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XyleJKH

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ok just finished the game as well... again, like many, quite disappointed. I had so much faith in this game. This game made us more connected to Shepard, his crew and the universe more than any of the other games. The LI scenes where breath taking, passionate (at least Liara's was, don't know the others yet), you made friends with all your crew, connected... nothing really matter. I know it was going to be a dark story, which is fine, but not like this
Even if they had the LI's die for a dramatic scene, would be epic. I have never been so bummed out over a game. And after the credits? What the hell was that??
I just don't know. No interaction with Harbinger either, except for the part where he almost kills you I guess. But I just can't believe it ended like this. All this time, this is how the game ends. Nothing really compares to it does it? This why Drew left? Did not agree with this vision?
Not sure what to say honestly. I mean, I don't even want to try other play throughs with my other Sheps...
Why? Why bioware, I really want to know why?

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Just give us a modding tool and we'll do it ourselves, one can dream...

#14203
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Xellith wrote...

Turians and Humans are too biologically different. If you eat turian food you die for example. The best an interspecies couple could do would be to adopt.- and I bet there would be plenty of children after the war. Unless your dating an asari that is.

But seriously bioware you gave us THIS? **** me. I wish someone would just kill me. This is just urgh.


Obviously :P I was just poking fun. Garrus was the one that suggests it anyways.

#14204
XyleJKH

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I guess... I don't know.
Maybe I needed to just not be so invested in what was an awesome saga... sorry I really am bummed... where's my drugs...

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Xellith wrote...

If you could prove to me that bioware do this then that would be the only reason to ever play ME3 ever again.  I will never touch Mass Effect again if this is what we have.

They did it for ME2.
http://www.destructo...ng-188362.phtml 

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Taleroth wrote...

Xellith wrote...

If you could prove to me that bioware do this then that would be the only reason to ever play ME3 ever again.  I will never touch Mass Effect again if this is what we have.

They did it for ME2.
http://www.destructo...ng-188362.phtml 


The end of that article... about completing Mass Effect 3 30 times. Wow lol 
no one even wants to have a second go at it now it seems. 

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Militarized wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Xellith wrote...

If you could prove to me that bioware do this then that would be the only reason to ever play ME3 ever again.  I will never touch Mass Effect again if this is what we have.

They did it for ME2.
http://www.destructo...ng-188362.phtml 


The end of that article... about completing Mass Effect 3 30 times. Wow lol 
no one even wants to have a second go at it now it seems. 


I'm sure a lot of people have even sold their copy by now.

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Taleroth wrote...

You know what would be kind of cool, but impossible?

If we could organize a very really campaign where everyone plays the game up until the ending and then ALT+F4s. Bioware keeps metrics on where people stop playing the game and what ending they choose. And it would be fantastic if their metrics included that of the people who got to the final area, only a few of them chose any ending at all.

Take a fourth option, if you will. It'll never happen. But a man can dream.


I am on the Xbox 360 so I can't do the last part but I will definitely stop before the end of the game. Not sure if they can track that on the console...but I'll do it anyway!

@Bluumberry  They can't have kids but they can adopt! Haven't gotten the scene yet but apparently he mentions Krogan babies! Shep and Garrus raising a krogan, human and/or turian! YES! <3 But I honestly wish Bioware left that part out for Garrus (and other LIs that have similar *after the battle* dialogue). I feel like its a slap in the face...they're sadists...<_<

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First off let me say that i'm VERY disappointed in the endings of this game, however:

I think the IDEA of these endings could work, but Bioware COMPLETELY botched the execution. The "cycle" plot makes no sense without a backstory. So instead of being some revolutionary like: "The Citadel is a VI that controls these cycles because the first race, the builders, saw uprising after uprising of Synthetic life in their time, and so created a way to deal with it." 

Instead we get VI kid: "I'm the Guardian! We destroy life over and over because we can't let synthetics win!" Even though he's basically being a hypocrite. You know, Synthetic life destroying all organic life every 50,000 years.

Then of course, there is are the 3 endings. All of which I can work with. Accept the actual endings are all the same... With just slightly different dialog leading up to it, and meaning at the end. However, I wish there was a let Shepard live AND not kill the Geth and Edi.

The endings also raise some questions:
1: How did the crew get back to the ship? They were all on the planet kicking ass with me.
2: Why was joker in FTL running away from the energy thing?
3: Why were the Mass Effect engines on the Normandy Destroyed? 
4: Was ALL Mass Effect technology destroyed?
5: What happened to the HUGE FREAKING FLEET that was over Earth? How will they get home?

These are just a few, if you'd like to add your own questions i'd be happy to add them to the list.

To sum up, the idea behind the endings could have worked. But in the execution of them, we are left with WAY to many unanswered questions, and no extra story to tell us how the galaxy sorts its self out.
On a side note: I forsee DLC EXPLAINING how it all works out! 

PS: WTB: Taking Back Omega DLC.

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I decided that not replaying it at all is the best form of protest. Just never touching it again. Mass effect is now dead to me.

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There is only 1 ending re-purposed in slightly different ways and that really stinks for all the effort and time put into this.

I honestly feel like every mission, decision and thought I put into the game meant absolutely ZERO due to this funneled down disappointing ending.

I am not looking for “rainbows and unicorns” at the end, in fact I anticipated much of the crew dying – but for a reason with a purpose, not like this non sense.

I also figured incorrectly that in the end my LI would go down with me in a blaze of glory or at least we would be together in some way at the end, nope can’t have that either, your crew is stranded left for dead and your dead or all alone ,,,,

BW developers or writers or management really lost the RP perspective and messed with the emotional attachment the fan base had with this game.

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People4Peace wrote...

@Bluumberry  They can't have kids but they can adopt! Haven't gotten the scene yet but apparently he mentions Krogan babies! Shep and Garrus raising a krogan, human and/or turian! YES! <3 But I honestly wish Bioware left that part out for Garrus (and other LIs that have similar *after the battle* dialogue). I feel like its a slap in the face...they're sadists...<_<


I know, I'm the one who has uploaded the scene on youtube :P

That scene makes me cry every time, despite knowing the endings suck.

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XyleJKH

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Yeah.... no good ending at all right? And what the hell was up with the after credits scene.... I heard the ending was bad, but never anticipated this. Why would they do this. All we will get from them is " sorry you didn't like the way we ended likely one of the best franchises in gaming history as a depressing thing. "
Words can not describe how bummed I am. It's like the ending of evangelion... sad, and way too emo...

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Bluumberry wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

@Bluumberry  They can't have kids but they can adopt! Haven't gotten the scene yet but apparently he mentions Krogan babies! Shep and Garrus raising a krogan, human and/or turian! YES! <3 But I honestly wish Bioware left that part out for Garrus (and other LIs that have similar *after the battle* dialogue). I feel like its a slap in the face...they're sadists...<_<


I know, I'm the one who has uploaded the scene on youtube :P

That scene makes me cry every time, despite knowing the endings suck.


Ah okay. I misunderstood you. Like I said I am not at that point in the story yet, I am sure I will cry or at least be emotional....especially considering that after my conversation with him (and whoever else is around) I'll be saving and turning it off for a LONG time. Not sure when I will beat it.....

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See you guys....

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The game just released 8 minutes ago for most of Europe, let's hope there will maybe now be an official statement on Monday - BW is probably trying to protect sales, by staying silent.

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Yet another poll guys and girls.

http://social.biowar...51/polls/29093/

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Hopefully someone can answer this for me...

I'm currently romancing Kaidan and if I choose not to take him with me to the final battle, will he still step out of the Normandy after the crash regardless of whether I take him with me or not? Or is he stuck on Earth somewhere?

I think my q boils down to - are the people stepping out of the Normandy at the end set to be the people you take with you or is it set to be some other thing, like your LI and your favorite NPC?

I just want to be prepped for suck, either way.

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Takibanazaki wrote...

The game just released 8 minutes ago for most of Europe, let's hope there will maybe now be an official statement on Monday - BW is probably trying to protect sales, by staying silent.


They can stay silent all they want.  There is a huge chunk of the community who are very vocal who will give the world our opinion. Im giving my honest opinion on amazon (when it lets me) to hopefully save some fans some time and money.

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Xellith wrote...

Takibanazaki wrote...

The game just released 8 minutes ago for most of Europe, let's hope there will maybe now be an official statement on Monday - BW is probably trying to protect sales, by staying silent.


They can stay silent all they want.  There is a huge chunk of the community who are very vocal who will give the world our opinion. Im giving my honest opinion on amazon (when it lets me) to hopefully save some fans some time and money.


If they fix it, then I would definitely recommend people to buy it. But right now I can't because it only seems to be making people feel horrible.

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J555 you have to change your signature colour to make it stand out more ;) Its an eyesore of a colour but least people see it better I guess.

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I still can't believe that this is the best Bioware writers could come up with. Finished the game 2 hours ago and I'm still in denial.

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Modifié par Olueq, 08 mars 2012 - 11:21 .


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People4Peace wrote...

Bluumberry wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

@Bluumberry  They can't have kids but they can adopt! Haven't gotten the scene yet but apparently he mentions Krogan babies! Shep and Garrus raising a krogan, human and/or turian! YES! <3 But I honestly wish Bioware left that part out for Garrus (and other LIs that have similar *after the battle* dialogue). I feel like its a slap in the face...they're sadists...<_<


I know, I'm the one who has uploaded the scene on youtube :P

That scene makes me cry every time, despite knowing the endings suck.


Ah okay. I misunderstood you. Like I said I am not at that point in the story yet, I am sure I will cry or at least be emotional....especially considering that after my conversation with him (and whoever else is around) I'll be saving and turning it off for a LONG time. Not sure when I will beat it.....


Sadly you can't save at the area where the goodbyes are held. You only get one autosave at the beginnig of the area and are not allowed to save by yourself.

OT: I'm getting a lot of people defending the endings by saying "It's a good ending if Anderson and Shepard survive! There's not only 3 endings!" /facepalm
How is Anderson and Shepard surviving a good ending when the all 3 endings make no sense. And they cna keep arguing over 16 endings but as was said before there's only 3 with variables that don't matter at all.

#14225
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I finished the game last night and have never been more disappointed. BioWare is my favorite developer. Mass Effect is my favorite series (of anything, ever). Twenty-four hours ago I was merely sad that I was almost finished. I knew that characters I loved would die. I knew it wouldn't be perfect. What I got though? Beyond my worst nightmares. It was a fantastic game until the last fifteen minutes. That ending didn't just make me sad. That ending somehow managed to take away every happy moment from the other games. I feel like it was all so pointless. There isn't any hope. It's just...horrible.

The sad thing is, I want to play ME again. Part of me has this desire to go back and play one and two. But I can't. I know what's coming and I can't do that again.

Fifteen minutes managed to kill the entire series. I've felt awful all day. Maybe it's silly because it's just a video game...but somehow it seems like more than that. To watch Shepard and her crew end that way? To watch that happen to this universe that I adore? It isn't worth it. I wish I'd never played Mass Effect.

That said, if they fix this with DLC I most certainly WILL buy it. I want and need closure. I want that stupid Disney ending. Or even something slightly less depressing than what we got. At this point, Shepard and Kaidan dying together would be fine.