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[bpzrn]

"I hate the endings on a level i reserve for deep seeded personal betrayals"


That sums the endings up nicely......... so sad to see this game end on that awful ending

[GSS115]

This is how I see the Endings:

Starts epically then ends flailing all over the place. Bioware please fix this. The endings are understandable (at best) but please don't limit them to that.

[shnellegaming]

Sywen wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

lastpatriot wrote...

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

Ironically, Twitter is awfully quiet today. Not much of anything from any of the Dev team. Makes you wonder.

That's what surprises me.  Did they NOT expect this level of a backlash from the most anticipated game of 2012?

Honestly, I don't think they did. They have to be concerned. Despite what a somewhat vocal minority say BW does care what we think, they are listening to us. i would be very suprised if there weren't more than a few hastily made phone calls trying to think of responses to this backlash.

The game made me feel so hopeless ...I don't think they will do anything to fix it.

Bioware isn't known for fixing things.  As far as I know Garrus face in ME1 still isn't fixed.  And DA2 was certainly never addressed.

[Annaleah]

Honestly... I would have been fine with the ending if they hadn't thrown in that bit with the Normandy getting stranded... it was pointless and despite the fact that I brought my Shepard's LI with me right up until the end... he still managed to get on the Normandy and end up stranded on a remote planet.

If they had just STAYED on earth I would have been happy because I got the ending where Shepard supposedly "Lives" meaning there is a chance for a reunion of friends and lovers.

But no... they had to make sure that might never happen and leave a plot hole so large I could fall in it and break my ankle...

[retailavenger85]

Annaleah wrote...

Honestly... I would have been fine with the ending if they hadn't thrown in that bit with the Normandy getting stranded... it was pointless and despite the fact that I brought my Shepard's LI with me right up until the end... he still managed to get on the Normandy and end up stranded on a remote planet.

If they had just STAYED on earth I would have been happy because I got the ending where Shepard supposedly "Lives" meaning there is a chance for a reunion of friends and lovers.

But no... they had to make sure that might never happen and leave a plot hole so large I could fall in it and break my ankle...

Yeah. I was thinking "good think I left Kaidan on Earth! He can come pick me up!" but then hes on the other side of the galaxy somehow???? whaaaaat.

[Nyila]

Experimentel wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Sour yellow note..

Man, the ending is SO depressing, I feel like I need therapy.. Losing Shepard and having so many questions come up right at the end, wondering who the hell survived.. Sacrificing ourselves for the good of the people who'll come in the next cycle is a great ideal, but, correct me if I'm wrong, people play games to be entertained and happy, not to cry over the death of a lot of pixelated characters they've been in love with for 5 years, including the one they carefully crafted.. I was expecting a few deaths, of course, but not this! Other Bioware games always had at least a few happy endings, even if they weren't 100% happy.

Heck I spent the last 2 weeks replaying through ME1 & 2 to make sure my Shepard was perfect, just to see her being taken away from me like that.. It feels like such a waste.. After I finished the game, I went Google hunting to check for good endings, and I found out there really are none, so what the hell is the point of replaying through the game if I can't even expect to get anything better than that?!

I know. It leaves a bad taste like someone stuffed a lemon and a jalpeno in your mouth at the same time and then made you swallow it.

That's pretty much it..

[JPshieux]

krashofny90 wrote...

Just give me an ending worth fighting for.

This, this is exactly what is at the core of our complaints. 

[Experimentel]

Annaleah wrote...

But no... they had to make sure that might never happen and leave a plot hole so large I could fall in it and break my ankle...

I wish Shepard had fallen in the plot hole. Then by some space-time continum mess she might have ended up in a happier ending too, without the burning kid.

The sad part is that it would have made more sense. 

Modifié par Experimentel, 09 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[SolidisusSnake1]

Prince_Valiant wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Xellith wrote...

I feel like I was raped.

Now don't get me wrong, I hate the endings on a level i reserve for deep seeded personal betrayals but calling it rape feels wrong and quite frankly makes me feel a bit ashamed that someone even tried to equate the two things.

You're absolutely right, thanks for this reminder.

Honestly I am going to agree here the ending emotionally "raped" me. And I am not using the term lightly, I literally felt sick after the ending, this sickening empty feeling in my stomach that has perssited for two days now. After so many hours invested into both games, and having such a great time though 99% of ME3 the ending just slapped me in the face from nowhere. It took everything I loved about ME away from me and left me with a cratering hole where my love of ME used to be. I find myself even now replaying scenarios in my head again and again trying to wonder where it all went wrong. How could they do this? What went wrong? What did we do to deserve this?

I think rape is an appropriate term here.

[lastpatriot]

What troubles me is that these boards have been burning up with angry fans and yet we get no response from BioWare - just silence! I just have a hard time even believing this.

[Golferguy758]

Mass Effect was released in Europe today(yesterday) so I'm sure they want to see the reactions from fans over there as well.

[Anthadlas]

Start posting reviews on all the review sites, let people know of this massive flaw before they destroy their memories of Mass Effect

[bpzrn]

In 4 days this poll is just about the second most voted on poll for these forums (82% and climbing with a this ending sucks response.

http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/

It will easily be top of the list by end of thsi weekend.

I see BW people chiming in on random stuff the past 3 days but not a word on the endings and the obvious anger/disappointment/sadness of the fans and the people they are taking money from.

Why no response at all?

We all knew their be bad endings, heck I figured the best ending would still have loss associated with it, but these not only don't make sense they do not fall in line with any decisions we have made over the past 2 games.

Really stinks.I was hoping for a bad ending to play through and a good one, this one is bad then it fails for our story line completely also....

[nilcox]

I just feel destroyed by the ending. I mean I would be fine if sheperd died after 1 of the decisions, maby a cutscene of him collapsing on the floor up there and lay watching the reapers blow up and try to flee and then take a last breath. What I miss from this ending is any semblence of closure, what happens next? All mass relays broken, crew stranded?

What I would like to have seen is a happy ending, be it bittersweet with sheperd dying alone at the citadel but atlest let me see that all my 5 year companions will be alright when its all said and done, show me brief cutscens a few years after the events in ME3 or something.

I hear of some better new game plus ending but I just cant bring myself to replay the game, not ever. I feel like the 350 hours I put into my sheperd was for nothing and all I have done his been ****ed.

Thanks bioware.

[Almostfaceman]

lastpatriot wrote...

What troubles me is that these boards have been burning up with angry fans and yet we get no response from BioWare - just silence! I just have a hard time even believing this.

As do I, I could understand if it were an unhappy minority, but it's become obvious that most folks just do not like the ending. 

So talk to us Bioware, please. If you're not going to change it, tell us. If you're considering it, tell us. If you're going to listen to us and change it, tell us. 

Thanks for reading.

[Maera Imrov]

Now that I've played the game some I will add some more comments. I've not gotten to the endings yet to see them 'in context' (but that wouldn't matter a damn anyway because plenty have and are still mad), because frankly something about the whole game is bugging me. I can't quite put my finger on it, I think it's a myriad of things, and the shift in tone, that is making the entire thing feel like it's taking place in a close-alternate reality from 1 and 2. That said:

I have no problems with the idea of Shepard having to sacrifice themselves. I don't even -more or less- have issues with the relays being brought offline. What I have issues with is the 11th hour deus ex machina, the space magic of the Merge ending, the god-child of the Crucible. My Shepard barely knew this kid. At the very least you could have had it take the form of someone else he/she had known and lost. You know, one that actually could have made an impact on his/her psyche. The VS. Someone from ME2 who may have died. A living LI, just for added funsies.

But most of all I have issues with the fact that this series was never, ever a dark sci-fi like BSG. I have no issues with dark sci-fi. Or dark fantasy. I loved BSG. I read A Song of Ice and Fire. But ME has never been that. It has always had much more in common with Firefly/Serenity or Star Wars than the dark, gritty sci-fi 'verses. Down to Zaeed taking the phrase 'big damn heroes' straight from Firefly. Hope, the ability to overcome all odds if you stand together, self-determination, all of these were messages of the ME series. *Not* this synthetics vs organics nonsense. Tech singularities. As if that hasn't been hacked to death in far too many sci-fi books and shows to begin with. Just because some scientists theorycraft that it's inevitable does not make it so. Nothing is certain, other than death, eventually, in some form. And even that is debatable given enough advancements. But this synthetic/organic thing, that was one subplot, in the Geth/Quarian war. It was resolved. And frankly, no one gave the Reapers the right to play god and kill everyone because this cycle *might* come up with AI that would eat everything. And even if it did, I -and I'm sure most any sentient race- would rather stand or fall on my own merits or failures, and not be told I have to die, because of some tech some people might or might not come up with. A war that might or might not happen. Thanks very much, but take your god-complex elsewhere.

So why, when the series had been about self-determination, and when most self aware beings enjoy free will, does Shepard at the end not tell the silly god-child, "Thanks, but no thanks. We'll do this on our own. We'll break this cycle our way."

It could go from there based on decisions and readiness. I'd honestly rather that the silly kid not be in the story at all, that gathering the galaxy into a united front (or not) was the 'weapon' I was building, not some silly ubermechacannon no one knew about until the last game.

Modifié par Maera Imrov, 10 mars 2012 - 12:06 .

[singing_pigs]

krashofny90 wrote...

Just give me an ending worth fighting for.

This sums up the whole problem so beautifully.

[dkear1]

mokponobi wrote...

Gigerstreak wrote...

I found this. It was a better ending.

Sadly, I would take this ending over the current one.

Yes, I could except this.  Far better than the crap fest that bioware put out.  I am betting this would indeed be easy for them to do too.

[thormir]

Oh I get the ending the illusive man is bioware see and we are shepard and the crucible is EA... bear with me we spend all our time rallying the galaxy ( building our character) illusive man tries to help us (me2) then allys with an evil entity (crucible/citadel/reapers/EA) and when we finally get to the end illusive man dies (bioware's integrity and storytelling) just so the citadel/crucible/EA can tell us "you have no choices but the ones we give you and bend over puny shep because my fist will not be lubed so grab yer ankles this is gonna be painful" ..............ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

[The_Canadian_Dragon]

tripleb2k wrote...

We get the same basic ending no matter what our choice is. That's garbage! What happened to the rest of my crew?
Maybe I wouldn't be so mad if I didn't have a 'romance' partner in this game. The fact they made me care about my characters than have all of my choices end up in the same place suuucks!
Hope this has "Broken Steel" like DLC so fix this crap. I'm really disappointed and depressed. Hours of my life devoted to something and I get this... Thanks for an amazing ride but screw you for a terrible finish.

That's what a lot of people are saying in a nutshell.

[AmaraDark]

krashofny90 wrote...

If there is anyway to talk to the writing team as a whole in person, I would just have one thing to say.
Just give me an ending worth fighting for and to come back to. That's all.

This. I have four other play throughs of me1 and 2 still left to port and see through to the end. But I just don't have the heart to boot them up knowing that it's all for ---absolutely nothing---. The surprise starchild ending? My Femshep won't get to keep her promise to Garrus, and regular Shep won't see Liara again.

It would be so easy to ditch the Matrix/BSG/balance of the force... I mean universe stuff they shoehorned in on the last five minutes. Until the ending, I thought the dreams were just Shepard trying to deal with the stress and guilt of having lost so many near and dear to her.

Just dump it and write a better ending(s). Like one where Shepard defies the starchild and the cycle, points to the Quarians and Geth, Joker and EDI - and tells them we're going to make our own damn way, for victory or death, and we will no more bow to the cycles non-choices then the ones that the none choices the Reapers/Collectors gave us before, or Cerberus.

Modifié par AmaraDark, 10 mars 2012 - 12:10 .

[Gallowglass1983]

singing_pigs wrote...

krashofny90 wrote...

Just give me an ending worth fighting for.

This sums up the whole problem so beautifully.

Precisely!!

[Brandonhc]

singing_pigs wrote...

krashofny90 wrote...

Just give me an ending worth fighting for.

This sums up the whole problem so beautifully.

Here here.

[Flapperrr]

In general, should have a choice, who want the bad ending, as it is now - let them be who wants to "average" in different variations of the saved / lost - too fine, well and happy one, it is extremely difficult to obtain, requiring a perfect pass parts 1 and 2 - also must, simply must be!

[rekkoi]

Almostfaceman wrote...

lastpatriot wrote...

What troubles me is that these boards have been burning up with angry fans and yet we get no response from BioWare - just silence! I just have a hard time even believing this.

As do I, I could understand if it were an unhappy minority, but it's become obvious that most folks just do not like the ending. 

So talk to us Bioware, please. If you're not going to change it, tell us. If you're considering it, tell us. If you're going to listen to us and change it, tell us. 

Thanks for reading.

The waiting for a reply from Bioware is what is going to drive me insane the most. Knowing if there is hope for them to put out a better ending or not.