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Capeo wrote...

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Capeo wrote...

Novem, help me out here.

I thought, from reading the script, the merge ending left the galaxy intact. Is that not the case? The endings in the script were very ambiguous. Does you have a link to a better description of them? Feel free to PM or explain if so.

All the endings require vast amounts of energy to be spent all across the galaxy. The Relays are the ony things capable, and it seems they are lost in every ending.


Thanks.  I just got PMed the endings so I see what your talking about now.  Firstly Renegades are wholly screwed.  You cannot even get the one ending where Shep lives it seems.  That's a kick in the nuts.


Please send ME and PM too

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How did it all go so damn wrong...

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 go here if you want to know how it ends social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/347/index/9509881:devil:

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Nyaore wrote...

I'm fine with the idea that in most of the endings you get screwed over in some way, in fact I sort of expected it given how much it would cheapen the menace of the Reapers if you had an easy time of making it out of the war scott free. That said, I REALLY hope there is an ending that is at least 'mildly' happy for the Normandy and her crew. Otherwise I see another FO3 scenario where people flat out refuse to accept the endings available and headcanon in their own.


spending 80ish hours, and 80ish dollars on two other games before this one does not cheapen anything. It should have been a choice.

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CrustyBot wrote...

Assuming these rumors are true, did you really expect that Shepard and crew would be able to fight off the Reapers without consequences for themselves? As if it would resolve in a neat little package at the end like a fairy tale, or where the entire crew holds hands and sings "kumbaya"?

At the end of the day, BioWare best know how to blow us away and emotionally engage us with their rock solid, masterfully written, majestic stories. I'm sure while everyone likes to complain, do you really want a Mass Effect 3 to have a bland, lifeless ending?

Where's the drama in that?

Personally, I think it's a great ending, a completely logical conclusion based on the plot progression (that we've seen so far) and it doesn't feel artificial or forced at all. Most of you are just angry because you won't be able to live happily evar after with your LIs.

Well guess what, Mass Effect is not about a choose-your-own-romance-adventure sexual wish fulfillment mini-game, with appalling elements like shallow fanservice and over sexualization. It's a gritty, mature, adult story which will surely advance the medium in ways we can't even imagine.

I imagine a lot of people won't think like this, but I agree.

When I come to look back on this I'll see that at least Bioware tried something different. If any other studio had made ME3, you'd have fought off the Reapers and lived happily. Many would've died, but ultimately it would've been the same story we've seen a thousand times. 

Bioware has made so that you don't live happily. Shepard, and an entire civilization, basically sacrifice themselves and throw everything they have at the Reapers in the hope that even if they don't survive, one day civilizations will be able to grow and flourish.

We spend 90 odd hours with these amazing characters throughout the games, and while their sendoff is poorly handled (that bit with the Normandy crashing and making a new colony is awful imo) you don't need to see Shepard live happily with them - we've been with them for three games. We've had our time with them.What could have been a story about faceless soldiers fighting for future generations became a story about characters we know and love giving everything so that one day life would be free.

While there will be initial disappointment, I believe that when I look back on this it'll be one of the better endings I've experienced.

I'd be rather pleased with the endings if it wasn't for that Normandy bit. Its just so awful.

Would I have preferred a happy ending? Yes, probably. But so many stories end the same way - this ending will stick with me for a long time, and while I imagine that'll be for bad reasons for most people, I think it will grow on me.



I'm aware that most people won't agree with this, but these are my thoughts on it. 

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you know its all in how its presented, if presented right I don't think the ending would be that bad

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FluffyScarf wrote...

Prepare to be disappointed Nyaore with the 'mildly happy for the Normandy and her crew'. :crying:

I have my tissue box ready, just incase. 
And a standing order not to come back here for several months after the game drops. If these endings are true, then the **** storm that occurred after DA2 and ME2 were released will look like a mild water-cooler argument by comparison.

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PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

People are asking for a choice to have a "happy" ending where the characters we've all come to know and love don't get screwed over. If that choice was there, I wouldn't be complaining about the other endings at all, and I doubt other people would.
We are all well aware that there is a war going on and people will die and all that stuff, but at the end this is a video game which brags about letting you make choices and we want the choice to for a happy ending. That's all.

   



Oh please spare me the garbage . Bioware is pathetic when it comes to telling a compelling story and this proves it

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To be fair, the game itself will end up being good. It's just the endings...

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And people thought Deception is bad!

Lol this makes the Deception fiasco look like a downright cakewalk.

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Dariustwinblade wrote...

And people thought Deception is bad!

Lol this makes the Deception fiasco look like a downright cakewalk.


But the cereal!

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FluffyScarf wrote...

To be fair, the game itself will end up being good. It's just the endings...

Of this I have no doubt, I'm sure the game itself and the story leading up to the final battle will be superb. But... well, it's all been covered by this point. I'm more annoyed now that so many people are enjoying it (though it's coming from the usual suspects, I'm hardly surprised).

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FluffyScarf wrote...

To be fair, the game itself will end up being good. It's just the endings...

And the endings are what everyone is looking forward to. It doesn't matter how good the game is beforehand. If you've got a disappointing ending, no way are you recovering from that.

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Does this mean I won't be able to marry Jenkins, Nihlus, and Wilson and then go to disneyland and have 245 mutant babies with them? Then raise them in a farm and grow old and nastee cuz old people are gross?

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HiddenKING wrote...

Does this mean I won't be able to marry Jenkins, Nihlus, and Wilson and then go to disneyland and have 245 mutant babies with them? Then raise them in a farm and grow old and nastee cuz old people are gross?


I'm sorry, you can't. :P

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Novem, if you don't mind me asking (and I'm sure this has been explained eslewhere), but how did you come by a strategy guide early? Also, have we heard anything from the owners of the Space Edition? I'd be curious to hear their reactions.

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Bad news I read here... :( really, really annoying news and experiences around the final Mass Effect... :( I won't start prejudging but if the game sucks as it looks like now I will not buy any more Bioware games nor EA products, period.

Since Drew Karpyshyn left as a lead writer Mass Effect started to suck big time lore wise...

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4ut0b4hn5child27 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Novem, help me out here.

I thought, from reading the script, the merge ending left the galaxy intact. Is that not the case? The endings in the script were very ambiguous. Does you have a link to a better description of them? Feel free to PM or explain if so.

All the endings require vast amounts of energy to be spent all across the galaxy. The Relays are the ony things capable, and it seems they are lost in every ending.


Thanks.  I just got PMed the endings so I see what your talking about now.  Firstly Renegades are wholly screwed.  You cannot even get the one ending where Shep lives it seems.  That's a kick in the nuts.


Please send ME and PM too


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Candidate 88766 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

Assuming these rumors are true, did you really expect that Shepard and crew would be able to fight off the Reapers without consequences for themselves? As if it would resolve in a neat little package at the end like a fairy tale, or where the entire crew holds hands and sings "kumbaya"?

At the end of the day, BioWare best know how to blow us away and emotionally engage us with their rock solid, masterfully written, majestic stories. I'm sure while everyone likes to complain, do you really want a Mass Effect 3 to have a bland, lifeless ending?

Where's the drama in that?

Personally, I think it's a great ending, a completely logical conclusion based on the plot progression (that we've seen so far) and it doesn't feel artificial or forced at all. Most of you are just angry because you won't be able to live happily evar after with your LIs.

Well guess what, Mass Effect is not about a choose-your-own-romance-adventure sexual wish fulfillment mini-game, with appalling elements like shallow fanservice and over sexualization. It's a gritty, mature, adult story which will surely advance the medium in ways we can't even imagine.

I imagine a lot of people won't think like this, but I agree.

When I come to look back on this I'll see that at least Bioware tried something different. If any other studio had made ME3, you'd have fought off the Reapers and lived happily. Many would've died, but ultimately it would've been the same story we've seen a thousand times. 

Bioware has made so that you don't live happily. Shepard, and an entire civilization, basically sacrifice themselves and throw everything they have at the Reapers in the hope that even if they don't survive, one day civilizations will be able to grow and flourish.

We spend 90 odd hours with these amazing characters throughout the games, and while their sendoff is poorly handled (that bit with the Normandy crashing and making a new colony is awful imo) you don't need to see Shepard live happily with them - we've been with them for three games. We've had our time with them.What could have been a story about faceless soldiers fighting for future generations became a story about characters we know and love giving everything so that one day life would be free.

While there will be initial disappointment, I believe that when I look back on this it'll be one of the better endings I've experienced.

I'd be rather pleased with the endings if it wasn't for that Normandy bit. Its just so awful.

Would I have preferred a happy ending? Yes, probably. But so many stories end the same way - this ending will stick with me for a long time, and while I imagine that'll be for bad reasons for most people, I think it will grow on me.



I'm aware that most people won't agree with this, but these are my thoughts on it. 

   



Good go ahead and give this studio a pass but guess what I will never touch another Bioware game after this one no matter what they make . They think that this franchise is on the level of Star Trek and Star Wars . well I have messgae to them as a hardcore Star Wars fan . It will be a cold day in hell before this franchise ever reaches that level

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Tancho wrote...

Novem, if you don't mind me asking (and I'm sure this has been explained eslewhere), but how did you come by a strategy guide early? Also, have we heard anything from the owners of the Space Edition? I'd be curious to hear their reactions.


The mother of a friend of mine works at a facility that packages strategy guides (among other things) and ships them around the United States. She can, however, bring home 5 "things" (i.e. strategy guides) for a single product to distribute--without taking money of course--to friends and family. Of course, I'm interested in the game as well as her son; my friend.

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HiddenKING wrote...

Does this mean I won't be able to marry Jenkins, Nihlus, and Wilson and then go to disneyland and have 245 mutant babies with them? Then raise them in a farm and grow old and nastee cuz old people are gross?


I don't think they allow trolls in disneyland. Maybe the farm though , if it has a creek with a bridge.

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SpiderFan1217 wrote...

4ut0b4hn5child27 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Novem, help me out here.

I thought, from reading the script, the merge ending left the galaxy intact. Is that not the case? The endings in the script were very ambiguous. Does you have a link to a better description of them? Feel free to PM or explain if so.

All the endings require vast amounts of energy to be spent all across the galaxy. The Relays are the ony things capable, and it seems they are lost in every ending.


Thanks.  I just got PMed the endings so I see what your talking about now.  Firstly Renegades are wholly screwed.  You cannot even get the one ending where Shep lives it seems.  That's a kick in the nuts.


Please send ME and PM too


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I'm already this deep, I may as well sate my curiousity. Would you be a doll and PM me as well? Much looooove. :wizard:

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hhh89 wrote...

HiddenKING wrote...

Does this mean I won't be able to marry Jenkins, Nihlus, and Wilson and then go to disneyland and have 245 mutant babies with them? Then raise them in a farm and grow old and nastee cuz old people are gross?


I'm sorry, you can't. :P

Bioware is not doin what I want! They are lazy, and worse than _______!

I wanted to punch Reapers in the face, and go spill some drinks on the Citadel with my boi Jacob. And do naked backflips until the end of time.

I blame Capcom.

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Kasen13 wrote...

I'm more annoyed now that so many people are enjoying it


Here's a question for the ages: why does whether or not someone else enjoys something annoy you? I ask this question of everyone who has ever been annoyed by other people having fun with things they don't like, and defy them to come up with an intelligent answer.

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Can anyone PM me the script leak? I want confirmation of this.