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revaew wrote...

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I'd prefer actual cutscenes that show Shepard reuniting with his love interest and his crew.



this^^^ i want to run around a park with my blue young'ns as Liara watches from a park bench


Exactly. A warm-hearted ending for a trilogy so full of death and loss and destruction would be perfect.



we are on the same page. an ending that makes me feel like the last 4 years of constant loss and death of those I love/carefor and the utter destruction of everything i've known was, in the end, worth the heart ache and all of the trouble that it required to save it....that would be fitting in my book


Amen to that. The game had plenty of sacrifice and loss and made me feel sad that some of the crew died, but in the end if it had all been worth it and Shepard had gotten married and had kids and retired; it would explain why this is Shepard's last game and yet leave fans feeling happy and satisifed. But instead we got these endings and most of us feel depressed, and sad, angry and stressed about it. All we're asking for is for Bioware to give us the happy ending we deserve. I don't think that's asking too much after all the time and money we spent on their Mass Effect Trilogy. I'm sure most of you would agree.

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Most people actually like 95% of your game Bioware, it's just that the final 5% sucks donkey ballz and ruins the experience/and the game for everyone.

I finished the game with tali once and don't even want to replay it with Liara now because everything doesn't matter in the end, everyone dies. THE END.

So jeah give us extra or alternate endings will you, all your fans are asking for it. Make it happen

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Although, I should say, the current endings have their merit. the whole idea that, while it cost us everything, the reapers are defeated. the next cycle can begin and will never have to worry about the reapers again, in retrospect is kind of an epic idea. we as a galactic civilization sacrificed ourselves so that future civilizations could prosper without fear is awesome....

but its only awesome if it were the result of everything I had done though out these 3 games. If that was one of the outcomes for not fully getting enough EMS, then so be it. make me work harder for a better outcome on my next play-through. what gets me the most is that everything i have worked for is tossed out. the endings, as they are now, cannot be epic because my decisions ( cure this/kill them/ sacrifice these) didn't make one iota of difference.

I want to be able to work harder for a better ending to what I want the end to be....

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I knew Shepard was going to die... this was the end of his/her story arc. However, this really was a poor way of doing it. I'll admit, the 3 choices had me thinking a lot, but when I made my decision, a collective WTF gathered in my brain.

Why was there no final showdown with Harbinger? In fact, why was Harbinger completely ignored throughout the entire game until the end, when the ole "get soooo close to death" cliche shows up? Making Harbinger a clearer foil to Shepard would have made the game better IMO, and making him the final enemy somehow (perhaps like Saren was with Sovereign in ME1). I expected an epic show down, with Shepard leaping into Harbinger to destroy it from within killing all the Reapers along with him (or something like that).

Instead, we get the oft refereed to "screwed either way" ending no matter what. Supremely disappointed with that... epically after all the build up ME1 and ME2 had... never thought I'd say this at all, but I just don't see the point in playing this game again, and I hate to say it. I really F'ing hate it.

This ending makes Shepard's sacrifice seem so small, and to top it off, 99.6% of all of the characters we have gotten to know and love over the years with this series... well, nobody knwos what happens. Did the fleets survive? What about the rest of your squad on Earth? Far too many holes left in this story, a story I expected Bioware to hit out of the park, only to swing and miss horribly when it counted the most... dammit, just disappointed as hell with this. Hope they can rectify it somehow.

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Caelistas wrote...

Most people actually like 95% of your game Bioware, it's just that the final 5% sucks donkey ballz and ruins the experience/and the game for everyone.

I finished the game with tali once and don't even want to replay it with Liara now because everything doesn't matter in the end, everyone dies. THE END.

So jeah give us extra or alternate endings will you, all your fans are asking for it. Make it happen

THIS. I absolutely loved the game until the end. Unfortunately, I hated it so much, that it overshadowed the love I had felt for the rest of it.

I played ME1 and 2 more times than I can count, but this only gets one playthrough from me. So much for being replayable, Casey Hudson.

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Levvi wrote...

Caelistas wrote...

Most people actually like 95% of your game Bioware, it's just that the final 5% sucks donkey ballz and ruins the experience/and the game for everyone.

I finished the game with tali once and don't even want to replay it with Liara now because everything doesn't matter in the end, everyone dies. THE END.

So jeah give us extra or alternate endings will you, all your fans are asking for it. Make it happen

THIS. I absolutely loved the game until the end. Unfortunately, I hated it so much, that it overshadowed the love I had felt for the rest of it.

I played ME1 and 2 more times than I can count, but this only gets one playthrough from me. So much for being replayable, Casey Hudson.


just last night, my fiance came home and was like "wtf you are still playing that game?" and i was like "yeah. i cant get enough. this game is a serious contender to be one of my top games."

I then stayed up late, got like 3 hours of sleep and got up early to do the final assault. the assault to take back earth wwas so poignant that it was almost unreal. I had never felt a game attatch so emotionally before. as I was riding up to get the catalyst, my heart was racing. asking ymself "how is this going to end? did I make the right decisions?" seriously doubting everything and every decision i had made, as i limped my way through the once awe-inspiring citadel. then i met the ghost boy.....


its now safe to assume that the game is no longer in contention for one of my all time favorites. I was going to replay the whole trilogy, but now i cant even think about doing that. one of the best trilogies->one of the best games i have ever played, liketerally ruined in the last 1%

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Does anyone else have an issue with the after credits scene too? I mean, the voice acting is HORRIBLE! My class of first graders can read with more expression than that. And the majority of them all suck at reading. That was a huge mess up to me. And I really didn't understand the point of that particular scene. So if anyone knows/has idea please enlighten me

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TaylorC183 wrote...

Does anyone else have an issue with the after credits scene too? I mean, the voice acting is HORRIBLE! My class of first graders can read with more expression than that. And the majority of them all suck at reading. That was a huge mess up to me. And I really didn't understand the point of that particular scene. So if anyone knows/has idea please enlighten me

Are you talking about the grandpa?

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It's amazing how many people want a new ending. This poll is growing fast.

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

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I loved the game, I cried when Mordin, Thane, Legion, Miranda died.... but WTF?

How is that everyone ends in PANDORA?
My Shep is dead... what kind of replay value do you want to give me with that... oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?

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mauro2222 wrote...

I loved the game, I cried when Mordin, Thane, Legion, Miranda died.... but WTF?

How is that everyone ends in PANDORA?
My Shep is dead... what kind of replay value do you want to give me with that... oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?

Your Miranda died?
I wasn't even aware this could happen.

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I'd like to put in my three cents about the endings. First off, I would like to say, I loved the game, probably the best in the series in my opinion (kudos Bioware for that)...with the exception of the last 15 minutes. Extremely EXTREMELY, disappointing. I read a lot of the spoilers and sort of was expecting what was coming, though I still foolishly held hope that if I did everything right (100 percent readiness, all war assets, etc etc) Bioware would reward me with a 'good' ending. In my mind, that would involve Shepard and at least some of his crew alive, TOGETHER, especially the love interest. Not saying their environment would be all peachy but at least some hope for survival together and happy would be nice. And if people want a cliched happy ending where everyone lives and Normandy lands heroically in the ashes of Earth so everyone can get medals, that's fine too, I never understand why some people don't like those...yeah, maybe not entirely realistic, but its a video game. And for those of you who like the endings...they can keep them, and maybe add an ending where the reapers win...but I think It's nice for things to work out, everyone knows they don't in real life. In any case, I, nor any of you got that from the ME3 endings.

Its hard to say what irritated me most but I think it was the reduction of everything you had done in the previous 2 games plus the third into 3 choices. We were told all our decisions would make a difference...and I suppose they did to a certain extent...but for all intensive purposes the endings were the same with minute variation. And worse, they posed more questions than gave answers. 'What happened to Shepard?' Yeah the breathing **** at the end of the 'good' destroy ending doesn't count. 'Does the Normandy now have teleporters?' (must, since your team from Earth all got back there) Sure would've come in handy earlier instead of taking the damn shuttle all the time. 'Why the hell was the Normandy in FTL and crashing on some stupid planet?.' I mean really, did Bioware just make it this way so they could make DLC? I mean, who in their right mind thinks this is a good way to wrap up the franchise? I could understand if it was a movie and it was their artistic blah blah, but they've always told us (and delivered) about how our opinions mattered and in game we had choice. Did the play testers think this was ok? It seems like a lot of what we did in the game didn't matter. I'm sure I'm just beating a dead horse here, I've read a lot of what you all said and from a lot of you it was very similar. I just wanted to vent and add my feelings to Bioware's collection of tears. I just hope they realize the mistake they've made and do something to rectify it. New Ending(s) DLC would be nice...but I'm not sure if that'll ever happen. I'm hoping they will and soon because as of right now, the re-playability is rather limited...at least for me. In any case thanks for reading.

As a side note: Any word on the 'surprise New Game plus ending'?

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FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

TaylorC183 wrote...

Does anyone else have an issue with the after credits scene too? I mean, the voice acting is HORRIBLE! My class of first graders can read with more expression than that. And the majority of them all suck at reading. That was a huge mess up to me. And I really didn't understand the point of that particular scene. So if anyone knows/has idea please enlighten me

Are you talking about the grandpa?


yeah. Like what was the point? Its poorly done.

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mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

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I still don't understand how they wrote it though.

This makes no sense. "I can not let the synthetics kill you, so I commit mass genocide every few thousand years instead, and I'm an AI!"

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Deltoran wrote...

*epic snip*

As a side note: Any word on the 'surprise New Game plus ending'?

I am tempted to go through it again on insanity just to see if anything is different, but my motivation right now is through the floor.

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FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

I loved the game, I cried when Mordin, Thane, Legion, Miranda died.... but WTF?

How is that everyone ends in PANDORA?
My Shep is dead... what kind of replay value do you want to give me with that... oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?

Your Miranda died?
I wasn't even aware this could happen.


I don't know what I did wrong then. She knew of Kai Leng and all.

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revaew wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

I'd say it is worth it. The Shadow Broker DLC was incredible.

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FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

revaew wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

I'd say it is worth it. The Shadow Broker DLC was incredible.


i want to but at the same time, the series has kinda lost its luster....

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revaew wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

revaew wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

I'd say it is worth it. The Shadow Broker DLC was incredible.


i want to but at the same time, the series has kinda lost its luster....


The Shadow Broker DLC is still worth it! Play it and just pretend the end of 3 never happened that way the dlc is still satisfying. It seems like that's going to be the only way to fix this: forget it happened (apart from dlc endings naturally). It's still such a pity, especially since the other 99% of the game was near perfect.

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gbanas92 wrote...

revaew wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

revaew wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

I'd say it is worth it. The Shadow Broker DLC was incredible.


i want to but at the same time, the series has kinda lost its luster....


The Shadow Broker DLC is still worth it! Play it and just pretend the end of 3 never happened that way the dlc is still satisfying. It seems like that's going to be the only way to fix this: forget it happened (apart from dlc endings naturally). It's still such a pity, especially since the other 99% of the game was near perfect.


Don't give up, they may fix the endings.

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I still have hope they will release an additional ending DLC...

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J5550123 wrote...

gbanas92 wrote...

revaew wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

revaew wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

I'd say it is worth it. The Shadow Broker DLC was incredible.


i want to but at the same time, the series has kinda lost its luster....


The Shadow Broker DLC is still worth it! Play it and just pretend the end of 3 never happened that way the dlc is still satisfying. It seems like that's going to be the only way to fix this: forget it happened (apart from dlc endings naturally). It's still such a pity, especially since the other 99% of the game was near perfect.


Don't give up, they may fix the endings.


I'm hopeful, but doubtful all at the same time. Fallout 3 (A la Broken Steel) is the only good example I've seen of someone fixing a bad ending. But I mean, if Bethesda pulled it off, why not Bioware?! I've always loved Bioware. I hope they have something up their sleeve!

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gbanas92 wrote...

revaew wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

revaew wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

I'd say it is worth it. The Shadow Broker DLC was incredible.


i want to but at the same time, the series has kinda lost its luster....


The Shadow Broker DLC is still worth it! Play it and just pretend the end of 3 never happened that way the dlc is still satisfying. It seems like that's going to be the only way to fix this: forget it happened (apart from dlc endings naturally). It's still such a pity, especially since the other 99% of the game was near perfect.


If the average playtime was in to 20 - 30h range....and the last 5min of cut scenes was the awful bit, its actually less than 0.5%

It baffles me how they managed to stain the near-perfect game with such an ending. I was riding a emotional and adrenaline high...and once the weapon fired and 'Those' cut scenes started...just wow.

Release a patch that fades to black @ Shepard and Anderson looking at Earth...save new players the torment!
That would be instantly better than what they ended us with.

Modifié par Flammenpanzer, 09 mars 2012 - 08:34 .


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Flammenpanzer wrote...

gbanas92 wrote...

revaew wrote...

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

revaew wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

oh yeah, explore the romances, for what?


after interacting with Liara in ME3, i was really tempted to go buy the shadow broker DLC for ME2. I really wanted to grow the romance/explore it more....but now, I don't see a point....

I'd say it is worth it. The Shadow Broker DLC was incredible.


i want to but at the same time, the series has kinda lost its luster....


The Shadow Broker DLC is still worth it! Play it and just pretend the end of 3 never happened that way the dlc is still satisfying. It seems like that's going to be the only way to fix this: forget it happened (apart from dlc endings naturally). It's still such a pity, especially since the other 99% of the game was near perfect.


If the average playtime was in to 20 - 30h range....and the last 5min of cut scenes was the awful bit, its actually less than 0.5%

It baffles me how they managed to stain the near-perfect game with such an ending. I was riding a emotional and adrenaline high...and once the weapon fired and 'Those' cut scenes started...just wow.




True, it is less than 1%, but for me at least (and many others based on the comments in this thread) that 0.5% ruined the entire trilogy for many people, making their decisions and romances irrelevant, and throwing nonsensical cutscenes at the player and concluding what was poised to be one of the best science fictions stories ever told in a manner that disgruntled nearly everyone that played it, it seems.