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TheGoddess0fWar

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Here guys, I summed up the end of the game in 8 seconds!

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#15477
Aztlanna

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I've been trying to figure out the sense in this. And I think what bothers me most is that I feel cheated and deceived. I was led to believe my choices mattered. That I would see variance according to what I did in all three games. But in the end, nothing mattered. I got the same options, essentially, just different color codes. I feel like this was a bait and switch. The endings were stupid and illogical. Plot holes abounded. I've articulated them fully elsewhere.

I used to be a huge Bioware fan, but this is the end of the road for me. It seems they are moving away from writing taut, compelling stories and toward a genre where style matters more than substance. I can't follow. I have no desire to.

And that makes me sad. I feel as though I've come to the end of an era. I must bid adieu to the talented company that made all the games I love. Because endings matter. The rest of the game was fantastic; I am surprised it's possible, but they managed to ruin an entire franchise for me in fifteen minutes. I won't play any of the games again, knowing it doesn't matter what you do.

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This was.. the best.. game EVER. All Mass Effect games. I really mean it.

But those last ten minutes atop the citadel... sigh......

This:

Landline wrote...

My future relationship with the company depends on their reaction.

They release a free good ending DLC, and I'll be willing to put this entire unpleasaness behind us.

The release it as a paid DLC, and I'll be willing to do buisness, but no more pre-ordering, no more Collectors Editions and I wait until I hear if it's good or not before I buy anything.

They don't release anything that fixes the ending, and they are no longer welcome in my wallet.



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Landline wrote...

My future relationship with the company depends on their reaction.

They release a free good ending DLC, and I'll be willing to put this entire unpleasaness behind us.

The release it as a paid DLC, and I'll be willing to do buisness, but no more pre-ordering, no more Collectors Editions and I wait until I hear if it's good or not before I buy anything.

They don't release anything that fixes the ending, and they are no longer welcome in my wallet.


Agreed.

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humes spork wrote...

Lexagg wrote...

It was incredible moment. One of the deepest moments in my gaming experience. Even thinking about it in context of the ending makes me furious.

Oh, yeah. I've never gotten choked up over a video game so badly before that I actually had to hit the dashboard button and go have a cigarette to compose myself before I could keep playing. Everything up to that stupid kid-AI was as close to gaming perfection as I've ever experienced, and I've been video gaming since the Atari 2600 days when I was barely big enough to hold a controller. And then there was a massive gooey turd in the punchbowl.


I don't smoke but I certainly was experiencing something similiar. Only got like four hours of sleep in the two days I was playing it. I felt so certain that I was being trolled about the ending. I mean, how can something this frakkin' good be messed up by an ending? Ahhhh, I had to find out the hard way.

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FsDxRAGE_v2

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TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Here guys, I summed up the end of the game in 8 seconds!

Heh. This is viably accurate.

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it just feels as if bioware pulled a Ron D Moore on us like he did on battlestar galactica he basically just said ok let's resolve all endings possible plots and all loose strings in one fell swoop i had the game beat in maybe 20 hours it's it just does not feel right and i destroyed every thing so i guess i am a shepard jesus

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KoRnAh wrote...

This was.. the best.. game EVER. All Mass Effect games. I really mean it.

But those last ten minutes atop the citadel... sigh......

This:

Landline wrote...

My future relationship with the company depends on their reaction.

They release a free good ending DLC, and I'll be willing to put this entire unpleasaness behind us.

The release it as a paid DLC, and I'll be willing to do buisness, but no more pre-ordering, no more Collectors Editions and I wait until I hear if it's good or not before I buy anything.

They don't release anything that fixes the ending, and they are no longer welcome in my wallet.

agreed even by like the end of the mission on palovan(?) moon I was already planning my second playthrough. Now however I just can't bring myself to continue, which is a shame seeing as how I really had an immense amount of fun right up until the catalyst and the crappy no proper conclusion ruined one of the best games.

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I'm going to keep this short, but after being disgruntled with the endings, I won't let it ruin my overall experience. I loved every moment of mass effect from the first game till the ending in 3. The problem with the ending isn't the fact it's sad, but it makes no sense. All our crucial decisions didn't impact the ending. We are forced to make decisions that don't reflect anything we did or believe in. Merging synthetic and organic life. Why?

Destroying the reapers with the relays destroyed. So every races fleet is stuck in Sol with FTL drives. So unless earth has a lot of room and food that won't kill Turians and Quarians, then they will die from starvation. The other races are stuck in sol, and that many aliens could strain earth's resources, and they wont see home again. That's stupid!

Finally you control the reapers....the husks that claim lives and how Shepard was going to stop it decides to become a reaper. What???

Did Mac Waters or anybody there thought this out? If they make a new mass effect game as they alluded, where can they go? They might as well called mass effect 4: stuck on earth. The game revolves around telling stories with your grand kids.

Also the fact Joker left battle and was stuck in the relay is a mystery. Nothing was mention on why he left. At least the music during the ending was amazing, and at least the green ending shows joker and Ed-e happy together.

Modifié par pattywagon, 10 mars 2012 - 04:34 .


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LPPrince

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It felt good, playing this game. I loved it.

Then the ending came. UGH.

I'll still play the game over and over, but I REALLY need them to release a "New endings" DLC that includes a happy ending for all if I'm going to say good things about ME3.

I've so far told three people(two stepbrothers and a friend) about the endings and all think they're completely ridiculous and stupid.

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FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

TheGoddess0fWar wrote...

Here guys, I summed up the end of the game in 8 seconds!

Heh. This is viably accurate.


Yeah...sad but true<_<.

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Golferguy758

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Almostfaceman wrote...

humes spork wrote...

Lexagg wrote...

It was incredible moment. One of the deepest moments in my gaming experience. Even thinking about it in context of the ending makes me furious.

Oh, yeah. I've never gotten choked up over a video game so badly before that I actually had to hit the dashboard button and go have a cigarette to compose myself before I could keep playing. Everything up to that stupid kid-AI was as close to gaming perfection as I've ever experienced, and I've been video gaming since the Atari 2600 days when I was barely big enough to hold a controller. And then there was a massive gooey turd in the punchbowl.


I don't smoke but I certainly was experiencing something similiar. Only got like four hours of sleep in the two days I was playing it. I felt so certain that I was being trolled about the ending. I mean, how can something this frakkin' good be messed up by an ending? Ahhhh, I had to find out the hard way.


Your avatar is very similar to how my face actually was when I was fighting the banshee and brute horde on the missle stage. And then again at THAT part.

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FsDxRAGE_v2

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Almostfaceman wrote...



I don't smoke but I certainly was experiencing something similiar. Only got like four hours of sleep in the two days I was playing it. I felt so certain that I was being trolled about the ending. I mean, how can something this frakkin' good be messed up by an ending? Ahhhh, I had to find out the hard way.

I feel you. I had trouble going to sleep after beating it. I have never felt this betrayed. BioWare craddled us, they gave us happiness then just stabbed us in the back.
Frakking backstabbers.

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I think part of the problem is that Bioware had their vision of how they wanted the series to end (combined with the fact that at least one version of the ending was scrapped), while the fanbase had another general vision. Bioware wanted something dark and open-ended while the fanbase wanted Shepherds story arc to be concluded with some sort of epilogue on how things turned out. I think the ending could have satisfied both sides had it not been as poorly executed as it was.That's not to say that I am happy with what Bioware did. I think it was a terrible decision. I hope Bioware decides that the best move right now is to offer some sort of new ending or epilogue because right now I think that doing nothing will only hurt them in the long run.

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I personally spread the word around my local Game Shop (They sell table top games not Video games) about the endings and everyone I told called me a liar. "BioWare wouldn't do that. Quit trying to troll us", I wish I was.

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LPPrince wrote...

It felt good, playing this game. I loved it.

Then the ending came. UGH.

I'll still play the game over and over, but I REALLY need them to release a "New endings" DLC that includes a happy ending for all if I'm going to say good things about ME3.

I've so far told three people(two stepbrothers and a friend) about the endings and all think they're completely ridiculous and stupid.


My sister (who doesn't play Mass Effect) and her boyfriend (who did play ME2 and was considering borrowing ME3 from me) watched with me as I reached the end of the game (chose destroy), then reload and try another path (control), only to get basically the same thing. And they both agree that it was both stupid and pointless, with no real closure whatsoever.

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LPPrince wrote...

It felt good, playing this game. I loved it.

Then the ending came. UGH.

I'll still play the game over and over, but I REALLY need them to release a "New endings" DLC that includes a happy ending for all if I'm going to say good things about ME3.

I've so far told three people(two stepbrothers and a friend) about the endings and all think they're completely ridiculous and stupid.


same

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I don't know, it's all very suspect. If you choose to destroy the reapers, and you had enough war assets, and you get to see Shep taking a breath... are you telling me he/she survived falling back to Earth in the state he/she was in? There is no way. How could Shepard have even been on the Citadel if it was destroyed? I want to believe Shepard was dreaming from the moment he/she reached the beam, and maybe started talking to that kid. I want to believe it was actually a battle to prove Shep wasn't indoctrinated.

In any case, I call shenanigans. The only thing that keeps me sane is the hope that they did this because the story was leaked, and once it's been in Europe for a few days they will released the actually ending, for free. Big dreams, but it helps me sleep at night.

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KoRnAh wrote...

This was.. the best.. game EVER. All Mass Effect games. I really mean it.

But those last ten minutes atop the citadel... sigh......

 

LPPrince wrote...

It felt good, playing this game. I loved it.

Then the ending came. UGH.


This is really what hurts the most. The rest of the game is really, really good. So much so that the endings drag it down, which is a situation you should never want to be in.

I'm not even looking for a Disney ending that some people are (Though it certainly could have, and probably should have, been one of a variety of options), all I want is an actual ending. Clarification on the fate of Shepard and the crew. The story isn't all about the Reapers, it's a character story as well. Bioware failed to deliver on that end.

I can accept being railroaded into the ending. It's not what I want, but at the end of the day I'll accept it. What I cannot except is a lack of variety and a lack of clarity.

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tausra wrote...

I personally spread the word around my local Game Shop (They sell table top games not Video games) about the endings and everyone I told called me a liar. "BioWare wouldn't do that. Quit trying to troll us", I wish I was.


Now you know what Shepard felt like.

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tausra wrote...

I personally spread the word around my local Game Shop (They sell table top games not Video games) about the endings and everyone I told called me a liar. "BioWare wouldn't do that. Quit trying to troll us", I wish I was.


I want to do this now - well, go to EBgames, I mean. I actually told one of the salespeople that I was jealous he'd gotten to play the demo when it was first available. I wonder what the people who work in this store think of the game, or will think of it if they haven't finished it yet.

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I think we can all agree that Bioware shouldn't be slaves to every gamers demands. They don't want to create the cliche ending of Shepard just narrowly avoiding the giant explosion where he blows up the Mayor of the Reapers thus saving the galaxy and lives happily ever after with his love interest on Earth? Fine, we can live with that. But come on, they need to meet us halfway. I don't want to speak for others in this regard, but these endings are the most unfulfilling ones of any game I have ever played. I'm not sure what else can be said that hasn't already in 600+ pages, so just place me in the "great game, bummer ending" camp.

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Landline wrote...

tausra wrote...

I personally spread the word around my local Game Shop (They sell table top games not Video games) about the endings and everyone I told called me a liar. "BioWare wouldn't do that. Quit trying to troll us", I wish I was.


Now you know what Shepard felt like.


The true plan all along. To make the player feel like a real life Shepard

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Aztlanna

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tausra wrote...

I personally spread the word around my local Game Shop (They sell table top games not Video games) about the endings and everyone I told called me a liar. "BioWare wouldn't do that. Quit trying to troll us", I wish I was.


I blogged about the endings, and the people who follow me on Twitter thought I was exaggerating -- that it couldn't possibly be that bad. And then there was the usual scorn from people who loathe Disney endings. But look, an ending doesn't have to be Disney to be logical, compelling, and most of all, make sense with existing canon. What they did was a 180 from the ongoing storyline -- and the lack of cogent design in the finale was absolutely astounding.

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should of ended where anderson dies and if your military strength isent high enough then sheperd dies there to and they have a funral for you and if you ems is high enough you live and build a house on rannoch or whatever.