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Xellith wrote...

J555 you have to change your signature colour to make it stand out more ;) Its an eyesore of a colour but least people see it better I guess.


I'll try to change it.

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XyleJKH

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Yep I know what you mean... sacrifice thing I get, but nothing matters. None of it. Not once did it matter. Ultimatum ending.... I feel ashamed, disgusted and appalled but I would pay for a happier ending dlc. I really think I'm having an anxiety attack lol.

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Screams developer laziness to me.

All of the endings are absolute garbage, plain and simple. There is zero resolution to your choices in the trilogy and consequently, your decisions don't really matter at all, as you're essentially pigeon-holed into a singular path. The ending is poorly written, it spews lackluster dialogue, and it struggles with it's own conclusion. The game boasts quite the production values, but this only underscores how poorly the writers have done in utilizing the talent at their disposal.

When I first completed one of the endings I was intrigued, and subsequently played through the others, but it didn't take long to come to the realization that there is simply no "there" there. Short of the somewhat unique premise of the conclusions, there is absolutely nothing about this game that warrants the attention it is getting at this point. Are people really so shallow that they fall for this sophomoric, gimmicky drivel?

Short of a massive FREE patch/update, I certainly won't be playing through this, or any other previous games again. I doubt I'll purchase another Bioware product.

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I have a million dollar question(s). WHAT THE **** HAPPENED AT THE END? I honestly dont understand it. How did shepards squad appear on the ship anyway? Why was joker by the relay? Did he pick them up, as well as everyone else and fly to the relay in such a short amount of time and then try to outrun the relay? Why did the relay send them to a random planet? WHat happened to the normandy crew? What happened to the rest of the galaxy? Why was there a retarded epilogue that made no sense? How does shepard survive getting shot by Harbinger and crashing on earth from orbit? Why did I see Liara in my flashbacks? This was the best ending?

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I posted this elsewhere but think it may be more relevant to this, the main ending thread.

The reapers goal is really something that irks me as its so dumb. You could have left it UNEXPLAINED and it would be better. I mean when sovereign said that their goals were incomprehensible then you could have left it there and not tried to explain it as its beyond human perception, but all we do need to know is basically life as we know it would be destroyed like with the protheans.

What would have made more sense though was the way I thought they may have been going from ME2, where they re purposed the Protheans into the collectors and where using the organic material of the colonists to make that sort of human reaper thing - that our galaxy, and maybe others were kind of farms, where they left the relays left some life to grow and develop then came and harvested or even reaped, the organics, for materials and for use as in the collectors.

To my mind this would have made more sense.

The holes in the ending are what really get my motor going, how similar they are & with no extrapolation of the ramifications of these last actions. I would have liked 2/3 more endings. 1) You cannot win, reapers wipe all out, starting cycle again, 2) A much more positive ending for all the work you have done paying off, some loses/some crew die but theres a chance for the crew to not be stranded in the sticks and Shepard be with them, with/without LI & 3) Reapers win, buuuuuuut through Shepards actions there is something left, so when the cycle comes full circle next time the organics will have a chance to break it.

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As with many others in this thread, I have been playing the Mass Effect games for years.
Playing and replaying the first 2 over and over again, loving the universe and characters. The last 15 minutes of Mass effect 3.... somehow have sucked all the meaning and joy out of the whole series.
Why would I go back and play the other games again, none of it matters at all.
ME3 had me laughing , and in tears several times throughout. But the ending of the series was so...I don't even know how to put it.
It just hit me so hard, that none of it matters. I didn't realize until the ending happened and I was siting there looking and my screen, how emotionally invested I was in the world and the characters. Seeing all if it instantly and abruptly come to an end despite all my efforts over the games, puts me on the brink of crying.
Seems silly , but man, thinking that after all that , all the characters and stories that get cut short right as they start to resolve. I feel so terrible about this , I wish I hadn't played mass effect at all. Emotionally draining.
I would normally never say this, but to get an option to get an ending that doesn't make me wish I had never picked up the game. I would pay nearly any price for a patch or DLC that fixed this. For no other series would I do this.

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We just have to keep trying and hope we get new endings from Bioware.

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aespopd wrote...

As with many others in this thread, I have been playing the Mass Effect games for years.
Playing and replaying the first 2 over and over again, loving the universe and characters. The last 15 minutes of Mass effect 3.... somehow have sucked all the meaning and joy out of the whole series.
Why would I go back and play the other games again, none of it matters at all.
ME3 had me laughing , and in tears several times throughout. But the ending of the series was so...I don't even know how to put it.
It just hit me so hard, that none of it matters. I didn't realize until the ending happened and I was siting there looking and my screen, how emotionally invested I was in the world and the characters. Seeing all if it instantly and abruptly come to an end despite all my efforts over the games, puts me on the brink of crying.
Seems silly , but man, thinking that after all that , all the characters and stories that get cut short right as they start to resolve. I feel so terrible about this , I wish I hadn't played mass effect at all. Emotionally draining.
I would normally never say this, but to get an option to get an ending that doesn't make me wish I had never picked up the game. I would pay nearly any price for a patch or DLC that fixed this. For no other series would I do this.

I know what you mean. I feel so depressed right now. This is absurd.

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Xellith wrote...

J555 you have to change your signature colour to make it stand out more ;) Its an eyesore of a colour but least people see it better I guess.


Hey I like my purple! :) Its better than the red! The darker purples blend too much into the background. The greens and blues have to be just as bright to stand out against the forum's color. My purple=awesome :P


@Bluumberry  What the hell? I thought people could save the game after the discussions there. Whhaatt? Well point is, I am going to save the game before the ending so I don't have to experience that bull.

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 I went into ME3 expecting a disappointing ending, and by disappointing I mean sad, not let down. A true happy ending was pretty much out of the question, I figured. Seeing the Reapers have Earth for all intents and purposes destroyed in the first ten minutes made me think, "uh oh." Seeing the husk-eyed Cerberus troops made me think, "this will not end well."  Seeing the end of the Shroud tower/genophage cure made me realize that the bottom was completely out of the tub - no happy endings here. Seeing the endings made me think I was watching Battlestar Galactica again. I could have handled a devastating ending, an everyone dies ending, even a Shepard dies to save everyone else ending, but the vague ending(s) we got just didn't do anything for me. Like I said, replace Higher Being Citadel Kid with Higher Being Starbuck, and you get a game series that started with the high ideals of Babylon 5 and ended with the limp slap of BSG.

They've scattered species turian, asari and batarian
I am the very model of a discouraged Mass Effect fan.

:crying:


Another VERY disappointed fan here. I loved ME1 & 2 to death (I played a 100% paragon FemShep from the start and had Liara as the (only) LI ever.) But, my experience, or what I got from it, was a bit different. Especially the Shourd/Genophage cure. (I still cry at "I would've like to analyze the seashells.") Because that specifially left me thinking that everything WILL be alright at the end. The Krogan are saved (and Eve will probably keep Wrex on a leash). Even the Rachni are helping. I got everything possible to be my allies. The Quarians and Geth are "best friends" and Everyone was on our side. A Galaxy United. I did Everything Right™.

And what did I got from that achievement? Three games and eight years of Making Everything Work, and what did I got? 

A kick in the nuts.

I really WAS expecting a "happy" ending. After making through the "Suicide Mission" with EVERYONE alive, I *really* though ME3 could end in a non-sucky way. (And really, *really* after the "one ship could easily be lost" -dialogue between Shep and Liara.) I *really* was hoping SOME ending that didn't communicate "you just wasted ~ 200 hours and 8 years of emotions on this game, because nothing you did really mattered. The ending is almost identical NO MATTER what you did in previous games. LIs - don't matter. Save the Collector Base, or Destroy it - doesn't matter. (Actually, this is really laughable. The collector base not really making any difference what so ever is effectively turning ME2 into garbage, as long as the outcome is concerned. NOTHING you do on ME2 has any significant meaning on the end result of ME3. Not that ME1 choice matter either.) Save the races or pee on their eyes - doesn't matter.

I actually cried at the ending. Not because the story's ending having an emotional effect, but because the rail-road ending with NO say in the outcome (and 1 & 2 meaning nothing) effectively killed Mass Effect for me. A story I had loved for eight years. The non-closure kick-in-the-nuts endings really killed ME for me, probably for good. I can't play anymore. I feel deceived, betrayed. Everything I did in ME1 and ME2 and largerly in ME3 couldn't have prepared me for what the ending had in store. 

Previously I could affect the story with decision, make Paragon choices and have everything turn out, if not fine, then not-sucking. 

Then, at the real end, everything that I had grown accustomed to in the universe was taken away. Nothing I did mattered. The difference between the "worst" and the "best" outcome is negated with ~2 hours of multiplayer. (having more war assets.) That's really it. Saving the Rachni Race in ME1 and again in ME3 - what did it matter? a two-digit number in a list of assets, no greater than 5% of the total. Easily done in an hour of mp. 

Monumental decisions and emotional choices... Reduced to raw numbers that equal a few moments of multiplayer gameplay... 

I.. I don't want to hear about Mass Effect. Ever again.

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I do have to say it is somewhat cathartic to come on here and see so many other people's reactions resonate with the feelings I experienced. Unfortunate, yes, but cathartic.

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PsychoticPenguin wrote...

I do have to say it is somewhat cathartic to come on here and see so many other people's reactions resonate with the feelings I experienced. Unfortunate, yes, but cathartic.


I agree whole heartedly. My family has listened to me complain all day (so nice of them) but it's comforting to see other fans feel the same way. 

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PsychoticPenguin wrote...

I do have to say it is somewhat cathartic to come on here and see so many other people's reactions resonate with the feelings I experienced. Unfortunate, yes, but cathartic.


Exactly. It helps a little but it still doesn't change the problem.

You gotta feel for the fans that don't know about BSN or any other place to vent about the endings. I imagine it would be worse to have no one else to discuss this crap with....:unsure::? Hopefully they rage, come on the internet and find us. Then add their voice to the discussion:)

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People4Peace wrote...

PsychoticPenguin wrote...

I do have to say it is somewhat cathartic to come on here and see so many other people's reactions resonate with the feelings I experienced. Unfortunate, yes, but cathartic.


Exactly. It helps a little but it still doesn't change the problem.

You gotta feel for the fans that don't know about BSN or any other place to vent about the endings. I imagine it would be worse to have no one else to discuss this crap with....:unsure::? Hopefully they rage, come on the internet and find us. Then add their voice to the discussion:)


It's starting to become a pattern. Someone comes on here after just beating the game, and then says that they want ti changed too. Either that or they come on here and say they love the game but won't judge the end until they beat it. Then when they do beat it, they are utterly disappointed. I've seen people angry on other forums too, so I would be surprised if Bioware didn't do something.

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J5550123 wrote...

People4Peace wrote...

PsychoticPenguin wrote...

I do have to say it is somewhat cathartic to come on here and see so many other people's reactions resonate with the feelings I experienced. Unfortunate, yes, but cathartic.


Exactly. It helps a little but it still doesn't change the problem.

You gotta feel for the fans that don't know about BSN or any other place to vent about the endings. I imagine it would be worse to have no one else to discuss this crap with....:unsure::? Hopefully they rage, come on the internet and find us. Then add their voice to the discussion:)


It's starting to become a pattern. Someone comes on here after just beating the game, and then says that they want ti changed too. Either that or they come on here and say they love the game but won't judge the end until they beat it. Then when they do beat it, they are utterly disappointed. I've seen people angry on other forums too, so I would be surprised if Bioware didn't do something.

Its true... everyone is coming on saying "Why did I get the bad ending" and we gotta tell em....ummm.... it wasnt lol

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Just... why would bioware do this? Did they really think this is the way to defeat the reapers? Did they not think maybe the possibility of a happy ending should be there? I just can't believe it. I am never obsessed with games except this. they made is invested. They knew we would react this way how couldn't they? Did they really think the majority of us would like this ending ?

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I doubt bioware will do anything. They already have our money. I have hope but I'm not holding my breath.

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Bioware should address these concerns.. the ending is horrible! id prefer the sopranos fade to black! lol

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Why wouldn't they give us DLC to rectify the endings? We are the fanbase and they need us for feedback. If they don't fix it, then I believe it could have dire consequences on any of their future titles.

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Xellith wrote...

I doubt bioware will do anything. They already have our money. I have hope but I'm not holding my breath.



I don't think we are going to get an answer as the people at Bioware is in stasis.. they'll come out when the cow needs milking lol

Modifié par Mercenar1ee, 09 mars 2012 - 12:08 .


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The part of me that is in denial is holding out for this being some kind of bug. It just seems bizarre that Casey Hudson would be recently spouting off how players will get a satisfying ending that is a result of their actions and then we 16 endings that basically railroad us to pretty much the same outcome.

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Honestly, I would rather Harbinger just kill shepard near the end and the reapers win.

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I still hope, that Bioware will maybe release a "Good Ending" or even "Perfect Ending" DLC (or...Patch?). Sure, they wanted to put the Mass Effect Franchise to rest, but...yea, you all know what I mean.

Where I thought about what the old guy at the end of the credits says... (any idea who might that be?)

Kid: Can you tell me another Story about the Shepard?
Old Man: It is getting late, but okay, one last story.

Hint to another Mass Effect game? I mean...another Story about Shepard? Either this will just stand there as it is or there might be another Mass Effect Game. I mean...Hello EA and Bioware? Mass Effect is, in my opinion, next to Star Wars, the best Franchise ever and you can still get a lot out of it (in money terms as well). Look at Halo, for example. Halo was only planned to have 3 games, now there's ODST, Wars and Reach and Halo 4 being worked on by 343 Industries (who also made Halo: Anniversary Edition). Also look at Half-Life. Half-Life 1 blew a lot of people away (in a good way) and Valve worked on HL2, EP1 and EP2. Another Half-Life is being worked on.

Now you could go the long run, scare ME fans away (maybe) and create a MMO like SWTOR. I might even play it, since SWTOR is a lot of fun for me.

Anyway, I drifted away. I don't want to see Shepard go, nor for his remaining Crew from ME1 and ME2, where for me only people from the ME2 Crew died (Mordin, Thane and Legion).

EDI, in fact, was surprisingly well thought-out in my opinion. An AI, which got free from any restrains and restrictions and started to turn human. This was so awesome (and EDI, even if "it" is a Robot, looked hot lol).

There will most likely be DLC again for ME3, which can be played while starting a New Game/New Game+ and/or after finishing the game and getting back to the Pre-Ceberus Attack Phase (Point of No Return). Otherwise the mentions of DLCs would be useless and misleading.

Let's see, what Bioware has in Store for us.

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Come on, Bioware. This is complete and utter BS they pulled with these endings. I invested years of my like of playing the ME games. I beat ME1 6 times and ME 2 29 freaking times. I bonded with the squad mates and felt like Shepard the entire time...but now everything just seems so pointless. Like I did all of this for nothing. Risked my life to save the galaxy only to get my ass handed to me in the end without any explanation whatsoever. I'm so disappointed, it's depressing. There had better be a DLC to fix this.

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I personally loved the concept of the synthesis - what I didn't love is that Shepard couldn't survive it and the Normandy running off (them leaving the Sol system doesn't even make sense, and why is Garrus on the ship when he was with me?). It would be a great ending for me if the Normandy had landed on Earth, and instead of walking off sadly, Garrus ran and pulled Shepard out of rubble, alive, and there is some more... conclusion to it, a better ending scene than that "stargazer" crap. I think it was a great neutral decision.

I also think the other two should be kept, probably with modifications, as well.

However, the reapers winning and a future civilization finding a VI of say, Liara or something, should have been an included ending (similar to the cutscene in that Alistair the only warden DLC in DA:O before that). And another ending should have been available that was far more paragon and could have saved the mass relays and been a true hero's win. Besides the reapers win option, all the other options should require say resources or a strong LI / friendship relationship and allow Shepard to live through all of them.

And no Normandy landing on some random ****** ant planet. That had too many flaws, and while beautiful in scenery, come on... really? That's dooming them.

Loved the Joker/EDI scene at the end, though. That can be kept... haha.

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