleted all polls concerning the ending so far. Don't ask why, because I have no clue. 


Biotic barrier on

#13127
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A quote from another thread

Aesieru wrote...

I've always been the odd one out and tried to defend BioWare's actions regardless of how much sense or not it made to me or others, in fact, I'd look into their logic just to see if it did make sense, that's why I contributed so much on the Technological Singularity and even in ME' 1 and 2's errors and yes, even DA and before that...

I've been a loyal BioWare fan and they are the people who made KotOR the first RPG I played (thinking I bought a multiplayer hack and slash Star Wars game when I was that young) that surprised me and kept me into the genre.

I play all the games out these days, but my place is RPG's with story, and I loved the Sci-Fi environment... I wondered what ME3 would hold and after seeing the voice actor reveal trailer about how great this story game was I was even more excited.

Anyway, after new information for me has come to light...

These are the things I have now learned about this game:

Automatic dialog choices account for at least half of the game.
Paragon / Renegade is no longer a possibility but an absolute necessity in regards to choice.
Investigation and deeper character dialog is no longer present.
Character - Character interactions are reduced.
Atmospheric construction of locations is reduced.
Environmental graphic scenes are lower.
Combat-based gameplay is the new priority.
Skill-trees are set up to be similar to other combat-based games, not an RPG.
Endings are dismissive and while debatably logical, not satisfying.
Playthrough time of game is an est. 28 hours full, no longer 40.
Numerous issues from Dragon Age 2 (The FIRST BioWare game I ever hated) are transferred over.
Entire graphical redo's which destroy immersion of previous games in regards to character appearances and voices.

BioWare you are the only company that if they released something I bought it without thinking, not because I was a mindless drone, but because I knew you wouldn't let me down, and if you did, there'd be a ton of saving graces.

Depending on how I receive this game, I may never log in on this community again, and I feel that many others will follow the same path.

I hope you prove us wrong, but I can't defend you anymore.



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IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.

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I just hope they dont pull a Bobby Ewing / shower / it was all a dream

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Well, I guess the problems at launch are finally getting too big for the game media to keep ignoring it. http://venturebeat.c...-leaked-online/

It doesn't cover the endings, but does cover the fact the game was leaked... days ago.

Modifié par BaronIveagh, 05 mars 2012 - 03:33 .


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Risselda wrote...

IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.


Take a look at the Thane character/romance thread right here on BSN. I feel bad for them, it's going to be one major letdown followed by a galactic letdown. :?

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So is Bioware avoiding this like cancer or have they given reasoning behind the endings?

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R0X13 wrote...

Johnnycide wrote...

R0X13 wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

EDI sexbot reveal


SO MUCH HATE

I am a broken woman...

I wanted to join the whole "hey just cause it's sad doesn't means it's bad" crowd

But after seeing  THIS

It made me realize how much I wanted closure, how enthralled I really had become with this game. That honestly made me cry and I hate myself for it. Infact i think I might post that link in the Joker Romance section...I don't care if it's supposed to be spoiler-free I want somone to join in my PAIN.

Also I hate you Johnnycide for posting that video as a reponse to me. I will hate you for all time...

I'm sorry? But you were bound to see it one way or another... it's not like I made you click it... I mean... Please don't hate me


I'm going to rip your balls off and sell them to a krogan!

Sigh I'm just so...agnst...that is pathetic...I need a hug...







Lol the devs deffo have quads... They made an epic story turn to a major dribble fail... Aww, I think we all need hugs Image IPB

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farlander28 wrote...

Risselda wrote...

IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.


Take a look at the Thane character/romance thread right here on BSN. I feel bad for them, it's going to be one major letdown followed by a galactic letdown. :?


Oh there's gonna be a lot of sadness.  Thane, Jacob... I also have seen a few people quite eager to romance Vega, who isn't a romance option...

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Niddy' wrote...

So is Bioware avoiding this like cancer or have they given reasoning behind the endings?


I'm pretty sure their stance is "We won't talk about it until the game is officially released."

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farlander28 wrote...

Risselda wrote...

IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.


Take a look at the Thane character/romance thread right here on BSN. I feel bad for them, it's going to be one major letdown followed by a galactic letdown. :?


If there were 3 chars I was expecting to die one way or anotehr were Thane, Mordin and Samara. one is sick and on his last days, the other 2 are VERY old for their species and also about to die. Could also add Zaeed to the mix since he is really an old man still playing merc.

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curelightwounds wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I can't believe that I'm going to most likely stoop to fanfiction in order to get a satisfying ending. How much tentacle alien porn I have to swim through in order to find the proper ending that makes sense to me.

No such thing as too much tentacle alien porn.

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farlander28 wrote...

Risselda wrote...

IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.


Take a look at the Thane character/romance thread right here on BSN. I feel bad for them, it's going to be one major letdown followed by a galactic letdown. :?

I sometimes lurk in the Romance subforum just to balance all this negativity in here. I feel really bad for them. At least the Miri and Talimancers have started to accept it. The Ashley thread though...

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Risselda

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wicked_being wrote...

farlander28 wrote...

Risselda wrote...

IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.


Take a look at the Thane character/romance thread right here on BSN. I feel bad for them, it's going to be one major letdown followed by a galactic letdown. :?

I sometimes lurk in the Romance subforum just to balance all this negativity in here. I feel really bad for them. At least the Miri and Talimancers have started to accept it. The Ashley thread though...


Man...I have seen so many hopeful, ignorant people. They are soooo excited for the ending. Oh man...gonna have to check out the ashley thread.

I thought the talimancers had it the hardest :(

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Niddy' wrote...

So is Bioware avoiding this like cancer or have they given reasoning behind the endings?


The reasoning is clear to me at least.

They created a story ending that was emotionally unsatisfying to a large (more than 50% at a guess) of their customer base. 

Hollywood puts happy endings in movies for a reason. At the end of the day while a dark ending can be refreshing the vast majority of people can't/won't understand it. 

So in order to generate maximum profits they make an ending that appeals to the LCD of its target demographic.

BIoware believes its ME customers are smarter than that and expects them to grasp the implications of themes presented at the end of the game's narrative. 

This view is naive and they will get a black eye for it.

Why do you think there as a Forum Policy update just before the game released? Those that understand what customer service is like know how the mass public is going to react.

Modifié par Ghurshog, 05 mars 2012 - 03:48 .


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Risselda wrote...

IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.


Perfect is subjective, for them maybe it means Shepards "heroic" death, for you it's something different, as for myself, well let's just say i have enough drama IRL that i don't need it in my games.

What i want to say is don't be surprised if majority of players indeed like the endings. :?

EDIT:
The **** happens with Tali??  :blink:

Modifié par cotheer, 05 mars 2012 - 03:47 .


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Some men just want to watch the world burn.

#13143
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cotheer wrote...

Risselda wrote...

IF the ending is what we think it is...how do you think spoiler free people will react?

Was just on deviant art and have been seeing "omg must get perfect ending" journals and whatnot from fangirls.

Oh god bioware...if you know whats good for you, dont ****** off the fangirls.


Perfect is subjective, for them maybe it means Shepards "heroic" death, for you it's something different, as for myself, well let's just say i have enough drama IRL that i don't need it in my games.

What i want to say is don't be surprised if majority of players indeed like the endings. :?

EDIT:
The **** happens with Tali??  :blink:


Yes..perfect is subjective. I myself have become ok with the endings. But the people who I am referring to are the people that, and I really dont want to stereotype, but want the 'fangirl ending.'

Like...these people are so excited to carry out post-game (like in me2) with their LI

And they are making it a huge point to do everything in the game to achieve this.


And Tali is kinda...:( either she commits suicide or dies of starvation.

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Chrillze wrote...

Some men just want to watch the world burn.


Cause baby your a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, oh
As you shoot across the sky

Modifié par Super.Sid, 05 mars 2012 - 03:52 .


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Super.Sid wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Some men just want to watch the world burn.


Cause baby your a firework
Come on, show 'em what you're worth
Make 'em go, oh
As you shoot across the sky



I don't want to set the world on fire
I just want to start
A flame in your heart
In my heart I have but one desire
And that one is you
No other will do

I've lost all ambition for worldly acclaim
I just want to be the one you love
And with your admission that you feel the same
I'll have reached the goal I'm dreaming of

Believe me!
I don't want to set the world on fire
I just want to start
A flame in your heart

<3

#13146
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Ooh seems like some forums are already locked off (can't post) until we register ME3. And so it begins...

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Risselda wrote...
Yes..perfect is subjective. I myself have become ok with the endings. But the people who I am referring to are the people that, and I really dont want to stereotype, but want the 'fangirl ending.'

Like...these people are so excited to carry out post-game (like in me2) with their LI

And they are making it a huge point to do everything in the game to achieve this.


And Tali is kinda...:( either she commits suicide or dies of starvation.


Just...wow <_<
Sometimes i wish games were like before, when you played them for fun and not their story.

#13148
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wicked_being wrote...

Ooh seems like some forums are already locked off (can't post) until we register ME3. And so it begins...


So what is the fate of this long thread ? Dies like ME3 ending ? No choices ?

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

He could probably end the entire war by pointing his screwdriver at that kid...


And multiplayer would get daleks and cybermen, which would be awesome.


Two words:

Weeping. Angels.

That would send REAPERS running the other way.


Two words:  Sledge.  Hammer.

Seriously, if they're just statues when you look at them, then shoot/smash/bomb the statues and shatter them. 

#13150
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This thread is highly amusing to read. The lesson?

Never, ever, make a sequel to anything. Eventually, the franchise will start to decay and turn into a zombie - or rather, this is what the fans will believe and say.

Anyway, I haven't seen any of the endings, but from what I've read about the merge one, it seems perfect for me.

By the way, choose 1-3-2 when talking to Tamoko in the Undercity and she'll leave in peace.