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Nyila

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thePredator50 wrote...

As I said - people want a happy ending, that's not going to happen. I sincerely hope Bioware doesn't cave in to ridiculous happy end demands. Just elaborate more on the aftermath to the existing endings.


There was blatant fanservice in certain areas, but Bioware didn't cave in and didn't give Thane a cure, instead they gave him a worthy death. They did the same for Shepard, except, Shepard wasn't dying from any disease. Curing Thane would have been unrealistic, but giving Shepard different options would have made sense.

My opinion anyway..

#15177
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Landline wrote...

I think that there should be a happy ending, why?

Because Shepard is set up across all three games as the big goddamned hero that saves the day by doing the impossible again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

Besides, after all of the **** he's been though, I think he's damn well earned the option for a happy ending.


This soo much... My shepard as many have gone through hell and back... He/she deserves a rest... A GOOD rest.

Hell even if it was just text ala Dragon Age: Origins, I wouldn't have been as angry. I would have liked to have it tell me that my Shepard went back to the Quarian Homeworld and built that house with Tali! 

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#15178
MordiMoro

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In Italy we think that the game was released incomplete, unfinished.
The many end announced on twitter are not there, has been used only a part of the "finished" and placing the variation of color.

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Those who are arguing we shouldn't have a Disney Ending are forgetting that all of the endings are basically color coded.

What's more Disney-ish, a happy ending? Or endings that are so pathetically simple as to be explained in a color.

#15180
laughing sherpa girl

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just a reminder folks, please cross post your opinions on twitter to @masseffect. Here they are appreciated, there, they may make a difference..

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So how long before they start locking every thread with "ending" in the title and herding everyone in here?

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MordiMoro wrote...

In Italy we think that the game was released incomplete, unfinished.
The many end announced on twitter are not there, has been used only a part of the "finished" and placing the variation of color.


Yep.. Pretty much same everywhere..

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I agree i hated the ending :P, i was hoping to survive and live a happy life with tali, or if i died i wanted to see tali mourn for me, not the crap ending this trilogy did not deserve.

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LordHelfort wrote...

Those who are arguing we shouldn't have a Disney Ending are forgetting that all of the endings are basically color coded.

What's more Disney-ish, a happy ending? Or endings that are so pathetically simple as to be explained in a color.


Hah true!

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MordiMoro wrote...

In Italy we think that the game was released incomplete, unfinished.
The many end announced on twitter are not there, has been used only a part of the "finished" and placing the variation of color.


We thought that here also Mordimoro. pretty sad huh??

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After beating the game I do have to agree the endings are a bit on the weaker side and I only say that due to 2 things.

1) why is joker leaving? unless Hackett ordered a retreat I see no reason he should be leaving (I'm willing to accept the "teleporting" squad mates due to me having Garrus and Tali with me and they didn't appear) and if Hackett did order a retreat then there's a chance that at least a couple other ships landed near the Normandy (same system at least)

2) Buzz f$%^ing Aldrin or that whole post credits scene which I'm fully able to ignore all together

All in all the ending wasn't as bad as all you people make it out to be if you're willing to piece together some of your own reasons of course it wasn't a ground breaking ending by any means.

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Nyila wrote...

LordHelfort wrote...

Those who are arguing we shouldn't have a Disney Ending are forgetting that all of the endings are basically color coded.

What's more Disney-ish, a happy ending? Or endings that are so pathetically simple as to be explained in a color.


Hah true!

The world is a carousel of colour
Wonderful, beautiful, colour.....  ( Walt Disney opening theme from the sixties )

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People4Peace wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

As I said - people want a happy ending, that's not going to happen. I sincerely hope Bioware doesn't cave in to ridiculous happy end demands. Just elaborate more on the aftermath to the existing endings.


Nope. Completely wrong. <_<

Honestly why are you making stuff up? Are you reading the posts? If you're going to add your opinion, at least let it be based on what we're saying not on what you're thinking. People have expressed themselves beautifully on here and other threads so maybe you should read those first


A lot of people are complaining about the lack of a happy ending.  So he's(?) not completely off base.  But a lot of people are also explicitly NOT complaining about the lack of a happy ending while still finding fault with it, and he is completely ignoring that group.

For what it's worth, I'm in the second group.

Ultimately, though, I think that most of the people who are complaining about the lack of a happy ending could have been appeased if the ending had actually been well-written, instead of coming across as a cheap Ron Moore knock-off.  There are plenty of examples of games that are widely applauded despite having downbeat endings (Planescape: Torment, for instance).  I believe that if the writers hadn't botched the ending so badly, then people would ignore the downbeat aspects of the ending and embrace it anyway.

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I actually had to tell my brother not to buy the game when I learned about the horrible endings. Still can't bring myself to play the game anymore.

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Lord Nikon 001 wrote...

You've played DA2... We've all been through this before. Bioware will never address the endings nor will they give us a happier or easier to swallow one. NEVER. No matter how much we B&C about it. ME3 ended the series in a lot more ways than anyone ever thought it would.

Prepare for great new DLC outfits, guns and multi player maps. That'll surely appease the fans. Image IPB


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Nyila wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

As I said - people want a happy ending, that's not going to happen. I sincerely hope Bioware doesn't cave in to ridiculous happy end demands. Just elaborate more on the aftermath to the existing endings.


There was blatant fanservice in certain areas, but Bioware didn't cave in and didn't give Thane a cure, instead they gave him a worthy death. They did the same for Shepard, except, Shepard wasn't dying from any disease. Curing Thane would have been unrealistic, but giving Shepard different options would have made sense.

My opinion anyway..


Our opinion. Not only you and I, but the most part of the comunity.

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Serious question... seems to really makes no sense... Why the main character and supporting cast have to die to achieve the "no more stories?"

As far as I know, Minsc didn't died... neither did Kyle Kataarn on the various Jedi Knight titles, yet the story is effectively over. It seems like a very weak argument "Characters dead, no more stories"

That is a cop out, and a weak one at that. Characters can have a resolution, can survive, if changed/injured etc, and still not get more stories about them even you even hint that they go on to do greater things...

Where are all the stories showing Sam, Peregrine and Meriadoc after their return from the war? They returned changed... there are some indications that they made great things after that... yet the story was over.

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Prince_Valiant wrote...

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But at the end of the day, what most people are REALLY upset about isn't the quality of the ending, it's the ending itself - it's ended. No more Shepard, no more Liara, no more Tali. The End folks.

Please, speak for yourself. The most of us have another opinion, and personally I think you totally wrong, but in contrary to you I respect your opinion. But your opinion is only this - an opinion, not a fact, even if you claim that.

For me and many, many others a happy ending fits perfectly to this story and you have no right to speak for us.

We want no replacement, we want an alternative. It seems really egoistic of you to deny this.


What;s egoistic is demanding the author to change their creation. None of us have put more thought into this than the developers, I am very sure that, given enough time, people's opinions will start to fluctuate. I do not speak for you, I speak against you. I do not want to see a developer cave in to demands by people who mostly aren't qualified to make a proper decision on the subject. It's happened before and it cost developers greatly.

I knew from the get-go that Shepard would end up being a martyr. The way reapers were portrayed in ME1 made me question just how it would be possible to win a war against an entire army. The "shepard lives" ending in ME3 undermines what Shepard ultimately stood for, and died for. The ending was supposed to make people feel sad, devastated, torn... Everyone loved their Shep, got invested with their LI, their crew, all their friends. It was clear that in the end, something would have to be sacrificed. There was no way people would get out of the whole war without a few bruises. Shepard died, but civilization lived in. How is that not a bitersweet ending?

But, after so many years, having the end being a 3 minute sequence IS an issue. I wanted to see what happened to Wrex... I wanted to see how the Quarians are building their homes (with or without the geth depending on which ending you choose). I wanted to see Jack teaching at the Academy.... The lack of such sequences is what upsets me, not the choices that were given in the actual ending. And yes, I do believe that objectively, this is the actual problem with the ending, it;s not what most people complain about.

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MordiMoro wrote...

In Italy we think that the game was released incomplete, unfinished.
The many end announced on twitter are not there, has been used only a part of the "finished" and placing the variation of color.


I think the Italian's may have it right, we got an unfinished copy... Or we're are all in a nightmare. D:

#15195
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Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

Nyila wrote...

thePredator50 wrote...

As I said - people want a happy ending, that's not going to happen. I sincerely hope Bioware doesn't cave in to ridiculous happy end demands. Just elaborate more on the aftermath to the existing endings.


There was blatant fanservice in certain areas, but Bioware didn't cave in and didn't give Thane a cure, instead they gave him a worthy death. They did the same for Shepard, except, Shepard wasn't dying from any disease. Curing Thane would have been unrealistic, but giving Shepard different options would have made sense.

My opinion anyway..


Our opinion. Not only you and I, but the most part of the comunity.


Your signature says it all!

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I have to love your words, Prince. =]

Thanks for the kind words! :)

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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

We thought that here also Mordimoro. pretty sad huh??


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Katsumi Liqueur

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I crushed all my hopes, really. But I want BW to say something, anyhing, about our distress. =/

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Katsumi Liqueur wrote...

I crushed all my hopes, really. But I want BW to say something, anyhing, about our distress. =/


Politely: Agreed. They'll show up eventually, with their overlords watching from above..

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I don't really have a problem with playing the game.. The game itself is actually great. I just... reject the endings, and substitute my own. And.. Also reject any further EA or Bioware games. Like the endings... they simply no longer exist to me.