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[Levvi]

Foulpancake wrote...

ascended1 wrote...

I'm not sure how I would feel about pay DLC to fix the endings. I despise the endings, but I would be mad as hell if they charge for the endings, meaning they left them out just to charge you for them later. Profiteering at its finest. The only solution I see that would appease me is free DLC with the endings.

I love(d) the Mass Effect series all the way up until the ending of ME3, but to (theoretically) charge for endings that should have been included wouldn't sit right with me. What's next? Leaving out the beginning of the game so they can charge for it? But, that's a rant for another day that may, or may not come.

Feh, i have up until 2 days ago supported Bioware more than any company ever. I buy all their collectors editions, jumped on ToR early release, i've been a loyal follower and fan since the original Baldurs Gate. I've loved everything they have ever done and always asked for more.

So yes, i personally would be willing to pay the price of the whole collectors edition OVER AGAIN, just to give me an alternate ending where my Shep can live happily ever after with Liara. Why? Because i would hate for my love of this company to turn to ashes because of 5 minutes of atrocious cinematics. If they listen to their customers and give us what we so desperately want, i would be happy to continue to support them as i always have in the past.

Ah, this is exactly how I feel. My long love affair with BioWare is coming to an end, but I really don't want it to be.

[Xellith]

Mr_Glasses wrote...

Meanwhile at Bioware office

Meanwhile at the EA office www.youtube.com/watch

[Nyila]

Kloborgg711 wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Twikz wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Si-Shen wrote...

Why put all the work into my playthrough if I will just die anyway?

Yeah that's how I feel too.

The game is intense, no way around that, the atmosphere is dark and heavy, you can feel Shepard's exhaustion, and I knew the whole game that Shepard had high chances of dying. I just hoped there would also be a way out. After all, the entire game is about instilling hope in others, but Shepard has none? Why?! The goodbyes were heartbreaking, and they felt even more heartbreaking after I realized Shepard wasn't getting out of there alive. For a minute, when Anderson died, I hoped to see my squad show up or something.. And I don't just feel disappointed, I feel outright depressed!

Honestly I would have had no issue with Shepard dying as long as there was some actual closure involved.  However I gathered that Shepards survival was implied with the destroy ending regardless of EMS, you just get video confirmation with 4-5k+.  I guess there really isn't much of an explaination as to how Shepard doesn't end up dehydrating or bleeding out, but even as depressing as the endings are Bioware wouldn't write in his survival only to have him suffer such a pitiful death. 
I fail to see how Shepard could delude himself into thinking he could control the reapers (this seems more like a renegade choice to me), or how he could force the merging of all synthetics and organics in the galaxy.  Thus in my mind the only logical choice is the destroy ending, which shepard survives.  If all that is bothering you about the game is Shepards death just get your EMS up before you beat it again, but I think there are more troubling issues with the ending.  I'm actually surprised that the last couple minutes of a game I enjoyed so immensely could have such a negative effect on the entire experience.

Hey that Renegade/Paragon crap has been bothering me too, because, Anderson's the good-hearted guy and the Illusive Man is the jerk, so why is Anderson in the red zone and TIM in the blue zone? Another WTF moment for me.. Anyway..

I know, that confused the hell out of me. Aside from the fact that the three paths are NOT clearly marked (you get an awkward camera angle of each during the explanation), I couldn't believe that controlling would be the paragon one. You mean, doing what the Illusive Man, the most evil insane son of a **** in the game wants to do is the "good guy" option? But then, none of them are paragon or renegade. Taking ultimate power and judgement into your hands does not seem like a good thing to do. Utterly destroying all hope for any synthetic life in the galaxy, after all you accomplish in the game, also doesn't seem like a good thing to do. Forcing everyone you ever knew to turn into "optimal" hybrids beyond their own will also seems pretty despicable, and it seem eerily and uncomfortably similar to the Reaper goal. That's the thing. Three endings is bad enough from the perspective of quantity, it's even worse when all of the endings are unsatisfying and bad. Not to mention all of them involve destroying the relays, which doesn't just doom civilization, but dooms all the Quarians and Turians and likely Krogans (assuming they're all male) fighting in the Sol battle. It's just a bitter conclusion, I can't even feel an ounce of "victory" in it.

I agree. And I thought the same thing about the relays. But isn't it mentionned somewhere that you can still travel without the relays, it just takes longer? Or maybe I dreamed it.. And are all the ships disabled? Are they all crash landing or is it only the Normandy?

Anyway, the stargazer guy tells the kid there's other worlds with other forms of life out there, but wouldn't all the races stuck together on Earth live there, all together? Or maybe they'll start slaughtering each other or something.. Can't exactly trust a Krogan neighbor..

Questions, questions.. Sure doesn't feel like a conclusion to me..

[worldwide]

Heldenbrand wrote...


And in my opinion, the death of the boy was not nearly as emotionally harsh as the final moments with Mordin. That was absolutely soul crushing.

I agree pretty much everybody elses death was soul crushing in a good way not like the endings
one of the most soul crushing for me was in the asari temple after convincing the asari commandos to fight on but then u get nothing to show for it that for me was truly soul crushing but all the others were soul crushing as well

[suprhomre]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

I would pay for Happy Ending DLC. No joke.

LOL....................

[TheMadBlimper]

I find it stunning that a game can achieve excellence its gameplay and through 99% of its story, then have an ending so bad that it takes away from that excellence, and leaves it in mediocrity. How did Bioware drop the ball so hard on this one?

[Nyila]

Levvi wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Schirach wrote...

slipliker wrote...

Btw, a little offtop here.
Is it just me or this kid appearing in the game multiple times is really annoying and makes you want to punch him in his face? o_o

I firmly believe Shepard felt guilty about not saving that child, and whatever manifested itself on the crucible used the image of what Shepard felt most guilt for to present itself.

I agree.

I would have preferred it if it manifested in the form of someone I actually knew that died, say Ashley, Mordin, Thane, or Legion. But maybe that's just me xD

Agreed.

[nilcox]

Europe here.

I already posted in the thread but I will post again.

The ending left me feeling like a took a sack of bricks to the chest, not because shepard dying but because I did not get any closure. All I wanted from the ending was to see the effects of this long journey, more precisely how it affected my crew, did Tali finaly get her house on her homeworld? Could ash settle down on earth with her sister?

Im probably in the minority with this but I would have liked a disney ending to this long journey, I wanted nothing more then for my shepard to settle down on earth with ash and start a new life. But I would be fine with ANY ending as long as I got to see how the crew coped with it all. Just having a cutscene from shepards funeral with all of the crew attending would be good for me, end the series in a way that makes it all feel like it was worth it, show us earth being rebuilt, show us the geth and quarian living together.

As someone else in this thread put it : Give us an ending worth fighting for.

[Harbinger of Hope]

Here, BioWare, in-case you aren't getting the message, let me sum up the overwhelming majority of players feelings into three words:

You.

Dun.

Goofed.

[Nyila]

nilcox wrote...

As someone else in this thread put it : Give us an ending worth fighting for.

Yeah, someone oughta make a nice signature banner with that in it.

[Xellith]

They forced the ending upon us. They never gave us any option to build our story over 3 games to culimate in an ending that we built for ourselves. The ending was forced upon us. We were raped.

[Bledz]

yeah, the boy doesn't make sense to me. It should have been someone else, just a blank VI or something. Or hey, maybe nothing because it shouldn't be in the end.

It should just be reapers who win or lose depending on how you played the game and decision at the end that decides how you win or lose. One renegade win and lose option, one paragon win and lose option.

[worldwide]

nilcox wrote...

Europe here.

I already posted in the thread but I will post again.

The ending left me feeling like a took a sack of bricks to the chest, not because shepard dying but because I did not get any closure. All I wanted from the ending was to see the effects of this long journey, more precisely how it affected my crew, did Tali finaly get her house on her homeworld? Could ash settle down on earth with her sister?

Im probably in the minority with this but I would have liked a disney ending to this long journey, I wanted nothing more then for my shepard to settle down on earth with ash and start a new life. But I would be fine with ANY ending as long as I got to see how the crew coped with it all. Just having a cutscene from shepards funeral with all of the crew attending would be good for me, end the series in a way that makes it all feel like it was worth it, show us earth being rebuilt, show us the geth and quarian living together.

As someone else in this thread put it : Give us an ending worth fighting for.

lol if I remember correctly in Mulan they sang a song somewhere along the lines of something worth fighting for maybe should just spam it until they get the hint lol

[LPPrince]

Ironic.

The game was absolutely incredible. Loved it.

Except for the beginning and end- Not being able to carry over my character's appearance, and the endings all being terribad.

[Maera Imrov]

Nyila wrote...

nilcox wrote...

As someone else in this thread put it : Give us an ending worth fighting for.

Yeah, someone oughta make a nice signature banner with that in it.

Seconded. For now, I will simply put it in pretty magenta letters.

[DrDetective]

I don't care if the only endings we're given are the bleakest, least hopeful pieces of fiction to ever grace the planet. Destroy Earth, kill entire species, I don't mind. Just don't make it a total non sequitur when when you do it. There were so many ways to end this game, and they went with literally the worst possible one....three; whatever.

[Nyila]

Xellith wrote...

They forced the ending upon us. They never gave us any option to build our story over 3 games to culimate in an ending that we built for ourselves. The ending was forced upon us. We were raped.

And you know what's the worst? All the way up to the damn catalyst, I loved the game, and I trully thought it was a worthy final chapter, it took a measly 3 minutes to change my mind about that..

Modifié par Nyila, 10 mars 2012 - 02:58 .

[Tony208]

The ending should be a culmination of everything you did from the first game to the third.

Not hey this is the end now go choose red, blue, or green
nothing else you did before matters

[TygerHeart]

The issue with the ending is that all the fighting for the future, and it still looks so damn bleak. No sense of hope for the future really. Just a giant mess left behind. We fought that hard to turn the entire galaxy into a slum. No little blue babies, no dancing in the streets. Just the Reapers leave, relays blow up. Crew stranded on a world that at best, only kills 2 of the crew.

[tangalin]

Paparob wrote...

This is the greatest gamer ****storm I've ever seen. Truly.

Blizzard RealID fiasco.

[Kloborgg711]

Nyila wrote...
 But isn't it mentionned somewhere that you can still travel without the relays, it just takes longer? Or maybe I dreamed it.. And are all the ships disabled? Are they all crash landing or is it only the Normandy?

Anyway, the stargazer guy tells the kid there's other worlds with other forms of life out there, but wouldn't all the races stuck together on Earth live there, all together? Or maybe they'll start slaughtering each other or something.. Can't exactly trust a Krogan neighbor..

Questions, questions.. Sure doesn't feel like a conclusion to me..

Assuming ships can still travel in FTL without the relays, it could still take months or years to make the travel. The galaxy is a huge place, even with lightspeed travel. And fuel is another issue. Not to mention, we're not sure these ships are capable of cartography across empty space. And do they have enough supplies for any serious voyage? Way too many variables to get a happy ending. Even if the races do get back to their own planets, they'll likely never communicate amongst themselves again, and we certainly won't see anything resembling citadel space. That depresses me.

I'm not sure at all if all ships are disabled. It's extremely vague in regards to what is actually affected by the destroy option. This is the only option where Shepard can "live", but the god kid makes a point to tell Shepard he is largely synthetic. Strange. It would incredible depressing to see Shepard cause the disabling of every ship in the fleet, and by extension the death of millions more, including his own fellow servicemen and Admiral Hackett. But even if that doesn't "happen", we should KNOW. It shouldn't be this vague!

As for all the races living together... I don't know. Even assuming there was space for all of them, what does it really matter? The Turians and Quarians, as I mentioned, would almost certainly die due to starvation. The Quarians would never see the planet they finally won back. The Krogan, while they might live, probably didn't bring any women. Even if Wrex stays and survives, how much can he really do to calm them down after all that's happened?


As I said before, the problem is that we're forced to guess what happens, and almost all realistic estimates are even more depressing than the horrible ending we're told.

[TaylorC183]

this bioware employee is saying that a comment will be coming from bioware, they are just waiting for more people to get to the endings before they release a statement. Reading her tweets to people kind of gave me hope.

what do yall think??

https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan

[Garathe]

I would just like another ending. A lot of people put so much time into playing this, we just want the ending that gives us the closure from all that time spent. We don't have to remove the current endings, but give us more diverse options like the choices we make throughout this series. We have a series of endings that Shepard dies, but we should have had a few where he could live. Like others here, I spent many hours and play throughs looking forward to this game, but the endings we got leave me just feeling empty and disappointed.

I always loved Bioware and supported them for a long time. I'm finding it hard to want to ever do that anymore after this.

[Kyria Nyriese]

According to what I have read and seen, at least with the Destroy ending, all tech based off the Mass Relays quits working. Since I believe almost all tech is based off the Mass Relays right now, that would set things back at least a couple hundred years.

This is from I have read, as I have not been able to make myself actually finish the game because of the endings. So I may be wrong about it.

[Never]

Nyila wrote...

Levvi wrote...

Nyila wrote...

Schirach wrote...

slipliker wrote...

Btw, a little offtop here.
Is it just me or this kid appearing in the game multiple times is really annoying and makes you want to punch him in his face? o_o

I firmly believe Shepard felt guilty about not saving that child, and whatever manifested itself on the crucible used the image of what Shepard felt most guilt for to present itself.

I agree.

I would have preferred it if it manifested in the form of someone I actually knew that died, say Ashley, Mordin, Thane, or Legion. But maybe that's just me xD

Agreed.

I like the use of the child's image as the catalyst, though I was straining to recognize the other voices that were echoing along with the child's voice. I swear it sounded like Shep's voice, but I'd have to listen to it again.