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[TaylorC183]

 Prima Guides state there is a secret ending for all players who play a second play through...has anyone tried this yet? Or seen a video online of what this ending might be?  I wanna know but I'm scared if I play through a whole nother time I'll get to the end and with bated breath wait for the secret ending and then BAM ... the mass relay light is purple! (bioware is like, "suprise!! didnt have that color last time!!)

<_<

[lucidfox]

XenoAlbedo wrote...

One question... How could he get Tali pregnant?

...Good point.

The pregnant thing should only happen if they're humans of different sexes. Or one of them is Liara.

[Bluumberry]

TaylorC183 wrote...

--with bated breath wait for the secret ending and then BAM ... the mass relay light is purple! (bioware is like, "suprise!! didnt have that color last time!!)

<_<

Thanks, needed a good laugh

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

TaylorC183 wrote...

 Prima Guides state there is a secret ending for all players who play a second play through...has anyone tried this yet? Or seen a video online of what this ending might be?  I wanna know but I'm scared if I play through a whole nother time I'll get to the end and with bated breath wait for the secret ending and then BAM ... the mass relay light is purple! (bioware is like, "suprise!! didnt have that color last time!!)

<_<

People have datamined the game. The "secret ending" is a lie.

[CrimsonNephilim]

AnttiV wrote...

Second, to put my "money" where my mouth is, how would *I* have done it. What would be, in my opinion, better endings to the epic tale:

Here goes, my take on what (approximately) the ME3 ending should've been / what would've made it (imo) better / suggestions.

Instead of the Three Choices™ that result in approx. same situation, there should've been FIVE choices.
(Paragon getting more detailing than others, since I almost exclusively play 100% Paragon)

1) Destroy (the "good" ending, but without enough reputation/Paragon).
2) Merge (I don't really have an opinion about this)
3) Control (the "renegade" ending, but without enough reputation/Renegade).
4) (in red, Max Renegade) Use Citadel/Crucible/Guardian as a combined weapon. (available only with Max Assets)
5) (in blue, Max Paragon) Shut down Guardian, repurpose VI and zap the reapers. (available only with Max Assets)

Case 1)
* Destroy the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* With low enough Assets, the resulting explosion destroys Normandy, we see it crashing down towards earth. Crew that Shepard had with him/her is dead.
* With adequate Assets, we see Normandy making an emergency landing on earth after getting hit by flying debris, some crew members might die, depending on rep or somesuch.
* With good Assests, We see Normandy landing on earth (some crew might still be dead), Crew that was with shepard alive, they (all together) give funeral to Shepard.
* Max Assests, we see Normandy landing and the crew that was with Shepard (plus LI if wasn't in the crew) digging Shep out of a rubble or something, Shep clearly alive.


Case 2)
* I don't really have an opinion, might be same as it is, but please no random Normandy FTL/Jump/Crash. Derive from Case 1, but with crew half synthetic. Shep might need to die in any case, but prefer if with Max assests we see Shep alive in the end.


Case 3)
* Take control of the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* Low assests, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Citadel/Relays, explosion kills almost everybody. Fleets, Normandy, Shep, Planets close to Relays.
* Adequate Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Relay network. Explosion kills fleets, shep, planets close to Relays. We see Normandy crash-land, someone walks out alive.
* Good Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, they destroy Relays. explosion kills most of the fleet and planets close to relats. we see Normandy making an emergency landing to earth, some of the crew alive, perhaps LI mourning Shep and holding a picture/piece of armor.
* Max Assets, Shep either commands the reapers to to leave, which leads to destruction of the Relays, or leaves his/her body behind and becomes one of the reapers and then commanding them to leave, perhaps destroying only the citadel. Normandy lands on earth and crew comes out. If Shep chose to stay, they dig Shep out of a rubble with LI leading the digging. If Shep turned into a reaper, crew and LI talking to a VI-like projection of Shep-Reaper who says she/he'll lead the Reapers into the Darkspace. For Now.


Case 4)
* Shep "kills" Guardian and reprograms/repurposes the thing and uses it as a weapon to target the Relay Network and destroy reapers.
* Willingly destroys Relays and dooms almost all other races to save Earth
* Planets near Relays destroyed, Alien fleets stranded on Sol, but resulting burst of energy from the combined weapon destroys almost every ship in the fleets
* we see Normandy landing on earth, crew walking out (depending on some factors, some of them may be dead).
* EDI & Geth destroyed in the burst, we see Joker mourning EDI, if he wasn't killed himself.
* Shep standing on some ruins together with LI, perhaps holding blueprints of a future city / FTL drive / mass relay.
* Life, for humans, will continue, other races crippled perhaps beyond salvation, Shep and LI alive.

Case 5)
* Shep makes Guardian shutdown/alter itself to be used as a blast to shutdown reapers.
* can't do everything there, need to hit switches / hack computers in different places of citadel. Perhaps with time limit (although I detest time limits).
* each switch/hack location is defended by reaper forces, depending on what choices Shep has made during the game(s), different things happen
- Saved Rachni: On one location, a group of Rachni Warriors join shep and help attack the reaper forces
- Have Turians on board: on the way to one location, Turian Dreadnoughts fire through cracks in citadel and destroy a large part of defending force.
- Really saved Krogan (told about sabotage): on the way to one location a group of Krogan blast through a wall and assault a large reaper force, allowing Shep to make a straighter and faster way towards the location, saving much time.
- Saved Quarians or Geth: At one location, Quarians/Geth launch an EMP attack from outside the citadel, disabling a large part of defending force.
- If both Geth AND Quarians saved: At above location, the force is Quarians. At another location, Geth drive a ship to the Citadel and upload themselves to some inactive guard robots onboard of Citadel and help Shep to dispose of the defenders.
* When all switching/hacking is finished, Shep goes (races to, perhaps, depending on how long the activities took) back to the "Guardian Console" and can use the device.
* Choice:
- either use the pulse to shut down the Relay network and the Reapers with raw power (and thus disabling Geth and EDI in the process). With power going down, the reapers use the relays to escape back to darkspace. Relays shut down one after the other as the fleeing reapers use the last of their power to keep themselves running and go away. For Now.
- Or, sacrifice most of humanity to draw power from Sun/Earth to boost the operating power of the device and allow greater finess of the system. Resulting pulse shuts down, immediately, every reaper across the galaxy. But as the power was more refined, EDI and the Geth can be saved. Relays shut down as the pulse works throught them, but it is hinted that they only need to be restarted for them to work again. With sufficient unified effort by the now saved galaxy, the relays could be up and running in a few years or somesuch.
* Earth is show desolate, with some population. Not quite unlike Tuchanka. Life goes on in the Galaxy and everywhere statues and memorials are raised to remember what sacrifice humans made for everyone else to continue living.
* Humans are not wiped out, colonies remain and even on earth there are still population, but it will take years and years for humans to rise up to the power they were.
* We see Normandy crew (not LI) standing on some large capital ship, perhaps with Hackett/Anderson, watching out into the deep space.
* We hear LI or Shep voice over "It would be so easy for one ship to just.. get lost in the stars."
* Cut to scene where Shep sits somewhere, watching the stars above. LI walks to Shep's side and puts a hand on his/her shoulder. Both turn to face downwards, looking at the tummy of whichever of them is female. (impying she's pregnant.)

That last paragon ending is really what I wanted/expected from the games. There is sooo much buildup to something like that, and then it all falls flat in the end. But, that's just my opinion. (although all the games have allowed MY opinion and MY choices, except the very end, which was a rail-road journey.) But, have at it, I just needed to get that out.

^ This. Thousand times this.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

AnttiV wrote...

Case 5)
* Shep makes Guardian shutdown/alter itself to be used as a blast to shutdown reapers.
* can't do everything there, need to hit switches / hack computers in different places of citadel. Perhaps with time limit (although I detest time limits).
* each switch/hack location is defended by reaper forces, depending on what choices Shep has made during the game(s), different things happen
- Saved Rachni: On one location, a group of Rachni Warriors join shep and help attack the reaper forces
- Have Turians on board: on the way to one location, Turian Dreadnoughts fire through cracks in citadel and destroy a large part of defending force.
- Really saved Krogan (told about sabotage): on the way to one location a group of Krogan blast through a wall and assault a large reaper force, allowing Shep to make a straighter and faster way towards the location, saving much time.
- Saved Quarians or Geth: At one location, Quarians/Geth launch an EMP attack from outside the citadel, disabling a large part of defending force.
- If both Geth AND Quarians saved: At above location, the force is Quarians. At another location, Geth drive a ship to the Citadel and upload themselves to some inactive guard robots onboard of Citadel and help Shep to dispose of the defenders.
* When all switching/hacking is finished, Shep goes (races to, perhaps, depending on how long the activities took) back to the "Guardian Console" and can use the device.
* Choice:
- either use the pulse to shut down the Relay network and the Reapers with raw power (and thus disabling Geth and EDI in the process). With power going down, the reapers use the relays to escape back to darkspace. Relays shut down one after the other as the fleeing reapers use the last of their power to keep themselves running and go away. For Now.
- Or, sacrifice most of humanity to draw power from Sun/Earth to boost the operating power of the device and allow greater finess of the system. Resulting pulse shuts down, immediately, every reaper across the galaxy. But as the power was more refined, EDI and the Geth can be saved. Relays shut down as the pulse works throught them, but it is hinted that they only need to be restarted for them to work again. With sufficient unified effort by the now saved galaxy, the relays could be up and running in a few years or somesuch.
* Earth is show desolate, with some population. Not quite unlike Tuchanka. Life goes on in the Galaxy and everywhere statues and memorials are raised to remember what sacrifice humans made for everyone else to continue living.
* Humans are not wiped out, colonies remain and even on earth there are still population, but it will take years and years for humans to rise up to the power they were.
* We see Normandy crew (not LI) standing on some large capital ship, perhaps with Hackett/Anderson, watching out into the deep space.
* We hear LI or Shep voice over "It would be so easy for one ship to just.. get lost in the stars."
* Cut to scene where Shep sits somewhere, watching the stars above. LI walks to Shep's side and puts a hand on his/her shoulder. Both turn to face downwards, looking at the tummy of whichever of them is female. (impying she's pregnant.)

That last paragon ending is really what I wanted/expected from the games. There is sooo much buildup to something like that, and then it all falls flat in the end. But, that's just my opinion. (although all the games have allowed MY opinion and MY choices, except the very end, which was a rail-road journey.) But, have at it, I just needed to get that out.

BIOWARE, give that to us! We deserve it!

[Bledz]

XenoAlbedo wrote...

One question... How could he get Tali pregnant?

Maybe I missed something, and if so.  Sorry.

But how does that relate to this thread?  As for your answer, just like everyone else I assume.

[silencemayday]

can't help but remember the one quote by michael gamble.

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

at first i laughed, then i thought about how much time i put into the games and nearly started crying.

[J5550123]

silencemayday wrote...

can't help but remember the one quote by michael gamble.

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

at first i laughed, then i thought about how much time i put into the games and nearly started crying.

He said that only for Bioware to give us one crappy ending anyway.

[TaylorC183]

 First I saw Harbringer guarding the beam and I was all like 

And then I got knocked out by the laser and heard everyone was dead and I was all like 

I limped like a zombie to the beam, took out TIM, saved anderson, looked out over the galaxy, tried one last time to fix everything for hackett and i was all like 

And then I met God-Child and I was all like 

And then the credits rolled<_<

Its been almost 48 hours for me since I beat it and I'm still not over it. Its like I need to find a support group or something to help me deal with the frustration. 

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

silencemayday wrote...

can't help but remember the one quote by michael gamble.

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

at first i laughed, then i thought about how much time i put into the games and nearly started crying.

That's just... I have no words. Just anger.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

http://beefjack.com/...ire-on-twitter/

"DLC was, however, a major point of contention. And when Gamble asked which DLC people were referring to, Tweeter ManateeDreamz said: “You know, the one where you charge people $10 for a proper end to your plotless game.”

[XenoAlbedo]

My utterly random Mass Effect gmod video has more story value than these endings. (The ME part doesn't appear until a minute or two in.) 

Modifié par XenoAlbedo, 09 mars 2012 - 06:58 .

[Eumerin]

lucidfox wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

One question... How could he get Tali pregnant?

...Good point.

The pregnant thing should only happen if they're humans of different sexes. Or one of them is Liara.

I would have been happy with something like that.

What I was expecting, though, was a "Captain America" ending.  At two different points, the series hints at the possibility of a "telling the story of what happened long ago" viewpoint.  The first is character creation in ME1, when the "computer archive" on Commander Shepard is corrupted, and needs to be reconstructed (i.e. you need to create your own Shepard and play through the series).  The second is the item that Liara talks to you about in your cabin.

What I was hoping and expecting was that circumstances would conspire to put Shepard in stasis for 1000 years.  After the climax of the game, you might have something like a voiceover from Liara (i.e. what she recorded on her item) that described Commander Shepard.  Then cut to a newly discovered stasis pod found adrift but still powered.  Upon opening, it would be discovered that Commander Shepard was inside...  along with the VS or Liara if you remained faithful to them through all three games (when ME2 was released, Bioware indicated that there would be a reward for remaining faithful to your ME1 LI, and this would have been that reward).  Cut to the conclusion of the game as you find out what happened while Shepard was in stasis for the last thousand years - aka finding out the long-term consequences of all of the decisions that you made during the game.

[heart486]

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

[Rhayth]

TaylorC183 wrote...

 First I saw Harbringer guarding the beam and I was all like 

And then I got knocked out by the laser and heard everyone was dead and I was all like 

I limped like a zombie to the beam, took out TIM, saved anderson, looked out over the galaxy, tried one last time to fix everything for hackett and i was all like 

And then I met God-Child and I was all like 

And then the credits rolled<_<

Its been almost 48 hours for me since I beat it and I'm still not over it. Its like I need to find a support group or something to help me deal with the frustration. 

This...so very much this.  My roommate as a non gamer was just amused to see me so frustrated, but she as a book reader understood after I told her about all 3 games.

[IndelibleJester]

I really hated the fact that I was like, "What am I going to do after I finish ME3?... play it again!"

Nope. Even just looking at screenshots I took of Garrus and my Shep together or Liara and my Shep make me miserable. I can handle a Shep kills herself ending - I even wanted that for one of my other playthroughs, that had been my plan for him in the beginning. But for my Shep with Garrus? No. I wanted her to live, because that romance path was game changer for her, she suddenly did care about coming back, and damn if my Shepard didn't have the willpower to. I can't even explain how awed I am that Mass Effect of all series doesn't have at least a semi-happy ending with Shepard and their LI together in the end. And more closure.

[Eumerin]

heart486 wrote...
Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

Not really.  And I suspect that you, like most people here, would have even been happy with a "non-cliche" ending that fit with what had come before.

But instead we've got the Giant Space Flea from Nowhere (see TV Tropes... /innocent whistle) ending, and questions about why the Normandy is transiting through the Relay Network with people who are supposed to be on Earth.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

heart486 wrote...

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

I've slept, but Im having trouble too.

And I cry and have a fight with my boyfriend because he does NOT understand my loss, =/

[Sywen]

TaylorC183 wrote...

 First I saw Harbringer guarding the beam and I was all like 

And then I got knocked out by the laser and heard everyone was dead and I was all like 

I limped like a zombie to the beam, took out TIM, saved anderson, looked out over the galaxy, tried one last time to fix everything for hackett and i was all like 

And then I met God-Child and I was all like 

And then the credits rolled<_<

Its been almost 48 hours for me since I beat it and I'm still not over it. Its like I need to find a support group or something to help me deal with the frustration. 

I need counseling or something.  I can not shake how bad the ending made me feel.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Bledz wrote...

XenoAlbedo wrote...

One question... How could he get Tali pregnant?

Maybe I missed something, and if so.  Sorry.

But how does that relate to this thread?  As for your answer, just like everyone else I assume.

She can't get pregnant since she is dextro and Shepard is levo. Now with another quraian, she can get pregnant.

Now, as for the endings, that poll is still going strong.

[silencemayday]

heart486 wrote...

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

nope. same here.
even including the crying and not quite sleeping. 

[Nathos]

This ending was very sad, i may never play mass effect again because i felt that everything i made in the past games was useless.

[laughing sherpa girl]

heart486 wrote...

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

No, and no..
I dont sleep well anyway, but, i've been furious over this for three days. This morning i find i can hardly be civil to all of you even because i'm too pissed to remain rational. Last night I even went out and bought a Wii, because at least there, the endings are better than mass effect 3. Course, its gonna suck later this month when they turn off my network.. ::sigh:;..   theres nothing wrong with cliche' and theres nothing wrong with semi-cliche'.

[Militarized]

heart486 wrote...

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

*hugs*. You aren't the only one and I actually consider myself stoic in nature but something about Mass Effect just blew that facade away and I was like a blubbering baby at the end. However... it was quickly replaced by anger and frustration the more I thought about it, especially during the Normandy scene. I expected a long cinematic explaining what your final choice does and it's ramifications since there seemed to be only 3... but nope.