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[mulder1199]

laughing sherpa girl wrote...

Militarized wrote...

They should have made the last fight more interactive, they should have followed the success of ME2 and just ****ing repeated that style. Like if Jack is artillery or shielding people, could have had that effect the fight...

Why am I bothering, it's not getting fixed. I think I'm coming to the acceptance stage of my grief and am just not gonna support Bioware anymore.

No, they're listening, reading, they're here, now. Please say your piece. it matters and counts.

gotta make yourself heard....if you truly are giving up, at least shoot EA/bioware a last email letting them know you won't be buying their products anymore....

[wook77]

Someone was watching way too much "Let's Make a Deal" because the child!god is totally Monty Hall asking Shepard to pick a door. Monty Hall Wannabe totally knows that there's only a donkey, a dollar bill and a zonk behind each of the doors. There is no car, even though he lured you into picking one of the doors with the promise of a car.

At least with "Let's Make a Deal", you get funny costumes in the audience and silly pranks. In this one, you only get the death and destruction of the audience members.

I really hope, now that Bioware seems to be listening, that they give us some sort of happy. The ending for DA2 wasn't all that happy but at least you had a choice in the matter. Same with KOTOR, Jade Empire and DA:O.

And, no, I'm not willing to pay for it. I already paid for the game once. I would, though, pay for extra DLC based on the new ending and expanding from there, ie rebuilding Earth, etc. I've bought every DLC for DA/DA2 so far (yes, even those weapons packs) and I don't see that changing if they get me a happy-ish ending. Even if the relays are still destroyed, I'd love to see Liara or Sanders or someone rebuilding them. I'd play the crap outta that DLC.

[leianajade]

I'm not saying that *all* of the endings have to be good, or even remotely positive.

But one - ONE ending where we could feel super heroic, feel good about all of the countless hours we put in and the decisions we made - that's all I wanted.

In a game with all these decisions, I don't like feeling so *forced* into these endings. Rather than letting us make a decision, they went with being depressing just for the sake of being depressing. I have a real problem with that. It's bad writing, at best.

I get really engrossed in the games. I'm a gamer who loves the story, and the characters, and bioware has always done really well at both for me. I've replayed KOTOR more times than I can count, and the first two ME games are getting up there too, considering that I've had both for less than a year.

Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic, engrossing, wonderful game, I think. It has to be one of my favorite experiences of all time...except for the endings. Again, I don't deny that there *should* be horrible, sad, tragic endings, but I wanted one where I got my happily ever after, and I was prepared to work for it.

IMO, why not make Shepard the beacon of hope for the galaxy? After all (s)he's done trying to get people to listen, why not let Shep have that? The galaxy united, species helping each other rebuild - Shepard at the forefront for a while, then slipping away to go on smaller, yet still grand adventures with their LI.

I don't know whether bioware will listen, but count my voice in as really wanting alternate ending DLC. As is, I see no point in any other DLC, so if money talks and they want more of mine, this is how they'll get it. No "extra stories! extra characters! multiplayer levels!" will matter if in the end, everything I care about dies. I'm glad that I can save the galaxy (to some extent), but that's not what the first two games really made me care about. I spent time with the characters. Those are where my emotional investment is, and why I'm so devastated with the endings.

[mulder1199]

leianajade wrote...

I'm not saying that *all* of the endings have to be good, or even remotely positive.

But one - ONE ending where we could feel super heroic, feel good about all of the countless hours we put in and the decisions we made - that's all I wanted.

In a game with all these decisions, I don't like feeling so *forced* into these endings. Rather than letting us make a decision, they went with being depressing just for the sake of being depressing. I have a real problem with that. It's bad writing, at best.

I get really engrossed in the games. I'm a gamer who loves the story, and the characters, and bioware has always done really well at both for me. I've replayed KOTOR more times than I can count, and the first two ME games are getting up there too, considering that I've had both for less than a year.

Mass Effect 3 is a fantastic, engrossing, wonderful game, I think. It has to be one of my favorite experiences of all time...except for the endings. Again, I don't deny that there *should* be horrible, sad, tragic endings, but I wanted one where I got my happily ever after, and I was prepared to work for it.

IMO, why not make Shepard the beacon of hope for the galaxy? After all (s)he's done trying to get people to listen, why not let Shep have that? The galaxy united, species helping each other rebuild - Shepard at the forefront for a while, then slipping away to go on smaller, yet still grand adventures with their LI.

I don't know whether bioware will listen, but count my voice in as really wanting alternate ending DLC. As is, I see no point in any other DLC, so if money talks and they want more of mine, this is how they'll get it. No "extra stories! extra characters! multiplayer levels!" will matter if in the end, everything I care about dies. I'm glad that I can save the galaxy (to some extent), but that's not what the first two games really made me care about. I spent time with the characters. Those are where my emotional investment is, and why I'm so devastated with the endings.

exactly, i don't even need a 'happy ending' just a decent one.....they'll get no more of my money until this is resolved...ea or bioware....

[10K]

WarBaby2 wrote...

What I did not like... and I am totally unable to comprehend... is what happened to Sheps crew/the Normandy. It made NO sense whatsoever... from a storytelling point of view.

This so much. The end came and the earth was saved then it was...Zap jungle time. I mean wtf.

Modifié par mosesarose, 09 mars 2012 - 04:21 .

[MacAttack]

Every ending was stupid. I loved the game besides the ending.

[Militarized]

The only way I can comprehend the jungle scene, is that it is Shepard imagining it. Joker is running from the inevitable doom that we MUST choose and Shepard is imagining that depending on his choice, they may still have a glimmer of hope of rebuilding.

But it's total bull ****, I could see rebuilding the galaxy if the Reapers were defeated even after so much death because it is stated they are going after the industrial areas and cities, not the rural areas. Or just plain losing... but these choices are just a horrible rip off of Deus Ex. Did they contract the ending out?

[MacAttack]

maybe i missed something when i was playing but why the heck did the normandy fly away from Earth? Joker and the crew just up and left shep and the rest of the fleet.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

MacAttack wrote...

maybe i missed something when i was playing but why the heck did the normandy fly away from Earth? Joker and the crew just up and left shep and the rest of the fleet.

Nobody knows; that's just another one of the problems we all have with the ending.

[AgamenonAtreides]

I dont know what happen but the prothean javik was with me in the final battle and he died (i assume) when the reaper shut us with before arriving to the last part of the mission... and in the video of the 2 of 3 ends he appears leaving from the fking normandy... how the hell can be that? teleport?


I passed the end game 3 times xD

[ViperAlvein]

Ah the joy I felt in anticipation of ME3. I waited with anticipation, smashed through a new full clear walkthrough in the week and a half leading up to it. Then... release day, i spot this horrible thread that tells me the endings are horrible... Naturally... curiousity, as it usually does gets the better of me. So I check it out. At first, I'm skeptical, am I being trolled? No, I see the videos. The endings, ruined. Despite this, I take a deep breath and forge on, start my game and to my frustration, I can't import my characters face. So after a butt ton of math, ((i used the crazy method, but successfully rebuilt my Shep and then the game began.

I kept going, but always that nagging thought at the back of my head. The game has a s***ty ending. Despite that I still forged on, right until half an hour ago, where I reached Earth, spoke to my squad, did the heroic speech and entered the lead up to the finale. It was this point where everything I'd heard, that nagging voice, snapped and I couldn't continue. Being quite an avid roleplayer, I get invested in my characters. I fell in love with all the characters, the story the galaxy. seeing everything I'd done in the previous games come to fruition in this game made it even worse, knowing that in the end it means nothing. I love the Mass Effect Series, and I will probably never finish 3, at least until I know I can get an ending that offers some closure. IMO, Shep busted his backside off for the Galaxy, he either deserves a heroes sendoff, fireworks and a farewell with some Eulogy by LI or someone close to Shep saying thanks, or a heroes parade. Fireworks, LI at side and the galaxy throwing one hell of a party before the clean up.

Modifié par ViperAlvein, 09 mars 2012 - 04:54 .

[10K]

MacAttack wrote...

maybe i missed something when i was playing but why the heck did the normandy fly away from Earth? Joker and the crew just up and left shep and the rest of the fleet.

What I can gather, nobody knows. And this isn't the worst of it. Tell me why I brought garrus with me at the end, but then some how he popped onto the normandy, stranded with everyone else?

[MacAttack]

mosesarose wrote...

MacAttack wrote...

maybe i missed something when i was playing but why the heck did the normandy fly away from Earth? Joker and the crew just up and left shep and the rest of the fleet.

What I can gather, nobody knows. And this isn't the worst of it. Tell me why I brought garrus with me at the end, but then some how he popped onto the normandy, stranded with everyone else?

I noticed that too when i was playing.

[Aisynia]

This game was an amazing emotional rollercoaster. I was completely blown away by how well written it was.. until I met the catalyst.

Contrived, hackneyed, tired, and kills any chance at closure.

When you're writing a book, fine, you are completely within your rights to push a downer ending to enhance the effect you were going for.. but in a game? Where choice is supposed to factor in to everything we do.. where you spend so much time getting us personally invested in the idea that, "yes, we CAN do this"..

Just wow.

Mass Effect 3, minus the ending, was the most emotionally engrossing game I have ever played.

The ending was the most offensive ending I've ever played - in large part due to the fact it tramples all over itself, all over the entire trilogy, and all over the countless hours we have poured into this.

This does not compute. BioWare, you trampled on our characters, you dimninished their actions, you destroyed everything we gave a damn about, apparently just to do it.

Why would I want to put much more time into this when I know that no matter what I do, when I get to the end, I will once again be forced into a hackneyed "pick a door" mechanic for one of three offensively badly written endings?

You are much better than this. Please fix it.

Modifié par Aisynia, 09 mars 2012 - 04:39 .

[themaxzero]

Aisynia wrote...

This game was an amazing emotional rollercoaster. I was completely blown away by how well written it was.. until I met the catalyst.

Contrived, hackneyed, tired, and kills any chance at closure.

When you're writing a book, fine, you are completely within your rights to push a downer ending to enhance the effect you were going for.. but in a game? Where choice is supposed to factor in to everything we do.. where you spend so much time getting us personally invested in the idea that, "yes, we CAN do this"..

Just wow.

Mass Effect 3, minus the ending, was the most emotionally engrossing game I have ever played.

The ending was the most offensive ending I've ever played - in large part due to the fact it tramples all over itself, all over the entire trilogy, and all over the countless hours we have poured into this.

This does not compute. BioWare, you trampled on our characters, you dimninished their actions, you destroyed everything we gave a damn about, apparently just to do it.

Why would I want to put much more time into this when I know that no matter what I do, when I get to the end, I will once again be forced into a hackneyed "pick a door" mechanic for one of three offensively badly written endings?

You are much better than this. Please fix it.

Another thing how the first two games have a heavy focus (especially in ME2) on character relationships.

Then you get the end of ME3 and they throw it all away.

It's weird.

[KeenBlade]

I have yet to beat the game. The last major decision I made was quarians vs geth, and I didn't think to save before that. With that being said, I couldn't establish peace even with my 6/7 points of the 5/7 point requirement for the option simply because I missed one of the 5 missions involved in the #/7 point requirement.

However, I think that from what I've read, the best ending IS something of the heroic sacrifice. Sure, you've doomed your cycle's civilizations to a slow death by inability to trade, but the next 'cycle' won't have any trouble or worry about galactic extinction.

With that having been said, though, I would like some DLC for a 'superior' good ending where you get to keep the normandy crew with you, except for maybe Edi and Joker.  I doubt joker would would leave his shiney new GF if she was sent on a suicide mission.

Modifié par KeenBlade, 09 mars 2012 - 04:53 .

[adneate]

mosesarose wrote...
What I can gather, nobody knows. And this isn't the worst of it. Tell me why I brought garrus with me at the end, but then some how he popped onto the normandy, stranded with everyone else?

Yeah he needed to help Joker pump gas for the Normandy. Honestly the Earth squaddies showing up on planet plot contrivance is for me the single most offensive thing in these abominations called endings. There is no logic behind them being on the Normandy again, they were on Earth there's a reaper fleet above they have no reason to go back on the Normandy. None.

It pretty much proves they made these endings just because and they didn't care about anything other than what was easiest for them and would allow them to bludgeon emotion out of the audience in the most crude and transparent way. It's literally like someone taking out a pistol and shooting your dog then going, "You're pretty sad aren't you?"

No I'm really angry.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

themaxzero wrote...

Aisynia wrote...

This game was an amazing emotional rollercoaster. I was completely blown away by how well written it was.. until I met the catalyst.

Contrived, hackneyed, tired, and kills any chance at closure.

When you're writing a book, fine, you are completely within your rights to push a downer ending to enhance the effect you were going for.. but in a game? Where choice is supposed to factor in to everything we do.. where you spend so much time getting us personally invested in the idea that, "yes, we CAN do this"..

Just wow.

Mass Effect 3, minus the ending, was the most emotionally engrossing game I have ever played.

The ending was the most offensive ending I've ever played - in large part due to the fact it tramples all over itself, all over the entire trilogy, and all over the countless hours we have poured into this.

This does not compute. BioWare, you trampled on our characters, you dimninished their actions, you destroyed everything we gave a damn about, apparently just to do it.

Why would I want to put much more time into this when I know that no matter what I do, when I get to the end, I will once again be forced into a hackneyed "pick a door" mechanic for one of three offensively badly written endings?

You are much better than this. Please fix it.

Another thing how the first two games have a heavy focus (especially in ME2) on character relationships.

Then you get the end of ME3 and they throw it all away.

It's weird.

Exactly; I always felt like Shepard was fighting for his/her friends and crew more than for the rest of the galaxy. You've spent three games getting to know these characters and developing an emotional bond with them. To just randomly maroon them on some mysterious planet at the end, giving no closure or explanation, just seems wrong.

[WarBaby2]

adneate wrote...
No I'm really angry.

I am not even that... neither I am sad... just puzzled.

As it stands now, BW would have done better with a few still images and text, dipicting the fate of all major people and civilisations...

[silencemayday]

this whole thread.
what was the point of half of the game looking at the endings anyway? yeah sure, we managed to bring the damn galaxy together- for what? no ****ing mass relays. for all we know it could continue the same way as before. would have loved for some clearing up on the fate of the galaxy. damn, just give me some fallout-esque text. not like that qould actually involve any effort, but it would've rounded off the whole thing. the crew stranded in the middle of nowhere? yeah, just /awesome/.

my english sucks way too bad to even begin to try to explain my current feelings. - i mean, the game itself was amazing, i loved the whole build up, even if some LI things bothered me. (i mean what the hell with jacob? i mean, not that i actually give a damn about him, but from what i've heard that was just ****ed up. and the whole thane thing? i was okay with him dying, but the whole hospital-scene was so.. cold when you actually romanced him. the tali picture? /awesome/.)

i wouldn't even have minded having shepard going out in a blaze of f*cking glory, but hell- that wasn't even 'really' the case.

oh wow, i actually get the chance to decide on the ****ing color of the mass realy explotion? nice. not that it actually changed much of the ending anyway.

now i'd pay for a dlc where i at least get to punch the writers in the face repeatedly.

****ing disappointing. just give us something here.

[Isis 524]

WarBaby2 wrote...

As it stands now, BW would have done better with a few still images and text, dipicting the fate of all major people and civilisations...

Even a few lines of dialogue like DA2 would have helped. Not much, but made it a little less painful.

[WarBaby2]

Isis 524 wrote...
Even a few lines of dialogue like DA2 would have helped. Not much, but made it a little less painful.

Which would have taken not as much time and affort as this... whatever it is.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

I know this is a depressing thought, but I just don't see BioWare getting the VAs back in and stuff to make a truly good ending. I will continue to fight in the futile war against BioW.... these monsters, though.
Although, they could just half-ass it and be WAY better than the three endings now.

[adneate]

WarBaby2 wrote...
I am not even that... neither I am sad... just puzzled.

As it stands now, BW would have done better with a few still images and text, dipicting the fate of all major people and civilisations...

Puzzled is another thing that racks my feelings, essentially BioWare has forgotten the golden rule about making a story centered around The Apocalypse, which is in order to not lose the audience at the end you have to have a good ending. Literally the rest of the story can be death, characters stuggling and dieing so long as you can put an ending where it seems like all the suffering the characters and by extension the audience went through was for something then literally everything is okay. If you end on a ambigious note where things seem kinda okay, sorta but most the characters are dead or just gone . . .

Well you get the reaction you're seeing now. People feel like all the suffering was for nothing because the characters got no release and by extension the audience has no release.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

I know this is a depressing thought, but I just don't see BioWare getting the VAs back in and stuff to make a truly good ending. I will continue to fight in the futile war against BioW.... these monsters, though.
Although, they could just half-ass it and be WAY better than the three endings now.

They brought back all the VAs for DA2 DLC. I still think that getting a proper ending is a longshot, but it's at least possible.