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#13951
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Olueq wrote...

Terrible ending is terrible. I was under the impression that at least one ending was considered `good`. I dont really see a difference between them at all.


Because there essentially isn't.

#13952
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Lethania wrote...

What the hell did they do! 3 years, 3 years of Shepards life (and way longer of my own) and for what?! FOR WHAT! I finished it last night but wanted to give myself the night to mull things over, not "react at once". But **** I am still so disappointed. Ok, so Bioware got to tell us the story "they" wanted. Can they now give us a DLC that makes us fans happy?

I am soo sooo soooooo sad. What a waste time (for Shepard). Sure the games still gave me lots of nice moments, but they crushed my little gamer-heart. Do I even dare to glance at DA3 now? Will they just jump and spit on my broken gamer-heart again? How could you do this to us Bioware.

Give me a DLC now.


I am sad too, If there goal was to depress us and make us all mad, they did a agreat job.

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I'm glad to see I'm not alone coming on here.  All the way up until the end I kept thinking "this game is awesome, so many engaging moments, so many twists and turns, I can't wait to play it through again."

The ending crushed that entirely for me.  Honestly, I have no desire to fire up the game again tomorrow, and it'll likely be at least a couple months until I do.

Look, I get what BioWare was trying to do with the ending.  I truly do.  But I have enough heavy stuff going on in my life.  I play video games as a diversion to that.  One of the things that appealed to me so much about the ME stories (and Shepard in particular) was that he/she was one of those classical literature protagonists.  Always came out on top, despite overwhelming odds.  Stood for certain a certain set of ideals.  I've sunk a lot of time of my life spanning years into the trilogy. And I played with my character a certain way all the way through, with the hope that it would all make a difference.  That the universe could be 'saved'. That there would be a cliche, warm fuzzy, Star Wars Return of the Jedi ewoks lets have a party at the end.

All I wanted was a goddamn happy ending.

I know, I know.  The universe "was" saved.  But in an intellectual way.  But not life in the ME universe as I knew it and explored it and became attached to it.  And not any of the characters which I spent time becoming attached to.  It wasn't satisfying.  I came away just wholly disappointed.

I'm not even mad.  I'm not threatening a boycott, or throwing a hissy fit online, or logging onto metacritic.  I'm just upset, and sad.  That's not how a video game is supposed to make me feel.  Firing up games like ME is supposed to be my diversion away from those feelings.  Maybe that makes me narrow, or "entitled" or whatever, but I'm just an average PC gamer, don't really complain about a whole lot, enjoy my games, and if that's the feeling BioWare was looking to evoke in me with their product...

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Well maybe the endings are all almost the same because a sequel of some kind is in order?






Or maybe Bioware is lazy. Take your pick.

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PsychoticPenguin wrote...

I'm glad to see I'm not alone coming on here.  All the way up until the end I kept thinking "this game is awesome, so many engaging moments, so many twists and turns, I can't wait to play it through again."

The ending crushed that entirely for me.  Honestly, I have no desire to fire up the game again tomorrow, and it'll likely be at least a couple months until I do.

Look, I get what BioWare was trying to do with the ending.  I truly do.  But I have enough heavy stuff going on in my life.  I play video games as a diversion to that.  One of the things that appealed to me so much about the ME stories (and Shepard in particular) was that he/she was one of those classical literature protagonists.  Always came out on top, despite overwhelming odds.  Stood for certain a certain set of ideals.  I've sunk a lot of time of my life spanning years into the trilogy. And I played with my character a certain way all the way through, with the hope that it would all make a difference.  That the universe could be 'saved'. That there would be a cliche, warm fuzzy, Star Wars Return of the Jedi ewoks lets have a party at the end.

All I wanted was a goddamn happy ending.

I know, I know.  The universe "was" saved.  But in an intellectual way.  But not life in the ME universe as I knew it and explored it and became attached to it.  And not any of the characters which I spent time becoming attached to.  It wasn't satisfying.  I came away just wholly disappointed.

I'm not even mad.  I'm not threatening a boycott, or throwing a hissy fit online, or logging onto metacritic.  I'm just upset, and sad.  That's not how a video game is supposed to make me feel.  Firing up games like ME is supposed to be my diversion away from those feelings.  Maybe that makes me narrow, or "entitled" or whatever, but I'm just an average PC gamer, don't really complain about a whole lot, enjoy my games, and if that's the feeling BioWare was looking to evoke in me with their product...


This all the way

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PsychoticPenguin wrote...

I'm glad to see I'm not alone coming on here.  All the way up until the end I kept thinking "this game is awesome, so many engaging moments, so many twists and turns, I can't wait to play it through again."

The ending crushed that entirely for me.  Honestly, I have no desire to fire up the game again tomorrow, and it'll likely be at least a couple months until I do.

Look, I get what BioWare was trying to do with the ending.  I truly do.  But I have enough heavy stuff going on in my life.  I play video games as a diversion to that.  One of the things that appealed to me so much about the ME stories (and Shepard in particular) was that he/she was one of those classical literature protagonists.  Always came out on top, despite overwhelming odds.  Stood for certain a certain set of ideals.  I've sunk a lot of time of my life spanning years into the trilogy. And I played with my character a certain way all the way through, with the hope that it would all make a difference.  That the universe could be 'saved'. That there would be a cliche, warm fuzzy, Star Wars Return of the Jedi ewoks lets have a party at the end.

All I wanted was a goddamn happy ending.

I know, I know.  The universe "was" saved.  But in an intellectual way.  But not life in the ME universe as I knew it and explored it and became attached to it.  And not any of the characters which I spent time becoming attached to.  It wasn't satisfying.  I came away just wholly disappointed.

I'm not even mad.  I'm not threatening a boycott, or throwing a hissy fit online, or logging onto metacritic.  I'm just upset, and sad.  That's not how a video game is supposed to make me feel.  Firing up games like ME is supposed to be my diversion away from those feelings.  Maybe that makes me narrow, or "entitled" or whatever, but I'm just an average PC gamer, don't really complain about a whole lot, enjoy my games, and if that's the feeling BioWare was looking to evoke in me with their product...


What is especially egregious about this whole thing is that in ME2 they showed that they could have both a happy ending and a horrible ending and you could play to reach the ending you wanted, but no, now we have three depressing identical endings and people are defending it. :/ Hey I have an idea, why even have three options? Why have dialogue choices or decisions? Let's just cut all that **** away.

#13957
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Never in my life have I been reduced to incoherent rage and simultaneously so wanted to smash the offender to bits with a sledgehammer. My vehement reaction is in part I suppose is because I shelled out the cash for the collector's edition back in September, have been eagerly awaiting the game's release since then and felt so cheated by the end. Partly it's due to a lack of closure and the glaring plotholes and questions with no answers the end introduced.

For me, it's mostly how gut-wrenchingly horrid the ending was compared to entire rest of the game. I am, as I imagine it is for a lot of people, emotionally invested in the story, the characters and how everything's played out for my own Shepard. Hell, I found myself actually feeling the varied events of the story hit home, from Mordin's sacrifice "Goodbye, and good luck" to Thane's being fatally wounded by Kai Leng "I will eviscerate you" to finally getting to meet up with Ashley again and running missions proper with her and Garrus at my back (yes I'm one of Ash's supporters, but that's beside the point).

Even though I started the endgame earlier than I should have, with the reservations that it probably wasn't going to end well (did all the N7 missions and quite a few of the FedEx missions), I was expecting something a LOT less bleak than this. I'd expected Shepard, much like the galaxy, to come out battered, bruised and beaten to hell, but ultimately alive, ready for some post-game antics and some more playthroughs as I fixed what I'd done wrong originally.

Instead Commander Johnathan A. Shepard died aboard the Citadel/Catalyst/Crucible, the crew of his ship, the people he cared for most in the galaxy stranded on some tropical hellhole with no hope beyond a few generations (side note: c'mon Bioware, you pointed out the handful of Protheans left on Ilos wouldn't be able to make it, with a crew of 30 humans at best the Normandy's crew won't fare better) and with the relay network shattered civilzation will inevitably collapse (again Bioware, think this through, if a civilization is built on the premise of cheap and extremely rapid interstellar travel that the relay network allows, removing said network effectively spells doom for the civilization that depends on it).

Then there's multiplayer. From a pure gameplay standpoint I have nothing wrong with it and thoroughly enjoyed the demo. From a principle standpoint I refuse to be forced into playing multiplayer just to get the "best" ending of the game, is it too unreasonable to ask to finish the game and get a semi-upbeat ending before maybe doing another playthrough and then heading off to multiplayer? I'd planned both more runs through the game and spending plenty of time in multiplayer. Now? Not so much given Bioware managed to burn my faith in them.

Short of a public apology and some proper endings to the game I don't think I have the heart to do another runthrough of the game knowing in the end my choices don't matter. I know pulling off something akin to Broken Steel would be close to impossible given Bioware's legitimate concerns as a business, the logistical hassle in wrangling all the VAs back together (and given ME3's a rather verbose game... yeah) and other technical concerns I really can't hope for being able to play past the ending. I suppose all I can hope for is some proper closure to the story of  Commander Shepard and the races of 2156.

Sorry for the wall of text, but it had to be said.

tl;dr - 
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#13958
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Wow..........
I screwed up w/ Talie and Legion and decided to go internet hopping to see were I went wrong. In my google search for mass effect 3 Talie Legion ending I get a link to this page. After what I just skimmed threw I don't even think I can complete the game, whats the point. I asked for a day off of work so I could sit down a enjoy the game with out the sleepless day of work the next. I'm hurt and somewhat flabbergasted, add a sprinkling of anger and utter depression and I think that is close to how I feel at this moment. I don't want to play it. I see no positive emotional outcome for myself. I paused while writing this and looked up the three ending they have posted on YouTube by IGN. The time I put in to playing the 2 games were for not it seems. Bad form Bioware, the disgrace I feel for even buying this game makes me a little ill.

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allyon wrote...

Wow..........
I screwed up w/ Talie and Legion and decided to go internet hopping to see were I went wrong. In my google search for mass effect 3 Talie Legion ending I get a link to this page. After what I just skimmed threw I don't even think I can complete the game, whats the point. I asked for a day off of work so I could sit down a enjoy the game with out the sleepless day of work the next. I'm hurt and somewhat flabbergasted, add a sprinkling of anger and utter depression and I think that is close to how I feel at this moment. I don't want to play it. I see no positive emotional outcome for myself. I paused while writing this and looked up the three ending they have posted on YouTube by IGN. The time I put in to playing the 2 games were for not it seems. Bad form Bioware, the disgrace I feel for even buying this game makes me little a ill.


It's these kind of stories that makes it all the more heartbreaking for me. I really think I would feel better about the whole thing if I belonged to one of the few that didn't like the ending, but now I see story after story of how depressed people feel about their Mass Effect experience. That the developers don't care about that it hard to understand.

#13960
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...to take something out of "despicable me":

bioware (specially the devs and writers of ME) need a week in the "box of shame" to think about all they did wrong in ME3 (and to add to it: in DA2 as well)

and then, they could stick their heads together, call a time out (and tells us that they are doing it) and get to work on a nice, "good" ending DLC for small money (meaning: say 5 Euro...that would be about 10 dollars I guess (don't now the current conversion rate)) or even better (as it would make a lot of fans praise them again and restore trust) even for free :)

why?

because!

i mean, i started the game (i am about 4 hours in by now...didn't play "faster" because I still lack some of my equipment (defender armor? N7 assault-rifle? etc.) and I read that it took them 12 hours and more after official release in the united states to deliver the codes (i am waiting...might need to go to their chat though if i do not get that stuff soon....if someone could provide mit with a link to that via PN, I would be gratefull) and i do not want to play much without my stuff ;)...also i hate needing to buy my stuff again (armor, weapons, ship-models (some are scattered on my ship, i know), my fish etc...my poor normandy they mucked up...and then the ones doing the mucking (alliance of course) had the audacity to steal from me (my guns (if i would be a krogan i would shoot any alliance punk on sight for this slight), my armor, my ship-modells, my fish, my space hamster etc.)

well i keep my fingers crossed, also i have the feeling that our complaints will not be heard (the high and mighty devs on their throne do not listen to "lower beings"...it seems to be beneath them) because they did not react to it in any way until now...

well, if they do, i retract the statement and say sorry, but until now, they are worse then "god" (i do not believe - because if i would, i would need to hate the guy because he is ignoring humanity as a whole!)

greetings LAX

hey, by the way: is there an editor out already (i want to buy my stuff back but i do not want to "farm" money for that, i hate such mechanics...we are not in an MMO here :(

#13961
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It's done, ME ended in most cheapest way possible. The moment the crucible introduced i knew the end is going to bad just not THAT bad.

Modifié par Adakutay, 08 mars 2012 - 10:32 .


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Wait, WHERE WAS HARBINGER?

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Olueq wrote...

Wait, WHERE WAS HARBINGER?


He was the one that sent that lasers during our charge....

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Adakutay wrote...

Olueq wrote...

Wait, WHERE WAS HARBINGER?


He was the one that sent that lasers during our charge....

throughout the game, I mean. He was so prominent in ME2 yet was barely in ME3.

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The end killed the franchise. I have no desire to replay any of the games now knowing that it doesnt matter what choices I make – in the end you get the same crappy ending.

I just cant fathom how the developers can craft such an excellent game and then end it all with this garbage. What were they thinking?

#13966
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Yea, I agree on that.

I am no longer in the mood to play ME1 or ME2 again to get different Save Games for ME3. I know, that Shepard either dies or survives, but the endings still are ****ty as hell.

Whoever wrote the Plot and whoever decided to do it this way...this person/those persons really made no good job. Mass Effect 1 - 3 (short before last run) = best universe ever. ME3 (last run/ending) = WTF SRSLY?

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Giskler wrote...

The end killed the franchise. I have no desire to replay any of the games now knowing that it doesnt matter what choices I make – in the end you get the same crappy ending.

I just cant fathom how the developers can craft such an excellent game and then end it all with this garbage. What were they thinking?


This is interesting. Almost everyone feels and says the same things. I just feel no urge to play ME anymore too.

I remember Throne of Bhaal: That feeling of closure and content... I still can't believe ME ended like this.

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Giskler wrote...

The end killed the franchise. I have no desire to replay any of the games now knowing that it doesnt matter what choices I make – in the end you get the same crappy ending.

I just cant fathom how the developers can craft such an excellent game and then end it all with this garbage. What were they thinking?


Yeah I completely agree with this. What happened Bioware?

#13969
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Mass Effect 3 is amazing. I think the experience is very emotional and great, but the endings just ruin it for me. I wish they would have put a little more variety in them.

I mean they made every single other thing in the game depend on so many variables. The quarian/geth thing has 3 completely different outcomes. Why are the endings so similar?

#13970
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I don't usually post on forums, but i feel that i have to.
I finished the game with the "best" ending and it didn't feel right at all. All the work of uniting all the races and making peace and its all for bloody nothing.

After the Tali mission i thought the "best" ending would involve them being at the quarian home world, a house overlooking a canyon and tali without her suit.
Instead we're stuck with these depressing ending, i mean, we got enough misery in the real world and games provide a safe haven outside reality. We don't need more sadness.

Come on bioware, release a patch with all the possible "good" endings.

#13971
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It's not the the ending is depressing.

It's that the ending is ARBITRARILY depressing, for no good reason.

Why do the relays have to get blown up? What's with these bizarre choices? There is no rhyme or reason to it, just some random god-character giving you a bunch of lemons.

Why was the Normandy going through a relay jump?? Why strand them on some random planet?

If there is good buildup and reasons for sad events, it makes a story powerful. If sad events happen out of nowhere, for no apparent reason, it's just...horrible writing.

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This is one of the few times I have posted on any forums but ME3 endings demanded it.
ME3 is an awsome game except for the endings, now I am uninstalling it and ME1 & 2, I just dont want to play them anymore.

I realy did like this series now *sigh* its just taking up space on my hardrive

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It's also pretty clear that the endings were rushed. Why were my squad mates who supposedly died getting to the conduit alive back on the Normandy in the endings?

I just can't get over the feelings of disappointment. I was also one of those who grinned while playing since the first minute, the experience was just so good. Then the endings punched me in the soul.

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allyon wrote...

Wow..........
I screwed up w/ Talie and Legion and decided to go internet hopping to see were I went wrong. In my google search for mass effect 3 Talie Legion ending I get a link to this page. After what I just skimmed threw I don't even think I can complete the game, whats the point. I asked for a day off of work so I could sit down a enjoy the game with out the sleepless day of work the next. I'm hurt and somewhat flabbergasted, add a sprinkling of anger and utter depression and I think that is close to how I feel at this moment. I don't want to play it. I see no positive emotional outcome for myself. I paused while writing this and looked up the three ending they have posted on YouTube by IGN. The time I put in to playing the 2 games were for not it seems. Bad form Bioware, the disgrace I feel for even buying this game makes me a little ill.


I have always been the guy that when watching movies was a hardened shell never cired on an series or franchies of games. Then ME came, it changed me. it really did. I felt like i got to know the characters i cared deeply about what happened to them. I had a deep passion for Liara. What the ending lacked for me is closure. I am a student of military history. I get it. Its war, war costs lives, friends, family, loved ones. But i felt ****ed over when there was no way you could die with your loved one. I think anderson should be replaced on this part and have your LI up in the citidel if you had her while charging the beacon. I mean the game was great! It was an awesome roller coaster that had me guessing. But by the end, i couldn't even express my let down. All i wanted was closure for Liara and I really thats all i wanted. Instead i fry myself and destroy all synthetic life (bull**** btw) and see my friends and LI walking off a ship on a planet into the jungle. Its such crap, i layed awake for hours thinking about. Im so emotionally stone walled i duno if i will be able to focus at work today.

#13975
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I can't even replay the game to try out the other romances because i'm to depressed cause all of it doesn't matter at all in the end.

Give us extra/alternate endings or an epilogue that explains things.

Copy& paste my signature in your profile so bioware will notice.

Modifié par Caelistas, 08 mars 2012 - 11:43 .