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[Templar Fox]

Maybe Bioware wanted to be "cool" and "hip" and decided that happy endings were for unoriginal losers. Let's be unique and make GRIM endings.

Of course, we've seen how that's turned out.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

I haven't been crying or anything, but I've just felt kind of empty inside for the past two days.

It seems ridiculous that I could be so affected by a video game, but there it is.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Nathos wrote...

This ending was very sad, i may never play mass effect again because i felt that everything i made in the past games was useless.

I'd use the word "disappointing" rather than sad.

[mauro2222]

Yes, I cried... a lot in fact. But when characters died.

The ending gave me rage, and left me empty.

I don't want to play the game anymore, for real. Replay value = 0

Modifié par mauro2222, 09 mars 2012 - 07:14 .

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Militarized wrote...

Hey, you should update your sig. Poll just hit 5000 votes.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

Sywen wrote...

TaylorC183 wrote...

 First I saw Harbringer guarding the beam and I was all like 

And then I got knocked out by the laser and heard everyone was dead and I was all like 

I limped like a zombie to the beam, took out TIM, saved anderson, looked out over the galaxy, tried one last time to fix everything for hackett and i was all like 

And then I met God-Child and I was all like 

And then the credits rolled<_<

Its been almost 48 hours for me since I beat it and I'm still not over it. Its like I need to find a support group or something to help me deal with the frustration. 

I need counseling or something.  I can not shake how bad the ending made me feel.

I cant let it go... I know I need, I even want to... But I keep remember it and crying. I cant even work right...

[Kenthen]

heart486 wrote...

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

I threw the controller across the room, first time I've done that in a long time. I understand the feeling though, except I'm pissed more than anything else.

[Fair34]

Um.. why are the "do not like" threads being moved here while the "i like" threads are left alone?

[wrdnshprd]

why is this thread in the strategy section now?

[Kenthen]

wrdnshprd wrote...

why is this thread in the strategy section now?

Because it didn't look nice where it was before, I guess.

[Katsumi Liqueur]

Kenthen wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

why is this thread in the strategy section now?

Because it didn't look nice where it was before, I guess.

Wherever, they cant shut us up...

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

Kenthen wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

why is this thread in the strategy section now?

Because it didn't look nice where it was before, I guess.

I think they are putting us in the darkest corner of their forums where there are not many people. At least they have not closed the thread.
There is no Woo in  sight.

[bpzrn]

Its such a disconnected ending from the story and the fact that my LI or surviving crew can not at least die with me on a planet or better yet make MY SHEP's decisions count and give me some type of ending with hope.

ME3 was great until the last 15 minutes.... I went from "this is excellent, cant wait for next play through to I WISH I HAD NEVER PLAYED IT"

BW stuffed us all down the same drain.

So much work effort and emotions into this and they blow it up with the crappy ending(s).

hate it.

[J5550123]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Kenthen wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

why is this thread in the strategy section now?

Because it didn't look nice where it was before, I guess.

I think they are putting us in the darkest corner of their forums where there are not many people. At least they have not closed the thread.
There is no Woo in  sight.

I put links on this thread for the mega threads and the polls.

http://social.biowar...20029/1#9720563

[Gallion33103]

heart486 wrote...

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

Nah your not the only one. I took a week off from work just to play this game. Beat it on wednesday and have been pissed ever since. Pissed that they took everything that i worked for and turned it into a different colored explosion. Hundreds of hours of playthroughs with 6 different shepards all from ME1 meaning absolutely nothing because they all friggin die. I planned on playing every single one though to end too. Heh, not anymore. Now im just wasting time on the bland multiplayer.

Im actually glad i took the time off now, because if i had to go through this ending while having to go to work the next day i would probably be fired for my irate attitude (it was pretty bad). Might seem childish and immature, but damn its like getting to the end of a good series of books just for the author to just say "Screw you" on the last page. Which to be perfectly honest, i feel as though they did.

Ive woke up the last couple of days going "Gahh, Why the hell did they do that!" The sad part is now im actually looking forward to work. I hope they will fix it, but hell i have no faith in the gaming industry anymore. I just want a T-shirt saying "At least its better than ME3s ending(s)."

Big ol fat *sigh* to bioware. 

[JezebelWasFramed]

AnttiV wrote...

Second, to put my "money" where my mouth is, how would *I* have done it. What would be, in my opinion, better endings to the epic tale:

Here goes, my take on what (approximately) the ME3 ending should've been / what would've made it (imo) better / suggestions.

Instead of the Three Choices™ that result in approx. same situation, there should've been FIVE choices.
(Paragon getting more detailing than others, since I almost exclusively play 100% Paragon)

1) Destroy (the "good" ending, but without enough reputation/Paragon).
2) Merge (I don't really have an opinion about this)
3) Control (the "renegade" ending, but without enough reputation/Renegade).
4) (in red, Max Renegade) Use Citadel/Crucible/Guardian as a combined weapon. (available only with Max Assets)
5) (in blue, Max Paragon) Shut down Guardian, repurpose VI and zap the reapers. (available only with Max Assets)

Case 1)
* Destroy the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* With low enough Assets, the resulting explosion destroys Normandy, we see it crashing down towards earth. Crew that Shepard had with him/her is dead.
* With adequate Assets, we see Normandy making an emergency landing on earth after getting hit by flying debris, some crew members might die, depending on rep or somesuch.
* With good Assests, We see Normandy landing on earth (some crew might still be dead), Crew that was with shepard alive, they (all together) give funeral to Shepard.
* Max Assests, we see Normandy landing and the crew that was with Shepard (plus LI if wasn't in the crew) digging Shep out of a rubble or something, Shep clearly alive.


Case 2)
* I don't really have an opinion, might be same as it is, but please no random Normandy FTL/Jump/Crash. Derive from Case 1, but with crew half synthetic. Shep might need to die in any case, but prefer if with Max assests we see Shep alive in the end.


Case 3)
* Take control of the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* Low assests, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Citadel/Relays, explosion kills almost everybody. Fleets, Normandy, Shep, Planets close to Relays.
* Adequate Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Relay network. Explosion kills fleets, shep, planets close to Relays. We see Normandy crash-land, someone walks out alive.
* Good Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, they destroy Relays. explosion kills most of the fleet and planets close to relats. we see Normandy making an emergency landing to earth, some of the crew alive, perhaps LI mourning Shep and holding a picture/piece of armor.
* Max Assets, Shep either commands the reapers to to leave, which leads to destruction of the Relays, or leaves his/her body behind and becomes one of the reapers and then commanding them to leave, perhaps destroying only the citadel. Normandy lands on earth and crew comes out. If Shep chose to stay, they dig Shep out of a rubble with LI leading the digging. If Shep turned into a reaper, crew and LI talking to a VI-like projection of Shep-Reaper who says she/he'll lead the Reapers into the Darkspace. For Now.


Case 4)
* Shep "kills" Guardian and reprograms/repurposes the thing and uses it as a weapon to target the Relay Network and destroy reapers.
* Willingly destroys Relays and dooms almost all other races to save Earth
* Planets near Relays destroyed, Alien fleets stranded on Sol, but resulting burst of energy from the combined weapon destroys almost every ship in the fleets
* we see Normandy landing on earth, crew walking out (depending on some factors, some of them may be dead).
* EDI & Geth destroyed in the burst, we see Joker mourning EDI, if he wasn't killed himself.
* Shep standing on some ruins together with LI, perhaps holding blueprints of a future city / FTL drive / mass relay.
* Life, for humans, will continue, other races crippled perhaps beyond salvation, Shep and LI alive.

Case 5)
* Shep makes Guardian shutdown/alter itself to be used as a blast to shutdown reapers.
* can't do everything there, need to hit switches / hack computers in different places of citadel. Perhaps with time limit (although I detest time limits).
* each switch/hack location is defended by reaper forces, depending on what choices Shep has made during the game(s), different things happen
- Saved Rachni: On one location, a group of Rachni Warriors join shep and help attack the reaper forces
- Have Turians on board: on the way to one location, Turian Dreadnoughts fire through cracks in citadel and destroy a large part of defending force.
- Really saved Krogan (told about sabotage): on the way to one location a group of Krogan blast through a wall and assault a large reaper force, allowing Shep to make a straighter and faster way towards the location, saving much time.
- Saved Quarians or Geth: At one location, Quarians/Geth launch an EMP attack from outside the citadel, disabling a large part of defending force.
- If both Geth AND Quarians saved: At above location, the force is Quarians. At another location, Geth drive a ship to the Citadel and upload themselves to some inactive guard robots onboard of Citadel and help Shep to dispose of the defenders.
* When all switching/hacking is finished, Shep goes (races to, perhaps, depending on how long the activities took) back to the "Guardian Console" and can use the device.
* Choice:
- either use the pulse to shut down the Relay network and the Reapers with raw power (and thus disabling Geth and EDI in the process). With power going down, the reapers use the relays to escape back to darkspace. Relays shut down one after the other as the fleeing reapers use the last of their power to keep themselves running and go away. For Now.
- Or, sacrifice most of humanity to draw power from Sun/Earth to boost the operating power of the device and allow greater finess of the system. Resulting pulse shuts down, immediately, every reaper across the galaxy. But as the power was more refined, EDI and the Geth can be saved. Relays shut down as the pulse works throught them, but it is hinted that they only need to be restarted for them to work again. With sufficient unified effort by the now saved galaxy, the relays could be up and running in a few years or somesuch.
* Earth is show desolate, with some population. Not quite unlike Tuchanka. Life goes on in the Galaxy and everywhere statues and memorials are raised to remember what sacrifice humans made for everyone else to continue living.
* Humans are not wiped out, colonies remain and even on earth there are still population, but it will take years and years for humans to rise up to the power they were.
* We see Normandy crew (not LI) standing on some large capital ship, perhaps with Hackett/Anderson, watching out into the deep space.
* We hear LI or Shep voice over "It would be so easy for one ship to just.. get lost in the stars."
* Cut to scene where Shep sits somewhere, watching the stars above. LI walks to Shep's side and puts a hand on his/her shoulder. Both turn to face downwards, looking at the tummy of whichever of them is female. (impying she's pregnant.)

That last paragon ending is really what I wanted/expected from the games. There is sooo much buildup to something like that, and then it all falls flat in the end. But, that's just my opinion. (although all the games have allowed MY opinion and MY choices, except the very end, which was a rail-road journey.) But, have at it, I just needed to get that out.

I vote for this (even if I'm not sure that the developers consider this up for discussion). Maybe without the pregnancy part, even though it would be nice for my Shepard; some couples are incompatible or same-sex.

Edit:...um... maybe it's in the gameplay section because this is stopping some people from playing the game? Your guess is as good as mine.

Modifié par JezebelWasFramed, 09 mars 2012 - 07:23 .

[laughing sherpa girl]

wrdnshprd wrote...

why is this thread in the strategy section now?

because they're strategizing to keep us as silent and unheard of as possible?? Bury us where we cant cause problems.. Close any new "we're pissed" threads and hope we disappear..

[slipliker]

Jeezus, these endings just HORRIBLY SUCK. I was all like "OMG WTF WAT DO Y THINK URE DOING DAMN IT??!!" And, well, that's pretty much it. I want a "cliche" happy ending, damn it. Although the game is made from these stupid hard choices, you can't save everyone. Legion, Mordin, Thane, they die, whether you do anything or you don't. The Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 gave us better choices, where you can make everyone survive, AND HELL I LOVED IT. I mean it's not like it would be in real life, but that's not life, is it? That's a game, and it should have optimistic choices and endings. Damn it, I want BW to make a DLC with alternative endings. Don't think that's possible, though... But let's just hope they'll give us something decent.

[Faraborne]

Templar Fox wrote...

Maybe Bioware wanted to be "cool" and "hip" and decided that happy endings were for unoriginal losers. Let's be unique and make GRIM endings.

Of course, we've seen how that's turned out.

Yes and because NO ONE has ever tried this before.  Let's be original... derp

[moonslightv]

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

Kenthen wrote...

wrdnshprd wrote...

why is this thread in the strategy section now?

Because it didn't look nice where it was before, I guess.

I think they are putting us in the darkest corner of their forums where there are not many people. At least they have not closed the thread.
There is no Woo in  sight.

End of Line

[IndelibleJester]

Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

heart486 wrote...

 Am I the only one that is actually having trouble going to sleep. I haven't slept since I finished the game because my mind keeps thinking back to the ending. The only thing keeping me from selling the game is the hope that there is a fix for this nightmare. I would even take BioWare jumping out and saying "Gotcha!"

When it ended I turned off my xbox, gently set down my controller, went into my bedroom and got under the covers and then cried. I honestly felt like there had been a death in the family. My boyfriend thought I was crazy for acting the way i did but I didn't spend five years of my life falling in love with these characters to have it end like this.

Is it so bad to want the "cliche" happy ending for my Shepard?

I've slept, but Im having trouble too.

And I cry and have a fight with my boyfriend because he does NOT understand my loss, =/

I can barely get myself to eat and I haven't slept well, either. I actually cried all day yesterday. ):

[People4Peace]

Fair34 wrote...

Um.. why are the "do not like" threads being moved here while the "i like" threads are left alone?

*sighs*

Whatever they try to do people are still going to be pissed and will continue to complain. Especially as more players beat the game....

Most fans don't like the endings. This is fact and if they don't like it, that is their problem. I can't even tell you how much money I've spent on Bioware products (especially ME products), customers have the right to express themselves. I guess we're lucky they didn't completely shut down the thread....<_<

[I can Hackett]

silencemayday wrote...

can't help but remember the one quote by michael gamble.

"There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets?"

at first i laughed, then i thought about how much time i put into the games and nearly started crying.

hes been getting a lot of heat on twitter I think he should be reminded of this quote

[CptBomBom00]

JezebelWasFramed wrote...

AnttiV wrote...

Second, to put my "money" where my mouth is, how would *I* have done it. What would be, in my opinion, better endings to the epic tale:

Here goes, my take on what (approximately) the ME3 ending should've been / what would've made it (imo) better / suggestions.

Instead of the Three Choices™ that result in approx. same situation, there should've been FIVE choices.
(Paragon getting more detailing than others, since I almost exclusively play 100% Paragon)

1) Destroy (the "good" ending, but without enough reputation/Paragon).
2) Merge (I don't really have an opinion about this)
3) Control (the "renegade" ending, but without enough reputation/Renegade).
4) (in red, Max Renegade) Use Citadel/Crucible/Guardian as a combined weapon. (available only with Max Assets)
5) (in blue, Max Paragon) Shut down Guardian, repurpose VI and zap the reapers. (available only with Max Assets)

Case 1)
* Destroy the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* With low enough Assets, the resulting explosion destroys Normandy, we see it crashing down towards earth. Crew that Shepard had with him/her is dead.
* With adequate Assets, we see Normandy making an emergency landing on earth after getting hit by flying debris, some crew members might die, depending on rep or somesuch.
* With good Assests, We see Normandy landing on earth (some crew might still be dead), Crew that was with shepard alive, they (all together) give funeral to Shepard.
* Max Assests, we see Normandy landing and the crew that was with Shepard (plus LI if wasn't in the crew) digging Shep out of a rubble or something, Shep clearly alive.


Case 2)
* I don't really have an opinion, might be same as it is, but please no random Normandy FTL/Jump/Crash. Derive from Case 1, but with crew half synthetic. Shep might need to die in any case, but prefer if with Max assests we see Shep alive in the end.


Case 3)
* Take control of the reapers
* Relay network destroyed, other races' fleets probably stranded on Sol
* Depending on War Assests Earth survives/is destroyed, same for Shepard. Enough assests gets you living Shepard and Earth.
* Low assests, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Citadel/Relays, explosion kills almost everybody. Fleets, Normandy, Shep, Planets close to Relays.
* Adequate Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, but they destroy Relay network. Explosion kills fleets, shep, planets close to Relays. We see Normandy crash-land, someone walks out alive.
* Good Assets, Shep commands Reapers to leave, they destroy Relays. explosion kills most of the fleet and planets close to relats. we see Normandy making an emergency landing to earth, some of the crew alive, perhaps LI mourning Shep and holding a picture/piece of armor.
* Max Assets, Shep either commands the reapers to to leave, which leads to destruction of the Relays, or leaves his/her body behind and becomes one of the reapers and then commanding them to leave, perhaps destroying only the citadel. Normandy lands on earth and crew comes out. If Shep chose to stay, they dig Shep out of a rubble with LI leading the digging. If Shep turned into a reaper, crew and LI talking to a VI-like projection of Shep-Reaper who says she/he'll lead the Reapers into the Darkspace. For Now.


Case 4)
* Shep "kills" Guardian and reprograms/repurposes the thing and uses it as a weapon to target the Relay Network and destroy reapers.
* Willingly destroys Relays and dooms almost all other races to save Earth
* Planets near Relays destroyed, Alien fleets stranded on Sol, but resulting burst of energy from the combined weapon destroys almost every ship in the fleets
* we see Normandy landing on earth, crew walking out (depending on some factors, some of them may be dead).
* EDI & Geth destroyed in the burst, we see Joker mourning EDI, if he wasn't killed himself.
* Shep standing on some ruins together with LI, perhaps holding blueprints of a future city / FTL drive / mass relay.
* Life, for humans, will continue, other races crippled perhaps beyond salvation, Shep and LI alive.

Case 5)
* Shep makes Guardian shutdown/alter itself to be used as a blast to shutdown reapers.
* can't do everything there, need to hit switches / hack computers in different places of citadel. Perhaps with time limit (although I detest time limits).
* each switch/hack location is defended by reaper forces, depending on what choices Shep has made during the game(s), different things happen
- Saved Rachni: On one location, a group of Rachni Warriors join shep and help attack the reaper forces
- Have Turians on board: on the way to one location, Turian Dreadnoughts fire through cracks in citadel and destroy a large part of defending force.
- Really saved Krogan (told about sabotage): on the way to one location a group of Krogan blast through a wall and assault a large reaper force, allowing Shep to make a straighter and faster way towards the location, saving much time.
- Saved Quarians or Geth: At one location, Quarians/Geth launch an EMP attack from outside the citadel, disabling a large part of defending force.
- If both Geth AND Quarians saved: At above location, the force is Quarians. At another location, Geth drive a ship to the Citadel and upload themselves to some inactive guard robots onboard of Citadel and help Shep to dispose of the defenders.
* When all switching/hacking is finished, Shep goes (races to, perhaps, depending on how long the activities took) back to the "Guardian Console" and can use the device.
* Choice:
- either use the pulse to shut down the Relay network and the Reapers with raw power (and thus disabling Geth and EDI in the process). With power going down, the reapers use the relays to escape back to darkspace. Relays shut down one after the other as the fleeing reapers use the last of their power to keep themselves running and go away. For Now.
- Or, sacrifice most of humanity to draw power from Sun/Earth to boost the operating power of the device and allow greater finess of the system. Resulting pulse shuts down, immediately, every reaper across the galaxy. But as the power was more refined, EDI and the Geth can be saved. Relays shut down as the pulse works throught them, but it is hinted that they only need to be restarted for them to work again. With sufficient unified effort by the now saved galaxy, the relays could be up and running in a few years or somesuch.
* Earth is show desolate, with some population. Not quite unlike Tuchanka. Life goes on in the Galaxy and everywhere statues and memorials are raised to remember what sacrifice humans made for everyone else to continue living.
* Humans are not wiped out, colonies remain and even on earth there are still population, but it will take years and years for humans to rise up to the power they were.
* We see Normandy crew (not LI) standing on some large capital ship, perhaps with Hackett/Anderson, watching out into the deep space.
* We hear LI or Shep voice over "It would be so easy for one ship to just.. get lost in the stars."
* Cut to scene where Shep sits somewhere, watching the stars above. LI walks to Shep's side and puts a hand on his/her shoulder. Both turn to face downwards, looking at the tummy of whichever of them is female. (impying she's pregnant.)

That last paragon ending is really what I wanted/expected from the games. There is sooo much buildup to something like that, and then it all falls flat in the end. But, that's just my opinion. (although all the games have allowed MY opinion and MY choices, except the very end, which was a rail-road journey.) But, have at it, I just needed to get that out.

I vote for this (even if I'm not sure that the developers consider this up for discussion). Maybe without the pregnancy part, even though it would be nice for my Shepard; some couples are incompatible or same-sex.

Edit:...um... maybe it's in the gameplay section because this is stopping some people from playing the game? Your guess is as good as mine.

I would love the paragon ending, jesus that would've been best paragon ending ever and  all the other endings  would have made ME3 look like really good film.

[FsDxRAGE_v2]

People4Peace wrote...

Fair34 wrote...

Um.. why are the "do not like" threads being moved here while the "i like" threads are left alone?

*sighs*

Whatever they try to do people are still going to be pissed and will continue to complain. Especially as more players beat the game....

Most fans don't like the endings. This is fact and if they don't like it, that is their problem. I can't even tell you how much money I've spent on Bioware products (especially ME products), customers have the right to express themselves. I guess we're lucky they didn't completely shut down the thread....<_<

Each time I look at my lithographs on the wall, my chest tightens.

Modifié par FsDxRAGE_v2, 09 mars 2012 - 07:34 .