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[Hyrist]

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

[laughing sherpa girl]

Hyrist wrote...

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

I hate to be the one to say "you'll see", so i wont, but i will say that almost every single one of us in here, felt and feel exactly as you do.

[J5550123]

Hyrist wrote...

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

The game is fantastic, but the ending makes you feel like playing it or the other games again is pointless.

[Olueq]

Hyrist wrote...

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

Because of the ending I dont feel like playing a ME game ever again.

[laughing sherpa girl]

Its a sad day when the possibility of another "Fable" game by LionHead is more attractive than Mass Effect.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Its a sad day when the possibility of another "Fable" game by LionHead is more attractive than Mass Effect.

Oh, c'mon, Fable 3 killed the game too...

[Bledz]

Hyrist wrote...

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

It's not that the ending discredits the game as a good game.

It's that the ending leaves nothing but a bitter, unfulfilled taste in your mouth.  You don't want to play it again, you feel devoid of your connection to the story, the universe, and the characters. 

[laughing sherpa girl]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Its a sad day when the possibility of another "Fable" game by LionHead is more attractive than Mass Effect.

Oh, c'mon, Fable 3 killed the game too...

Precisely. And now they are making Fable 4: The Journey.. But i'd go back and play that missearble failure of a game a long time before i subject myself to another  runthrough of Mas Effects ending.

Modifié par laughing sherpa girl, 08 mars 2012 - 09:25 .

[Ilysail]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Its a sad day when the possibility of another "Fable" game by LionHead is more attractive than Mass Effect.

Oh that really is bottom of the barrel isnt it
Almost belongs on a headstone
R I P

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

I wonder... how many of you hated the ending of the Matrix Trilogy?  The reason I ask is because a lot of people thought that ending sucked because it turned out it was all a sham to stop a rogue Agent program.  Nobody ever actually left the Matrix and humanity remained enslaved in the end.  Thing is, that ending was classic cyberpunk.  You have no hope, you will die and all your struggles will have been in vain, but you still don't give up.

Now, I haven't beat the game yet, but I from what's been said on this thread... I'll probably like the ending because I like classic cyberpunk no hope but we fight anyway.   I've seen from the beginning that aspect.  The Reapers are confident. The Reapers are strong.  The Protheans thought they could win.  They failed.  Whether we defeat the Reapers or not, the odds are against us.  

Some said it seems people want a happy ending with rainbows, flowers and a big orgy.  .  This game has never been rainbows, and I think it would be a disservice to the genre for it to have a TOTALLY happy ending.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Its a sad day when the possibility of another "Fable" game by LionHead is more attractive than Mass Effect.

Oh, c'mon, Fable 3 killed the game too...

Precisely. And now they are making Fable 4: The Journey.. But i'd go back and play that missearble failure of a game a long time before i subject myself to another  runthrough of Mas Effects ending.

Uhn, true if I look from your perspective...

OMFG, this is so wrong!

[Katsumi Liqueur]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

I wonder... how many of you hated the ending of the Matrix Trilogy?  The reason I ask is because a lot of people thought that ending sucked because it turned out it was all a sham to stop a rogue Agent program.  Nobody ever actually left the Matrix and humanity remained enslaved in the end.  Thing is, that ending was classic cyberpunk.  You have no hope, you will die and all your struggles will have been in vain, but you still don't give up.

Now, I haven't beat the game yet, but I from what's been said on this thread... I'll probably like the ending because I like classic cyberpunk no hope but we fight anyway.   I've seen from the beginning that aspect.  The Reapers are confident. The Reapers are strong.  The Protheans thought they could win.  They failed.  Whether we defeat the Reapers or not, the odds are against us.  

Some said it seems people want a happy ending with rainbows, flowers and a big orgy.  .  This game has never been rainbows, and I think it would be a disservice to the genre for it to have a TOTALLY happy ending.

Mass Effect NEVER presents itself as a cyberpunk game.

[Ksandor]

Bledz wrote...

Hyrist wrote...

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

It's not that the ending discredits the game as a good game.

It's that the ending leaves nothing but a bitter, unfulfilled taste in your mouth.  You don't want to play it again, you feel devoid of your connection to the story, the universe, and the characters. 

How true, how true!

[Ameno Xiel]

Simply won't play the singleplayer till there is some fix to this. Period.

Good god Bioware what have you done to this game!? I saluted,cried,laughed and pumped my fist so often in the air while playing the first two games and then you go and butcher it all in the so called "Final" with those good for nothing endings...

My Shepard deserves better than that. Hell - "I" - as a fan deserve better than that!

[Ilysail]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

I wonder... how many of you hated the ending of the Matrix Trilogy?  The reason I ask is because a lot of people thought that ending sucked because it turned out it was all a sham to stop a rogue Agent program.  Nobody ever actually left the Matrix and humanity remained enslaved in the end.  Thing is, that ending was classic cyberpunk.  You have no hope, you will die and all your struggles will have been in vain, but you still don't give up.

Now, I haven't beat the game yet, but I from what's been said on this thread... I'll probably like the ending because I like classic cyberpunk no hope but we fight anyway.   I've seen from the beginning that aspect.  The Reapers are confident. The Reapers are strong.  The Protheans thought they could win.  They failed.  Whether we defeat the Reapers or not, the odds are against us.  

Some said it seems people want a happy ending with rainbows, flowers and a big orgy.  .  This game has never been rainbows, and I think it would be a disservice to the genre for it to have a TOTALLY happy ending.

I would have agreed with you before playing the ending. The entire Crucible/Catalyst idea was just awful. It seemed silly all the way though. Then you get to the end and not only is it nonsensical, but theres no sense of victory, you just get .... crap.

[laughing sherpa girl]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Its a sad day when the possibility of another "Fable" game by LionHead is more attractive than Mass Effect.

Oh, c'mon, Fable 3 killed the game too...

Precisely. And now they are making Fable 4: The Journey.. But i'd go back and play that missearble failure of a game a long time before i subject myself to another  runthrough of Mas Effects ending.

Uhn, true if I look from your perspective...

OMFG, this is so wrong!

::chuckles:: I have a very odd perspective, but it seems to have found a large group of similar perspectives here.

[People4Peace]

Bledz wrote...

Hyrist wrote...

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

It's not that the ending discredits the game as a good game.

It's that the ending leaves nothing but a bitter, unfulfilled taste in your mouth.  You don't want to play it again, you feel devoid of your connection to the story, the universe, and the characters. 

Exactly. I feel like I was punished for caring about Shep, the crew, the LI(s), the Normandy, all the species...just the whole universe in general! If I wasn't emotionally invested in the game (probably like a lot of the new ME players that start with 3), I probably wouldn't care about how crappy the ending was and I probably wouldn't know about the plot holes and how they created more questions than answers.

[AbsolutGrndZer0]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

I wonder... how many of you hated the ending of the Matrix Trilogy?  The reason I ask is because a lot of people thought that ending sucked because it turned out it was all a sham to stop a rogue Agent program.  Nobody ever actually left the Matrix and humanity remained enslaved in the end.  Thing is, that ending was classic cyberpunk.  You have no hope, you will die and all your struggles will have been in vain, but you still don't give up.

Now, I haven't beat the game yet, but I from what's been said on this thread... I'll probably like the ending because I like classic cyberpunk no hope but we fight anyway.   I've seen from the beginning that aspect.  The Reapers are confident. The Reapers are strong.  The Protheans thought they could win.  They failed.  Whether we defeat the Reapers or not, the odds are against us.  

Some said it seems people want a happy ending with rainbows, flowers and a big orgy.  .  This game has never been rainbows, and I think it would be a disservice to the genre for it to have a TOTALLY happy ending.

Mass Effect NEVER presents itself as a cyberpunk game.

Figured people would miss my point.  Cyberpunk isn't just the type of technology and things like that.  It's also the state of the world and the struggles of the people.  In THAT aspect, Mass Effect has similiarites.  I think an early thread someone called it "Dark Sci-Fi" and I think that fits better than cyberpunk, but my point in mentioning cyberpunk was again not the tech and such, but the "No hope but to give up is to die." scenario that it shares.

Modifié par AbsolutGrndZer0, 08 mars 2012 - 09:38 .

[raybiker73]

 I went into ME3 expecting a disappointing ending, and by disappointing I mean sad, not let down. A true happy ending was pretty much out of the question, I figured. Seeing the Reapers have Earth for all intents and purposes destroyed in the first ten minutes made me think, "uh oh." Seeing the husk-eyed Cerberus troops made me think, "this will not end well."  Seeing the end of the Shroud tower/genophage cure made me realize that the bottom was completely out of the tub - no happy endings here. Seeing the endings made me think I was watching Battlestar Galactica again. I could have handled a devastating ending, an everyone dies ending, even a Shepard dies to save everyone else ending, but the vague ending(s) we got just didn't do anything for me. Like I said, replace Higher Being Citadel Kid with Higher Being Starbuck, and you get a game series that started with the high ideals of Babylon 5 and ended with the limp slap of BSG.

They've scattered species turian, asari and batarian
I am the very model of a discouraged Mass Effect fan.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

I wonder... how many of you hated the ending of the Matrix Trilogy?  The reason I ask is because a lot of people thought that ending sucked because it turned out it was all a sham to stop a rogue Agent program.  Nobody ever actually left the Matrix and humanity remained enslaved in the end.  Thing is, that ending was classic cyberpunk.  You have no hope, you will die and all your struggles will have been in vain, but you still don't give up.

Now, I haven't beat the game yet, but I from what's been said on this thread... I'll probably like the ending because I like classic cyberpunk no hope but we fight anyway.   I've seen from the beginning that aspect.  The Reapers are confident. The Reapers are strong.  The Protheans thought they could win.  They failed.  Whether we defeat the Reapers or not, the odds are against us.  

Some said it seems people want a happy ending with rainbows, flowers and a big orgy.  .  This game has never been rainbows, and I think it would be a disservice to the genre for it to have a TOTALLY happy ending.

Mass Effect NEVER presents itself as a cyberpunk game.

Figured people would miss my point.  Cyberpunk isn't just the type of technology and things like that.  It's also the state of the world and the struggles of the people.  In THAT aspect, Mass Effect has similiarites.  I think an early thread someone called it "Dark Sci-Fi" and I think that fits better than cyberpunk, but my point in mentioning cyberpunk was again not the tech and such, but the "No hope but to give up is to die." scenario that it shares.

I understand your point, but I dont write very well in english so I adress only to this fact.

I know what cyberpunk is, I read the Sprawl Trilogy, I read a lot of cyberpunk storys and even play RPG.

But I dont see any similarity between CP and ME. It was never really that dark and grimm and the struggle isnt the same that we can find in Neuromance, Matrix and Aasimov.

[People4Peace]

Ameno Xiel wrote...

Simply won't play the singleplayer till there is some fix to this. Period.

Good god Bioware what have you done to this game!? I saluted,cried,laughed and pumped my fist so often in the air while playing the first two games and then you go and butcher it all in the so called "Final" with those good for nothing endings...

My Shepard deserves better than that. Hell - "I" - as a fan deserve better than that!

So true.

[laughing sherpa girl]

Meh, I can understand the cyberpunk perspective and philosophy, but the ideal is little more than depressed existentialism, and even that has brighter options. Still if i were to hand you a paper towel and tell you to tear down a brick wall with it, youd probably walk away as would any sane person would. We arent looking for bright happy endings. If we wanted tht we'd all be watching my little pony and playing some three year olds spelling education game. What we want, is an ending thast respects our decisions made during the series, an ending that honors those decisions, and leaves us feeling something other than complete fools for having wasted all that time money snd effort in our attempts to reach those exact last ten minutes in the game. We want better options for the ending.

[Bluumberry]

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

AbsolutGrndZer0 wrote...

I wonder... how many of you hated the ending of the Matrix Trilogy?  The reason I ask is because a lot of people thought that ending sucked because it turned out it was all a sham to stop a rogue Agent program.  Nobody ever actually left the Matrix and humanity remained enslaved in the end.  Thing is, that ending was classic cyberpunk.  You have no hope, you will die and all your struggles will have been in vain, but you still don't give up.

Now, I haven't beat the game yet, but I from what's been said on this thread... I'll probably like the ending because I like classic cyberpunk no hope but we fight anyway.   I've seen from the beginning that aspect.  The Reapers are confident. The Reapers are strong.  The Protheans thought they could win.  They failed.  Whether we defeat the Reapers or not, the odds are against us.  

Some said it seems people want a happy ending with rainbows, flowers and a big orgy.  .  This game has never been rainbows, and I think it would be a disservice to the genre for it to have a TOTALLY happy ending.

Mass Effect NEVER presents itself as a cyberpunk game.

Figured people would miss my point.  Cyberpunk isn't just the type of technology and things like that.  It's also the state of the world and the struggles of the people.  In THAT aspect, Mass Effect has similiarites.  I think an early thread someone called it "Dark Sci-Fi" and I think that fits better than cyberpunk, but my point in mentioning cyberpunk was again not the tech and such, but the "No hope but to give up is to die." scenario that it shares.

Your point was that you have not seen the endings. Because the ending doesn't come down to "we fight the reapers even though there's no hope". It comes down to "oh hey let's pull this plot device out of our asses and create plot holes and answer none of the questions that we've given the players". I could add a lot more of what they also did but that list would be way too long.

[nitefyre410]

Hyrist wrote...

I'll comment on the ending when I've completed it.

But I'll comment this far - it's simply not possible for the ending to 'ruin' the game for me at this point. The game thus far and the surprisingly good multiplayer have secured this as a good game, regardless of my opinion of the ending.

 

The game is damn fantastic but the endings are just sloppy and  a mess, bring no kind of resolution - it all feels forced.   Like it wanted to as a question to leave  us the player with something to think about but it never asked that question, in never posed that  issue was it grim at times,  yes it need to be. 

[Fair34]

Ugh those are the endings? Really, Bioware? Really?? Completely kills any desire to replay any of the previous ME games. No point.

I suspect, though, that EA/Bioware is going to pull a Fallout 3 on us for more $$.