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[Witty_Remark]

At this point I could hardly care less about Shepard living or Shepard's LI living or any of that.

I'm frustrated that they didn't give me closure. They didn't explain anything important (to me). They didn't explain who/what created the reapers, the catalyst, the reasoning that went behind their fear of the singularity (like what was the first organic/synthetic war that sparked this madness?), the fate of the galaxy AFTER all these choices I made, or anything like that.

Some want to say it was left vague for 'head canon' and 'imagination'. That seems misguided at best, dismissive to player/fan interests at worst. This was supposed to be a resolution (tragic or otherwise) but instead I was left with more questions and less answers than I started the first game with.

I think it's fair that a trilogy in a franchise like this should end with a little leeway for things to continue in another series. Some plot hook, some interest, some whatever. I don't think it's fair to use the last game in a trilogy solely as another 'continuation' set up.

I don't feel it was a waste of my time in the Mass Effect Universe, though. I thought it was depressing to be sure and yes it did really, really damper my desires to do any new playthroughs... but whatever. They told a entertaining story, had amazing graphics and level designs- PLUS got more bang for my buck per hour playing these games than I would have paying for movies at the theatre to fill the same amount of time.

And even just sticking with these endings, they could have made it something where an invisible plot flag was ticked at like... 9/10th through the plot based on your major choices, not a choice made for all players in the final 'room'.

For example:

• Character is ruthless about destroying Reapers no matter the cost? Destroy option plays out.
• You try to broker peace between synthetics and organics a lot? Boom, Merge.
• Agree with T.I.M.'s goals, if not his methods? Control!

The character's choices would have mattered a lot more like that, playing out over the course of the story like Bioware probably intended, rather than some three curtains at the end of a gameshow choice at the end.

Replayability would be increased and it would've been easy to program (I think). Just use a point system to tally up player's choices over the three games, like how they did to decide if peace would be possible for quarians/geths in your playthrough.

That would have made it seem less contrived and flowed much more organically. In my opinion, of course.

TL;DR: I don't care that it's sad. Choices are great, but more than a variety of endings now  I just wish they had given us more information.  

(edit: herp derp paragraphs)

Modifié par Witty_Remark, 08 mars 2012 - 07:01 .

[Sarcastic]

Bledz wrote...

Y'know, it takes very little for some people to get up and post about something on the forums.

Generally it's easier to voice opinions about something disappointing rather than something that made you happy. But even in that light, generally speaking, most people will just be upset and not really do anything about it beyond the common "wow, that sucked." reply.

This many people in this little time should show you there's a significant problem. Even the outliers who like to pretend they're okay with the endings, that's a bit presumptuous, because I'm sure plenty of you are happy enough, you at least have to recognize that if this was such an acceptable ending to this trilogy, this thread could not sustain itself.

No, the game was awesome but the endings neither felt good nor seemed to fit correctly. Thats why many of us are upset with the kick in the nuts the ending was. No matter how the ending is defended or in what context it was bad. The failure spans the choices/outcomes/fallout of anything you did.

[J5550123]

All we can do is voice our opinion about the endings, and hope that Bioware listens and gives us downloadable endings or a downloadable epilogue. And I definitely agree that the game was awesome. It's a 10 out of 10 for me; the only problem is the endings.

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[LN19]

So the game was amazing; I absolutely loved it! The ending was horrible...what was the point of me making different characters for different outcomes if they all end the same way? It was a let down, I kind of thought the game was about making decisions that make the game and it's ending unique to each player...so what happened? Because once I stormed through London, the game just let me down.

And yeah, I throw my hand in for some kind of "better ending" DLC.

[noxsachi]

J5550123 wrote...

All we can do is voice our opinion about the endings, and hope that Bioware listens and gives us downloadable endings or a downloadable epilogue. And I definitely agree that the game was awesome. It's a 10 out of 10 for me; the only problem is the endings.

I feel much the same way. The journey to them was amazing. I had my doubts about ME3 going in, but the game in general blew me away. I would rate it 9 of 10, but that is because I hate how Samantha Traynor just felt very tacked on compared to Cortez, who became in my eyes a very mission critical part of your squad. I wish they could have integrated her better....Of course my disdain for the endings trumps all of that, the ending being so bad that to me it ruins any playthroughs or thoughts on the series, much like what Daybreak did for Battlestar Galactica.

[J5550123]

noxsachi wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

All we can do is voice our opinion about the endings, and hope that Bioware listens and gives us downloadable endings or a downloadable epilogue. And I definitely agree that the game was awesome. It's a 10 out of 10 for me; the only problem is the endings.

I feel much the same way. The journey to them was amazing. I had my doubts about ME3 going in, but the game in general blew me away. I would rate it 9 of 10, but that is because I hate how Samantha Traynor just felt very tacked on compared to Cortez, who became in my eyes a very mission critical part of your squad. I wish they could have integrated her better....Of course my disdain for the endings trumps all of that, the ending being so bad that to me it ruins any playthroughs or thoughts on the series, much like what Daybreak did for Battlestar Galactica.

Everyone who is upset seems to feel the same way. Amazing game, crappy endings.

[funfryfrenzy]

J5550123 wrote...

noxsachi wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

All we can do is voice our opinion about the endings, and hope that Bioware listens and gives us downloadable endings or a downloadable epilogue. And I definitely agree that the game was awesome. It's a 10 out of 10 for me; the only problem is the endings.

I feel much the same way. The journey to them was amazing. I had my doubts about ME3 going in, but the game in general blew me away. I would rate it 9 of 10, but that is because I hate how Samantha Traynor just felt very tacked on compared to Cortez, who became in my eyes a very mission critical part of your squad. I wish they could have integrated her better....Of course my disdain for the endings trumps all of that, the ending being so bad that to me it ruins any playthroughs or thoughts on the series, much like what Daybreak did for Battlestar Galactica.

Everyone who is upset seems to feel the same way. Amazing game, crappy endings.

Man i was worked up so much just rockin the reapers.. Then the end smacked me in the face.. Like driving a car straight into a wall at 100.

Gameplay. 10/10 for me loved every minute
Overall story. 8/10 eh auto-dialogue killed some of it but still worth it
Ending part ----0/10 destroyed ME3 for me

[J5550123]

Here's an interview with lead writer Mac Walters that was done before the game came out. It seems like he thought fans would actually enjoy these horrible endings.

http://blogs.mercury...hing-narrative/

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 07:40 .

[Sashimi_taco]

I'm thinking of getting to almost the end and then not finishing it and letting it finish the way I hope it will.

The whole game is ruined for me because I keep thinking of the ending. If i look at the ending, I think I will feel like I might not want to finish my other imports.

[funfryfrenzy]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I'm thinking of getting to almost the end and then not finishing it and letting it finish the way I hope it will.

The whole game is ruined for me because I keep thinking of the ending. If i look at the ending, I think I will feel like I might not want to finish my other imports.

Same thought.. Dont finish it just enjoy ME1 and ME2 and think of an ending you would like instead.. It killed it for me and quite a few other people.(cant speak for them just look up the poll)

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

[Giskler]

The ending is so disappointing because it invalidates every choice you've made in all the games.

What happened to "wildly different endings based on player choices".

I feel betrayed.

[atheelogos]

J5550123 wrote...

All we can do is voice our opinion about the endings, and hope that Bioware listens and gives us downloadable endings or a downloadable epilogue. And I definitely agree that the game was awesome. It's a 10 out of 10 for me; the only problem is the endings.

I enjoyed the endings. I even teared up there towards the end. I just wish they did an epilogue or something so we could see how our choices played out for the greater galaxy.

[noxsachi]

J5550123 wrote...

noxsachi wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

All we can do is voice our opinion about the endings, and hope that Bioware listens and gives us downloadable endings or a downloadable epilogue. And I definitely agree that the game was awesome. It's a 10 out of 10 for me; the only problem is the endings.

I feel much the same way. The journey to them was amazing. I had my doubts about ME3 going in, but the game in general blew me away. I would rate it 9 of 10, but that is because I hate how Samantha Traynor just felt very tacked on compared to Cortez, who became in my eyes a very mission critical part of your squad. I wish they could have integrated her better....Of course my disdain for the endings trumps all of that, the ending being so bad that to me it ruins any playthroughs or thoughts on the series, much like what Daybreak did for Battlestar Galactica.

Everyone who is upset seems to feel the same way. Amazing game, crappy endings.

Heh, although I can't believe I forgot this...but the kid also. I might have to give it an 8.5 just for every stupid sequence with that kid. >.> They are both laughable and annoying to play through. But the kid can also tie into the stupid ending. It is kinda silly in the art book the kid was meant to be the face fo all those Shep had lost...well um, that dead person already exists...you updated their model and had their VA on hand... >.>

Also I hate children. Let their planet die Number One.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Whoa 500 pages. Wow. People are complaining about the endings all over the Internet, on gaming forums, YouTube videos, you name it. Bioware can't ignore us, it would be in their best interest to release happy endings dlc, paid or free. There would be no point to playing me1 or 2 otherwise.

-Polite

[J5550123]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Whoa 500 pages. Wow. People are complaining about the endings all over the Internet, on gaming forums, YouTube videos, you name it. Bioware can't ignore us, it would be in their best interest to release happy endings dlc, paid or free. There would be no point to playing me1 or 2 otherwise.

-Polite

There's nearly 14,000 comments on this thread alone. And yeah, I doubt Bioware can ignore us. I've seen people complain about the ending on almost every Mass Effect 3 site I visit. People complained about the Mass Effect: Deception novel for 400+ pages and in the end Bioware and Del Ray promised to fix the errors in that novel, so I hope that Bioware decides to fix the ending to this game.

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[Shinzarn]

I seriously was on the brink of tears so many times during ME3's gameplay. When Thane died, I nearly lost it. Mordin's death was wrenching. So much emotion and work was in this game and the story that I had never felt more connected or involved. Everything was perfect, from the gameplay and choices to the voice acting and dialogue. All of it went completely to hell with the ending. I would pay money, serious money, to get better endings, regardless of the precedent it sets in other games. This is Mass Effect. This is THE video game series that has defined my life. I just want my decisions and my choices across the series to mean something and define Shepard's galaxy. What else is the point of Mass Effect, if not player choice?

[J5550123]

We have another poll asking if you'd ever purchase another Bioware game.

http://social.biowar...52/polls/29074/

[Jahannam]

J5550123 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Whoa 500 pages. Wow. People are complaining about the endings all over the Internet, on gaming forums, YouTube videos, you name it. Bioware can't ignore us, it would be in their best interest to release happy endings dlc, paid or free. There would be no point to playing me1 or 2 otherwise.

-Polite

There's nearly 14,000 comments on this thread alone. And yeah, I doubt Bioware can ignore us.

So how many games have they sold? More than 14k. Also...take a look at how many people are repeat posters. Ive watched this thread since it started and its safe to say several people have enough post to add up to multiple pages of this thread on their own. I could name off 4 or 5 posters that add up to at least 20 pages. Being loud, post count..means diddly. People cry about everything everywhere..big deal. Bioware can ignore you and it should be apparent they have since the leaked script first came out.

[J5550123]

Jahannam wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Whoa 500 pages. Wow. People are complaining about the endings all over the Internet, on gaming forums, YouTube videos, you name it. Bioware can't ignore us, it would be in their best interest to release happy endings dlc, paid or free. There would be no point to playing me1 or 2 otherwise.

-Polite

There's nearly 14,000 comments on this thread alone. And yeah, I doubt Bioware can ignore us.

So how many games have they sold? More than 14k. Also...take a look at how many people are repeat posters. Ive watched this thread since it started and its safe to say several people have enough post to add up to multiple pages of this thread on their own. I could name off 4 or 5 posters that add up to at least 20 pages. Being loud, post count..means diddly. People cry about everything everywhere..big deal. Bioware can ignore you and it should be apparent they have since the leaked script first came out.

It's not just on this thread alone. It's all over the Internet. Look around.

[rivalcycle971]

After beating the game I've been letting my thoughts on the game stew. I've gotten gradually more and more depressed just thinking about it. The main question I have about the ending is why the Normandy had traveled through the relay at all- and why were those certain crewmates on it? I swear they added that just to torture the fans and I don't see the point of it. I would've so much rather they just didn't show the Normandy at all during the cutscene than to know you're going to be alive but never see your LI ever again. That's just a slap in the face =(.


That said, I was expecting bad things to happen at the ending, and I got it. I just wanted a resolution that had me either together with or speaking to Liara.

Modifié par rivalcycle971, 08 mars 2012 - 08:19 .

[Poquimo]

God I'm at the end right now and I can't even bring myself to do the final mission.

I just feel like after all the people we lost and all the tough choices and the struggling...having this kind of end is pretty much overkill. We got it. WE FEEL THE FEELS OKAY. Having a more concluded and less open ending and with a less bitter feel the game would have had EVEN more impact because we had to try so hard to get it. At least it would have for me. I would have been thinking about the game long after I played it, not trying to forget about the ending because it makes me disappointed and sad.

[DifferentD17]

I've been here since the beginning of this thread, and I had the smallest amount of hope that there would be other endings... Now I've played it and all hope is lost... I don't know what to do now, all my other Sheps are me useless now... So horrible... I guess I'll go play something better now...

[Jahannam]

J5550123 wrote...

Jahannam wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Whoa 500 pages. Wow. People are complaining about the endings all over the Internet, on gaming forums, YouTube videos, you name it. Bioware can't ignore us, it would be in their best interest to release happy endings dlc, paid or free. There would be no point to playing me1 or 2 otherwise.

-Polite

There's nearly 14,000 comments on this thread alone. And yeah, I doubt Bioware can ignore us.

So how many games have they sold? More than 14k. Also...take a look at how many people are repeat posters. Ive watched this thread since it started and its safe to say several people have enough post to add up to multiple pages of this thread on their own. I could name off 4 or 5 posters that add up to at least 20 pages. Being loud, post count..means diddly. People cry about everything everywhere..big deal. Bioware can ignore you and it should be apparent they have since the leaked script first came out.

It's not just on this thread alone. It's all over the Internet. Look around.

Im aware its all over. So is I like peanut butter on my nads.

Modifié par Jahannam, 08 mars 2012 - 08:16 .

[J5550123]

DifferentD17 wrote...

I've been here since the beginning
of this thread, and I had the smallest amount of hope that there would
be other endings... Now I've played it and all hope is lost... I don't
know what to do now, all my other Sheps are me useless now... So
horrible... I guess I'll go play something better now...

You just gotta try and be optimistic.

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 08:19 .

[DifferentD17]

J5550123 wrote...

DifferentD17 wrote...

I've been here since the beginning
of this thread, and I had the smallest amount of hope that there would
be other endings... Now I've played it and all hope is lost... I don't
know what to do now, all my other Sheps are me useless now... So
horrible... I guess I'll go play something better now...

You just gotta try and be optimistic.

Lol I don't even know why I should be on here now... what's the point of being optimistic if they copped out so easily. and it's not the first time I noticed them cutting corners.