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[mulder1199]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Hitchno wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

shep is retired, he risked everything for the galaxy and saved life as we know it...and he lost a lot of friends on the  way, we can ask no more of him"

So they should have given a suicide option then so you can simply screw over the galexy at large and let the reapers run amok too.

Agreed. I mean, Tali jumps off a clift, Liara dies in the final ground assault ( but mysteriously reappears on the normandy after it crash lands?? ) Everyone who Shep gathered around him is dead, and he got them killed.. Suicide sounds logical to me.. He's obviously somewhere between the quarian homeworld and the ending, become completely incompetent. If this was mid 17th century Japan, Shep wouldnt be the only one having to comit Seppuku. The entirety of Bioware would be following him.

oh, dont' worry about that, if you did your darndest to make sure he lives and he's stranded on a desolate planet he'll most likely go insane in about a year with nobody to talk to, especially knowing he got all of his friends killed, or worse (like us) he doesn't know what the hell happened....

[mulder1199]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

*Loads up ME3*
*Closes ME3*
I just have no interest in playing it until we get better endings.

been forcing myself to play, because i've looked forward to it for so long, but i'm dreading the ending


my wife keeps asking me why i seem down, i don't have the heart to tell her it's because there's no decent ending in my new video game....

Yeah, feel so childish, but it is really important to me.

i've invested 5 years, 3 360's, and over 1000 hours so far....i don't think it's childish....it's my favored passtime....i'd like it to be entertaining....not a huge let down...

[laughing sherpa girl]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

*Loads up ME3*
*Closes ME3*
I just have no interest in playing it until we get better endings.

been forcing myself to play, because i've looked forward to it for so long, but i'm dreading the ending


my wife keeps asking me why i seem down, i don't have the heart to tell her it's because there's no decent ending in my new video game....

Yeah, feel so childish, but it is really important to me.

Lets face it. We all spent a minimum of sixty dollars on this,expecting something enjoyable and satisfying, only to find out it wasnt. We feel taken, betrayed, bamboozled and made fools of, because a lot of us cant get that sixty dollars back. Thats money that could have been used for food, movies, bills or a more enjoyable game, and we are pissed because we feel ripped off. Like Shep learning that to win, he has to destroy everything thats taken millinea to construct. We feel similar because we have some of us, gone out on that limb, jeaprodizing our families and household ( if we have either).
Most of us are here on this thread because we really care, but sobering that is the fact that unless something is done by Bioware soon, many of us will never purchase anything from Bioware again.

Still, Looking at the BioWare home page and all its MMO offerings, i cant help but feel that Bioware is abandoning all of those of us who enjoy single player  games ( console or not ), on purpose. Perhpas they'll learn from the mass player exodus away from SWTOR and Warhammer, that MMO's are not their strong suit and someday get back to doing what they do best, but, by that time, we'll all have moved on.

Modifié par laughing sherpa girl, 08 mars 2012 - 08:08 .

[J5550123]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

*Loads up ME3*
*Closes ME3*
I just have no interest in playing it until we get better endings.

been forcing myself to play, because i've looked forward to it for so long, but i'm dreading the ending


my wife keeps asking me why i seem down, i don't have the heart to tell her it's because there's no decent ending in my new video game....

Yeah, feel so childish, but it is really important to me.

Lets face it. We all spent a minimum of sixty dollars on this,expecting something enjoyable and satisfying, only to find out it wasnt. We feel taken, betrayed, bamboozled and made fools of, because a lot of us cant get that sixty dollars back. Thats money that could have been used for food, movies, bills or a more enjoyable game, and we are pissed because we feel ripped off. Like Shep learning that to win, he has to destroy everything thats taken millinea to construct. We feel similar because we have some of us, gone out on that limb, jeaprodizing our families and household ( if we have either).
Most of us are here on this thread because we really care, but sobering that is the fact that unless something is done by Bioware soon, many of us will never purchase anything from Bioware again.

Basically spending money to be disappointed and depressed; I'd say we have a right to be upset.

[Bluumberry]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

*Loads up ME3*
*Closes ME3*
I just have no interest in playing it until we get better endings.

been forcing myself to play, because i've looked forward to it for so long, but i'm dreading the ending


my wife keeps asking me why i seem down, i don't have the heart to tell her it's because there's no decent ending in my new video game....

Yeah, feel so childish, but it is really important to me.

Lets face it. We all spent a minimum of sixty dollars on this,expecting something enjoyable and satisfying, only to find out it wasnt. We feel taken, betrayed, bamboozled and made fools of, because a lot of us cant get that sixty dollars back. Thats money that could have been used for food, movies, bills or a more enjoyable game, and we are pissed because we feel ripped off. Like Shep learning that to win, he has to destroy everything thats taken millinea to construct. We feel similar because we have some of us, gone out on that limb, jeaprodizing our families and household ( if we have either).
Most of us are here on this thread because we really care, but sobering that is the fact that unless something is done by Bioware soon, many of us will never purchase anything from Bioware again.

I for one think the 60 (or 80 euros in my case) were well worth just the journey towards the end.

Doesn't stop the endings from being a punch through my soul though.

[SCJ90]

What is the reason to play the series anymore, as many of you have said you lose intereset because everything that you have done doesn't matter in the end.

I think that we have the right to at least a response from Bioware I mean 566 pages and countless outer topics. Come on

[mulder1199]

SCJ90 wrote...

What is the reason to play the series anymore, as many of you have said you lose intereset because everything that you have done doesn't matter in the end.

I think that we have the right to at least a response from Bioware I mean 566 pages and countless outer topics. Come on

again, i just don't think we'll hear boo from them, at least not until after the euro release date and there's more backlash....

[laughing sherpa girl]

Bluumberry wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

*Loads up ME3*
*Closes ME3*
I just have no interest in playing it until we get better endings.

been forcing myself to play, because i've looked forward to it for so long, but i'm dreading the ending


my wife keeps asking me why i seem down, i don't have the heart to tell her it's because there's no decent ending in my new video game....

Yeah, feel so childish, but it is really important to me.

Lets face it. We all spent a minimum of sixty dollars on this,expecting something enjoyable and satisfying, only to find out it wasnt. We feel taken, betrayed, bamboozled and made fools of, because a lot of us cant get that sixty dollars back. Thats money that could have been used for food, movies, bills or a more enjoyable game, and we are pissed because we feel ripped off. Like Shep learning that to win, he has to destroy everything thats taken millinea to construct. We feel similar because we have some of us, gone out on that limb, jeaprodizing our families and household ( if we have either).
Most of us are here on this thread because we really care, but sobering that is the fact that unless something is done by Bioware soon, many of us will never purchase anything from Bioware again.

I for one think the 60 (or 80 euros in my case) were well worth just the journey towards the end.

Doesn't stop the endings from being a punch through my soul though.

Percisely. And a good journey is only a good journey when it can be celebrated at the end.  It doesnt matter if your saving the universe or driving across country to see your aunt Mathilda. The journey can add a lot of things, but unless the goal is reached, its all hollow and meaningless.

[J5550123]

SCJ90 wrote...

What is the reason to play the series anymore, as many of you have said you lose intereset because everything that you have done doesn't matter in the end.

I think that we have the right to at least a response from Bioware I mean 566 pages and countless outer topics. Come on

Here is a new poll guys and girls, that will apparently be sent to Bioware people.

http://social.biowar...63/polls/29084/

Modifié par J5550123, 08 mars 2012 - 08:12 .

[Xellith]

I feel worse after the ending than when I broke up with my girlfriend.

[People4Peace]

Ellykahn wrote...

The ending didnt feel like Mass Effect to me. Its like some other people made the ending and pasted it in the game.

Yeah, because it feels like Deus Ex. There is something wrong when ME is darker the Deus Ex! Hell, Adam Jenson can live so can Shep! EDIT - Obviously he can die too but there are other options! Actual choices.

I agree with others - I have lost my desire to play the game. However I will continue to play the game until Earth. After I say See you later (not goodbye) to my allies, crew and LI. Eventually I will finish the game and headcanon it but...I am in no mood to finish the game anytime soon.

And to the people that think its ALL about the LI, it isn't (though that is part of it). And it isn't just about what happens to Shep and her/his friends. (I would even be okay with Shep dying with her/his LI or friends/crew at this point!) Its the plot holes, the questions they've created, the fate of the Normandy and her crew, the stupid grandpa scene at the end (which I am completely ignoring BTW), the mass relays/space flight and what happens to the whole universe in general. A series shouldn't end by confusing and pissing off its players. Like others have mention, DA:O offered various choices! And if ME was all about choices, there would've been something similar. But it isn't about choice, they disregarded a lot of the ME1, ME2 and ME3 choices. Most players are forced into the same ending. Sure, I can destory, control and merge. So what? We don't even see how that has changed the galaxy and what kind of implications there will be from Shep's choice. Nothing. Therefore they all look very similar. Its also the way some of the devs have apparently trolled the players by telling us there can be a happy/perfect ending and that the endings are so different, players won't be forced into anything including Shep's death. <_< That is why many people thought (and maybe still think) that there is some secret ending out there.

There are various other issues I have with the game aside from the ending including: the purpose of the Reapers (Really?), the Guardian, the auto dialogue (Ex. I don't like my Shep flirting with people when I am picking a seemingly non-flirt "paragon" option), the way most of the ME2 characters are treated, the way the VS is treated, the sometimes choppy dialogue edits, the dark interior of the Normandy (Did someone forget to turn on the lights? People are working here!), some of the graphics, the CC import issues, the bugs and glitches related to movement and graphics, and the cover system. There might be more but thats what I have off the top of my head.
EDIT: I forgot about the photoshop stuff!! That is a huge problem to me. It shows how lazy they were. Even though they did it more than once, the biggest thing is definitely Tali's face. They could've been planning or thinking about this since ME1 but they take the easy way out and take something from Getty pictures? REALLY? My mind was blown when I read that......

So far I like the game. And from the sounds of it, I will like most of it until the final act. I don't hate ME3 and I doubt I will after beating it. I just don't have the same respect for the ME team. They obviously didn't think or care about fans reactions. They did what they wanted....but I believe they could've had what they wanted along with some options that most of their players (customers!!)  want. Win-Win. Even though they took away my desire and passion for ME3....they can't do that to my love of ME1 and ME2! <3

Modifié par People4Peace, 08 mars 2012 - 08:27 .

[laughing sherpa girl]

J5550123 wrote...

SCJ90 wrote...

What is the reason to play the series anymore, as many of you have said you lose intereset because everything that you have done doesn't matter in the end.

I think that we have the right to at least a response from Bioware I mean 566 pages and countless outer topics. Come on

Here is a new poll guys and girls, that will apparently be sent to Bioware people.

http://social.biowar...63/polls/29084/

Thnk you. I chose option 1. The endings are just too bitter..

When i was in VietNam, I was a permeter guard. I stoo between the VC and my brothers, and the Vietnamese people who were friendly towrds ameicans, and their kids. Yet, when i came home, i was called baby killer, monster, lots of names, by people who didnt even know my name. And here i am paying this entertainment offering, and in game expriencing the same bitterness and helplessness to do anything excet post here.. that isnt rght.

[GlobaLAP84]

I really hope Bioware will explain the ending because it was the most depressing ending I could have imagined(all three of them).

[J5550123]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

SCJ90 wrote...

What is the reason to play the series anymore, as many of you have said you lose intereset because everything that you have done doesn't matter in the end.

I think that we have the right to at least a response from Bioware I mean 566 pages and countless outer topics. Come on

Here is a new poll guys and girls, that will apparently be sent to Bioware people.

http://social.biowar...63/polls/29084/

Thnk you. I chose option 1. The endings are just too bitter..

When i was in VietNam, I was a permeter guard. I stoo between the VC and my brothers, and the Vietnamese people who were friendly towrds ameicans, and their kids. Yet, when i came home, i was called baby killer, monster, lots of names, by people who didnt even know my name. And here i am paying this entertainment offering, and in game expriencing the same bitterness and helplessness to do anything excet post here.. that isnt rght.

Vietnam veterans are true heroes for having to deal with the crap over there and the stupid civilians when they got back home. I'm sorry that you're upset about the endings.

[P_sutherland]

is it safe to play yet ?

[laughing sherpa girl]

J5550123 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

SCJ90 wrote...

What is the reason to play the series anymore, as many of you have said you lose intereset because everything that you have done doesn't matter in the end.

I think that we have the right to at least a response from Bioware I mean 566 pages and countless outer topics. Come on

Here is a new poll guys and girls, that will apparently be sent to Bioware people.

http://social.biowar...63/polls/29084/

Thnk you. I chose option 1. The endings are just too bitter..

When i was in VietNam, I was a permeter guard. I stoo between the VC and my brothers, and the Vietnamese people who were friendly towrds ameicans, and their kids. Yet, when i came home, i was called baby killer, monster, lots of names, by people who didnt even know my name. And here i am paying this entertainment offering, and in game expriencing the same bitterness and helplessness to do anything excet post here.. that isnt rght.

Vietnam veterans are true heroes for having to deal with the crap over there and the stupid civilians when they got back home. I'm sorry that you're upset about the endings.

nahhh, the civillians werent stupid. That war was wrong in so many ways, and they knew it. But the GIs werent the bad guys. We just got treated like we were.. My apoogies for going off topic.  But you see, Shep isnt the bad guy either, but he has to be in the end. Hes forced into a decision tree that no human has ever had to deal with because its not even a black and white tree. You have one option and only one. Destroy everything.. The final decision really isnt the players at all. Its been made and pre chreographed.  I used to think proctologists were bad, but the ending of this game makes therm look like saints.

In the early sixties during the Cuban Crisis, we came to within an inch of ME3s ending. Kennedy and Kruschev had their fingers on the button and enough nuclear material to turn the entire face of the planet into charcoal seventeen times over, was ready to launch.  Sound familiar??   Obviously, there were other solutions.

Modifié par laughing sherpa girl, 08 mars 2012 - 08:39 .

[PsychoticPenguin]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...
When i was in VietNam, I was a permeter guard. I stoo between the VC and my brothers, and the Vietnamese people who were friendly towrds ameicans, and their kids. Yet, when i came home, i was called baby killer, monster, lots of names, by people who didnt even know my name. And here i am paying this entertainment offering, and in game expriencing the same bitterness and helplessness to do anything excet post here.. that isnt rght.

I'm there with you.  I'm a physician and video games are one of the ways I decompress from all the suffering I work with every day.  I feel hopeless enough at work, I don't need to feel that way in my recreational diversions.

I was talking about this all with my wife (whose also a fan of the series) about why the ending was such a downer for us.  Because, really, I'm a fan of dark fiction.  But when it comes down to it, the Mass Effect story wasn't dark fiction.  It was classical space-odyssey hero-protagonist fiction.  That's what made the games such a great diversion at the end of the day, and such an enjoyable escape.  And that's why I had expectations of the possibility of a happy (even if bittersweet) ending, because it was the natural progression of the narrative up until that point.  To flip it at the last second into this dark sci-fi pseudo-Christianity deus ex machina ending robbed me of the natural progression of the narrative up until that point.  I think that's why it's so upsetting.  There is no underlying narrative thread about the inability of organics and synthetics to coexist throughout the three games.  If anything, the third game resolved that narrative with the quarians and geth.  If there IS that thread, and its building throughout the three games, sure, the ending works great.  But to just throw it on at the end, when your narrative up until that point was building to an entirely different endpoint, well, I'm not surprised so many are unsatisfied and upset.

[J5550123]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

J5550123 wrote...

SCJ90 wrote...

What is the reason to play the series anymore, as many of you have said you lose intereset because everything that you have done doesn't matter in the end.

I think that we have the right to at least a response from Bioware I mean 566 pages and countless outer topics. Come on

Here is a new poll guys and girls, that will apparently be sent to Bioware people.

http://social.biowar...63/polls/29084/

Thnk you. I chose option 1. The endings are just too bitter..

When i was in VietNam, I was a permeter guard. I stoo between the VC and my brothers, and the Vietnamese people who were friendly towrds ameicans, and their kids. Yet, when i came home, i was called baby killer, monster, lots of names, by people who didnt even know my name. And here i am paying this entertainment offering, and in game expriencing the same bitterness and helplessness to do anything excet post here.. that isnt rght.

Vietnam veterans are true heroes for having to deal with the crap over there and the stupid civilians when they got back home. I'm sorry that you're upset about the endings.

nahhh, the civillians werent stupid. That war was wrong in so many ways, and they knew it. But the GIs werent the bad guys. We just got treated like we were.. My apoogies for going off topic.  But you see, Shep isnt the bad guy either, but he has to be in the end. Hes forced into a decision tree that no human has ever had to deal with because its not even a black and white tree. You have one option and only one. Destroy everything.. The final decision really isnt the players at all. Its been made and pre chreographed.  I used to think proctologists were bad, but the ending of this game makes therm look like saints.

I'd say you have a right to go off-topic, so don't be sorry. And I just hate how the civilians were. I have a close relative who is a veteran of Vietnam too so I've been angry about their treatment for a long time. And yeah, that's why I'm trying to get Bioware to give us new endings. Most people play this game to be happy and get away from depressing things, not to just see everyone die in the end or get stranded.

[SCJ90]

I just have to say that the game was epic, when you first saw the reapers arrive, when you thought that Grunt died falling off a cliff, standing on the quarian homeworld, speaking with Garrus on Earth. The music and atmospher Everything about the game is just so awsome and this game could have been so much more if there was better endings, I think that the choices made in all the games should have counted towards the end and if you screwed up you should have been given the chanse to change it not get forced to 3 identical endings. This game could have been one off the biggest hits in a long time. I'm impressed by Bioware but also disappointed

[Katsumi Liqueur]

Bluumberry wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

mulder1199 wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

*Loads up ME3*
*Closes ME3*
I just have no interest in playing it until we get better endings.

been forcing myself to play, because i've looked forward to it for so long, but i'm dreading the ending


my wife keeps asking me why i seem down, i don't have the heart to tell her it's because there's no decent ending in my new video game....

Yeah, feel so childish, but it is really important to me.

Lets face it. We all spent a minimum of sixty dollars on this,expecting something enjoyable and satisfying, only to find out it wasnt. We feel taken, betrayed, bamboozled and made fools of, because a lot of us cant get that sixty dollars back. Thats money that could have been used for food, movies, bills or a more enjoyable game, and we are pissed because we feel ripped off. Like Shep learning that to win, he has to destroy everything thats taken millinea to construct. We feel similar because we have some of us, gone out on that limb, jeaprodizing our families and household ( if we have either).
Most of us are here on this thread because we really care, but sobering that is the fact that unless something is done by Bioware soon, many of us will never purchase anything from Bioware again.

I for one think the 60 (or 80 euros in my case) were well worth just the journey towards the end.

Doesn't stop the endings from being a punch through my soul though.

M1+M2+M3+DLCs+Novels = 200 dollars. Double that, because of the money in my country.

Add a lot of hours...


I know that it is important to me, the endings made me cry a lot and Im so sad and angry this week.

But feels childish to cry, to be so angry because they dont even WRITE anything! They say nothing about it. They made me cry in anger and they ignore my pleas over and over again.

I'm obsessed...


But I'll continue to shout for another end!

[Ksandor]

Let me summarize the last 566 pages for you:

J5550123 wrote...

Three endings, sixteen varaiations is what it is. Not different endings. And people are mad because Bioware lied and said the game had an ending where your choices mattered and that was false. They also basically just ended the game without concluding it.

This!

And Bioware is moving from single player to multiplayer (mainly MMORPG).

So they destroyed the single player universe first to force people to swallow the mediocre crap which will be included in their future games.

Just look at SWTOR story/script and compare it to KOTOR 1 and Baldur's Gate series and even to Jade Empire and you will see how far they have fallen.

Friends these people said in a Prezi presentation that Story is secondary and Gameplay is primary.

Christina Norman said that we build the gameplay first and insert the story later. Look where we got with that mentality.

I very much respect Bioware for what they have done with ME2. That game is a miracle! But ME3 is big fail.

Gameplay and story are equally important. If you think Story is secondary you get ME3 endings. I think they know it. They did this on purpose: New MMORPG campaign setting and maybe (they deny it but since they did not keep their word with ME3) for post game DLC milk cow.

BTW according to Bioware if you make a change in a sequel (like a trilogy) some people will always hate the game. As you can see they don't take us seriously. They go for cold game theories and numbers. We deslike ME3 not because of trivial things like the new default Femshep. We deslike the game because of the RADICAL changes they made like you see in the quote included here.

Do they take us for a fool? Apparently yes.

http://prezi.com/6xe...y-inventory-go/

Modifié par Ksandor, 08 mars 2012 - 09:04 .

[J5550123]

Ksandor wrote...

Let me summarize the last 566 pages for you:

J5550123 wrote...

Three endings, sixteen varaiations is what it is. Not different endings. And people are mad because Bioware lied and said the game had an ending where your choices mattered and that was false. They also basically just ended the game without concluding it.

This!

And Bioware is moving from single player to multiplayer (mainly MMORPG).

So they destroyed the single player universe first to force people to swallow the mediocre crap which will be included in their future games be it Mass Effect or not.

Just look at SWTOR story/script and compare it to KOTOR 1 and Baldur's Gate series and even to Jade Empire and you will see how far they have fallen.

Friends these people said in a Prezi presentation that Story is secondary and Gameplay is primary.

Christina Norman said that we build the gameplay first and insert the story later. Look where we got with that mentality.

I very much respect Bioware for what they have done with ME2. That game is a miracle! But ME3 is big fail.

Gameplay and story are equally important. If you think Story is secondary you get ME3 endings. I think they know it. They did this on purpose: New MMORPG campaign setting and maybe (they deny it but since they did not keep their word with ME3) for post game DLC milk cow.

BTW according to Bioware if you make a change in a sequel (like a trilogy) some people will always hate the game. As you can see they don't take us seriously. They go for cold game theories and numbers. We deslike ME3 not because of trivial things like the new default Femshep. We deslike the game because of the RADICAL changes they made like you in the quote included here.

Do they take us for a fool?

http://prezi.com/6xe...y-inventory-go/

Most of the complaints are about the endings too, which is a major problem. Bioware is definitely going to lose fans if they don't fix this problem, but if they just completely ignore us, nobody will have any respect for them.

[SCJ90]

J5550123 wrote...

Ksandor wrote...

Let me summarize the last 566 pages for you:

J5550123 wrote...

Three endings, sixteen varaiations is what it is. Not different endings. And people are mad because Bioware lied and said the game had an ending where your choices mattered and that was false. They also basically just ended the game without concluding it.

This!

And Bioware is moving from single player to multiplayer (mainly MMORPG).

So they destroyed the single player universe first to force people to swallow the mediocre crap which will be included in their future games be it Mass Effect or not.

Just look at SWTOR story/script and compare it to KOTOR 1 and Baldur's Gate series and even to Jade Empire and you will see how far they have fallen.

Friends these people said in a Prezi presentation that Story is secondary and Gameplay is primary.

Christina Norman said that we build the gameplay first and insert the story later. Look where we got with that mentality.

I very much respect Bioware for what they have done with ME2. That game is a miracle! But ME3 is big fail.

Gameplay and story are equally important. If you think Story is secondary you get ME3 endings. I think they know it. They did this on purpose: New MMORPG campaign setting and maybe (they deny it but since they did not keep their word with ME3) for post game DLC milk cow.

BTW according to Bioware if you make a change in a sequel (like a trilogy) some people will always hate the game. As you can see they don't take us seriously. They go for cold game theories and numbers. We deslike ME3 not because of trivial things like the new default Femshep. We deslike the game because of the RADICAL changes they made like you in the quote included here.

Do they take us for a fool?

http://prezi.com/6xe...y-inventory-go/

Most of the complaints are about the endings too, which is a major problem. Bioware is definitely going to lose fans if they don't fix this problem, but if they just completely ignore us, nobody will have any respect for them.

Well sadly it might not be up to Bioware..... If EA says that they have to drop it then sadly that is what they have to do.

[Ksandor]

J5550123 wrote...

Ksandor wrote...

Let me summarize the last 566 pages for you:

J5550123 wrote...

Three endings, sixteen varaiations is what it is. Not different endings. And people are mad because Bioware lied and said the game had an ending where your choices mattered and that was false. They also basically just ended the game without concluding it.

This!

And Bioware is moving from single player to multiplayer (mainly MMORPG).

So they destroyed the single player universe first to force people to swallow the mediocre crap which will be included in their future games be it Mass Effect or not.

Just look at SWTOR story/script and compare it to KOTOR 1 and Baldur's Gate series and even to Jade Empire and you will see how far they have fallen.

Friends these people said in a Prezi presentation that Story is secondary and Gameplay is primary.

Christina Norman said that we build the gameplay first and insert the story later. Look where we got with that mentality.

I very much respect Bioware for what they have done with ME2. That game is a miracle! But ME3 is big fail.

Gameplay and story are equally important. If you think Story is secondary you get ME3 endings. I think they know it. They did this on purpose: New MMORPG campaign setting and maybe (they deny it but since they did not keep their word with ME3) for post game DLC milk cow.

BTW according to Bioware if you make a change in a sequel (like a trilogy) some people will always hate the game. As you can see they don't take us seriously. They go for cold game theories and numbers. We deslike ME3 not because of trivial things like the new default Femshep. We deslike the game because of the RADICAL changes they made like you in the quote included here.

Do they take us for a fool?

http://prezi.com/6xe...y-inventory-go/

Most of the complaints are about the endings too, which is a major problem. Bioware is definitely going to lose fans if they don't fix this problem, but if they just completely ignore us, nobody will have any respect for them.

Honestly although ME3 is the weakest in the series because of senseless melodrama (like Kalisah totally acting out of character) and simplified investigate dialog options, the game is quite decent aside from the endings. But these are not true endings. They DO NOT end anything. No conclusion to the trilogy. Because we do not know the fate of the galaxy, fate of Shepard, fate of the love interest, fate of the Normandy crew, fate of the squad mates, fate of the Earth, fate of the galaxy.

[Xellith]

Im done giving my money to bioware and EA if this is the **** we are gonna be given. I'll just get my game fix by other means.