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Eumerin

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Taleroth wrote...

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I'm really curious to see the reaction from European and other fans who finally had the game released for them. I hope Bioware will start to notice and SAY SOMETHING about our reactions.

I fear the European opinion is tainted. Many people are forming opinions based on what others tell them about the ending. Then they'll hold onto that and, even when they see the endings, they'll reinforce it. They'll look for the part to hate and focus on it.


On the other hand, they may see the wave of revulsion and come into the game with lowered expectations.  As a result, it's possible that they'll like the ending a little more than North American customers do because they weren't expecting as much.

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frankennettles

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I just googled "winter on mars" was kinda surprised....

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Said it before will say it again. All they need to do right now is say something along the lines of "Due to some fan concerns we will look into the ending situation for ME3" That would at least let us know something but nope lalalala we'll just ignore it and F$^* You fans. Sigh the longer this goes on the angrier i get about it. I just feel betrayed.

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Wraith 02 wrote...

whats worse is Mass Effect 3 had a good ending. They should have finished with Anderson and Shepard being rescued as the weapon fires and then finish off the story with all of ur friends. The crap with the little kid should be deleted and burned


Definitely a push in the right direction.

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What pisses me off more than anything is the ability to "keep playing" after the game is over. But all it does is take you back to a previous point before going into the Cerberus base. That by itself, even more than the "out-there" ending, was very jarring. After that ending, I had no desire to be put back at the point just before the final stretch.

I really would rather have not been given the option to continue playing with that particular character, like in ME1. Being plunked back down at an earlier point, after all the drama and weirdness and finality of the ending was extremely jarring.

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Taleroth wrote...

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Yeah, I get there are people who didn't mind the ending, even liked it. But it seems to me that a larger group of people are actually upset. I'm guessing it will be next week before we hear anything from Bioware. :(

The longer they downplay the outrage the more it will hurt them.

I'm not being optimistic about this, in general. But let's not assume they're downplaying it. Let's give them time to assess their options and commit to a solution. They can't turn on a dime.

You may be right. But when they choose to only quote and respond to the positive responses to the endings I begin to doubt. 

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Eumerin wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

rekkoi wrote...

I'm really curious to see the reaction from European and other fans who finally had the game released for them. I hope Bioware will start to notice and SAY SOMETHING about our reactions.

I fear the European opinion is tainted. Many people are forming opinions based on what others tell them about the ending. Then they'll hold onto that and, even when they see the endings, they'll reinforce it. They'll look for the part to hate and focus on it.


On the other hand, they may see the wave of revulsion and come into the game with lowered expectations.  As a result, it's possible that they'll like the ending a little more than North American customers do because they weren't expecting as much.

Fair counterpoint.

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I found this. It was a better ending.


Modifié par Gigerstreak, 09 mars 2012 - 11:13 .


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Hello everyone, this is most likely the first and only post I shall make on BSN.

The journey from the very first Mass Effect to now has been... staggering to say the least.
After finishing Mass Effect 3 though, I almost feel... sick.
The Mass Effect series have always been one of the most emotional and exciting experiences for any form of entertainment, and for it all to take such a abrupt and awful turn in the last 5 minutes is more of a disappointment than anything of recent memory.

I even tried to play NG+ today and the entire time I was thinking to myself, "what's the point"?
After three games getting to know the characters and loving each one of them, for it to end like that.... I'm at a loss of words.

I wasn't expecting a Disney ending, and I have no problem preforming the ultimate sacrifice for the greater good, but like others said, where's the closure?
What about my crew? My love Interest? The Galaxy without Mass Relays?
Everything I did... all the relationships I made, the peace between races I introduced, didn't matter in the end.
I could have screwed everything up and still be left with those endings.

Even though I said I didn't expect a Disney-esque, doesn't mean I didn't want some kind of happiness for Shepard...

I feel betrayed BioWare, but I still have hope that you'll listen to your fans and give us the ending that WE deserve.

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Taleroth wrote...

rekkoi wrote...

I'm really curious to see the reaction from European and other fans who finally had the game released for them. I hope Bioware will start to notice and SAY SOMETHING about our reactions.

I fear the European opinion is tainted. Many people are forming opinions based on what others tell them about the ending. Then they'll hold onto that and, even when they see the endings, they'll reinforce it. They'll look for the part to hate and focus on it.

As a scientist, I regret the terrible data contamination. As a video and computer game enthusiast, I just want better endings, dag nabbit. So I'm okay with the contamination so long as nobody passes it off as accurate.


I got the game on Monday by VPN living in England, i was extremely pissed off by the ending after avoiding the forums for months due to spoilers

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cotheer wrote...

I don't know about you, but i actually have a problem with the whole Crucible thing.
I mean, finding a weapon that will destroy reapers just as they started attacking, and not a day before (yes i know about Liaras' little speech on Mars), is really really bad idea not to say a big ass cliche.

"i think we have something hurr durr" ... what the hell were you doing for the last 6 months to say the least >_<


I had the same reaction.

"Wait so your only hope is something that you don't even know what it doesn, how it works, or what key components of it are, what the **** is the plan build it then ask the reapers how to turn the damn thing on? Where is the best place to fire it? is it a giant gun that will shoot them? A bomb? Is it possibly a kill switch that was installed when the reapers were made?"

All of these things should have been asked at some point or at least addressed.

But really I was ready to voerlook the stuipd thing until the ending. The fact that noone asked anything like that and then Hacket was all "Why isn't it doing anything?" basicly made me yell "Because you didn't do any resurch ya moron! For all you know that could be reaper tech indoctronated servents left behind so other races wasted time, resorces, and their best minds building this thing instead of fighting the true threat!"

The endings magnify all the problems with the Crucible and just how damn bad it was.

Yet again a couple of good well thought out ending that factored in what you did in the damn game and gave some glimmer of hope would have basicly had me ignore how dumb everyone was acting about the thing.

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@kittenpirate you're not alone make sure to vote in the poll

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

As far as bioware being quiet, I want to say that they are assessing the situation and coming up with an appropriate response, but seeing posts like those on twitter and such are really damaging my hope for a better ending. It's as if they're doing this on purpose, you don't make an ending that bad on accident man.

#15038
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I think I am like many people who loved the first 99% of this game. I thought game play was fantastic, going through this game, the combat was great, the story was fantastic, and the gathering was actually engaging. As I was playing I was telling my friends how much I was enjoying this game, it was going fine up until that little glowy kid shows up. That point on it completely ruined it for me. I still have a knot in my stomach an hour latter how utterly disappointed and disgusted I am.

Meanwhile Bioware, or is it EA now, that could explain things, promised us we could get an ending we want.

Ending that we want?! The 3 possible endings are so terrible how could anyone want them? All my decisions, all the things I did, none of it mattered. All I wanted to see at the end of this game, my "good ending" that I was shooting for, was me and Tali on Rannoch. But no, apparently the Normandy is randomly traveling through space (wasnt it supposed to be fighting Reapers above Earth?) and gets stranded on some random world. With Tali on it. Guess she won't see Rannoch again. After I bust my ass liberating it. Or me for that matter. Yay 5 years of the Tali fan club wasted. All cause apparently synthetics and organics can't co-exist. Except I proved they could. Twice. And what prevents the organic/synthetic hybrids from making new pure synthetics. Obscure moral philosophy doesn't work to hot when it has holes big enough to fly the Normandy through. Oh wait, that crashed on a RANDOM planet, with a large enough human crew that apparently they repopulated another world? Really?

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Kittenpirate wrote...

Hello everyone, this is most likely the first and only post I shall make on BSN.

The journey from the very first Mass Effect to now has been... staggering to say the least.
After finishing Mass Effect 3 though, I almost feel... sick.
The Mass Effect series have always been one of the most emotional and exciting experiences for any form of entertainment, and for it all to take such a abrupt and awful turn in the last 5 minutes is more of a disappointment than anything of recent memory.

I even tried to play NG+ today and the entire time I was thinking to myself, "what's the point"?
After three games getting to know the characters and loving each one of them, for it to end like that.... I'm at a loss of words.

I wasn't expecting a Disney ending, and I have no problem preforming the ultimate sacrifice for the greater good, but like others said, where's the closure?
What about my crew? My love Interest? The Galaxy without Mass Relays?
Everything I did... all the relationships I made, the peace between races I introduced, didn't matter in the end.
I could have screwed everything up and still be left with those endings.

Even though I said I didn't expect a Disney-esque, doesn't mean I didn't want some kind of happiness for Shepard...

I feel betrayed BioWare, but I still have hope that you'll listen to your fans and give us the ending that WE deserve.


Exactly.  If you need to kill Shepard off, so be it.  But there's no closure.  Nothing accomplished matters.  You can screw everything up and the culmination of the "important" choices you've made is still a great "choose your color of explosion" ending.  They really couldnt afford a few simple screens with text explaining what happened to the ones we care about?  It's ridiculous.

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Hmm, I actually like the 3 endings that are offered. Left me pretty wowed.

Only dumb/weird thing is the destruction of the relays (say goodbye to any follow up games), and the random flying/crashing of the Normandy on some Earth version 2.0.

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LordHelfort wrote...

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Has anyone from bioware even commented on the amount of dissatisfaction?


Not that I know of.


Any response will only come next week.

With any luck the cascade of dissastisfcation will swamp all the other language forums and make it even harder for them to ignore.

Has anyone suggested a method of affecting their bottomline to force a response? Someone told me something along the lines that Gamestop was taking back copies of the game?


If you sell back your copy to gamestop and tell them that you have they will be really pissed. They get no profits from used game sales. Also tell them that you will never buy another EA game new and if you ever even buy another EA game it will be used from gamestop. Also, never buy another DLC or online pass.

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I just finished playing...... and honestly.... I just feel empty.

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Gigerstreak wrote...

I found this. It was a better ending.


Sadly, I would take this ending over the current one.

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Seriously, if there was a happy ending, I'd be replaying Mass Effect 3 for weeks. Changing all the decisions I made and seeing how they made an impact.

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Direwolf1618 wrote...

I think I am like many people who loved the first 99% of this game. I thought game play was fantastic, going through this game, the combat was great, the story was fantastic, and the gathering was actually engaging. As I was playing I was telling my friends how much I was enjoying this game, it was going fine up until that little glowy kid shows up. That point on it completely ruined it for me. I still have a knot in my stomach an hour latter how utterly disappointed and disgusted I am.

Meanwhile Bioware, or is it EA now, that could explain things, promised us we could get an ending we want.

Ending that we want?! The 3 possible endings are so terrible how could anyone want them? All my decisions, all the things I did, none of it mattered. All I wanted to see at the end of this game, my "good ending" that I was shooting for, was me and Tali on Rannoch. But no, apparently the Normandy is randomly traveling through space (wasnt it supposed to be fighting Reapers above Earth?) and gets stranded on some random world. With Tali on it. Guess she won't see Rannoch again. After I bust my ass liberating it. Or me for that matter. Yay 5 years of the Tali fan club wasted. All cause apparently synthetics and organics can't co-exist. Except I proved they could. Twice. And what prevents the organic/synthetic hybrids from making new pure synthetics. Obscure moral philosophy doesn't work to hot when it has holes big enough to fly the Normandy through. Oh wait, that crashed on a RANDOM planet, with a large enough human crew that apparently they repopulated another world? Really?


post in the stickied review thread

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Gintama007 wrote...

Seriously, if there was a happy ending, I'd be replaying Mass Effect 3 for weeks. Changing all the decisions I made and seeing how they made an impact.

With a happy end for ME3, I would play the ME trilogy the whole year! I think an ending DLC would be a win-win situation. BioWare get more money and satisfied fans and we get our beloved ME trilogy back. I want a huge epilogue with a almost endless farewell to all the great characters and places. No five minutes crashlanding and credits. :)

Modifié par Prince_Valiant, 09 mars 2012 - 11:27 .


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NovemEnuma wrote...

BioWare said the ending(s) would make some people upset. The Mass Effect series is a dark sci-fi series, the best you can expect for almost anything in it is bittersweet. I mean...each Mass Effect game had a heroic, yet bittersweet ending. The "happiest" one would be Mass Effect 1, and even then, you knew impending doom was coming.


Bioware saying the endings making people upset is ok.  The fact that a HUGE majority of the player base is reaching for the pitchforks over it is a big indicator that they ****ed up big time.

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I want to sell my signed Litho now.

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Xyogan8320 wrote...

NovemEnuma wrote...

BioWare said the ending(s) would make some people upset. The Mass Effect series is a dark sci-fi series, the best you can expect for almost anything in it is bittersweet. I mean...each Mass Effect game had a heroic, yet bittersweet ending. The "happiest" one would be Mass Effect 1, and even then, you knew impending doom was coming.


Bioware saying the endings making people upset is ok.  The fact that a HUGE majority of the player base is reaching for the pitchforks over it is a big indicator that they ****ed up big time.


It's war - I was expecting a completely dark ending in there somewhere - but that' does not mean I want to feel horribly angry, confused and depressed the rest of the day afterwards. There were things wrong with those endings. 

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I feel like I was raped.