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XenoAlbedo

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XenoAlbedo wrote...

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When I found out about the ending it ruined the entire series for me. I no longer have a good time in any of the games now. I don't even feel like I'm playing a game, I feel like I'm walking to a funeral. Also, sending synthetics to kill us before we could make our own lethal synthetics? Not only is that stupid, but what happened to sovereign's speech where it clearly showed Reapers hated organics and considered themselves superior. Bioware, you can't fix the story, but please, fix the ending.

I shall constantly quote this until Bioware gets the idea.



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We want better endings, Bioware!

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XenoAlbedo

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Better endings! Better endings! Better endings!

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The endings sucked & made the whole game pointless. End of line.

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mass_zotz

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We really do need better endings. I believed that war assets and certain choice in game decide how well the galaxy will be off, Instead it comes down to how well earth will be off. and then epilogue did does not give any type of closure.

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We all just need to put the same signature asking for more endings, and maybe they'll actually listen to us. This is Shepard's last game and yet they leave us wanting more.

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J5550123 wrote...

We all just need to put the same signature asking for more endings, and maybe they'll actually listen to us. This is Shepard's last game and yet they leave us wanting more.

Done. But I'm afraid it will be useless.

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Yeah I'm up for a better ending as well!
Just should've told a linear story if you don't want my choices to have any impact!

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XenoAlbedo wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

When I found out about the ending it ruined the entire series for me. I no longer have a good time in any of the games now. I don't even feel like I'm playing a game, I feel like I'm walking to a funeral. Also, sending synthetics to kill us before we could make our own lethal synthetics? Not only is that stupid, but what happened to sovereign's speech where it clearly showed Reapers hated organics and considered themselves superior. Bioware, you can't fix the story, but please, fix the ending.

I shall constantly quote this until Bioware gets the idea.


You pretty much summed up how I feel, I wasn't able to find the proper phrase until I read what you posted. It DOES feel like you are walking to a funeral.

I can't bring myself to import anymore saves at this point.  The experience will be exactly the same no matter what I do.   My Shepard can run around helping people for hours, but all his efforts will be rendered moot once the Guardian and the Tech-Singularity are inserted into this story arc. 

It's an extraordinary cheat.

It's not just that the Guardian and the Tech-Sing are these last minute elements that are thrown into the game that bothers me. What truly disturbs me is that these endings that some gamers are praising as brilliant are NOT UNIQUE CONCEPTS.  Bioware seems to borrow from EVERYONE to achieve these endings.  If you're listening and paying attention you can easily see Deus Ex, you can also see the conversation between Neo and the Architect,  and if you're a scifi reader and familiar with the material, you see the events of Revelation Space  unfolding in a nearly identical plot that screams plagurism.

I can deal with a dark ending, I can deal with Shepard's fate and the loss of his companions.  But these endings ask a little too much from us.  They ask they we ignore our previous experiences in ME1&2, and accept magic tech as a solution.  They ask the we accept that Mass Effect was not about the struggles of humanity and aliens, but an unending paradox that machines that were supposed to be "beyond our comprehension"  seem to have been trapped in for millions of years. 

I wanted Shepard to say to the Reapers, "You're all slaves! All of you are damned but you don't know it.  Let me free you from this cycle"   But Shepard says nothing as he communicates with a thing that has administered over the deaths of countless civilizations.  He's standing in front the greatest murderer that has ever existed.............and he has nothing to say to counter this monster's choices?

THIS is a great ending?   Where the protagonist just plays along?

There's nothing special about the Reapers anymore, they're no different than any other machine race that enaged in paracide/genocide throughout numerous fictions.  That amazing moment when you first meet Soverieign/Nazara and realized that this A.I was driven by more than just a need to wipe out organics.  He cast himself in the role of Alpha and Omega.......the beginning and the end.     Now we find out that he's just following a pre-programmed cycle.     That really stinks, and I feel robbed of something that could have been so extraordinary if the ending had been trusted to more creative minds.

But Bioware stole it's plays from the universal scifi playbook and THEN took a wrecking ball to it's entire universe. 

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We played through 3 games, fought all those battles, to have 3 crap endings like that? In the week just before release of ME3, I was getting a bad feeling about it, now I know why. Very disappointed, but oh well, there will be other games to play from other companies that don't have a demented sense of humor.

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Cosmochyck wrote...

Yeah I'm up for a better ending as well!
Just should've told a linear story if you don't want my choices to have any impact!



This says it all, why bother with the decisions at all............  what a waste

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We should grab our pitchforks and torches; just flood Casy Hudson twitter page with complaints about these stupid endings.

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MacAttack wrote...

We should grab our pitchforks and torches; just flood Casy Hudson twitter page with complaints about these stupid endings.

He would ignore you, as Mike Gamble it did with similar questions.

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J5550123

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Prince_Valiant wrote...

MacAttack wrote...

We should grab our pitchforks and torches; just flood Casy Hudson twitter page with complaints about these stupid endings.

He would ignore you, as Mike Gamble it did with similar questions.


They'll have to acknowledge us eventually.

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I have question. Is there any different if you play like paragon or renegade. 'Cos I play like renegade even if I let councilors live and destroyed Collector base.

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They don't have to acknowledge harassment and vitriol. Flooding a twitter page crosses that line. Even if you don't intend to personally, you're just inviting that disaster.

So pitchforks down. Be constructive.

Modifié par Taleroth, 07 mars 2012 - 06:21 .


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Taleroth wrote...

They don't have to acknowledge harassment and vitriol. Flooding a twitter page crosses that line. Even if you don't intend to personally, you're just inviting that disaster.

So pitchforks down. Be constructive.


I don't mean flooding a twitter page. I meant on the forums. They apparently read the forums and a lot of fans are upset about the ending, so they must have something to say about it.

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J5550123 wrote...

Prince_Valiant wrote...

MacAttack wrote...

We should grab our pitchforks and torches; just flood Casy Hudson twitter page with complaints about these stupid endings.

He would ignore you, as Mike Gamble it did with similar questions.


They'll have to acknowledge us eventually.


Just be polite as you do so! :wizard:

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Okay I just finished my first game and I wanna cry because I'm so confused! WTF? Okay, I've only had six hours sleep in the last two days b/c of ME3 but I can only remember the guardian giving me two choices - to control the reapers or to destroy. Can someone describe the third option - I can't seem to find descriptions of the endings.

I may have to replay the end once I get more sleep. Thanks.

#13570
XenoAlbedo

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Didn't Bioware once say that the forums are one of the major things they use to create the games? Off of what the fans were asking for? We're asking for good ending. We're not asking you to remove the bad endings either, just add good ones. There was no point in galactic readiness or any of the side quests. There should be a good ending where Shepard can live along with his crew and not stranded on some planet for everything we did.

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XenoAlbedo wrote...

We're not asking you to remove the bad endings either,

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I am. I don't care if the endings are happy or unhappy, but the endings that exist are disconnected and thematically inappropriate.

Modifié par Taleroth, 07 mars 2012 - 06:33 .


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Taleroth wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

We're not asking you to remove the bad endings either,

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I am. I don't care if the endings are happy or unhappy, but the endings that exist are disconnected and thematically inappropriate.


100% agree.

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Taleroth wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

We're not asking you to remove the bad endings either,

:(
I am. I don't care if the endings are happy or unhappy, but the endings that exist are disconnected and thematically inappropriate.



Yep, very poor work very dissapointing. I am P#$% ed as a paying customer, wish I waited and did not fork over the $$ for this until I read the forums post release I would have gladly ended ME after ME 2 and the collectors then make up my own endign in my head.

That along with Tali's "picture" really .. .just crap effort on things that matter most IMO (endign and LI relationships),, , jsut frustrating.

Modifié par bpzrn, 07 mars 2012 - 06:55 .


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XenoAlbedo

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You have a good point.

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XenoAlbedo wrote...

When I found out about the ending it ruined the entire series for me. I no longer have a good time in any of the games now. I don't even feel like I'm playing a game, I feel like I'm walking to a funeral. Also, sending synthetics to kill us before we could make our own lethal synthetics? Not only is that stupid, but what happened to sovereign's speech where it clearly showed Reapers hated organics and considered themselves superior. Bioware, you can't fix the story, but please, fix the ending.


At least your galactic readiness level is not based on your mitochlorian count. Image IPB



Cosmochyck wrote...

Yeah I'm up for a better ending as well!
Just should've told a linear story if you don't want my choices to have any impact!



True. Anyone get the feeling you are playing a movie / shooter hybrid instead of an RPG / Shooter ?

Modifié par Ohpus, 07 mars 2012 - 07:05 .